Re: [T5] How to get ampersand () rendered raw / not encoded as amp;?

2008-03-18 Thread Chris Lewis
Martin,

I'm guessing your mail client converted Josh's message because it
rendered the  in the url as amp; - just as you have explained and
shown. As he said, url's with amp; in place of  are actually correct
and should not cause problems (I personally have never seen these urls
cause any).

chris

Martin Grotzke wrote:
 On Mon, 2008-03-17 at 15:24 -0700, Josh Canfield wrote:
   
 If I am understanding you correctly, you are getting something like
 this in your source:

 iframe src=http://host/page?arg1=val1arg2=val2;/iframe
 
 Nope, unfortunately I get src=http://host/page?arg1=val1amp;arg2=val2;
 so the  is rendered as amp;

 Cheers,
 Martin


   
 That is actually the correct behavior and it shouldn't be causing a
 problem in your browser. Are you seeing a problem?

 http://htmlhelp.com/tools/validator/problems.html#amp

 Josh


 On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Martin Grotzke
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi,

 I have a an html element (iframe) that get's a property of my page class
 (the current query string) appended to its src attribute.

 The query string may contain the  char, which always gets expanded as
 amp;. Is there any possibility to prevent T5 from encoding this char?

 Thanx  cheers,
 Martin



   

 


Re: [T5] How to get ampersand () rendered raw / not encoded as amp;?

2008-03-18 Thread Martin Grotzke
Hi,

On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 14:19 +0100, Chris Lewis wrote:
 Martin,
 
 I'm guessing your mail client converted Josh's message because it
 rendered the  in the url as amp; - just as you have explained and
 shown.
Ok, thanx :)

  As he said, url's with amp; in place of  are actually correct
 and should not cause problems (I personally have never seen these urls
 cause any).
I would say that a request parameter appended with amp;param=value
would be seen by the server as amp;param instead of just param.

Cheers,
Martin

 
 chris
 
 Martin Grotzke wrote:
  On Mon, 2008-03-17 at 15:24 -0700, Josh Canfield wrote:

  If I am understanding you correctly, you are getting something like
  this in your source:
 
  iframe src=http://host/page?arg1=val1arg2=val2;/iframe
  
  Nope, unfortunately I get src=http://host/page?arg1=val1arg2=val2;
  so the  is rendered as amp;
 
  Cheers,
  Martin
 
 

  That is actually the correct behavior and it shouldn't be causing a
  problem in your browser. Are you seeing a problem?
 
  http://htmlhelp.com/tools/validator/problems.html#amp
 
  Josh
 
 
  On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Martin Grotzke
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Hi,
 
  I have a an html element (iframe) that get's a property of my page class
  (the current query string) appended to its src attribute.
 
  The query string may contain the  char, which always gets expanded as
  amp;. Is there any possibility to prevent T5 from encoding this char?
 
  Thanx  cheers,
  Martin
 
 
 

 
  


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Re: [T5] How to get ampersand () rendered raw / not encoded as amp;?

2008-03-18 Thread Filip S. Adamsen

Hi,

On 2008-03-18 15:41, Martin Grotzke wrote:

Hi,

On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 14:19 +0100, Chris Lewis wrote:

Martin,

I'm guessing your mail client converted Josh's message because it
rendered the  in the url as amp; - just as you have explained and
shown.

Ok, thanx :)


 As he said, url's with amp; in place of  are actually correct
and should not cause problems (I personally have never seen these urls
cause any).

I would say that a request parameter appended with amp;param=value
would be seen by the server as amp;param instead of just param.


W3C says otherwise: With HTML, the browser translates amp; to  so 
the Web server would only see  and not amp; in the query string of 
the request.


http://htmlhelp.com/tools/validator/problems.html#amp

It's not a problem. I see the exact same behaviour and it's working just 
fine. :)


-Filip



Cheers,
Martin


chris

Martin Grotzke wrote:

On Mon, 2008-03-17 at 15:24 -0700, Josh Canfield wrote:
  

If I am understanding you correctly, you are getting something like
this in your source:

iframe src=http://host/page?arg1=val1arg2=val2;/iframe


Nope, unfortunately I get src=http://host/page?arg1=val1arg2=val2;
so the  is rendered as amp;

Cheers,
Martin


  

That is actually the correct behavior and it shouldn't be causing a
problem in your browser. Are you seeing a problem?

http://htmlhelp.com/tools/validator/problems.html#amp

Josh


On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Martin Grotzke
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi,

I have a an html element (iframe) that get's a property of my page class
(the current query string) appended to its src attribute.

The query string may contain the  char, which always gets expanded as
amp;. Is there any possibility to prevent T5 from encoding this char?

Thanx  cheers,
Martin



  



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Re: [T5] How to get ampersand () rendered raw / not encoded as amp;?

2008-03-18 Thread Josh Canfield
Hi Martin,

I'm confused by your statement:
 I would say that a request parameter appended with amp;param=value
 would be seen by the server as amp;param instead of just param.

Does this mean that you are seeing a problem on the server side? What
you are describing is not what I would expect, if you are seeing this
then there might be something else going on.

Josh

On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Martin Grotzke
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 14:19 +0100, Chris Lewis wrote:
  Martin,
 
  I'm guessing your mail client converted Josh's message because it
  rendered the  in the url as amp; - just as you have explained and
  shown.
 Ok, thanx :)

   As he said, url's with amp; in place of  are actually correct
  and should not cause problems (I personally have never seen these urls
  cause any).
 I would say that a request parameter appended with amp;param=value
 would be seen by the server as amp;param instead of just param.

 Cheers,
 Martin

 
  chris
 
  Martin Grotzke wrote:
   On Mon, 2008-03-17 at 15:24 -0700, Josh Canfield wrote:
  
   If I am understanding you correctly, you are getting something like
   this in your source:
  
   iframe src=http://host/page?arg1=val1arg2=val2;/iframe
  
   Nope, unfortunately I get src=http://host/page?arg1=val1arg2=val2;

   so the  is rendered as amp;
  
   Cheers,
   Martin
  
  
  
   That is actually the correct behavior and it shouldn't be causing a
   problem in your browser. Are you seeing a problem?
  
   http://htmlhelp.com/tools/validator/problems.html#amp
  
   Josh
  
  
   On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Martin Grotzke
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Hi,
  
   I have a an html element (iframe) that get's a property of my page class
   (the current query string) appended to its src attribute.
  
   The query string may contain the  char, which always gets expanded as
   amp;. Is there any possibility to prevent T5 from encoding this char?
  
   Thanx  cheers,
   Martin
  
  
  
  
  
  




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Re: [T5] How to get ampersand () rendered raw / not encoded as amp;?

2008-03-18 Thread Martin Grotzke
Hi,

On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 17:51 +0100, Filip S. Adamsen wrote:
  I would say that a request parameter appended with amp;param=value
  would be seen by the server as amp;param instead of just param.
 
 W3C says otherwise: With HTML, the browser translates amp; to  so 
 the Web server would only see  and not amp; in the query string of 
 the request.
 
 http://htmlhelp.com/tools/validator/problems.html#amp
 
 It's not a problem. I see the exact same behaviour and it's working just 
 fine. :)
You're right! It was indeed only an asumption that it would not work, I
wasn't aware that browsers not only translate entities for what is going
to the user but also for such things - what is requested elsewhere...

New day - a new thing learned, great :)

Thanx  cheers,
Martin


On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 17:51 +0100, Filip S. Adamsen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On 2008-03-18 15:41, Martin Grotzke wrote:
  Hi,
  
  On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 14:19 +0100, Chris Lewis wrote:
  Martin,
 
  I'm guessing your mail client converted Josh's message because it
  rendered the  in the url as amp; - just as you have explained and
  shown.
  Ok, thanx :)
  
   As he said, url's with amp; in place of  are actually correct
  and should not cause problems (I personally have never seen these urls
  cause any).
  I would say that a request parameter appended with amp;param=value
  would be seen by the server as amp;param instead of just param.
 
 W3C says otherwise: With HTML, the browser translates amp; to  so 
 the Web server would only see  and not amp; in the query string of 
 the request.
 
 http://htmlhelp.com/tools/validator/problems.html#amp
 
 It's not a problem. I see the exact same behaviour and it's working just 
 fine. :)
 
 -Filip
 
  
  Cheers,
  Martin
  
  chris
 
  Martin Grotzke wrote:
  On Mon, 2008-03-17 at 15:24 -0700, Josh Canfield wrote:

  If I am understanding you correctly, you are getting something like
  this in your source:
 
  iframe src=http://host/page?arg1=val1arg2=val2;/iframe
  
  Nope, unfortunately I get src=http://host/page?arg1=val1arg2=val2;
  so the  is rendered as amp;
 
  Cheers,
  Martin
 
 

  That is actually the correct behavior and it shouldn't be causing a
  problem in your browser. Are you seeing a problem?
 
  http://htmlhelp.com/tools/validator/problems.html#amp
 
  Josh
 
 
  On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Martin Grotzke
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Hi,
 
  I have a an html element (iframe) that get's a property of my page class
  (the current query string) appended to its src attribute.
 
  The query string may contain the  char, which always gets expanded as
  amp;. Is there any possibility to prevent T5 from encoding this char?
 
  Thanx  cheers,
  Martin
 
 
 

  
 
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Re: [T5] How to get ampersand () rendered raw / not encoded as amp;?

2008-03-18 Thread Martin Grotzke
Hi,

On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 10:06 -0700, Josh Canfield wrote:
 Hi Martin,
 
 I'm confused by your statement:
  I would say that a request parameter appended with amp;param=value
  would be seen by the server as amp;param instead of just param.
 
 Does this mean that you are seeing a problem on the server side? 
Nope, as I just wrote I simply asumed that - misleadingly ;)

Cheers,
Martin


 What
 you are describing is not what I would expect, if you are seeing this
 then there might be something else going on.
 
 Josh
 
 On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Martin Grotzke
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
  On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 14:19 +0100, Chris Lewis wrote:
   Martin,
  
   I'm guessing your mail client converted Josh's message because it
   rendered the  in the url as amp; - just as you have explained and
   shown.
  Ok, thanx :)
 
As he said, url's with amp; in place of  are actually correct
   and should not cause problems (I personally have never seen these urls
   cause any).
  I would say that a request parameter appended with amp;param=value
  would be seen by the server as amp;param instead of just param.
 
  Cheers,
  Martin
 
  
   chris
  
   Martin Grotzke wrote:
On Mon, 2008-03-17 at 15:24 -0700, Josh Canfield wrote:
   
If I am understanding you correctly, you are getting something like
this in your source:
   
iframe src=http://host/page?arg1=val1arg2=val2;/iframe
   
Nope, unfortunately I get src=http://host/page?arg1=val1arg2=val2;
 
so the  is rendered as amp;
   
Cheers,
Martin
   
   
   
That is actually the correct behavior and it shouldn't be causing a
problem in your browser. Are you seeing a problem?
   
http://htmlhelp.com/tools/validator/problems.html#amp
   
Josh
   
   
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Martin Grotzke
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
Hi,
   
I have a an html element (iframe) that get's a property of my page 
class
(the current query string) appended to its src attribute.
   
The query string may contain the  char, which always gets expanded 
as
amp;. Is there any possibility to prevent T5 from encoding this 
char?
   
Thanx  cheers,
Martin
   
   
   
   
   
   
 
 
 
 


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Re: [T5] How to get ampersand () rendered raw / not encoded as amp;?

2008-03-17 Thread Josh Canfield
If I am understanding you correctly, you are getting something like
this in your source:

iframe src=http://host/page?arg1=val1amp;arg2=val2;/iframe

That is actually the correct behavior and it shouldn't be causing a
problem in your browser. Are you seeing a problem?

http://htmlhelp.com/tools/validator/problems.html#amp

Josh


On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Martin Grotzke
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I have a an html element (iframe) that get's a property of my page class
 (the current query string) appended to its src attribute.

 The query string may contain the  char, which always gets expanded as
 amp;. Is there any possibility to prevent T5 from encoding this char?

 Thanx  cheers,
 Martin






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