Re: Subversion Permissions Question.
Thank you very much for your help. - Monica On Feb 13, 2011, at 9:04 AM, Thorsten Schöning tschoen...@am-soft.de wrote: Guten Tag MonicaS, am Freitag, 11. Februar 2011 um 22:55 schrieben Sie: If I check with tortoiseSVN or with SVN list to Eng-Tech I get the following: ABC-SDKs J-SDKs I would think that this means that those directories are folders within the repo Eng-Tech, regardless of your file system structure, because svn list etc. doesn't combine file system level directories and repo level directories in their output. But they should have if those to folders where the repos beneath Eng-Tech in your file system. If I check with tortoiseSVN or with SVN list to ABC-SDK I get the following: A-SDKs B-SDKs C-SDKs This should be really the content of the repository itself. This means that A thru C SDKs folder belong to the repository ABC-SDKs and J-SDKs belongs to the J-SDKs repository; and Eng-Tech is empty. Maybe I'm wrong but I think Eng-Tech is not empty, but consists the folders you wrote first. Maybe Eng-Tech does have content, like the other repos unter Eng-Tech in the file system, but thos directories aren't used for some reason? Maybe your repos started that way, something didn't work as expected and things have changed? Are you able to rename the repos beneath Eng-Tech in your file system? That way nobody coudl use them anymore and you were really sure what is in the repo Eng-Tech and what is not. If you rename name ABC-SDKs to ABC-SDKs_ for some seconds, your svn list of Eng-Tech should refelct those renamings or it's clear that Eng-Tech does have content, the versioned directories ABC-SDKS and J-SDKs. This is why I'm or was confused. I wanted to understand why we have so many repositories. I noticed that some of the repositories are hard links to other file-systems. Maybe this was done because of the disk space... I don't know. In any case, your repo structure is not supported and you should change it after fully understanding it and possible. Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Thorsten Schöning -- Thorsten Schöning AM-SoFT IT-Systeme - Hameln | Potsdam | Leipzig Telefon: Potsdam: 0331-743881-0 E-Mail: tschoen...@am-soft.de Web: http://www.am-soft.de AM-SoFT GmbH IT-Systeme, Konsumhof 1-5, 14482 Potsdam Amtsgericht Potsdam HRB 21278 P, Geschäftsführer: Andreas Muchow
Re: Subversion Permissions Question.
Guten Tag MonicaS, am Freitag, 11. Februar 2011 um 22:55 schrieben Sie: If I check with tortoiseSVN or with SVN list to Eng-Tech I get the following: ABC-SDKs J-SDKs I would think that this means that those directories are folders within the repo Eng-Tech, regardless of your file system structure, because svn list etc. doesn't combine file system level directories and repo level directories in their output. But they should have if those to folders where the repos beneath Eng-Tech in your file system. If I check with tortoiseSVN or with SVN list to ABC-SDK I get the following: A-SDKs B-SDKs C-SDKs This should be really the content of the repository itself. This means that A thru C SDKs folder belong to the repository ABC-SDKs and J-SDKs belongs to the J-SDKs repository; and Eng-Tech is empty. Maybe I'm wrong but I think Eng-Tech is not empty, but consists the folders you wrote first. Maybe Eng-Tech does have content, like the other repos unter Eng-Tech in the file system, but thos directories aren't used for some reason? Maybe your repos started that way, something didn't work as expected and things have changed? Are you able to rename the repos beneath Eng-Tech in your file system? That way nobody coudl use them anymore and you were really sure what is in the repo Eng-Tech and what is not. If you rename name ABC-SDKs to ABC-SDKs_ for some seconds, your svn list of Eng-Tech should refelct those renamings or it's clear that Eng-Tech does have content, the versioned directories ABC-SDKS and J-SDKs. This is why I'm or was confused. I wanted to understand why we have so many repositories. I noticed that some of the repositories are hard links to other file-systems. Maybe this was done because of the disk space... I don't know. In any case, your repo structure is not supported and you should change it after fully understanding it and possible. Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Thorsten Schöning -- Thorsten Schöning AM-SoFT IT-Systeme - Hameln | Potsdam | Leipzig Telefon: Potsdam: 0331-743881-0 E-Mail: tschoen...@am-soft.de Web: http://www.am-soft.de AM-SoFT GmbH IT-Systeme, Konsumhof 1-5, 14482 Potsdam Amtsgericht Potsdam HRB 21278 P, Geschäftsführer: Andreas Muchow
Re: Subversion Permissions Question.
Guten Tag MonicaS, am Donnerstag, 10. Februar 2011 um 17:33 schrieben Sie: We are using an old version that we are going to upgrade as soon as we are confident that we understand the current configuration and setup. It should be possible to upgrade to a newer version even without understanding, because unless you dump and load your repositories, the old format and configuration is kept and should just work. You would just loose benefits of newer FSFS-versions or stuff like that, but can dump and load whenever you like. The authz file contains the following three lines. If I understood correctly, svnadmin will have rw permissions to the whole repository and the rest of the users will have read-only access. But all users are able to 'checkout' and 'submit' files. So what are these permissions really doing? [/] svnadmin = rw * = r Which users are in the group svadmin? If all, then all should be able to commit etc. I see the files svnserve.conf and authz on different subdirectories. Shouldn't these files be only in the main or initial folders of the repository? Per default those files should be in the conf-directory of the repository, but the location of authz can be configured in svnserve.conf. ### Uncomment the line below to use the default authorization file. authz-db = authz vs. ### Uncomment the line below to use the default authorization file. authz-db = ../../foo/bar/authz Other questions that I have are: - How can I get a full repository layout? svn help list svn list -R - How can I get the repository history since the revision 0 to the newest? svn help log svn log -r 0:HEAD - How can I get the list of revisions or commits for the whole repository? I'm doing using 'svn log' but I only get the current folder not recursive to the whole repo. The list of revisions euqals the log history, in your working copy you have to change to the root of the working copy. Also, I don't think I understand when a repository is a repository and when it is a directory under that repository. I checked some of the folders under the repository directory structure and I found that i can follow the directory structure up to certain point and then I cannot. For example: svn+ssh://user@server/Repo_name/main_folder1 Repo_name should be the repository itself, everything beneath is content in it. The repository is the name of the folder which has db, hooks, conf etc. a s subfolders in your file system. I cannot follow using a normal cd command the directory level of 'trunk', 'branches' and 'tags' in the repository directory. I only have the folders conf, dav, db,format, hooks, locks, README.txt but not 'branches', 'tags' and 'trunk'. The contents of the repository is unknown to your file system, therefore you need svn tools. svn help ls So, are main_folder1 and main_folder2 two different repositories or only one under Repo_name? Should be one under Repo_name, depending on the name of the folder with db, hooks etc. in it. Where I can find information about the database FSFS layout, schema and design? Maybe in the subversion sources, I don't know. But do you really think you need those information for administration purposes? Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Thorsten Schöning -- Thorsten Schöning AM-SoFT IT-Systeme - Hameln | Potsdam | Leipzig Telefon: Potsdam: 0331-743881-0 E-Mail: tschoen...@am-soft.de Web: http://www.am-soft.de AM-SoFT GmbH IT-Systeme, Konsumhof 1-5, 14482 Potsdam Amtsgericht Potsdam HRB 21278 P, Geschäftsführer: Andreas Muchow
Re: Subversion Permissions Question.
On Feb 11, 3:21 am, Thorsten Schöning tschoen...@am-soft.de wrote: Guten Tag MonicaS, am Donnerstag, 10. Februar 2011 um 17:33 schrieben Sie: We are using an old version that we are going to upgrade as soon as we are confident that we understand the current configuration and setup. It should be possible to upgrade to a newer version even without understanding, because unless you dump and load your repositories, the old format and configuration is kept and should just work. You would just loose benefits of newer FSFS-versions or stuff like that, but can dump and load whenever you like. It is good to know that. I'm going to try to do it as soon as the team is ready. The authz file contains the following three lines. If I understood correctly, svnadmin will have rw permissions to the whole repository and the rest of the users will have read-only access. But all users are able to 'checkout' and 'submit' files. So what are these permissions really doing? [/] svnadmin = rw * = r Which users are in the group svadmin? If all, then all should be able to commit etc. only one user belong to the svnadmin group. I see the files svnserve.conf and authz on different subdirectories. Shouldn't these files be only in the main or initial folders of the repository? Per default those files should be in the conf-directory of the repository, but the location of authz can be configured in svnserve.conf. ### Uncomment the line below to use the default authorization file. authz-db = authz vs. ### Uncomment the line below to use the default authorization file. authz-db = ../../foo/bar/authz OK, so only the repositories have the sub-directories db, conf, dav, format, hooks and locks. If this is true, this installation looks like only one repository but I really have 506 repositories. I have repositories under repositories. Other questions that I have are: - How can I get a full repository layout? svn help list svn list -R - How can I get the repository history since the revision 0 to the newest? svn help log svn log -r 0:HEAD - How can I get the list of revisions or commits for the whole repository? I'm doing using 'svn log' but I only get the current folder not recursive to the whole repo. The list of revisions euqals the log history, in your working copy you have to change to the root of the working copy. Also, I don't think I understand when a repository is a repository and when it is a directory under that repository. I checked some of the folders under the repository directory structure and I found that i can follow the directory structure up to certain point and then I cannot. For example: svn+ssh://user@server/Repo_name/main_folder1 Repo_name should be the repository itself, everything beneath is content in it. The repository is the name of the folder which has db, hooks, conf etc. a s subfolders in your file system. I cannot follow using a normal cd command the directory level of 'trunk', 'branches' and 'tags' in the repository directory. I only have the folders conf, dav, db,format, hooks, locks, README.txt but not 'branches', 'tags' and 'trunk'. The contents of the repository is unknown to your file system, therefore you need svn tools. Again, this open my eyes, we have one folder and everybody thinks that we have only one repository, but we really have 506, I was confused. Thank you for clarifying. svn help ls So, are main_folder1 and main_folder2 two different repositories or only one under Repo_name? Should be one under Repo_name, depending on the name of the folder with db, hooks etc. in it. Where I can find information about the database FSFS layout, schema and design? Maybe in the subversion sources, I don't know. But do you really think you need those information for administration purposes? I really don't need this. I love databases and each of the configuration tools that I worked, I always try to understand the database structure. For example a lot of people don't like ClearCase but I was an CC administrator for a while and I loved the database, they have a lot of documentation. I also understood the Peforce and I enjoyed doing some test :-) Thank you for your answers. Monica Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Thorsten Schöning -- Thorsten Schöning AM-SoFT IT-Systeme - Hameln | Potsdam | Leipzig Telefon: Potsdam: 0331-743881-0 E-Mail: tschoen...@am-soft.de Web: http://www.am-soft.de AM-SoFT GmbH IT-Systeme, Konsumhof 1-5, 14482 Potsdam Amtsgericht Potsdam HRB 21278 P, Geschäftsführer: Andreas Muchow
RE: Subversion Permissions Question.
On Feb 11, 3:21 am, Thorsten Schöning tschoen...@am-soft.de wrote: Guten Tag MonicaS, am Donnerstag, 10. Februar 2011 um 17:33 schrieben Sie: We are using an old version that we are going to upgrade as soon as we are confident that we understand the current configuration and setup. It should be possible to upgrade to a newer version even without understanding, because unless you dump and load your repositories, the old format and configuration is kept and should just work. You would just loose benefits of newer FSFS-versions or stuff like that, but can dump and load whenever you like. It is good to know that. I'm going to try to do it as soon as the team is ready. The authz file contains the following three lines. If I understood correctly, svnadmin will have rw permissions to the whole repository and the rest of the users will have read-only access. But all users are able to 'checkout' and 'submit' files. So what are these permissions really doing? [/] svnadmin = rw * = r Which users are in the group svadmin? If all, then all should be able to commit etc. only one user belong to the svnadmin group. Did you verify that subversion is actually configured to use the authz file? Just because it exists doesn't mean it is being used. I see the files svnserve.conf and authz on different subdirectories. Shouldn't these files be only in the main or initial folders of the repository? Per default those files should be in the conf-directory of the repository, but the location of authz can be configured in svnserve.conf. ### Uncomment the line below to use the default authorization file. authz-db = authz vs. ### Uncomment the line below to use the default authorization file. authz-db = ../../foo/bar/authz OK, so only the repositories have the sub-directories db, conf, dav, format, hooks and locks. If this is true, this installation looks like only one repository but I really have 506 repositories. I have repositories under repositories. That's not good. But are you sure about that. Where are you seeing 506 repositories? Perhaps you just have 506 projects in a single repository. BOb
Re: Subversion Permissions Question.
On Feb 11, 3:21 pm, Bob Archer bob.arc...@amsi.com wrote: On Feb 11, 3:21 am, Thorsten Schöning tschoen...@am-soft.de wrote: Guten Tag MonicaS, am Donnerstag, 10. Februar 2011 um 17:33 schrieben Sie: We are using an old version that we are going to upgrade as soon as we are confident that we understand the current configuration and setup. It should be possible to upgrade to a newer version even without understanding, because unless you dump and load your repositories, the old format and configuration is kept and should just work. You would just loose benefits of newer FSFS-versions or stuff like that, but can dump and load whenever you like. It is good to know that. I'm going to try to do it as soon as the team is ready. The authz file contains the following three lines. If I understood correctly, svnadmin will have rw permissions to the whole repository and the rest of the users will have read-only access. But all users are able to 'checkout' and 'submit' files. So what are these permissions really doing? [/] svnadmin = rw * = r Which users are in the group svadmin? If all, then all should be able to commit etc. only one user belong to the svnadmin group. Did you verify that subversion is actually configured to use the authz file? Just because it exists doesn't mean it is being used. Well, I checked all the svnserve.conf files, sometimes the line with the authz file was commented and sometimes it was not. The problem is that I have a lot of snvserve.conf files; I checked each of then, some have more permissions for users or groups. The one with svnadmin only was what I did think was the repository but inside of it I found at least 3 more repositories and on them I found the svnserve.conf using the authz file, and the authz file open the permissions for users. I see the files svnserve.conf and authz on different subdirectories. Shouldn't these files be only in the main or initial folders of the repository? Per default those files should be in the conf-directory of the repository, but the location of authz can be configured in svnserve.conf. ### Uncomment the line below to use the default authorization file. authz-db = authz vs. ### Uncomment the line below to use the default authorization file. authz-db = ../../foo/bar/authz OK, so only the repositories have the sub-directories db, conf, dav, format, hooks and locks. If this is true, this installation looks like only one repository but I really have 506 repositories. I have repositories under repositories. That's not good. But are you sure about that. Where are you seeing 506 repositories? Perhaps you just have 506 projects in a single repository. Well, I looked for all the folder with the subfolders conf, db,dav,format, hooks and locks and I found 506. Some of them are empty, for example I have the following: Eng-Tech/conf /dav /db /format /hooks /locks /README.txt ABC-SDKs/conf /dav /db /format /hooks /locks /README.txt J-SDKs/conf /dav /db /format /hooks /locks /README.txt If I'm understating correctly, the above directory structure have 3 repositories, one called Eng-Tech, another called ABC-SDKs and another called J-SDKs. If I check with tortoiseSVN or with SVN list to Eng-Tech I get the following: ABC-SDKs J-SDKs If I check with tortoiseSVN or with SVN list to ABC-SDK I get the following: A-SDKs B-SDKs C-SDKs This means that A thru C SDKs folder belong to the repository ABC-SDKs and J-SDKs belongs to the J-SDKs repository; and Eng-Tech is empty. This is why I'm or was confused. I wanted to understand why we have so many repositories. I noticed that some of the repositories are hard links to other file-systems. Maybe this was done because of the disk space... I don't know. Please let me know if my understanding is not correct. Thank you. Monica BOb
Subversion Permissions Question.
Hello, A Subversion server with a big repository was inherited to me recently and I'm trying to figure out its configuration. We are using an old version that we are going to upgrade as soon as we are confident that we understand the current configuration and setup. We have subversion 1.4.3 (r23084) installed on a SunOS. The server configuration is svnserve over SSH. I have experience administering other source control tools, like Perforce, ClearCase, MKS, PVCS, etc. on Unix and Windows. I read the the book 'Version Control with Subversion' and I still have some questions. The authz file contains the following three lines. If I understood correctly, svnadmin will have rw permissions to the whole repository and the rest of the users will have read-only access. But all users are able to 'checkout' and 'submit' files. So what are these permissions really doing? [/] svnadmin = rw * = r I see the files svnserve.conf and authz on different subdirectories. Shouldn't these files be only in the main or initial folders of the repository? Other questions that I have are: - How can I get a full repository layout? - How can I get the repository history since the revision 0 to the newest? - How can I get the list of revisions or commits for the whole repository? I'm doing using 'svn log' but I only get the current folder not recursive to the whole repo. Also, I don't think I understand when a repository is a repository and when it is a directory under that repository. I checked some of the folders under the repository directory structure and I found that i can follow the directory structure up to certain point and then I cannot. For example: svn+ssh://user@server/Repo_name/main_folder1 /main_folder1/ subfolder1 /main_folder1/ subfolder1/trunk /main_folder1/ subfolder1/branches /main_folder1/ subfolder1/tags /main_folder2/ subfolder1 /main_folder2/ subfolder1/trunk /main_folder2/ subfolder1/branches /main_folder2/ subfolder1/tags I cannot follow using a normal cd command the directory level of 'trunk', 'branches' and 'tags' in the repository directory. I only have the folders conf, dav, db,format, hooks, locks, README.txt but not 'branches', 'tags' and 'trunk'. So, are main_folder1 and main_folder2 two different repositories or only one under Repo_name? Where I can find information about the database FSFS layout, schema and design? I'm sorry if this are silly questions, please let me know of any book or other information that will help me understand better the subversion whole system. Thank you. Monica Sanchez
