Re: When/How to train bayes from user mail?
On 10/15/2013 09:03 PM, Florian Lindner wrote: Am Dienstag, 15. Oktober 2013, 07:19:01 schrieb Andreas Schulze: Zitat von Florian Lindner mailingli...@xgm.de: Since we move our server (and upgrade from oldstabe to stable) I want to reconsider how I organize mails serverside. Debian, MTA is postfix, MDA maildrop (like procmail), IMAP was courier, will be dovecot. if you use dovecot, maildrop is obsolete. deliver your mail via LMTP (or dovecot-lda) to dovecot and let dovecot-sieve do the filtering to subfolders. I object. AFAIK when using dovecot an LDA there is a 1:1 relation of mail adress and mailbox. When using maildrop I can deliver multiple adresses to a single maildir or one adress to multiple maildirs. I would really keep those requirements at the MTA level using aliasing and whatnot. Delivering a message to multiple folders within a single maildir (duplication) can be one using sieve. Additionally sieve can not call external programms. Wrong. http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Pigeonhole/Sieve lists several (albeit experimental) extensions that can run external programs. Setup is not as easy as with procmail (sorry, no maildrop experience here) but it gives the administrator control over what disasters can be triggered when email triggers execution of external tools set up by users. Also consider using amavisd-new + clamav + spamassassin to REJECT mails. (not accept + delete) You may connect amavisd-new as SMTPD_PROXY or using amavisd-milter to your postfix MTA. My biggest open question is how to integrate the SA bayes filter, esp. when and on what folders to do training. I train sa only using the autolearn feature. dovecot has the antispam plugin, which can be used to call sa-learn (or any other tool) for each message that is moved in/out of the spam folder. See http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Plugins/Antispam for details Regards, Tom signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: When/How to train bayes from user mail?
Am Dienstag, 15. Oktober 2013, 07:19:01 schrieb Andreas Schulze: Zitat von Florian Lindner mailingli...@xgm.de: Since we move our server (and upgrade from oldstabe to stable) I want to reconsider how I organize mails serverside. Debian, MTA is postfix, MDA maildrop (like procmail), IMAP was courier, will be dovecot. if you use dovecot, maildrop is obsolete. deliver your mail via LMTP (or dovecot-lda) to dovecot and let dovecot-sieve do the filtering to subfolders. I object. AFAIK when using dovecot an LDA there is a 1:1 relation of mail adress and mailbox. When using maildrop I can deliver multiple adresses to a single maildir or one adress to multiple maildirs. Additionally sieve can not call external programms. Also consider using amavisd-new + clamav + spamassassin to REJECT mails. (not accept + delete) You may connect amavisd-new as SMTPD_PROXY or using amavisd-milter to your postfix MTA. My biggest open question is how to integrate the SA bayes filter, esp. when and on what folders to do training. I train sa only using the autolearn feature. Ok. Regards, Florian
Re: When/How to train bayes from user mail?
Zitat von Florian Lindner mailingli...@xgm.de: Since we move our server (and upgrade from oldstabe to stable) I want to reconsider how I organize mails serverside. Debian, MTA is postfix, MDA maildrop (like procmail), IMAP was courier, will be dovecot. if you use dovecot, maildrop is obsolete. deliver your mail via LMTP (or dovecot-lda) to dovecot and let dovecot-sieve do the filtering to subfolders. Also consider using amavisd-new + clamav + spamassassin to REJECT mails. (not accept + delete) You may connect amavisd-new as SMTPD_PROXY or using amavisd-milter to your postfix MTA. My biggest open question is how to integrate the SA bayes filter, esp. when and on what folders to do training. I train sa only using the autolearn feature. Andreas
