SA Tag Spam from compromised web mails
How could a two character tag like SA be annoying? You must never use a blackberry or iPhone to check your email either. At 11:12 AM 12/15/2009, RW wrote: On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:44:50 -0500 Jeff Koch jeffk...@intersessions.com wrote: I have to say that it is extremely annoying that this mailing list does not put a tag identifying itself in the subject line. Every other mailing list of a similar technical nature that I participate in has a tag. I'm exactly the opposite, hardly any of the lists I subscribe to do that, and I find it annoying when it's done. Every list mail comes with a List-Id header so you can filter, tag or whatever. I'd find it annoying to look at a list where every single message starts with [sa-user]. Best Regards, Jeff Koch, Intersessions
SA Tag - Spam from compromised web mails
Why be forced into using one mail client? Hey, it's almost 2010 - people use multiple devices to check email - smartphones, PDA's, mail to voice, webmail, internet cafes. The days of using only one client are long past. You can still use IMAP on a main PC to keep your email sorted - but why not also make it easy to follow discussions on other devices? At 12:00 PM 12/15/2009, Toni Mueller wrote: Hi, On Tue, 15.12.2009 at 11:44:49 -0500, Charles Gregory cgreg...@hwcn.org wrote: On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Jeff Koch wrote: I have to say that it is extremely annoying that this mailing list does not put a tag identifying itself in the subject line. Every other mailing list of a similar technical nature that I participate in has a tag. A tag of two characters would allow users to quickly identify the email as coming from the SA mailing list and decide whether the email is worth opening. +1 -100 As you may have noticed, I've got my procmail set to insert one (as seen above). But this has the unfortunate side-effect of messing with threading in some threaded mail clients and archives :( I don't know the abilities of Alpine, but if you use procmail anyway, why can't you simply sort on the List-Id header? :0 * ^List-Id: .users.spamassassin.apache.org $MAILDIR/spamassassin/ Kind regards, --Toni++ Best Regards, Jeff Koch, Intersessions
Re: SA Tag Spam from compromised web mails
On tir 15 dec 2009 18:22:00 CET, Jeff Koch wrote How could a two character tag like SA be annoying? You must never use a blackberry or iPhone to check your email either. open your eyes and see more, both the above smartphones above can handle imap just fine, but i just test it from nokia e51, should i prove it ? but agree if you use pop3 its hard to see another folder, no matter what client you use -- xpoint http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html
Re: SA Tag - Spam from compromised web mails
Hi, On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Jeff Koch jeffk...@intersessions.comwrote: Why be forced into using one mail client? Hey, it's almost 2010 - people use multiple devices to check email - smartphones, PDA's, mail to voice, webmail, internet cafes. The days of using only one client are long past. You can still use IMAP on a main PC to keep your email sorted - but why not also make it easy to follow discussions on other devices? At 12:00 PM 12/15/2009, Toni Mueller wrote: Hi, On Tue, 15.12.2009 at 11:44:49 -0500, Charles Gregory cgreg...@hwcn.org wrote: On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Jeff Koch wrote: I have to say that it is extremely annoying that this mailing list does not put a tag identifying itself in the subject line. Every other mailing list of a similar technical nature that I participate in has a tag. A tag of two characters would allow users to quickly identify the email as coming from the SA mailing list and decide whether the email is worth opening. +1 -100 As you may have noticed, I've got my procmail set to insert one (as seen above). But this has the unfortunate side-effect of messing with threading in some threaded mail clients and archives :( I don't know the abilities of Alpine, but if you use procmail anyway, why can't you simply sort on the List-Id header? :0 * ^List-Id: .users.spamassassin.apache.org $MAILDIR/spamassassin/ Or when using Exchange, just make the rules server side ... then they are also applied to all mail ... whether how many diff clients you are using ... I really dont see you problem Jeff ... if its nice to have ... make your what ever server your are using add them ... its 2010 as you said. :-) Kind regards, --Toni++ Best Regards, Jeff Koch, Intersessions mvh Mikael Syska
Re: SA Tag Spam from compromised web mails
On 15-Dec-2009, at 10:22, Jeff Koch wrote: At 11:12 AM 12/15/2009, RW wrote: I'd find it annoying to look at a list where every single message starts with [sa-user]. How could a two character tag like SA be annoying? You must never use a blackberry or iPhone to check your email either. [sa-user] is 11 characters, not 2. And it's 9 characters at the beginning of the subject, pushing actual DATA off the right side of whatever display you are using. All this because some people are too lazy/incompetent to sort their mail? Punish the many for the failings of the few. No thanks. -- I WILL NOT TRADE PANTS WITH OTHERS Bart chalkboard Ep. 7F05
Re: SA Tag Spam from compromised web mails
On 15-Dec-2009, at 10:52, Jeff Koch wrote: At 12:41 PM 12/15/2009, Benny Pedersen wrote: open your eyes and see more, both the above smartphones above can handle imap just fine, but i just test it from nokia e51, should i prove it ? Of course an iPhone can see IMAP folders. But what's going to sort mail into folders when I'm traveling for a week and the office PC is turned off? Server side IMAP rules? Procmail? Mailsieve? -- Light thinks it travels faster than anything but it's wrong. No matter how fast light travels it finds the darkness has always got there first, and is waiting for it. --Reaper Man
Re: SA Tag Spam from compromised web mails
Hi, You use the mailserver - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sieve_%28mail_filtering_language%29 And all are happy and can do what they want ... add the tag to the subject ... remove it. Personal pref can be made ... mvh On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Jeff Koch jeffk...@intersessions.comwrote: Of course an iPhone can see IMAP folders. But what's going to sort mail into folders when I'm traveling for a week and the office PC is turned off? At 12:41 PM 12/15/2009, Benny Pedersen wrote: On tir 15 dec 2009 18:22:00 CET, Jeff Koch wrote How could a two character tag like SA be annoying? You must never use a blackberry or iPhone to check your email either. open your eyes and see more, both the above smartphones above can handle imap just fine, but i just test it from nokia e51, should i prove it ? but agree if you use pop3 its hard to see another folder, no matter what client you use -- xpoint http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html Best Regards, Jeff Koch, Intersessions
Re: SA Tag Spam from compromised web mails
On Tue, 15.12.2009 at 12:52:44 -0500, Jeff Koch jeffk...@intersessions.com wrote: Of course an iPhone can see IMAP folders. But what's going to sort mail into folders when I'm traveling for a week and the office PC is turned off? The server on which the imap server runs? Kind regards, --Toni++
Re: SA Tag Spam from compromised web mails
As I said not everyone controls the mailserver they get their list mail from. At 12:55 PM 12/15/2009, LuKreme wrote: On 15-Dec-2009, at 10:52, Jeff Koch wrote: At 12:41 PM 12/15/2009, Benny Pedersen wrote: open your eyes and see more, both the above smartphones above can handle imap just fine, but i just test it from nokia e51, should i prove it ? Of course an iPhone can see IMAP folders. But what's going to sort mail into folders when I'm traveling for a week and the office PC is turned off? Server side IMAP rules? Procmail? Mailsieve? -- Light thinks it travels faster than anything but it's wrong. No matter how fast light travels it finds the darkness has always got there first, and is waiting for it. --Reaper Man Best Regards, Jeff Koch, Intersessions
Re: SA Tag Spam from compromised web mails
On tir 15 dec 2009 18:52:44 CET, Jeff Koch wrote Of course an iPhone can see IMAP folders. But what's going to sort mail into folders when I'm traveling for a week and the office PC is turned off? never tryed a google email at gmail ? well sieve is the answer, not the clients problem you have in the gui in front of you, sieve rules can be applyed from webmail and will do there work for all your clients first version of squirrelmail i used could just filter at login time, so if i have being away for one single day it could force me to not have a succesfull login since there was to much mail to filter at login time, this problem is gone now with sieve in dovecot, and now i just use horde webmail, but i am still free to use any gui if i want it, if i just remember to NOT edit sieve rules in them -- xpoint http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html
Re: SA Tag Spam from compromised web mails
On Dec 15, 2009, at 12:02 PM, Jeff Koch wrote: As I said not everyone controls the mailserver they get their list mail from. Then why are they on a mailing list for people who run mail servers? Chris - Chris Owen - Garden City (620) 275-1900 - Lottery (noun): President - Wichita (316) 858-3000 -A stupidity tax Hubris Communications Inc www.hubris.net -
Re: SA Tag Spam from compromised web mails
Instead of trying to make points why not read the whole thread? As I said in a prior response - not everyone has management control over the mailserver they use to get SA list mail. At 01:01 PM 12/15/2009, Toni Mueller wrote: On Tue, 15.12.2009 at 12:52:44 -0500, Jeff Koch jeffk...@intersessions.com wrote: Of course an iPhone can see IMAP folders. But what's going to sort mail into folders when I'm traveling for a week and the office PC is turned off? The server on which the imap server runs? Kind regards, --Toni++ Best Regards, Jeff Koch, Intersessions
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I give up! Best Regards, Jeff Koch, Intersessions
Re: SA Tag Spam from compromised web mails
On Dec 15, 2009, at 11:55, Jeff Koch jeffk...@intersessions.com wrote: Instead of trying to make points why not read the whole thread? As I said in a prior response - not everyone has management control over the mailserver they use to get SA list mail. You do not need 'management control' over a mailserver to filter mail.
Can SA tag addresses seen for the first time?
Hello list:
This is the challenge I face. I would like to be able to filter emails
based on MySQL-stored preferences. For each email coming in, I would like
SpamAssassin to check the database for $WHITELISTED or $BLACKLISTED email
addresses and tag the email as ${UNSEEN} if it is a newly seen address.
Is SA able to perform this task? Are there any other known projects that
would be able to perform this job?
Thanks,
Ron
Re: Can SA tag addresses seen for the first time?
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 11:22:55AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
based on MySQL-stored preferences. For each email coming in, I would like
SpamAssassin to check the database for $WHITELISTED or $BLACKLISTED email
addresses and tag the email as ${UNSEEN} if it is a newly seen address.
Is SA able to perform this task? Are there any other known projects that
would be able to perform this job?
You could pretty easily write a plugin for it.
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