Re: Negative score, yet marked as spam.
On tir 23 nov 2010 08:42:16 CET, Ger Apeldoorn wrote disable rbl tests in mailscanner Wouldn't that pass through much more spam? not if same rbl is used in spamassassin Is this a known bug? define bug ? Do you perhaps have a link to more information? nope, if you use a rbl in mailscanner that is not used in spamassassin then it could be added to spamassassin, but most of the time it does not help Google didn't turn up anything relevant. might be that you did not show a sample that spamassassin find as ham where you liked to get it detected as spam Thank you very much, no problem PS: I'm mailing this from another address to prevent the mail-banner to be appended. Sorry if this breaks the thread. it does not break anything here as long you just reply to maillist -- xpoint http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html
Re: Negative score, yet marked as spam.
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 08:42:16 +0100 Ger Apeldoorn i...@gerapeldoorn.nl wrote: disable rbl tests in mailscanner Wouldn't that pass through much more spam? Is this a known bug? It appears from the log message that mailscanner is checking SORBS independently of Spamassassin. This doesn't appear to be a Spamassassin problem. Spamassassin simply classifies mail - it doesn't do anything with it. I think you should review your mailscanner configuration - simply disabling all blocklists might cause you a big rise in spam if mailscanner is currently handling spamhaus checks. I don't know much about mailscanner, but it seems odd that it's running Spamassassin on a message that's going to be rejected by a blocklist. Possibly mailscanner has it's own internal scoring system, which is being misused. Normally you reject on very reliable blocklists and pass-on the rest to SA which can score-in the other, less-reliable, lists.
Re: Negative score, yet marked as spam.
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 2:09 PM, RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 08:42:16 +0100 Ger Apeldoorn i...@gerapeldoorn.nl wrote: disable rbl tests in mailscanner Wouldn't that pass through much more spam? Is this a known bug? It appears from the log message that mailscanner is checking SORBS independently of Spamassassin. This doesn't appear to be a Spamassassin problem. Spamassassin simply classifies mail - it doesn't do anything with it. I think you should review your mailscanner configuration - simply disabling all blocklists might cause you a big rise in spam if mailscanner is currently handling spamhaus checks. I don't know much about mailscanner, but it seems odd that it's running Spamassassin on a message that's going to be rejected by a blocklist. Possibly mailscanner has it's own internal scoring system, which is being misused. Normally you reject on very reliable blocklists and pass-on the rest to SA which can score-in the other, less-reliable, lists. You are absolutely right! I have disabled this blocklist in the Mailscanner config. (I was under the impression that Mailscanner left all checking to Spamassassin... :( ) Anyway, thank you very much! Regards, Ger.
Re: Negative score, yet marked as spam.
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Ger Apeldoorn wrote: disable rbl tests in mailscanner Wouldn't that pass through much more spam? Is this a known bug? Do you perhaps have a link to more information? Google didn't turn up anything relevant. I suggest you ask about this on the Mailscanner list. SA is returning a negative score (primarily due to Bayes) and Mailscanner is adjusting that score - apparently incorrectly - due to a RBL it is using in addition to the ones SA is checking. If the glue is ignoring the score SA provides, a misclassification is not SA's fault. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhar...@impsec.org key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79 --- Homeland Security: Specializing in Tactical Band-aids for Strategic Problems. -- Eric K. in Bruce Schneier's blog --- 24 days until TRON Legacy
Re: Negative score, yet marked as spam.
Le 23/11/2010 15:36, Ger Apeldoorn a écrit : You are absolutely right! I have disabled this blocklist in the Mailscanner config. (I was under the impression that Mailscanner left all checking to Spamassassin...:( ) While MailScanner *can* check RBLs itself, doing so is only recommended in cases where SpamAssassin is *not* used. And even then it is best to either let your MTA do the check, if you're sure that the RBL is reliable enough, or to set MailScanner so that at least two RBLs must concur before a message is considered as spam. If any more details are needed we should take this discussion to the MailScanner list. John. -- -- Over 4000 webcams from ski resorts around the world - www.snoweye.com -- Translate your technical documents and web pages- www.tradoc.fr
Re: Negative score, yet marked as spam.
On man 22 nov 2010 14:05:46 CET, Ger Apeldoorn wrote Is this a known bug and if so, is there a workaround available? disable rbl tests in mailscanner -- xpoint http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html
Re: Negative score, yet marked as spam.
disable rbl tests in mailscanner Wouldn't that pass through much more spam? Is this a known bug? Do you perhaps have a link to more information? Google didn't turn up anything relevant. Thank you very much, Ger. PS: I'm mailing this from another address to prevent the mail-banner to be appended. Sorry if this breaks the thread.
