Re: block Bayes autolearn for specific messages

2017-05-10 Thread John Hardin

On Wed, 10 May 2017, David B Funk wrote:


On Wed, 10 May 2017, John Hardin wrote:


 On Wed, 10 May 2017, David B Funk wrote:

>  Is there any way to use Bayes autolearn in general but prevent it from 
>  learning specific messages?
> 
>  I have a specific source of messages (Office-365) which I would like to 
>  prevent from being autolearn (with out scoring them as spam).
> 
>  I still want those messages to be SA scored using the normal methods, 
>  just not be considered -at-all- for autolearning.


 bayes_ignore_from u...@example.com

 bayes_ignore_to u...@example.com


John,
Thanks for the suggestion but I still want Bayes classifier run on those 
messages, just no autolearning.


bayes_ignore_(to|from) prevents both.


Yeah, I was wondering about that being a deal killer.

Is there some kind of score calculation rule that does something along the 
line of "if total score is less than N, add M"


Nope.

I think you may be stuck doing something like saving those messages and 
running them through sa-learn --forget.


You might want to open a bugzilla feature request for something like

  tflags  RULENAME  suppress_autolearn

and/or

  bayes_noautolearn_(to|from)


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Re: block Bayes autolearn for specific messages

2017-05-10 Thread David B Funk

On Wed, 10 May 2017, John Hardin wrote:


On Wed, 10 May 2017, David B Funk wrote:

Is there any way to use Bayes autolearn in general but prevent it from 
learning specific messages?


I have a specific source of messages (Office-365) which I would like to 
prevent from being autolearn (with out scoring them as spam).


I still want those messages to be SA scored using the normal methods, just 
not be considered -at-all- for autolearning.


bayes_ignore_from u...@example.com

bayes_ignore_to u...@example.com


John,
Thanks for the suggestion but I still want Bayes classifier run on those 
messages, just no autolearning.


bayes_ignore_(to|from) prevents both.

I've already got a rule that adds a small score (0.3) to those messages but 
unfortunately they hit minus-score rules (EG: RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_*, 
KHOP_RCVD_TRUST, etc) often enough that they still get learned.


I could jack up the local score add but then I run the risk of FPing O365 
messages that don't hit the minus-score rules.


Is there some kind of score calculation rule that does something along the line 
of "if total score is less than N, add M"


Dave

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Re: block Bayes autolearn for specific messages

2017-05-10 Thread RW
On Wed, 10 May 2017 11:33:44 -0500 (CDT)
David B Funk wrote:

> Is there any way to use Bayes autolearn in general but prevent it
> from learning specific messages?
> 
> I have a specific source of messages (Office-365) which I would like
> to prevent from being autolearn (with out scoring them as spam).

Perhaps, but it's a bit cheesy. If you are trying to prevent them
being learned as ham you could make a rule that scores something like 

   6 6 0.001 0.001

i.e. that adds little to the classification score, but adds enough to
the autolearning score to sabotage ham learning. 

If this to keep the


Re: block Bayes autolearn for specific messages

2017-05-10 Thread John Hardin

On Wed, 10 May 2017, David B Funk wrote:

Is there any way to use Bayes autolearn in general but prevent it from 
learning specific messages?


I have a specific source of messages (Office-365) which I would like to 
prevent from being autolearn (with out scoring them as spam).


I still want those messages to be SA scored using the normal methods, just 
not be considered -at-all- for autolearning.


bayes_ignore_from u...@example.com

bayes_ignore_to u...@example.com

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