First Hands-on Subversion—Where/How?
Dear Subversion cognoscenti, Seriously intentioned to explore what Subversion is all about, armed with good will and a good reference book (“Version Control with Subversion”, by Ben Collins-Sussman, Brian W. Fitzpatrick, C. Michael Pilato), I got immediately lost stuck at the very first command: $ svn help ?] That said, where/how on earth could I get such Subversion grass-roots commands working?Is there any practical way, any practical tool, any practical good soul/good organisation where to find a test client-server setup where to (seriously) “play” with Subversion VCS? I'd be happy to begin even with a tiny a client-server set-up onto a machine of mine, would such a tool available; even no idea whether such a naïve idea of mine is feasible or not. Gratefully yours, - P.M. Ref.: dr. Pietro Moras Email studio...@hotmail.com
Re: First Hands-on Subversion—Where/How?
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Pietro Moras studio...@hotmail.comwrote:
Dear Subversion cognoscenti,
Seriously intentioned to explore what Subversion is all about, armed
with good will and a good reference book (“Version Control with
Subversion”, by Ben Collins-Sussman, Brian W. Fitzpatrick, C. Michael
Pilato), I got immediately lost stuck at the very first command:
$ svn help
?] That said, where/how on earth could I get such Subversion grass-roots
commands working?
Is there any practical way, any practical tool, any practical good
soul/good organisation where to find a test client-server setup where to
(seriously) “play” with Subversion VCS? I'd be happy to begin even with a
tiny a client-server set-up onto a machine of mine, would such a tool
available; even no idea whether such a naïve idea of mine is feasible or
not.
Gratefully yours,
- P.M.
Ref.:
dr. Pietro Moras
Email studio...@hotmail.com
Greetings Pietro,
Start here http://svnbook.red-bean.com/
Then I would recommend a Google search like *install subversion
{platform_or_distro_you_use}* -- for example here's a good quick overview
at Ubuntu https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion
Remember, `Subversion` is both a client software and a server software, so
it doesn't do you much good to learn `svn ___` (client) unless you have
already used svnadmin to create a repository... (server). You can do this
all locally, or on a VM (I would recommend go this route, eg virtualbox, if
you're on Windows).
Post back here with more specific questions as you go.
RE: First Hands-on Subversion—Where/How?
more specific questions
My pleasure, dear
Geoff, Here you have some
very Specific Questions.
SQ1] How to get what I
presume is a nice Subversion prompt:
$
on one of my
standard Windows machines, so to test the wonderful Subversion
commands so eloquently described by the mentioned self-declared
Official Guide and Reference Manual, so practically useless at the
very beginning of a learning process; that is, exactly when you need
most practical and effective information and support?
SQ2] Why should I go
scrabbling and begging via Google for practical, operative info, I'd
reasonably expected to find right away at page 1 on the mentioned
book, or at the page 1 on the Subversion web site?
SQ3] Am I the first
Subversion potential user starting from scratch?
Everybody else
knowing how to set-up a Subversion environment even before beginning
to use it?
Of course thank you for
pointing me to the right direction. Of course.
All the best. Yours, - P.M.
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 11:20:54 -0700
Subject: Re: First Hands-on Subversion—Where/How?
From: ghoff...@cardinalpath.com
To: studio...@hotmail.com
CC: users@subversion.apache.org
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Pietro Moras studio...@hotmail.com wrote:
Dear Subversion
cognoscenti,
Seriously
intentioned to explore what Subversion is all about, armed with good
will and a good reference book (“Version Control with Subversion”,
by Ben Collins-Sussman, Brian W. Fitzpatrick, C.
Michael Pilato),
I got immediately lost stuck at the very first command:
$
svn help
?] That said, where/how on earth
could I get such Subversion grass-roots commands working?Is there any
practical way, any practical tool, any practical good soul/good
organisation where to find a test client-server setup where to
(seriously) “play” with Subversion VCS? I'd be happy to begin
even with a tiny a client-server set-up onto a machine of mine, would
such a tool available; even no idea whether such a naïve idea of
mine is feasible or not.
Gratefully yours,
-
P.M.
Ref.:
dr. Pietro Moras
Email
studio...@hotmail.com
Greetings Pietro,
Start here http://svnbook.red-bean.com/
Then I would recommend a Google search like install subversion
{platform_or_distro_you_use} -- for example here's a good quick overview at
Ubuntu https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion
Remember, `Subversion` is both a client software and a server software, so it
doesn't do you much good to learn `svn ___` (client) unless you have already
used svnadmin to create a repository... (server). You can do this all locally,
or on a VM (I would recommend go this route, eg virtualbox, if you're on
Windows).
Post back here with more specific questions as you go.
Re: First Hands-on Subversion—Where/How?
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Pietro Moras studio...@hotmail.com wrote: more specific questions My pleasure, dear Geoff, Here you have some very Specific Questions. SQ1] How to get what I presume is a nice Subversion prompt: $ There is no prompt, other than terminal. Read the redbook please... or # svn --help CollabNet ( http://www.collab.net/downloads/subversion/ ) makes the most well known Windows ports of the software, with regular Windows installers for the software. Look for Subversion Edge: A certified software stack containing the latest versions of Subversion, Apache, and ViewVC: That's the fastest way to get started on Windows, IMO. Used to be free, don't know if it is anymore. OR -- The other thing you might want to do is sign up for a free trial at SpringLoops.com or Beanstalkapp.com -- there you can have the Subversion Server part all figured out for you, so you can play with the client only. Configuring the server is somewhat non-trivial for a beginner especially. on one of my standard Windows machines, so to test the wonderful Subversion commands so eloquently described by the mentioned self-declared Official Guide and Reference Manual, so practically useless at the very beginning of a learning process; that is, exactly when you need most practical and effective information and support? SQ2] Why should I go scrabbling and begging via Google for practical, operative info, I'd reasonably expected to find right away at page 1 on the mentioned book, or at the page 1 on the Subversion web site? Because lots of people have posted lots of info and tutorials on the topic. SQ3] Am I the first Subversion potential user starting from scratch? Everybody else knowing how to set-up a Subversion environment even before beginning to use it? Nope, they all went to Google and the Redbean book. Of course thank you for pointing me to the right direction. Of course. All the best. Yours, - P.M. You're welcome -
Re: First Hands-on Subversion—Where/How?
Dear Pietro,
I think you should start your learning Subversion from learning what a
command line is. Subversion manual is no substitute for knowing the OS.
Or alternatively, have someone install a repostory for you and go with a GUI
client, such as TortoiseSVN.
Regards,
Alexey.
On Friday, October 28, 2011 03:52:31 pm Pietro Moras wrote:
more specific questions
My pleasure, dear
Geoff, Here you have some
very Specific Questions.
SQ1] How to get what I
presume is a nice Subversion prompt:
$
on one of my
standard Windows machines, so to test the wonderful Subversion
commands so eloquently described by the mentioned self-declared
Official Guide and Reference Manual, so practically useless at the
very beginning of a learning process; that is, exactly when you need
most practical and effective information and support?
SQ2] Why should I go
scrabbling and begging via Google for practical, operative info, I'd
reasonably expected to find right away at page 1 on the mentioned
book, or at the page 1 on the Subversion web site?
SQ3] Am I the first
Subversion potential user starting from scratch?
Everybody else
knowing how to set-up a Subversion environment even before beginning
to use it?
Of course thank you for
pointing me to the right direction. Of course.
All the best. Yours, - P.M.
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 11:20:54 -0700
Subject: Re: First Hands-on Subversion—Where/How?
From: ghoff...@cardinalpath.com
To: studio...@hotmail.com
CC: users@subversion.apache.org
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Pietro Moras studio...@hotmail.com
wrote:
Dear Subversion
cognoscenti,
Seriously
intentioned to explore what Subversion is all about, armed with good
will and a good reference book (“Version Control with Subversion”,
by Ben Collins-Sussman, Brian W. Fitzpatrick, C.
Michael Pilato),
I got immediately lost stuck at the very first command:
$
svn help
?] That said, where/how on earth
could I get such Subversion grass-roots commands working?Is there any
practical way, any practical tool, any practical good soul/good
organisation where to find a test client-server setup where to
(seriously) “play” with Subversion VCS? I'd be happy to begin
even with a tiny a client-server set-up onto a machine of mine, would
such a tool available; even no idea whether such a naïve idea of
mine is feasible or not.
Gratefully yours,
-
P.M.
Ref.:
dr. Pietro Moras
Email
studio...@hotmail.com
Greetings Pietro,
Start here http://svnbook.red-bean.com/
Then I would recommend a Google search like install subversion
{platform_or_distro_you_use} -- for example here's a good quick overview
at Ubuntu https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion
Remember, `Subversion` is both a client software and a server software, so
it doesn't do you much good to learn `svn ___` (client) unless you have
already used svnadmin to create a repository... (server). You can do this
all locally, or on a VM (I would recommend go this route, eg virtualbox,
if you're on Windows).
Post back here with more specific questions as you go.
Re: First Hands-on Subversion—Where/How?
On Oct 28, 2011, at 5:52 PM, Pietro Moras wrote: more specific questions My pleasure, dear Geoff, Here you have some very Specific Questions. SQ1] How to get what I presume is a nice Subversion prompt: $ on one of my standard Windows machines, so to test the wonderful Subversion commands so eloquently described by the mentioned self-declared Official Guide and Reference Manual, so practically useless at the very beginning of a learning process; that is, exactly when you need most practical and effective information and support? I think the idea of the book is that it's a guide on how to *use* Subversion, not a guide on how to *get* it. As a parallel, books on how to use MS Word don't tell you on page 1 that the first step is to visit your favorite software retailer and purchase a copy of Word--they assume that you already have Word installed. SQ2] Why should I go scrabbling and begging via Google for practical, operative info, I'd reasonably expected to find right away at page 1 on the mentioned book, or at the page 1 on the Subversion web site? It is one the figurative page 1 of the Subversion web site. The navigation menu on the left side of http://subversion.apache.org/ has a Getting Subversion section. Click the Binary Packages link, then the Windows link, then choose any of the packages that are listed. SQ3] Am I the first Subversion potential user starting from scratch? Everybody else knowing how to set-up a Subversion environment even before beginning to use it? The documentation has instructions on how to set up a Subversion environment.
