Re: emailBL devel ?

2009-11-24 Thread Yet Another Ninja

On 11/24/2009 6:22 PM, R-Elists wrote:

didnt anyone think that the emailBL project was good enough in adding an
extra factor of protection to continue development?

 - rh


Freemail.pm plugin does it pretty well without the overhead and cron'd 
replication lag...


Re: emailBL devel ?

2009-11-24 Thread Benny Pedersen

On tir 24 nov 2009 18:22:25 CET, R-Elists wrote

didnt anyone think that the emailBL project was good enough in adding an
extra factor of protection to continue development?


+1

even without more devel on it, what does miss ?

so far i have just seen one big problem with it, dns servers / mirrors

and maybe we like to kick that user on web :)

--
xpoint



Re: emailBL devel ?

2009-11-24 Thread Benny Pedersen

On tir 24 nov 2009 18:30:15 CET, Yet Another Ninja wrote
Freemail.pm plugin does it pretty well without the overhead and  
cron'd replication lag...


just one problem with freemail it should list all domain as freemail  
as default, unless there is a clear sign of payment to get it


otherway around is to easy for spammers

--
xpoint



Re: emailBL devel ?

2009-11-24 Thread McDonald, Dan
On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 09:22 -0800, R-Elists wrote:
> didnt anyone think that the emailBL project was good enough in adding an
> extra factor of protection to continue development?

I'm using it with a locally sourced set of "bad actors".  Unfortunately,
I don't believe I'm allow to share the data.


-- 
Daniel J McDonald, CCIE # 2495, CISSP # 78281, CNX
www.austinenergy.com


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Re: emailBL devel ?

2009-11-24 Thread Yet Another Ninja

On 11/24/2009 6:34 PM, Benny Pedersen wrote:

On tir 24 nov 2009 18:30:15 CET, Yet Another Ninja wrote
Freemail.pm plugin does it pretty well without the overhead and cron'd 
replication lag...


just one problem with freemail it should list all domain as freemail as 
default, unless there is a clear sign of payment to get it


otherway around is to easy for spammers



you mean a rhsdnsbl?
iirc, there's a bunch of them around.

seems simpler than adding 1 domains to freemail's config .-)


Re: emailBL devel ?

2009-11-24 Thread Benny Pedersen

On tir 24 nov 2009 19:02:29 CET, Yet Another Ninja wrote

seems simpler than adding 1 domains to freemail's config .-)


that why i like to change it to be paidmail.pm with lists of paid domains

got it now ? :)

spammers can get any free domain and it can continue as a freemail,  
but when some have to paid, oh well


intresting part is that i see most spam comes from freemail domains,  
and when i see spam from paid domains its content in body that is  
spam, not the sender domain, so far i see a pattern there


--
xpoint



Re: emailBL devel ?

2009-11-24 Thread Yet Another Ninja

On 11/24/2009 7:10 PM, Benny Pedersen wrote:

On tir 24 nov 2009 19:02:29 CET, Yet Another Ninja wrote

seems simpler than adding 1 domains to freemail's config .-)


that why i like to change it to be paidmail.pm with lists of paid domains

got it now ? :)

spammers can get any free domain and it can continue as a freemail, but 
when some have to paid, oh well


intresting part is that i see most spam comes from freemail domains, and 
when i see spam from paid domains its content in body that is spam, not 
the sender domain, so far i see a pattern there




sounds like a great idea.. let us know when you're ready so we can start 
testing...