RE: Deep linking to tapestry pages from jps. Conversion

2008-10-27 Thread Russell Brown
Hi Borut,
We are migrating a Struts app at the moment so if you have any specific 
questions about stuff then fire away as we _may_ have solved one or two 
problems that you might face already. 

Such a guide would be a good idea: it is ideal to start a nice new app with a 
nice new framework but in the real world most people are working on legacy 
applications and migration is the normal use case. If T5 wants any real 
penetration then thinking about migrating users from Struts to T5 is a must. 
Although it is essentially a marketing problem and most developers struggle 
with marketing.

Cheers

Russell

-Original Message-
From: Borut Bolčina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 24 October 2008 21:04
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: Deep linking to tapestry pages from jps. Conversion

Hi,

it would be great if there was also a JSP transition guide. We have a large
JSP application at the moment and my intention is to replace it gradually
with Tapestry 5. Any advice on how to do it *the right way* would be more
than welcome!

Regards,
Borut

2008/10/24 Howard Lewis Ship [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 For deep linking purposes, could you pass the information as normal
 query parameters?

 You could then @Inject the Request object to retrieve those values.
 You can also use the ContextValueEncoder service to decode them to
 appropriate types.
 This work would be done in the page's activate event handler method.

 This is a more servlet-style of development, which may be the right
 approach for a transitional application.

 On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Ian Petzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
  We are busy converting our Struts/Tiles based application to Tapestry.
 Until
  this is complete I have am required to generate links to the new Tapestry
  pages correctly from the jsp pages.
 
  Normally this isn't a problem as I used the url pattern of:
  HOST/PAGE/PARAM1/PARAM2/PARAM3
 
  Now, please consider the situation where my params have following values:
 
  PARAM1 = Hello
  PARAM2 = relative/url
  PARAM3 = colon:seperated
 
  So if I follow my previous url pattern i would get
 
  HOST/PAGE/Hello/relative/url/colon:seperated
 
  This of course doesn't work as that url is interpreted as having four
  params: [Hello, relative, url, colon:seperated] instead of the three that
 I
  define.
 
  When I use a pageLink object on Tapestry pages this isn't a problem as
  param2 is double url encoded, so that relative/url -- relative%252Furl
 
  However the colon in param3 isn't double url encoded.
 
  I would really appreciate it if someone could indicate the rules which
 are
  used when forming these urls or if someone could suggest an approach to
  generate these urls. Possibly a reverse @Inject of the relevant Tapestry
  object into my Spring service where I could call a method to convert the
  context values.
 
  Thanks,
  Ian
 



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Re: Deep linking to tapestry pages from jps. Conversion

2008-10-27 Thread Ian Petzer
Hi Howard,

Unfortantely this approach of encoding the information is request params is
not really ideal.

As Russel has said, we are halfway through converting our application. We
have created Tapestry pages to supply some new functionality (various RSS
feeds in this case) however we need to link to this functionality from
existing jsp pages which haven't been converted yet and new tapestry pages.
The new tapestry pages are a doddle as we can simply use a pageLink and pass
through the relative url as a param in the context for the actionLink.

What I'm really looking for is guidance on hwo to create a Link to mimic
what is created by the pageLink component. Even if you could just point me
at the right class which encodes the param values and introduces the special
behaviour for slashes in param values being double encoded.

Thanks for your help,
Ian

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Russell Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Hi Borut,
 We are migrating a Struts app at the moment so if you have any specific
 questions about stuff then fire away as we _may_ have solved one or two
 problems that you might face already.

 Such a guide would be a good idea: it is ideal to start a nice new app with
 a nice new framework but in the real world most people are working on legacy
 applications and migration is the normal use case. If T5 wants any real
 penetration then thinking about migrating users from Struts to T5 is a must.
 Although it is essentially a marketing problem and most developers
 struggle with marketing.

 Cheers

 Russell

 -Original Message-
 From: Borut Bolčina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 24 October 2008 21:04
 To: Tapestry users
 Subject: Re: Deep linking to tapestry pages from jps. Conversion

 Hi,

 it would be great if there was also a JSP transition guide. We have a large
 JSP application at the moment and my intention is to replace it gradually
 with Tapestry 5. Any advice on how to do it *the right way* would be more
 than welcome!

 Regards,
 Borut

 2008/10/24 Howard Lewis Ship [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  For deep linking purposes, could you pass the information as normal
  query parameters?
 
  You could then @Inject the Request object to retrieve those values.
  You can also use the ContextValueEncoder service to decode them to
  appropriate types.
  This work would be done in the page's activate event handler method.
 
  This is a more servlet-style of development, which may be the right
  approach for a transitional application.
 
  On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Ian Petzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi,
  
   We are busy converting our Struts/Tiles based application to Tapestry.
  Until
   this is complete I have am required to generate links to the new
 Tapestry
   pages correctly from the jsp pages.
  
   Normally this isn't a problem as I used the url pattern of:
   HOST/PAGE/PARAM1/PARAM2/PARAM3
  
   Now, please consider the situation where my params have following
 values:
  
   PARAM1 = Hello
   PARAM2 = relative/url
   PARAM3 = colon:seperated
  
   So if I follow my previous url pattern i would get
  
   HOST/PAGE/Hello/relative/url/colon:seperated
  
   This of course doesn't work as that url is interpreted as having four
   params: [Hello, relative, url, colon:seperated] instead of the three
 that
  I
   define.
  
   When I use a pageLink object on Tapestry pages this isn't a problem as
   param2 is double url encoded, so that relative/url -- relative%252Furl
  
   However the colon in param3 isn't double url encoded.
  
   I would really appreciate it if someone could indicate the rules which
  are
   used when forming these urls or if someone could suggest an approach to
   generate these urls. Possibly a reverse @Inject of the relevant
 Tapestry
   object into my Spring service where I could call a method to convert
 the
   context values.
  
   Thanks,
   Ian
  
 
 
 
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Re: Deep linking to tapestry pages from jps. Conversion

2008-10-24 Thread Howard Lewis Ship
For deep linking purposes, could you pass the information as normal
query parameters?

You could then @Inject the Request object to retrieve those values.
You can also use the ContextValueEncoder service to decode them to
appropriate types.
This work would be done in the page's activate event handler method.

This is a more servlet-style of development, which may be the right
approach for a transitional application.

On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Ian Petzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 We are busy converting our Struts/Tiles based application to Tapestry. Until
 this is complete I have am required to generate links to the new Tapestry
 pages correctly from the jsp pages.

 Normally this isn't a problem as I used the url pattern of:
 HOST/PAGE/PARAM1/PARAM2/PARAM3

 Now, please consider the situation where my params have following values:

 PARAM1 = Hello
 PARAM2 = relative/url
 PARAM3 = colon:seperated

 So if I follow my previous url pattern i would get

 HOST/PAGE/Hello/relative/url/colon:seperated

 This of course doesn't work as that url is interpreted as having four
 params: [Hello, relative, url, colon:seperated] instead of the three that I
 define.

 When I use a pageLink object on Tapestry pages this isn't a problem as
 param2 is double url encoded, so that relative/url -- relative%252Furl

 However the colon in param3 isn't double url encoded.

 I would really appreciate it if someone could indicate the rules which are
 used when forming these urls or if someone could suggest an approach to
 generate these urls. Possibly a reverse @Inject of the relevant Tapestry
 object into my Spring service where I could call a method to convert the
 context values.

 Thanks,
 Ian




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Re: Deep linking to tapestry pages from jps. Conversion

2008-10-24 Thread Borut Bolčina
Hi,

it would be great if there was also a JSP transition guide. We have a large
JSP application at the moment and my intention is to replace it gradually
with Tapestry 5. Any advice on how to do it *the right way* would be more
than welcome!

Regards,
Borut

2008/10/24 Howard Lewis Ship [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 For deep linking purposes, could you pass the information as normal
 query parameters?

 You could then @Inject the Request object to retrieve those values.
 You can also use the ContextValueEncoder service to decode them to
 appropriate types.
 This work would be done in the page's activate event handler method.

 This is a more servlet-style of development, which may be the right
 approach for a transitional application.

 On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Ian Petzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
  We are busy converting our Struts/Tiles based application to Tapestry.
 Until
  this is complete I have am required to generate links to the new Tapestry
  pages correctly from the jsp pages.
 
  Normally this isn't a problem as I used the url pattern of:
  HOST/PAGE/PARAM1/PARAM2/PARAM3
 
  Now, please consider the situation where my params have following values:
 
  PARAM1 = Hello
  PARAM2 = relative/url
  PARAM3 = colon:seperated
 
  So if I follow my previous url pattern i would get
 
  HOST/PAGE/Hello/relative/url/colon:seperated
 
  This of course doesn't work as that url is interpreted as having four
  params: [Hello, relative, url, colon:seperated] instead of the three that
 I
  define.
 
  When I use a pageLink object on Tapestry pages this isn't a problem as
  param2 is double url encoded, so that relative/url -- relative%252Furl
 
  However the colon in param3 isn't double url encoded.
 
  I would really appreciate it if someone could indicate the rules which
 are
  used when forming these urls or if someone could suggest an approach to
  generate these urls. Possibly a reverse @Inject of the relevant Tapestry
  object into my Spring service where I could call a method to convert the
  context values.
 
  Thanks,
  Ian
 



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