Re: New stock spam (2/14/07)

2007-02-15 Thread Chris Lear

* Jonathan Nichols wrote (15/02/07 05:19):

Maciej Friedel wrote:

On 02/14/07 Jonathan wrote:


http://www.pbp.net/~jnichols/spam2.txt

0.0 BOTNET_NORDNS IP address has no PTR record
0.1 HTML_50_60 BODY: Message is 50% to 60% HTML  
0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message
1.0 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 40 to 60% 
[score: 0.5002]

5.0 BOTNET The submitting mail server looks like part of a Botnet

i think botnet is a good idea

maciek



I thought botnet was unstable.. is it working ok now?


It's not (in my experience) unstable. It's excellent. But the default 
score of 5 is way too high. It gets a lot of false positives, especially 
(again, in my experience) from small mail-order operations who don't 
understand dns (Exchange users, I rather uncharitably assume). I score 
botnet at 2 and I'm very happy with it.
I reckon better network tests are the future of spam filtering, now that 
spammers are sending blocks of text from Harry Potter books along with 
undetectable URLs containing spaces etc.


Chris


Re: New stock spam (2/14/07)

2007-02-15 Thread LuKreme

On 14-Feb-2007, at 16:43, Jonathan Nichols wrote:

http://www.pbp.net/~jnichols/spam2.txt


X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=12.2 required=5.0 tests=BOTNET,BOTNET_NORDNS,
HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET,RCVD_IN_XBL,
SARE_LWSHORTT,SARE_PROLOSTOCK_SYM3 autolearn=spam version=3.1.7

0.0 BOTNET_NORDNS  IP address has no PTR record
0.8 SARE_LWSHORTT  BODY: SARE_LWSHORTT
1.7 SARE_PROLOSTOCK_SYM3   BODY: Last week's hot stock scam
0.0 HTML_MESSAGE   BODY: HTML included in message
0.3 HTML_FONT_BIG  BODY: HTML tag for a big font size
1.3 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Received via a relay in bl.spamcop.net
[Blocked - see http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml? 
211.48.218.5]

3.1 RCVD_IN_XBLRBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus XBL
[211.48.218.5 listed in zen.spamhaus.org]
5.0 BOTNET The submitting mail server looks like part  
of a Botnet



BOTNET and Zen for the win!

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were young prices where reasonable, politicians were noble, and  
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Re: New stock spam (2/14/07)

2007-02-14 Thread Kelson

Jonathan Nichols wrote:
Any rulesets to deal with them? They're scoring lower and lower all the 
time. The one I linked to scored -2 :-(


It looks like it tripped BAYES_00.  Have you been running these through 
sa-learn as spam?  That should help, to start.


--
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SpeedGate Communications www.speed.net


Re: New stock spam (2/14/07)

2007-02-14 Thread Maciej Friedel
On 02/14/07 Jonathan wrote:

 http://www.pbp.net/~jnichols/spam2.txt

0.0 BOTNET_NORDNS IP address has no PTR record
0.1 HTML_50_60 BODY: Message is 50% to 60% HTML  
0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message
1.0 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 40 to 60% 
[score: 0.5002]
5.0 BOTNET The submitting mail server looks like part of a Botnet

i think botnet is a good idea

maciek

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RE: New stock spam (2/14/07)

2007-02-14 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
From: Maciej Friedel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 On 02/14/07 Jonathan wrote:
 
  http://www.pbp.net/~jnichols/spam2.txt
 
 0.0 BOTNET_NORDNS IP address has no PTR record
 0.1 HTML_50_60 BODY: Message is 50% to 60% HTML  
 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message
 1.0 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 40 to 60% 
 [score: 0.5002]
 5.0 BOTNET The submitting mail server looks like part of a Botnet
 
 i think botnet is a good idea

 1.5 FH_RELAY_NODNS We could not determine your Reverse DNS
 0.8 SARE_LWSHORTT  BODY: SARE_LWSHORTT
 1.7 SARE_PROLOSTOCK_SYM3   BODY: Last week's hot stock scam
 2.0 BAYES_80   BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 80 to 95%
[score: 0.8750]
 0.1 HTML_50_60 BODY: Message is 50% to 60% HTML
 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE   BODY: HTML included in message
 1.6 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Received via a relay in bl.spamcop.net
[Blocked - see http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?211.48.218.5]
 3.9 RCVD_IN_XBLRBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus XBL
[211.48.218.5 listed in zen.spamhaus.org]

I think SARE and some network tests are even better (scores 11.5 with my 
surprising Bayes :)

Giampaolo

 
 maciek
 
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RE: New stock spam (2/14/07)

2007-02-14 Thread Quinn Comendant
On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 01:18:46 +0100, Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote:
 I think SARE and some network tests are even better (scores 11.5 with 
 my surprising Bayes :)

I agree, mine scored it in a similar way:

Content analysis details:   (11.5 points, 4.9 required)

 pts rule name  description
 -- --
 0.0 DK_POLICY_SIGNSOME Domain Keys: policy says domain signs some mails
 0.8 SARE_LWSHORTT  BODY: SARE_LWSHORTT
 1.7 SARE_PROLOSTOCK_SYM3   BODY: Last week's hot stock scam
 0.1 HTML_50_60 BODY: Message is 50% to 60% HTML
 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE   BODY: HTML included in message
 3.5 BAYES_99   BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 99 to 100%
[score: 1.]
 1.6 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Received via a relay in bl.spamcop.net
[Blocked - see http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?211.48.218.5]
 3.9 RCVD_IN_XBLRBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus XBL
[211.48.218.5 listed in zen.spamhaus.org]

Quinn

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RE: New stock spam (2/14/07)

2007-02-14 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
From: Quinn Comendant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 01:18:46 +0100, Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote:
  I think SARE and some network tests are even better (scores 11.5 with 
  my surprising Bayes :)
 
 I agree, mine scored it in a similar way:
 
 Content analysis details:   (11.5 points, 4.9 required)
 
  pts rule name  description
  -- 
 --
  0.0 DK_POLICY_SIGNSOME Domain Keys: policy says domain signs 
 some mails
  0.8 SARE_LWSHORTT  BODY: SARE_LWSHORTT
  1.7 SARE_PROLOSTOCK_SYM3   BODY: Last week's hot stock scam
  0.1 HTML_50_60 BODY: Message is 50% to 60% HTML
  0.0 HTML_MESSAGE   BODY: HTML included in message
  3.5 BAYES_99   BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 99 to 100%
 [score: 1.]

Nah! You cheat! Bayes did already learn this message, right? :)

Giampaolo


  1.6 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Received via a relay in bl.spamcop.net
 [Blocked - see 
 http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?211.48.218.5]
  3.9 RCVD_IN_XBLRBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus XBL
 [211.48.218.5 listed in zen.spamhaus.org]
 
 Quinn
 
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Re: New stock spam (2/14/07)

2007-02-14 Thread Brian Wilson


On Feb 14, 2007, at 8:48 PM, Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote:


From: Quinn Comendant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 01:18:46 +0100, Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote:
I think SARE and some network tests are even better (scores 11.5  
with

my surprising Bayes :)


I agree, mine scored it in a similar way:

Content analysis details:   (11.5 points, 4.9 required)

 pts rule name  description
 --
--
 0.0 DK_POLICY_SIGNSOME Domain Keys: policy says domain signs
some mails
 0.8 SARE_LWSHORTT  BODY: SARE_LWSHORTT
 1.7 SARE_PROLOSTOCK_SYM3   BODY: Last week's hot stock scam
 0.1 HTML_50_60 BODY: Message is 50% to 60% HTML
 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE   BODY: HTML included in message
 3.5 BAYES_99   BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 99  
to 100%

[score: 1.]


Nah! You cheat! Bayes did already learn this message, right? :)

Giampaolo



Then we both cheated:

(no previous learns on this one that I'm aware of)

score=13.8 required=4.5
*  0.0 DK_POLICY_SIGNSOME Domain Keys: policy says domain  
signs some mails

*  2.0 BOTNET Relay might be a spambot or virusbot
*  [botnet0.7,ip=211.48.218.5,maildomain=amante.ro,nordns]
*  0.8 SARE_LWSHORTT BODY: SARE_LWSHORTT
*  1.7 SARE_PROLOSTOCK_SYM3 BODY: Last week's hot stock scam
*  0.1 HTML_50_60 BODY: Message is 50% to 60% HTML
*  0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message
*  4.2 BAYES_99 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 99 to 100%
*  [score: 1.]
*  2.0 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Received via a relay in  
bl.spamcop.net
*  [Blocked - see http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml? 
211.48.218.5]

*  3.0 RCVD_IN_XBL RBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus XBL
*  [211.48.218.5 listed in zen.spamhaus.org]





RE: New stock spam (2/14/07)

2007-02-14 Thread Quinn Comendant
On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 02:48:44 +0100, Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote:
 Nah! You cheat! Bayes did already learn this message, right? :)

;DDD

Not intentionally... but we use bayes_auto_learn, so maybe it found it already.

Here's an idea for fun: run a who scores the highest competition. Put online 
50-100 recent, common, and not-so-common spam emails, then use a shell script 
to loop through all the messages scoring them and add up the total score. Give 
the script to the list and let the games begin. Winner receives ... a can of 
spam. No cheating! ;P

Quinn

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Re: New stock spam (2/14/07)

2007-02-14 Thread Billy Huddleston
Here is a one I've been getting.. I use a older version of spambot, SARE, 
and  Network tests.. to no avail..


http://www.pastebin.ca/356543

- Original Message - 
From: Brian Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 9:37 PM
Subject: [SPAM] Re: New stock spam (2/14/07)




On Feb 14, 2007, at 8:48 PM, Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote:


From: Quinn Comendant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 01:18:46 +0100, Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote:

I think SARE and some network tests are even better (scores 11.5  with
my surprising Bayes :)


I agree, mine scored it in a similar way:

Content analysis details:   (11.5 points, 4.9 required)

 pts rule name  description
 --
--
 0.0 DK_POLICY_SIGNSOME Domain Keys: policy says domain signs
some mails
 0.8 SARE_LWSHORTT  BODY: SARE_LWSHORTT
 1.7 SARE_PROLOSTOCK_SYM3   BODY: Last week's hot stock scam
 0.1 HTML_50_60 BODY: Message is 50% to 60% HTML
 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE   BODY: HTML included in message
 3.5 BAYES_99   BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 99  to 
100%

[score: 1.]


Nah! You cheat! Bayes did already learn this message, right? :)

Giampaolo



Then we both cheated:

(no previous learns on this one that I'm aware of)

score=13.8 required=4.5
*  0.0 DK_POLICY_SIGNSOME Domain Keys: policy says domain  signs 
some mails

*  2.0 BOTNET Relay might be a spambot or virusbot
*  [botnet0.7,ip=211.48.218.5,maildomain=amante.ro,nordns]
*  0.8 SARE_LWSHORTT BODY: SARE_LWSHORTT
*  1.7 SARE_PROLOSTOCK_SYM3 BODY: Last week's hot stock scam
*  0.1 HTML_50_60 BODY: Message is 50% to 60% HTML
*  0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message
*  4.2 BAYES_99 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 99 to 100%
*  [score: 1.]
*  2.0 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Received via a relay in 
bl.spamcop.net
*  [Blocked - see http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml? 
211.48.218.5]

*  3.0 RCVD_IN_XBL RBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus XBL
*  [211.48.218.5 listed in zen.spamhaus.org]







Re: New stock spam (2/14/07)

2007-02-14 Thread Peter Russell

Scored very highly for me



Content analysis details:   (19.0 points, 5.0 required)

 pts rule name  description
 -- 
--

 5.0 BOTNET Relay might be a spambot or virusbot

[botnet0.7,ip=211.48.218.5,maildomain=amante.ro,nordns]
 0.8 SARE_LWSHORTT  BODY: SARE_LWSHORTT
 1.7 SARE_PROLOSTOCK_SYM3   BODY: Last week's hot stock scam
 0.1 HTML_50_60 BODY: Message is 50% to 60% HTML
 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE   BODY: HTML included in message
 3.5 BAYES_99   BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 99 to 100%
[score: 0.9990]
 4.0 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Received via a relay in bl.spamcop.net
[Blocked - see 
http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?211.48.218.5]

 3.9 RCVD_IN_XBLRBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus XBL
[211.48.218.5 listed in zen.spamhaus.org]




Re: New stock spam (2/14/07)

2007-02-14 Thread Jonathan Nichols

Maciej Friedel wrote:

On 02/14/07 Jonathan wrote:


http://www.pbp.net/~jnichols/spam2.txt


0.0 BOTNET_NORDNS IP address has no PTR record
0.1 HTML_50_60 BODY: Message is 50% to 60% HTML  
0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message
1.0 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 40 to 60% 
[score: 0.5002]

5.0 BOTNET The submitting mail server looks like part of a Botnet

i think botnet is a good idea

maciek



I thought botnet was unstable.. is it working ok now?

And i see others got hits on the Spamcop list. I score that with 5 
points - but sadly, that spam didn't hit spamcop for me.


Yes, I'm feeding all of them through Bayes. But we're still just getting 
hammered with these. :-(


Re: New stock spam (2/14/07)

2007-02-14 Thread Evan Platt

At 03:43 PM 2/14/2007, Jonathan Nichols wrote:

Ugh!

http://www.pbp.net/~jnichols/spam2.txt

I've been getting absolutely hammered with these spams. I had over 
50 in my inbox this morning.


Any rulesets to deal with them? They're scoring lower and lower all 
the time. The one I linked to scored -2 :-(


I too am getting hammered with them. I'm adding some of the common 
phrases to my /etc/postfix/body_checks, but most fall through scoring low.


X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,HTML_50_60,
HTML_MESSAGE,RAZOR2_CHECK,STRONG_BUY autolearn=no version=3.1.7

X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,HTML_50_60,
HTML_MESSAGE,TVD_FUZZY_SYMBOL autolearn=no version=3.1.7


Please tell me I'm missing something obvious.

Yes, I am learning all of them. 



Re: New stock spam (2/14/07)

2007-02-14 Thread Quinn Comendant
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 22:41:45 -0500, Billy Huddleston wrote:
 Here is a one I've been getting.. I use a older version of spambot, 
 SARE, and  Network tests.. to no avail..
 
 http://www.pastebin.ca/356543

I get...

Content analysis details:   (13.4 points, 4.9 required)

 pts rule name  description
 -- --
 0.0 DK_POLICY_SIGNSOME Domain Keys: policy says domain signs some mails
 1.7 SARE_PROLOSTOCK_SYM3   BODY: Last week's hot stock scam
 2.7 STRONG_BUY BODY: Tells you about a strong buy
 0.1 HTML_50_60 BODY: Message is 50% to 60% HTML
 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE   BODY: HTML included in message
 3.5 BAYES_99   BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 99 to 100%
[score: 1.]
 0.5 RAZOR2_CHECK   Listed in Razor2 (http://razor.sf.net/)
 1.5 RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E4_51_100 Razor2 gives engine 4 confidence level
above 50%
[cf:  96]
 0.5 RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100 Razor2 gives confidence level above 50%
[cf:  96]
 2.2 DCC_CHECK  Listed in DCC (http://rhyolite.com/anti-spam/dcc/)
 0.8 DIGEST_MULTIPLEMessage hits more than one network digest check

Quinn

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