Re: prefork error

2008-06-23 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 20.06.08 13:20, raulbe wrote:
> Couple new errors now :(
> 
>  config: cannot write to /var/spool/uucp/.spamassassin/user_prefs: No such
> file or directory
> 
> 
>  spamd[19476]: spamd: processing message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> for uucp:10

there are independent on those you reported before... Someone is sending
mail to uucp user, most probably spam, but you can look at its mailbox.
You should alias such system users to someone else...

> Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
> > 
> > On 20.06.08 08:18, raulbe wrote:
> >> Now if I can figure out why I keep getting the bayes.lock error any
> >> clues?
> > 
> >> Jun 20 11:02:41 ws096 spamd[20261]: bayes: cannot open bayes databases
> >> /home/nuonce/spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: lock failed: File exists
> > 
> > do you have autolearning turned on? what about journal?
> > (settings bayes_auto_learn and bayes_learn_to_journal).
> > the default settings (1 and 0) can cause such problems. Try turning on the
> > latter or off the former

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Re: prefork error

2008-06-20 Thread Benny Pedersen

On Fri, June 20, 2008 22:38, raulbe wrote:

> Were can i find these settings?

perldoc Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf
perldoc Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Bayes

plenty of info there :)

> would it be in spamassassin.bayes_rules or
> 23_bayes.cf

no in local.cf or user_prefs


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Re: prefork error

2008-06-20 Thread Kris Deugau

raulbe wrote:

Were can i find these settings?

would it be in spamassassin.bayes_rules or
23_bayes.cf


As with all site-local settings, the Bayes options should go in a .cf 
file in your site config dir - typically either /etc/mail/spamassassin/ 
or /etc/spamassassin/.  local.cf is usually convenient.


I'm not sure what you're referring to with "spamassassin.bayes_rules".

-kgd


Re: prefork error

2008-06-20 Thread raulbe

Were can i find these settings?

would it be in spamassassin.bayes_rules or
23_bayes.cf


Thanks




Kris Deugau wrote:
> 
> raulbe wrote:
>> What I did was turn off auto_learn and that cleared up the error. So
>> would
>> doing this would it affect how bayes works or?
> 
> Well, yes.  All Bayes training will now have to be done manually.
> 
> What's usually a slightly better idea for a global Bayes database is to 
> set these Bayes options:
> 
> bayes_learn_to_journal  1
> bayes_auto_expire   0
> 
> and make sure to set up a cron job to run "sa-learn --sync 
> --force-expire" periodically (I've been finding daily is a good idea;
> YMMV).
> 
>> So all thats left is this error 
>> 
>> spamd[29330]: prefork: child states: BIBI
> 
> This isn't an error, it's an informational message telling you what 
> spamd's children are doing.
> 
> If you really want to get rid of it, you'll either have to shift the 
> logging threshold for the "mail" facility in syslog until it goes away 
> (thus likely losing a great deal of valuable log data from both SA and 
> other sources) or fiddle the SA source so that those messages get sent 
> with a "debug" priority, and set syslog to not log debug-priority
> messages.
> 
> Unless you're *really* horribly short on disk (I can recall a few 
> systems I might have considered that on), it's not worth worrying about.
> 
> -kgd
> 
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Re: prefork error

2008-06-20 Thread Kris Deugau

raulbe wrote:

What I did was turn off auto_learn and that cleared up the error. So would
doing this would it affect how bayes works or?


Well, yes.  All Bayes training will now have to be done manually.

What's usually a slightly better idea for a global Bayes database is to 
set these Bayes options:


bayes_learn_to_journal  1
bayes_auto_expire   0

and make sure to set up a cron job to run "sa-learn --sync 
--force-expire" periodically (I've been finding daily is a good idea; YMMV).


So all thats left is this error 


spamd[29330]: prefork: child states: BIBI


This isn't an error, it's an informational message telling you what 
spamd's children are doing.


If you really want to get rid of it, you'll either have to shift the 
logging threshold for the "mail" facility in syslog until it goes away 
(thus likely losing a great deal of valuable log data from both SA and 
other sources) or fiddle the SA source so that those messages get sent 
with a "debug" priority, and set syslog to not log debug-priority messages.


Unless you're *really* horribly short on disk (I can recall a few 
systems I might have considered that on), it's not worth worrying about.


-kgd


Re: prefork error

2008-06-20 Thread raulbe

Couple new errors now :(

 config: cannot write to /var/spool/uucp/.spamassassin/user_prefs: No such
file or directory


 spamd[19476]: spamd: processing message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
for uucp:10







Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
> 
> On 20.06.08 08:18, raulbe wrote:
>> Now if I can figure out why I keep getting the bayes.lock error any
>> clues?
> 
>> Jun 20 11:02:41 ws096 spamd[20261]: bayes: cannot open bayes databases
>> /home/nuonce/spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: lock failed: File exists
> 
> do you have autolearning turned on? what about journal?
> (settings bayes_auto_learn and bayes_learn_to_journal).
> the default settings (1 and 0) can cause such problems. Try turning on the
> latter or off the former
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Re: prefork error

2008-06-20 Thread raulbe

What I did was turn off auto_learn and that cleared up the error. So would
doing this would it affect how bayes works or?

Also doing the editing in 

confQUEUE_LA
confREFUSE_LA
confDELAY_LA 

totaly cleared up the prefork: server reached --max-children setting,
consider raising it  error i was getting.

So all thats left is this error 

spamd[29330]: prefork: child states: BIBI


any ideas to clear that one up?

Thanks for the help.



Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
> 
> On 20.06.08 08:18, raulbe wrote:
>> Now if I can figure out why I keep getting the bayes.lock error any
>> clues?
> 
>> Jun 20 11:02:41 ws096 spamd[20261]: bayes: cannot open bayes databases
>> /home/nuonce/spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: lock failed: File exists
> 
> do you have autolearning turned on? what about journal?
> (settings bayes_auto_learn and bayes_learn_to_journal).
> the default settings (1 and 0) can cause such problems. Try turning on the
> latter or off the former
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Re: prefork error

2008-06-20 Thread Benny Pedersen

On Fredag, 20/6 2008, 16:55, raulbe wrote:
> So should the entry look like this?
> confQUEUE_LA=1
> confREFUSE_LA=1

this is based on load avage

> confDELAY_LA =1

this is based on deley secunds (keep this litte more then your scan time pr 
mail)

with 1 you scan every email/spam in just one sec, and sendmail accept new spam
in that time


see the page i linked to in the first place :/


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Re: prefork error

2008-06-20 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 20.06.08 08:18, raulbe wrote:
> Now if I can figure out why I keep getting the bayes.lock error any clues?

> Jun 20 11:02:41 ws096 spamd[20261]: bayes: cannot open bayes databases
> /home/nuonce/spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: lock failed: File exists

do you have autolearning turned on? what about journal?
(settings bayes_auto_learn and bayes_learn_to_journal).
the default settings (1 and 0) can cause such problems. Try turning on the
latter or off the former
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Re: prefork error

2008-06-20 Thread raulbe

THanks so much for the help


Now if I can figure out why I keep getting the bayes.lock error any clues?


 bayes: cannot open bayes databases /home/nuonce/spamassassin/bayes_* R/W:
lock failed: File exists
Jun 20 11:02:41 ws096 spamd[20261]: bayes: cannot open bayes databases
/home/nuonce/spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: lock failed: File exists
Jun 20 11:02:42 ws096 spamd[20262]: bayes: cannot open bayes databases
/home/nuonce/spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: lock failed: File exists
Jun 20 11:02:42 ws096 spamd[20260]: bayes: cannot open bayes databases
/home/nuonce/spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: lock failed: File exists
Jun 20 11:02:42 ws096 spamd[20259]: bayes: cannot open bayes databases
/home/nuonce/spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: lock failed: File exists




Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
> 
> On 20.06.08 07:55, raulbe wrote:
>> So should the entry look like this?
>> 
>> 
>> confQUEUE_LA=1
>> confREFUSE_LA=1
>> confDELAY_LA =1
> 
> as you wish, I have those higher. My machine can handle load of 1.0 very
> well and so I expect yours. I have those set to (3,5,unset).
> 
> instead of DELAY_LA I use 
> 
> FEATURE(`greet_pause', `1')dnl 10 seconds
> 
> which delays connections for 10 seconds (can be whitelisted in access DB).
> I also use ident which delays them more for some firewalls on user
> machines
> :)
> 
> 
>> Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
>> > 
>> > On 19.06.08 13:54, raulbe wrote:
>> >> were do I find these lines?
>> > 
>> >> confQUEUE_LA
>> >> confREFUSE_LA
>> >> confDELAY_LA 
>> > 
>> >> I looked in both the sendmail.cf file and the sendmail.mc  file and
>> didnt
>> >> see them?
>> > 
>> > you'll see them in cf.README(.gz) and you can add them to sendmail.mc
> 
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Re: prefork error

2008-06-20 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 20.06.08 07:55, raulbe wrote:
> So should the entry look like this?
> 
> 
> confQUEUE_LA=1
> confREFUSE_LA=1
> confDELAY_LA =1

as you wish, I have those higher. My machine can handle load of 1.0 very
well and so I expect yours. I have those set to (3,5,unset).

instead of DELAY_LA I use 

FEATURE(`greet_pause', `1')dnl 10 seconds

which delays connections for 10 seconds (can be whitelisted in access DB).
I also use ident which delays them more for some firewalls on user machines
:)


> Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
> > 
> > On 19.06.08 13:54, raulbe wrote:
> >> were do I find these lines?
> > 
> >> confQUEUE_LA
> >> confREFUSE_LA
> >> confDELAY_LA 
> > 
> >> I looked in both the sendmail.cf file and the sendmail.mc  file and didnt
> >> see them?
> > 
> > you'll see them in cf.README(.gz) and you can add them to sendmail.mc

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Re: prefork error

2008-06-20 Thread raulbe

So should the entry look like this?


confQUEUE_LA=1
confREFUSE_LA=1
confDELAY_LA =1





Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
> 
> On 19.06.08 13:54, raulbe wrote:
>> were do I find these lines?
> 
>> confQUEUE_LA
>> confREFUSE_LA
>> confDELAY_LA 
> 
>> I looked in both the sendmail.cf file and the sendmail.mc  file and didnt
>> see them?
> 
> you'll see them in cf.README(.gz) and you can add them to sendmail.mc
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Re: prefork error

2008-06-19 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 19.06.08 13:54, raulbe wrote:
> were do I find these lines?

> confQUEUE_LA
> confREFUSE_LA
> confDELAY_LA 

> I looked in both the sendmail.cf file and the sendmail.mc  file and didnt
> see them?

you'll see them in cf.README(.gz) and you can add them to sendmail.mc
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Re: prefork error

2008-06-19 Thread raulbe

were do I find these lines?

adjust

confQUEUE_LA
confREFUSE_LA
confDELAY_LA 


I looked in both the sendmail.cf file and the sendmail.mc  file and didnt
see them?


thanks

Benny Pedersen wrote:
> 
> 
> On Torsdag, 19/6 2008, 18:36, raulbe wrote:
>>
>> I am using sendmail as my mta
> 
> http://www.sendmail.org/m4/tweaking_config.html
> 
> adjust
> 
> confQUEUE_LA
> confREFUSE_LA
> confDELAY_LA
> 
> delay is default 0, but in your case it should be little more then what
> time
> spamd uses pr scan msgs
> 
> all the abouve settings help on the specifik problem you have that
> sendmail
> accepts to much msgs at once so migh need to be adjusted
> 
> and i use postfix so my advice can be bogus, but i belive it this
> 
> 
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Re: prefork error

2008-06-19 Thread David B Funk
On Thu, 19 Jun 2008, raulbe wrote:

>
> I am using sendmail as my mta
>
>
> # rpm -q sendmail
> sendmail-8.13.1-3.2.el4
>
>
> What wierd is that the error clears up and then starts again after a while.
> Also I noticed we are getting hit with a considerable amount of spam. Plus I
> think our spamassassin version is old
>
> # rpm -q spamassassin
> spamassassin-3.1.9-1.el4

Try using round-robin rather than prefork scheduling with your SA.
( add the "--round-robin" command line option to your spamd startup).
We had similar prefork issues with our installation and switching to
round-robin fixed it.


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Re: prefork error

2008-06-19 Thread Benny Pedersen

On Torsdag, 19/6 2008, 18:37, raulbe wrote:

> I also notice this error in the maillog
>  spamd: still running as root: user not specified with -u, not found, or set
> to root, falling back to nobody

make a bug on this issue to your distro, its not really a bug but it could be
solved in the rpm file


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Re: prefork error

2008-06-19 Thread Benny Pedersen

On Torsdag, 19/6 2008, 18:36, raulbe wrote:
>
> I am using sendmail as my mta

http://www.sendmail.org/m4/tweaking_config.html

adjust

confQUEUE_LA
confREFUSE_LA
confDELAY_LA

delay is default 0, but in your case it should be little more then what time
spamd uses pr scan msgs

all the abouve settings help on the specifik problem you have that sendmail
accepts to much msgs at once so migh need to be adjusted

and i use postfix so my advice can be bogus, but i belive it this


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Re: prefork error

2008-06-19 Thread raulbe

I also notice this error in the maillog

 spamd: still running as root: user not specified with -u, not found, or set
to root, falling back to nobody






raulbe wrote:
> 
> I am using sendmail as my mta
> 
> 
> # rpm -q sendmail
> sendmail-8.13.1-3.2.el4
> 
> 
> What wierd is that the error clears up and then starts again after a
> while. Also I noticed we are getting hit with a considerable amount of
> spam. Plus I think our spamassassin version is old
> 
> # rpm -q spamassassin
> spamassassin-3.1.9-1.el4
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Benny Pedersen wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, June 18, 2008 20:36, raulbe wrote:
>> 
>>> What I did was edit etc/sysconfig/spamassassin  and up the max from 8 to
>>> 10
>>> now that worked for a while but now the error has returned. What could
>>> be
>>> causing the server not to be able to handle all the processes?
>> 
>> problem might be that you mta accepts to much spam, or even to much
>> connections that your spamd cant handle at once :/
>> 
>> tell us what mta you use
>> 
>> 
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Re: prefork error

2008-06-19 Thread raulbe

I am using sendmail as my mta


# rpm -q sendmail
sendmail-8.13.1-3.2.el4


What wierd is that the error clears up and then starts again after a while.
Also I noticed we are getting hit with a considerable amount of spam. Plus I
think our spamassassin version is old

# rpm -q spamassassin
spamassassin-3.1.9-1.el4







Benny Pedersen wrote:
> 
> 
> On Wed, June 18, 2008 20:36, raulbe wrote:
> 
>> What I did was edit etc/sysconfig/spamassassin  and up the max from 8 to
>> 10
>> now that worked for a while but now the error has returned. What could be
>> causing the server not to be able to handle all the processes?
> 
> problem might be that you mta accepts to much spam, or even to much
> connections that your spamd cant handle at once :/
> 
> tell us what mta you use
> 
> 
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Re: prefork error

2008-06-18 Thread Benny Pedersen

On Wed, June 18, 2008 20:36, raulbe wrote:

> What I did was edit etc/sysconfig/spamassassin  and up the max from 8 to 10
> now that worked for a while but now the error has returned. What could be
> causing the server not to be able to handle all the processes?

problem might be that you mta accepts to much spam, or even to much
connections that your spamd cant handle at once :/

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prefork error

2008-06-18 Thread raulbe

i started getting these errors recently 

spamd[28248]: prefork: child states: BBB
 spamd[28248]: prefork: server reached --max-children setting, consider
raising it
 spamd[9708]: spamd: connection from localhost [127.0.0.1] at port 47029
 spamd[9708]: spamd: setuid to parts succeeded
 spamd[9491]: bayes: cannot open bayes databases
/home/nuonce/spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: lock failed: File exists
 spamd[4093]: bayes: cannot open bayes databases
/home/nuonce/spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: lock failed: File exists

What I did was edit etc/sysconfig/spamassassin  and up the max from 8 to 10
now that worked for a while but now the error has returned. What could be
causing the server not to be able to handle all the processes?

Thanks again
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