Re: whitelist_from_rcvd not working for me

2006-03-13 Thread JamesDR

James Long wrote:

James Long wrote:
In my SpamAssassin-3.1.0 (p5-Mail-SpamAssassin-3.1.0_6) local.cf, I 
use:



...
trusted_networks 127.0.0.0/8 65.75.198.48/28 63.105.30.37/32

^^

	Your IP for the ns.museum.rain.com comes back as 65.75.198.49, are you 
sure this is correct?


	I think what is happening here is sa isn't finding a local server, and 
gives up. My guess is that adding/changing that to .49 will help.


The first Received by statement is this (last server)
"by ns.museum.rain.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id"

When doing a lookup this is what I get (your internal DNS may be diff.):
Name:ns.museum.rain.com
Address:  65.75.198.49

HTH
--
Thanks,
JamesDR


Thanks for your reply.

My understanding is that "65.75.198.48/28" means that all IPs in that subnet
will be trusted.  Your DNS server returns the correct IP for ns.museum.rain.com.
The /32 is another server at a colo site.  I trust that server.

Are you saying that ns.museum.rain.com's own IP should not be listed as a 
trusted
server?  Earlier advice I received from this list suggested that it should be.

Clarification appreciated.

Jim




Yeah, I missed the /28 ... Long weekend, need to reply to email's after 
plenty of sleep :-D


Sorry for the confusion.

--
Thanks,
James


Re: whitelist_from_rcvd not working for me

2006-03-12 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea

On 3/12/2006 8:13 PM, James Long wrote:
Mail sent via SMTP should have all of it's headers parsed correctly and 
your whitelist_from_rcvd should work.



Yet, it doesn't.  One of the nightly server log messages has been
getting rejected because SA thinks it is spam, and doesn't see the
whitelist_from_rcvd entry for it.  (sendmail log below)


OK, to I should have wrote "Mail submitted" and not "Mail sent" above.

In any case, if you can change your local submission header so that it 
doesn't include the (envelope-from james) part, it'll be successfully 
parsed.


ie. If you can change your Sendmail config so that it generates headers 
that look like this instead:


Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED])
by ns.umpquanet.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k2CJ9LT4065172
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 11:09:21 -0800 (PST)


If your headers, as they are now, are from a default configuration, 
please open a bug about them not being parsed at: 
http://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/




BTW, is there an easy way to troubleshoot this from the command line,
with perhaps a sample message in a text file that I can just use as
input to SA, so that I don't have to use up bandwidth and also put a
large number of test messages into my mailbox?  Is it as simple as
'spamassassin -t < textfilename' ?


Yeah.


Daryl



Re: whitelist_from_rcvd not working for me

2006-03-12 Thread James Long
> On 3/12/2006 2:21 PM, James Long wrote:
> > In my SpamAssassin-3.1.0 (p5-Mail-SpamAssassin-3.1.0_6) local.cf, I 
> > use:
> > 
> > 
> > ...
> > trusted_networks 127.0.0.0/8 65.75.198.48/28 63.105.30.37/32
> > ...
> > whitelist_from_rcvd [EMAIL PROTECTED] ns.umpquanet.com
> > ...
> > 
> > 
> > yet messages that I had hoped would match that whitelist entry
> > are not.  How can I fix this?
> 
> SA can't parse the first (oldest) received header.  Since that header is 
> a local submission header, I wouldn't worry about it.
> 
> Mail sent via SMTP should have all of it's headers parsed correctly and 
> your whitelist_from_rcvd should work.

Yet, it doesn't.  One of the nightly server log messages has been
getting rejected because SA thinks it is spam, and doesn't see the
whitelist_from_rcvd entry for it.  (sendmail log below)

> No, it must be listed, as it is now.

Okay, so I feel comfortable that my trusted_networks line is correct.
On to troubleshooting the whitelist_from_rcvd.

BTW, is there an easy way to troubleshoot this from the command line,
with perhaps a sample message in a text file that I can just use as
input to SA, so that I don't have to use up bandwidth and also put a
large number of test messages into my mailbox?  Is it as simple as
'spamassassin -t < textfilename' ?

Thanks again,

Jim



Sendmail log excerpt from ns.museum.rain.com:

Mar 12 03:04:26 ns sm-mta[44915]: NOQUEUE: connect from ns.umpquanet.com 
[63.105.30.37]
Mar 12 03:04:26 ns sm-mta[44915]: k2CB4QKW044915: Milter (spamassassin): init 
success to negotiate
Mar 12 03:04:26 ns sm-mta[44915]: k2CB4QKW044915: Milter (greylist): init 
success to negotiate
Mar 12 03:04:26 ns sm-mta[44915]: k2CB4QKW044915: Milter: connect to filters
Mar 12 03:04:26 ns sm-mta[44915]: k2CB4QKW044915: milter=spamassassin, 
action=connect, continue
Mar 12 03:04:26 ns sm-mta[44915]: k2CB4QKW044915: milter=greylist, 
action=connect, continue
Mar 12 03:04:26 ns sm-mta[44915]: k2CB4QKW044915: --- 220 ns.museum.rain.com 
ESMTP Sendmail 8.13.4/8.13.4; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 03:04:26 -0800 (PST)
Mar 12 03:04:26 ns sm-mta[44915]: k2CB4QKW044915: <-- EHLO ns.umpquanet.com
Mar 12 03:04:26 ns sm-mta[44915]: k2CB4QKW044915: milter=spamassassin, 
action=helo, continue
Mar 12 03:04:26 ns sm-mta[44915]: k2CB4QKW044915: --- 250-ns.museum.rain.com 
Hello ns.umpquanet.com [63.105.30.37], pleased to meet you
Mar 12 03:04:26 ns sm-mta[44915]: k2CB4QKW044915: --- 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
Mar 12 03:04:26 ns sm-mta[44915]: k2CB4QKW044915: --- 250-PIPELINING
Mar 12 03:04:26 ns sm-mta[44915]: k2CB4QKW044915: --- 250-8BITMIME
Mar 12 03:04:26 ns sm-mta[44915]: k2CB4QKW044915: --- 250-SIZE
Mar 12 03:04:26 ns sm-mta[44915]: k2CB4QKW044915: --- 250-DSN
Mar 12 03:04:26 ns sm-mta[44915]: k2CB4QKW044915: --- 250-ETRN
Mar 12 03:04:26 ns sm-mta[44915]: k2CB4QKW044915: --- 250-STARTTLS
Mar 12 03:04:26 ns sm-mta[44915]: k2CB4QKW044915: --- 250-DELIVERBY
Mar 12 03:04:26 ns sm-mta[44915]: k2CB4QKW044915: --- 250 HELP
Mar 12 03:04:26 ns sm-mta[44915]: k2CB4QKW044915: <-- STARTTLS
Mar 12 03:04:26 ns sm-mta[44915]: k2CB4QKW044915: --- 220 2.0.0 Ready to start 
TLS
Mar 12 03:04:26 ns sm-mta[44915]: STARTTLS=server, get_verify: 0 get_peer: 0x0
Mar 12 03:04:26 ns sm-mta[44915]: STARTTLS=server, relay=ns.umpquanet.com 
[63.105.30.37], version=TLSv1/SSLv3, verify=NO, cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA, 
bits=256/256
Mar 12 03:04:26 ns sm-mta[44915]: STARTTLS=server, cert-subject=, cert-issuer=, 
verifymsg=ok
Mar 12 03:04:26 ns sm-mta[44915]: k2CB4QKW044915: <-- EHLO ns.umpquanet.com
Mar 12 03:04:26 ns sm-mta[44915]: k2CB4QKX044915: milter=spamassassin, 
action=helo, continue
Mar 12 03:04:26 ns sm-mta[44915]: k2CB4QKX044915: --- 250-ns.museum.rain.com 
Hello ns.umpquanet.com [63.105.30.37], pleased to meet you
Mar 12 03:04:26 ns sm-mta[44915]: k2CB4QKX044915: --- 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
Mar 12 03:04:26 ns sm-mta[44915]: k2CB4QKX044915: --- 250-PIPELINING
Mar 12 03:04:26 ns sm-mta[44915]: k2CB4QKX044915: --- 250-8BITMIME
Mar 12 03:04:26 ns sm-mta[44915]: k2CB4QKX044915: --- 250-SIZE
Mar 12 03:04:26 ns sm-mta[44915]: k2CB4QKX044915: --- 250-DSN
Mar 12 03:04:26 ns sm-mta[44915]: k2CB4QKX044915: --- 250-ETRN
Mar 12 03:04:26 ns sm-mta[44915]: k2CB4QKX044915: --- 250-DELIVERBY
Mar 12 03:04:26 ns sm-mta[44915]: k2CB4QKX044915: --- 250 HELP
Mar 12 03:04:26 ns sm-mta[44915]: k2CB4QKX044915: <-- MAIL From:<[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> SIZE=9162
Mar 12 03:04:26 ns sm-mta[44915]: k2CB4QKX044915: Milter: senders: <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>
Mar 12 03:04:26 ns sm-mta[44915]: k2CB4QKX044915: milter=spamassassin, 
action=mail, continue
Mar 12 03:04:26 ns sm-mta[44915]: k2CB4QKX044915: milter=greylist, action=mail, 
continue
Mar 12 03:04:26 ns sm-mta[44915]: k2CB4QKX044915: --- 250 2.1.0 <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>... Sender ok
Mar 12 03:04:26 ns sm-mta[44915]: k2CB4QKX044915: <-- RCPT To:<[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>
Mar 12 03:04:26 ns sm-mta[44915]: k2CB4QKX044915: Milter: rcpts: <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>
Mar 12 03:04:26 ns sm-mta[44915]: k2CB4QKX044915: milter=spama

Re: whitelist_from_rcvd not working for me

2006-03-12 Thread jdow

From: "JamesDR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


James Long wrote:
In my SpamAssassin-3.1.0 (p5-Mail-SpamAssassin-3.1.0_6) local.cf, I 
use:



...
trusted_networks 127.0.0.0/8 65.75.198.48/28 63.105.30.37/32

^^

Your IP for the ns.museum.rain.com comes back as 65.75.198.49, are you 
sure this is correct?


I think what is happening here is sa isn't finding a local server, and 
gives up. My guess is that adding/changing that to .49 will help.


The first Received by statement is this (last server)
"by ns.museum.rain.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id"

When doing a lookup this is what I get (your internal DNS may be diff.):
Name:ns.museum.rain.com
Address:  65.75.198.49


65.75.198.49 is within CIDR 65.75.198.48/28

{^_-}



Re: whitelist_from_rcvd not working for me

2006-03-12 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea

On 3/12/2006 2:21 PM, James Long wrote:
In my SpamAssassin-3.1.0 (p5-Mail-SpamAssassin-3.1.0_6) local.cf, I 
use:



...
trusted_networks 127.0.0.0/8 65.75.198.48/28 63.105.30.37/32
...
whitelist_from_rcvd [EMAIL PROTECTED] ns.umpquanet.com
...


yet messages that I had hoped would match that whitelist entry
are not.  How can I fix this?


SA can't parse the first (oldest) received header.  Since that header is 
a local submission header, I wouldn't worry about it.


Mail sent via SMTP should have all of it's headers parsed correctly and 
your whitelist_from_rcvd should work.




My understanding is that "65.75.198.48/28" means that all IPs in that subnet
will be trusted.  Your DNS server returns the correct IP for ns.museum.rain.com.
The /32 is another server at a colo site.  I trust that server.


Yeah 65.75.198.48/28 covers 65.75.198.48-63.



Are you saying that ns.museum.rain.com's own IP should not be listed as a 
trusted
server?  Earlier advice I received from this list suggested that it should be.


No, it must be listed, as it is now.


Daryl



Re: whitelist_from_rcvd not working for me

2006-03-12 Thread James Long
> James Long wrote:
> > In my SpamAssassin-3.1.0 (p5-Mail-SpamAssassin-3.1.0_6) local.cf, I 
> > use:
> > 
> > 
> > ...
> > trusted_networks 127.0.0.0/8 65.75.198.48/28 63.105.30.37/32
> ^^
> 
>   Your IP for the ns.museum.rain.com comes back as 65.75.198.49, are you 
> sure this is correct?
> 
>   I think what is happening here is sa isn't finding a local server, and 
> gives up. My guess is that adding/changing that to .49 will help.
> 
>   The first Received by statement is this (last server)
> "by ns.museum.rain.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id"
> 
>   When doing a lookup this is what I get (your internal DNS may be diff.):
> Name:ns.museum.rain.com
> Address:  65.75.198.49
> 
> HTH
> -- 
> Thanks,
> JamesDR

Thanks for your reply.

My understanding is that "65.75.198.48/28" means that all IPs in that subnet
will be trusted.  Your DNS server returns the correct IP for ns.museum.rain.com.
The /32 is another server at a colo site.  I trust that server.

Are you saying that ns.museum.rain.com's own IP should not be listed as a 
trusted
server?  Earlier advice I received from this list suggested that it should be.

Clarification appreciated.

Jim


Re: whitelist_from_rcvd not working for me

2006-03-12 Thread JamesDR

James Long wrote:
In my SpamAssassin-3.1.0 (p5-Mail-SpamAssassin-3.1.0_6) local.cf, I 
use:



...
trusted_networks 127.0.0.0/8 65.75.198.48/28 63.105.30.37/32

^^

	Your IP for the ns.museum.rain.com comes back as 65.75.198.49, are you 
sure this is correct?


	I think what is happening here is sa isn't finding a local server, and 
gives up. My guess is that adding/changing that to .49 will help.


The first Received by statement is this (last server)
"by ns.museum.rain.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id"

When doing a lookup this is what I get (your internal DNS may be diff.):
Name:ns.museum.rain.com
Address:  65.75.198.49

HTH
--
Thanks,
JamesDR


smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature


whitelist_from_rcvd not working for me

2006-03-12 Thread James Long
In my SpamAssassin-3.1.0 (p5-Mail-SpamAssassin-3.1.0_6) local.cf, I 
use:


...
trusted_networks 127.0.0.0/8 65.75.198.48/28 63.105.30.37/32
...
whitelist_from_rcvd [EMAIL PROTECTED] ns.umpquanet.com
...


yet messages that I had hoped would match that whitelist entry
are not.  How can I fix this?

Thanks!

Jim


>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Mar 12 11:09:27 2006
Received: from ns.umpquanet.com (ns.umpquanet.com [63.105.30.37])
by ns.museum.rain.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k2CJ9L90046330
(version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO)
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 11:09:21 -0800 (PST)
(envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Received: from ns.umpquanet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])
by ns.umpquanet.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k2CJ9McY065173
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 11:09:22 -0800 (PST)
(envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED])
by ns.umpquanet.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k2CJ9LT4065172
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 11:09:21 -0800 (PST)
(envelope-from james)
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 11:09:21 -0800 (PST)
From: James Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: test
X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=UNPARSEABLE_RELAY
autolearn=failed version=3.1.0
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on ns.museum.rain.com
X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 
(ns.museum.rain.com [65.75.198.50]); Sun, 12 Mar
 2006 11:09:27 -0800 (PST)