X-Spam-Headers at top of email
For some reason when I upgraded recently, Spamassassin is now placing the X-Spam headers at the top of the email rather than at the end of the headers section as it had been. Is there an option I can set, or does anyone know why it has suddenly changed where it puts the headers? Thanks Ben
RE: X-Spam-Headers at top of email
It's a bug in spamass-milter 0.3.0. Upgrade to 0.3.1 -Sietse From: Ben Wylie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 12-Jun-06 12:56 To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: X-Spam-Headers at top of email For some reason when I upgraded recently, Spamassassin is now placing the X-Spam headers at the top of the email rather than at the end of the headers section as it had been. Is there an option I can set, or does anyone know why it has suddenly changed where it puts the headers? Thanks Ben
Re: X-Spam-Headers at top of email
Ben Wylie wrote: I am running SpamAssassin version 3.1.2 on windows 2003 server called via the command line, so I think it must be something in SpamAssassin that has changed. There was a change introduced in SA 3.1.0. This has been discussed on this list before, a quick search will find the discussions: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spamassassin.general/72378/match=headers+location Thanks Ben -Original Message- From: Sietse van Zanen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 June 2006 12:00 To: Ben Wylie; users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: RE: X-Spam-Headers at top of email It's a bug in spamass-milter 0.3.0. Upgrade to 0.3.1 -Sietse From: Ben Wylie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 12-Jun-06 12:56 To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: X-Spam-Headers at top of email For some reason when I upgraded recently, Spamassassin is now placing the X-Spam headers at the top of the email rather than at the end of the headers section as it had been. Is there an option I can set, or does anyone know why it has suddenly changed where it puts the headers? Thanks Ben -- Anthony Peacock CHIME, Royal Free University College Medical School WWW:http://www.chime.ucl.ac.uk/~rmhiajp/ If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. -- George Bernard Shaw
RE: X-Spam-Headers at top of email
Well, it has. But AFAIK it has not caused problems on other than spamass-milter. Search the mailing list, there's much more on this issue. But not sure about win2003 installations of it. -Sietse From: Ben Wylie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 12-Jun-06 13:40 To: Sietse van Zanen; users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: RE: X-Spam-Headers at top of email I am running SpamAssassin version 3.1.2 on windows 2003 server called via the command line, so I think it must be something in SpamAssassin that has changed. Thanks Ben -Original Message- From: Sietse van Zanen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 June 2006 12:00 To: Ben Wylie; users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: RE: X-Spam-Headers at top of email It's a bug in spamass-milter 0.3.0. Upgrade to 0.3.1 -Sietse From: Ben Wylie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 12-Jun-06 12:56 To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: X-Spam-Headers at top of email For some reason when I upgraded recently, Spamassassin is now placing the X-Spam headers at the top of the email rather than at the end of the headers section as it had been. Is there an option I can set, or does anyone know why it has suddenly changed where it puts the headers? Thanks Ben
Re: X-Spam-Headers at top of email
Hi Sietse, The original poster didn't actually explain why this was a problem for him. So I was explaining why the position of the headers had changed. Sietse van Zanen wrote: Well, it has. But AFAIK it has not caused problems on other than spamass-milter. Search the mailing list, there's much more on this issue. But not sure about win2003 installations of it. -Sietse From: Ben Wylie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 12-Jun-06 13:40 To: Sietse van Zanen; users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: RE: X-Spam-Headers at top of email I am running SpamAssassin version 3.1.2 on windows 2003 server called via the command line, so I think it must be something in SpamAssassin that has changed. Thanks Ben -Original Message- From: Sietse van Zanen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 June 2006 12:00 To: Ben Wylie; users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: RE: X-Spam-Headers at top of email It's a bug in spamass-milter 0.3.0. Upgrade to 0.3.1 -Sietse From: Ben Wylie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 12-Jun-06 12:56 To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: X-Spam-Headers at top of email For some reason when I upgraded recently, Spamassassin is now placing the X-Spam headers at the top of the email rather than at the end of the headers section as it had been. Is there an option I can set, or does anyone know why it has suddenly changed where it puts the headers? Thanks Ben -- Anthony Peacock CHIME, Royal Free University College Medical School WWW:http://www.chime.ucl.ac.uk/~rmhiajp/ If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. -- George Bernard Shaw
RE: X-Spam-Headers at top of email
Well, I think he was talking about the headers popping up in the e-mail (the body), and thtat is definitely a problem. And looks very much like the problem casued by/with spamass-milter. But he indeed should have been more clear, not even specifying whcih platform, new + old versions, configurations etc. I wonder why people are nowedays even becoming too lazy to take a little time explaining their problems and still expect people to readily give them the correct answers. I also wonder, why I keep replying. :-) Though my rule of thumb is, short questions, get short answers -Sietse From: Anthony Peacock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 12-Jun-06 14:02 To: SpamAssassin Users Subject: Re: X-Spam-Headers at top of email Hi Sietse, The original poster didn't actually explain why this was a problem for him. So I was explaining why the position of the headers had changed. Sietse van Zanen wrote: Well, it has. But AFAIK it has not caused problems on other than spamass-milter. Search the mailing list, there's much more on this issue. But not sure about win2003 installations of it. -Sietse From: Ben Wylie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 12-Jun-06 13:40 To: Sietse van Zanen; users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: RE: X-Spam-Headers at top of email I am running SpamAssassin version 3.1.2 on windows 2003 server called via the command line, so I think it must be something in SpamAssassin that has changed. Thanks Ben -Original Message- From: Sietse van Zanen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 June 2006 12:00 To: Ben Wylie; users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: RE: X-Spam-Headers at top of email It's a bug in spamass-milter 0.3.0. Upgrade to 0.3.1 -Sietse From: Ben Wylie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 12-Jun-06 12:56 To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: X-Spam-Headers at top of email For some reason when I upgraded recently, Spamassassin is now placing the X-Spam headers at the top of the email rather than at the end of the headers section as it had been. Is there an option I can set, or does anyone know why it has suddenly changed where it puts the headers? Thanks Ben -- Anthony Peacock CHIME, Royal Free University College Medical School WWW:http://www.chime.ucl.ac.uk/~rmhiajp/ If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. -- George Bernard Shaw
Re: X-Spam-Headers at top of email
Hi, I reread the original email and I agree it can be read both ways. Without further information it is hard to tell. Anyway, the OP now has enough clues to at least come back here with more information. Sietse van Zanen wrote: Well, I think he was talking about the headers popping up in the e-mail (the body), and thtat is definitely a problem. And looks very much like the problem casued by/with spamass-milter. But he indeed should have been more clear, not even specifying whcih platform, new + old versions, configurations etc. I wonder why people are nowedays even becoming too lazy to take a little time explaining their problems and still expect people to readily give them the correct answers. I also wonder, why I keep replying. :-) Though my rule of thumb is, short questions, get short answers -Sietse From: Anthony Peacock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 12-Jun-06 14:02 To: SpamAssassin Users Subject: Re: X-Spam-Headers at top of email Hi Sietse, The original poster didn't actually explain why this was a problem for him. So I was explaining why the position of the headers had changed. Sietse van Zanen wrote: Well, it has. But AFAIK it has not caused problems on other than spamass-milter. Search the mailing list, there's much more on this issue. But not sure about win2003 installations of it. -Sietse From: Ben Wylie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 12-Jun-06 13:40 To: Sietse van Zanen; users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: RE: X-Spam-Headers at top of email I am running SpamAssassin version 3.1.2 on windows 2003 server called via the command line, so I think it must be something in SpamAssassin that has changed. Thanks Ben -Original Message- From: Sietse van Zanen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 June 2006 12:00 To: Ben Wylie; users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: RE: X-Spam-Headers at top of email It's a bug in spamass-milter 0.3.0. Upgrade to 0.3.1 -Sietse From: Ben Wylie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 12-Jun-06 12:56 To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: X-Spam-Headers at top of email For some reason when I upgraded recently, Spamassassin is now placing the X-Spam headers at the top of the email rather than at the end of the headers section as it had been. Is there an option I can set, or does anyone know why it has suddenly changed where it puts the headers? Thanks Ben -- Anthony Peacock CHIME, Royal Free University College Medical School WWW:http://www.chime.ucl.ac.uk/~rmhiajp/ If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. -- George Bernard Shaw -- Anthony Peacock CHIME, Royal Free University College Medical School WWW:http://www.chime.ucl.ac.uk/~rmhiajp/ If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. -- George Bernard Shaw
RE: X-Spam-Headers at top of email
I'm very sorry for not being clearer or provide the required information. The change is that the X-Spam headers are now at the very top of the headers section, whereas previously they had been at the bottom of the headers. This is not a problem, but was unexpected and I thought it to be some sort of error. I thought the standard was to add new headers to the bottom of the list of headers so you could see clearly in which order the headers had been added. I will not be using domain keys and as I think it is neater having the X-Spam headers at the bottom of the headers list I would like to have some sort of conf option to have them how they were, but this does not seem possible. I realise that I should always provide platform information and all those details but sometimes I forget and this time I thought that it was a General SpamAssassin issue which was probably why I thought it unnecessary. As it turns out, it wasn't a platform specific problem after all. However, thanks for your help and sorry for causing trouble and confusion. Ben PS What is the best medium to search the list archives, because I have not been very successful in finding relevant posts when I have problems? -Original Message- From: Sietse van Zanen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 June 2006 13:24 To: SpamAssassin Users Subject: RE: X-Spam-Headers at top of email Well, I think he was talking about the headers popping up in the e-mail (the body), and thtat is definitely a problem. And looks very much like the problem casued by/with spamass-milter. But he indeed should have been more clear, not even specifying whcih platform, new + old versions, configurations etc. I wonder why people are nowedays even becoming too lazy to take a little time explaining their problems and still expect people to readily give them the correct answers. I also wonder, why I keep replying. :-) Though my rule of thumb is, short questions, get short answers -Sietse From: Anthony Peacock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 12-Jun-06 14:02 To: SpamAssassin Users Subject: Re: X-Spam-Headers at top of email Hi Sietse, The original poster didn't actually explain why this was a problem for him. So I was explaining why the position of the headers had changed. Sietse van Zanen wrote: Well, it has. But AFAIK it has not caused problems on other than spamass-milter. Search the mailing list, there's much more on this issue. But not sure about win2003 installations of it. -Sietse From: Ben Wylie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 12-Jun-06 13:40 To: Sietse van Zanen; users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: RE: X-Spam-Headers at top of email I am running SpamAssassin version 3.1.2 on windows 2003 server called via the command line, so I think it must be something in SpamAssassin that has changed. Thanks Ben -Original Message- From: Sietse van Zanen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 June 2006 12:00 To: Ben Wylie; users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: RE: X-Spam-Headers at top of email It's a bug in spamass-milter 0.3.0. Upgrade to 0.3.1 -Sietse From: Ben Wylie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 12-Jun-06 12:56 To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: X-Spam-Headers at top of email For some reason when I upgraded recently, Spamassassin is now placing the X-Spam headers at the top of the email rather than at the end of the headers section as it had been. Is there an option I can set, or does anyone know why it has suddenly changed where it puts the headers? Thanks Ben -- Anthony Peacock CHIME, Royal Free University College Medical School WWW:http://www.chime.ucl.ac.uk/~rmhiajp/ If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. -- George Bernard Shaw
Re: X-Spam-Headers at top of email
Examine the headers if this email, Ben.
You should see something like this:
DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws;
s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net;
b=i4B11JScmztoFnQh3L1dmNgJJ5LVrH4KvL6IDhr5usaFJCVhE+LJEBcXMk75qfx+;
h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP;
Received: from [71.116.167.175] (helo=Wednesday)
by elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34)
id 1FltBj-00075j-CX
for users@spamassassin.apache.org; Thu, 01 Jun 2006 15:50:35 -0400
And something like this:
X-ELNK-Trace:
bb89ecdb26a8f9f24d2b10475b571120f889c95d8c8c9425737e3fd793879b263bd6f2aa67ad2da1350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c
X-Originating-IP: 71.116.167.175
X-ELNK-AV: 0
X-ELNK-Info: sbv=0; sbrc=.0; sbf=00; sbw=000;
These various signatures are SUPPOSED to provide some proof about what
is contained below with checksums to verify their authenticity.
If you complain to Earthlink about spam including these headers without
any interspersed anti-spam headers is a great help. Unfortunately there
are still tools, such as ClamAV, which place headers at the bottom. Even
this list's software modifies headers below the DomainKey-Signature line.
At least SpamAssassin is trying to do what it can to do the right thing.
{^_^}
- Original Message -
From: Ben Wylie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm very sorry for not being clearer or provide the required information.
The change is that the X-Spam headers are now at the very top of the headers
section, whereas previously they had been at the bottom of the headers. This
is not a problem, but was unexpected and I thought it to be some sort of
error. I thought the standard was to add new headers to the bottom of the
list of headers so you could see clearly in which order the headers had been
added. I will not be using domain keys and as I think it is neater having
the X-Spam headers at the bottom of the headers list I would like to have
some sort of conf option to have them how they were, but this does not seem
possible.
I realise that I should always provide platform information and all those
details but sometimes I forget and this time I thought that it was a General
SpamAssassin issue which was probably why I thought it unnecessary. As it
turns out, it wasn't a platform specific problem after all.
However, thanks for your help and sorry for causing trouble and confusion.
Ben
PS What is the best medium to search the list archives, because I have not
been very successful in finding relevant posts when I have problems?
-Original Message-
From: Sietse van Zanen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 12 June 2006 13:24
To: SpamAssassin Users
Subject: RE: X-Spam-Headers at top of email
Well, I think he was talking about the headers popping up in the e-mail (the
body), and thtat is definitely a problem. And looks very much like the
problem casued by/with spamass-milter.
But he indeed should have been more clear, not even specifying whcih
platform, new + old versions, configurations etc.
I wonder why people are nowedays even becoming too lazy to take a little
time explaining their problems and still expect people to readily give them
the correct answers. I also wonder, why I keep replying. :-) Though my rule
of thumb is, short questions, get short answers
-Sietse
From: Anthony Peacock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mon 12-Jun-06 14:02
To: SpamAssassin Users
Subject: Re: X-Spam-Headers at top of email
Hi Sietse,
The original poster didn't actually explain why this was a problem for
him. So I was explaining why the position of the headers had changed.
Sietse van Zanen wrote:
Well, it has. But AFAIK it has not caused problems on other than
spamass-milter.
Search the mailing list, there's much more on this issue. But not sure
about win2003 installations of it.
-Sietse
From: Ben Wylie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mon 12-Jun-06 13:40
To: Sietse van Zanen; users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: RE: X-Spam-Headers at top of email
I am running SpamAssassin version 3.1.2 on windows 2003 server called via
the command line, so I think it must be something in SpamAssassin that has
changed.
Thanks
Ben
-Original Message-
From: Sietse van Zanen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 12 June 2006 12:00
To: Ben Wylie; users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: RE: X-Spam-Headers at top of email
It's a bug in spamass-milter 0.3.0. Upgrade to 0.3.1
-Sietse
From: Ben Wylie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mon 12-Jun-06 12:56
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: X-Spam-Headers at top of email
For some reason when I upgraded recently, Spamassassin is now placing the
X-Spam headers at the top of the email rather than at the end of the
headers
section as it had been. Is there an option I can set, or does
