RE: Is Tapernate production ready ?

2006-05-24 Thread James Carman
It depends.  If you want to use transaction-per-request with
open-session-in-view, then it could work for you now.  If you need
conversation support (something we're working to build in), then it's not
ready for you just yet.  Tapernate can automagically reattach your
persistent page properties (that are Hibernate entities) to the current
session quite easily.  And, the POJO rollback feature will save you some
headaches if you use the TransactionUtils.setRollbackOnly method, which will
be moving to another module (the one that defines all the transaction stuff
in the first place, spring.transaction), since it's really not related to
tapestry at all.

-Original Message-
From: Hugo Palma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 9:48 AM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Is Tapernate production ready ?

I know it's a WIP, still, how confident can i be when choosing to use
Tapernate in a project starting in a few weeks ?
Is there any estimate to when the project will be rock solid, with the
production ready stamp ?

I mainly looking for Jame's opinion and from everyone that has used
Tapernate in a medium/big size project.


Thanks in advance,

Hugo



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RE: Is Tapernate production ready ?

2006-05-24 Thread James Carman
Oh, and I'd wait on using the squeezer feature until Tapestry 4.1 comes
out.  Tap4.1 will turn the data squeezer into a pipeline rather than just a
regular service.  I have a patch in Jira for this.  I just need to add some
test cases to it.  I guess I could build the logic into Tapernate which
replaces the implementation of the squeezer service so that it's compatible
with 4.0.  But, I think I'd rather wait and say that it only works on 4.1+.



-Original Message-
From: James Carman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 10:02 AM
To: 'Tapestry users'
Subject: RE: Is Tapernate production ready ?

It depends.  If you want to use transaction-per-request with
open-session-in-view, then it could work for you now.  If you need
conversation support (something we're working to build in), then it's not
ready for you just yet.  Tapernate can automagically reattach your
persistent page properties (that are Hibernate entities) to the current
session quite easily.  And, the POJO rollback feature will save you some
headaches if you use the TransactionUtils.setRollbackOnly method, which will
be moving to another module (the one that defines all the transaction stuff
in the first place, spring.transaction), since it's really not related to
tapestry at all.

-Original Message-
From: Hugo Palma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 9:48 AM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Is Tapernate production ready ?

I know it's a WIP, still, how confident can i be when choosing to use
Tapernate in a project starting in a few weeks ?
Is there any estimate to when the project will be rock solid, with the
production ready stamp ?

I mainly looking for Jame's opinion and from everyone that has used
Tapernate in a medium/big size project.


Thanks in advance,

Hugo



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RE: Is Tapernate production ready ?

2006-05-24 Thread Schulte Marcus
I've not used it, but I had a look at the code-base. It's so concise and
easy-to-change that you'll certainly be better off starting with it than
starting with something self-made from scratch. That's the real benefit
of open-source, after all (imo).

 -Original Message-
 From: Hugo Palma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:48 PM
 To: Tapestry users
 Subject: Is Tapernate production ready ?
 
 
 I know it's a WIP, still, how confident can i be when choosing to use
 Tapernate in a project starting in a few weeks ?
 Is there any estimate to when the project will be rock solid, with the
 production ready stamp ?
 
 I mainly looking for Jame's opinion and from everyone that has used
 Tapernate in a medium/big size project.
 
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Hugo
 

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Re: Is Tapernate production ready ?

2006-05-24 Thread Hugo Palma

Thanks for the overview
You got me convinced Tapernate is the way to go :o)

On 5/24/06, James Carman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Oh, and I'd wait on using the squeezer feature until Tapestry 4.1 comes
out.  Tap4.1 will turn the data squeezer into a pipeline rather than just
a
regular service.  I have a patch in Jira for this.  I just need to add
some
test cases to it.  I guess I could build the logic into Tapernate which
replaces the implementation of the squeezer service so that it's
compatible
with 4.0.  But, I think I'd rather wait and say that it only works on 4.1+
.



-Original Message-
From: James Carman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 10:02 AM
To: 'Tapestry users'
Subject: RE: Is Tapernate production ready ?

It depends.  If you want to use transaction-per-request with
open-session-in-view, then it could work for you now.  If you need
conversation support (something we're working to build in), then it's not
ready for you just yet.  Tapernate can automagically reattach your
persistent page properties (that are Hibernate entities) to the current
session quite easily.  And, the POJO rollback feature will save you some
headaches if you use the TransactionUtils.setRollbackOnly method, which
will
be moving to another module (the one that defines all the transaction
stuff
in the first place, spring.transaction), since it's really not related to
tapestry at all.

-Original Message-
From: Hugo Palma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 9:48 AM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Is Tapernate production ready ?

I know it's a WIP, still, how confident can i be when choosing to use
Tapernate in a project starting in a few weeks ?
Is there any estimate to when the project will be rock solid, with the
production ready stamp ?

I mainly looking for Jame's opinion and from everyone that has used
Tapernate in a medium/big size project.


Thanks in advance,

Hugo



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Re: Is Tapernate production ready ?

2006-05-24 Thread Hugo Palma

I agree, still, the intention of my post was to get a clearer picture of how
complete Tapernate really was so that i can predict if i'll have to spend
some time extending it, or finding bugs, which in some project it's time i
don't have.

On 5/24/06, Schulte Marcus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I've not used it, but I had a look at the code-base. It's so concise and
easy-to-change that you'll certainly be better off starting with it than
starting with something self-made from scratch. That's the real benefit
of open-source, after all (imo).

 -Original Message-
 From: Hugo Palma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:48 PM
 To: Tapestry users
 Subject: Is Tapernate production ready ?


 I know it's a WIP, still, how confident can i be when choosing to use
 Tapernate in a project starting in a few weeks ?
 Is there any estimate to when the project will be rock solid, with the
 production ready stamp ?

 I mainly looking for Jame's opinion and from everyone that has used
 Tapernate in a medium/big size project.


 Thanks in advance,

 Hugo


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Re: Is Tapernate production ready ?

2006-05-24 Thread Chris Chiappone

I have just moved my application into production using tapernate.  So far so
good nothing unexpected.

On 5/24/06, Hugo Palma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I agree, still, the intention of my post was to get a clearer picture of
how
complete Tapernate really was so that i can predict if i'll have to spend
some time extending it, or finding bugs, which in some project it's time i
don't have.

On 5/24/06, Schulte Marcus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've not used it, but I had a look at the code-base. It's so concise and
 easy-to-change that you'll certainly be better off starting with it than
 starting with something self-made from scratch. That's the real benefit
 of open-source, after all (imo).

  -Original Message-
  From: Hugo Palma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:48 PM
  To: Tapestry users
  Subject: Is Tapernate production ready ?
 
 
  I know it's a WIP, still, how confident can i be when choosing to use
  Tapernate in a project starting in a few weeks ?
  Is there any estimate to when the project will be rock solid, with the
  production ready stamp ?
 
  I mainly looking for Jame's opinion and from everyone that has used
  Tapernate in a medium/big size project.
 
 
  Thanks in advance,
 
  Hugo
 

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