Re: Tapestry is a sinking Ship
the tapestry committee will get the behavior it tolerates. unproductive behavior should not be tolerated any more than obnoxious behavior would be tolerated in your own home. tapestry group would be well advised to ban obnoxious behavior like this. Patrick Moore (256) 203-3775 Currently looking for the next software / software management opportunity View my LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patricksmoore On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 5:36 AM, JT wrote: > Dumb idea. How about background check? Are we applying for a CIA job? > On Feb 15, 2016 8:34 AM, "Ido Dovrat" wrote: > > > Thiago, I think it would be reasonable to put in place some kind of > > identity verification /screening process before admitting someone into > the > > group. For example, use the email address to look up the applicant on > > Facebook or LinkedIn, and apply some judgement as to whether he/she seems > > legit. You can also require that someone else (with verifiable identity) > > vouch for the candidate. > > > > Then you can ban trolls without the fear of having them return under > > various assumed identities. > > > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 2:33 PM, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo < > > thiag...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 10:17:59 -0200, JT wrote: > > > > > > Shitty idea. All voice should be heard. Not just the one you like to > > hear. > > >> > > > > > > If only this guy wrote anything which isn't trolling and outright lies, > > > all them repetitive. If he said that feature X doesn't work, that would > > be > > > valid. That feature Y doesn't work in the way it should, it would be > > valid. > > > But this troll just repeats the same lies and ad-hominen attacks over > and > > > over, disappears for some time, and reappears. > > > > > > On Feb 13, 2016 3:19 AM, "Ilya Obshadko" > > wrote: > > >> > > >> Thiago, I have an idea. > > >>> > > >>> Why don't we ban this poor excuse of an idiot from a mailing list and > > >>> address real problems latest release has? > > >>> > > >>> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo < > > >>> thiag...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 17:19:28 -0200, Emmanuel Sowah < > eso...@gmail.com > > > > > >>> > wrote: > > >>> > > > >>> > Hi Tapestry sect, > > >>> >> > > >>> > > > >>> > Hi, insistent, annoying, repetitive, low-quality troll! > > >>> > > > >>> > The state of Tapestry now is very bad, as Howard and all the other > > >>> >> commiters have abandoned it. > > >>> >> > > >>> > > > >>> > This is not true. Just check Jira and the Git logs. > > >>> > > > >>> > Even Thiago has secretly abandoned Tapestry. > > >>> >> > > >>> > > > >>> > I have not, and you're telling a lie. > > >>> > > > >>> > I'm just answering this troll because of the lies he keeps on > > >>> spreading, > > >>> > which are bordering on defamation. > > >>> > > > >>> > -- > > >>> > Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo > > >>> > Tapestry, Java and Hibernate consultant and developer > > >>> > http://machina.com.br > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > - > > >>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org > > >>> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> -- > > >>> Ilya Obshadko > > >>> > > >>> > > > > > > -- > > > Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo > > > Tapestry, Java and Hibernate consultant and developer > > > http://machina.com.br > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org > > > > > > > > >
Re: Tapestry is a sinking Ship
On Mon, 15 Feb 2016 12:09:23 -0200, Emmanuel Sowah wrote: Remember, this guy is working for free, as in beer. Didn't you tell everygody I had secretly left Apache? Now you're saying I'm working, present tense? Joe nailed it: "Your warnings are empty and you prove yourself a greater and greater fool with each post." Now let's do something more productive. :) -- Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo Tapestry, Java and Hibernate consultant and developer http://machina.com.br - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org
Re: Tapestry is a sinking Ship
On Mon, 15 Feb 2016 11:33:56 -0200, Ido Dovrat wrote: Thiago, I think it would be reasonable to put in place some kind of identity verification /screening process before admitting someone into the group. For example, use the email address to look up the applicant on Facebook or LinkedIn, and apply some judgement as to whether he/she seems legit. You can also require that someone else (with verifiable identity) vouch for the candidate. Hello, Ido! Thanks for your suggestion, but I disagree with it. In addition, it's most probably against the Apache Software Foundation policies. and rules, and we should follow them. -- Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo Tapestry, Java and Hibernate consultant and developer http://machina.com.br - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org
Re: Tapestry is a sinking Ship
Agree. On Feb 15, 2016 8:38 AM, "Stelios Philippou" wrote: > Do not agree to that. > > That will make it harder for new users to ask for help. > Tapestry unfortunately is not very popular, so not a lot of places to ask > for questions. > > Just ignore him, and can we please stop replying to this thread ! > > > > > > On Mon, 15 Feb 2016 at 15:34 Ido Dovrat wrote: > > > Thiago, I think it would be reasonable to put in place some kind of > > identity verification /screening process before admitting someone into > the > > group. For example, use the email address to look up the applicant on > > Facebook or LinkedIn, and apply some judgement as to whether he/she seems > > legit. You can also require that someone else (with verifiable identity) > > vouch for the candidate. > > > > Then you can ban trolls without the fear of having them return under > > various assumed identities. > > > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 2:33 PM, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo < > > thiag...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 10:17:59 -0200, JT wrote: > > > > > > Shitty idea. All voice should be heard. Not just the one you like to > > hear. > > >> > > > > > > If only this guy wrote anything which isn't trolling and outright lies, > > > all them repetitive. If he said that feature X doesn't work, that would > > be > > > valid. That feature Y doesn't work in the way it should, it would be > > valid. > > > But this troll just repeats the same lies and ad-hominen attacks over > and > > > over, disappears for some time, and reappears. > > > > > > On Feb 13, 2016 3:19 AM, "Ilya Obshadko" > > wrote: > > >> > > >> Thiago, I have an idea. > > >>> > > >>> Why don't we ban this poor excuse of an idiot from a mailing list and > > >>> address real problems latest release has? > > >>> > > >>> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo < > > >>> thiag...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 17:19:28 -0200, Emmanuel Sowah < > eso...@gmail.com > > > > > >>> > wrote: > > >>> > > > >>> > Hi Tapestry sect, > > >>> >> > > >>> > > > >>> > Hi, insistent, annoying, repetitive, low-quality troll! > > >>> > > > >>> > The state of Tapestry now is very bad, as Howard and all the other > > >>> >> commiters have abandoned it. > > >>> >> > > >>> > > > >>> > This is not true. Just check Jira and the Git logs. > > >>> > > > >>> > Even Thiago has secretly abandoned Tapestry. > > >>> >> > > >>> > > > >>> > I have not, and you're telling a lie. > > >>> > > > >>> > I'm just answering this troll because of the lies he keeps on > > >>> spreading, > > >>> > which are bordering on defamation. > > >>> > > > >>> > -- > > >>> > Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo > > >>> > Tapestry, Java and Hibernate consultant and developer > > >>> > http://machina.com.br > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > - > > >>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org > > >>> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> -- > > >>> Ilya Obshadko > > >>> > > >>> > > > > > > -- > > > Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo > > > Tapestry, Java and Hibernate consultant and developer > > > http://machina.com.br > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org > > > > > > > > >
Re: Tapestry is a sinking Ship
Emmanuel, I can think of stupider things. For instance, you wasting your time and effort in this thread. Thiago may be working for free, but you see, people actually appreciate his work. Few people here, if anyone, appreciate you or what you have to say. Your warnings are empty and you prove yourself a greater and greater fool with each post. In fact, despite your efforts it seems that your ill-informed ideas has only made the community stronger. Well done! I still want to know: if i keep developing with tapestry, what you are gonna do about it? Send more messages? bwahahahahahaha! On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 9:09 AM, Emmanuel Sowah wrote: > Ido, > > That is the stupidest thing you can think of. You make it sound like > Tapestry is a prestigious framework worth all those extra effort from > Thiago. Remember, this guy is working for free, as in beer. If you want > that layer of verification, why don't you take the baton and do it > yourself? But then you should also ask yourself if it is worth all the > effort for a framework this is currently in coma and would die very, very > soon. > > > On 15 Feb 2016, at 14:33, Ido Dovrat wrote: > > > > Thiago, I think it would be reasonable to put in place some kind of > > identity verification /screening process before admitting someone into > the > > group. For example, use the email address to look up the applicant on > > Facebook or LinkedIn, and apply some judgement as to whether he/she seems > > legit. You can also require that someone else (with verifiable identity) > > vouch for the candidate. > > > > Then you can ban trolls without the fear of having them return under > > various assumed identities. > > > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 2:33 PM, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo < > > thiag...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 10:17:59 -0200, JT wrote: > >> > >> Shitty idea. All voice should be heard. Not just the one you like to > hear. > >> > >> If only this guy wrote anything which isn't trolling and outright lies, > >> all them repetitive. If he said that feature X doesn't work, that would > be > >> valid. That feature Y doesn't work in the way it should, it would be > valid. > >> But this troll just repeats the same lies and ad-hominen attacks over > and > >> over, disappears for some time, and reappears. > >> > >>> On Feb 13, 2016 3:19 AM, "Ilya Obshadko" > wrote: > >>> > >>> Thiago, I have an idea. > > Why don't we ban this poor excuse of an idiot from a mailing list and > address real problems latest release has? > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo < > thiag...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 17:19:28 -0200, Emmanuel Sowah > > > wrote: > > > > Hi Tapestry sect, > > > > Hi, insistent, annoying, repetitive, low-quality troll! > > > > The state of Tapestry now is very bad, as Howard and all the other > >> commiters have abandoned it. > > > > This is not true. Just check Jira and the Git logs. > > > > Even Thiago has secretly abandoned Tapestry. > > > > I have not, and you're telling a lie. > > > > I'm just answering this troll because of the lies he keeps on > spreading, > > which are bordering on defamation. > > > > -- > > Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo > > Tapestry, Java and Hibernate consultant and developer > > http://machina.com.br > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org > > > -- > Ilya Obshadko > >> > >> -- > >> Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo > >> Tapestry, Java and Hibernate consultant and developer > >> http://machina.com.br > >> > >> - > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org > >> > >> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org > >
Re: Tapestry is a sinking Ship
Ido, That is the stupidest thing you can think of. You make it sound like Tapestry is a prestigious framework worth all those extra effort from Thiago. Remember, this guy is working for free, as in beer. If you want that layer of verification, why don't you take the baton and do it yourself? But then you should also ask yourself if it is worth all the effort for a framework this is currently in coma and would die very, very soon. > On 15 Feb 2016, at 14:33, Ido Dovrat wrote: > > Thiago, I think it would be reasonable to put in place some kind of > identity verification /screening process before admitting someone into the > group. For example, use the email address to look up the applicant on > Facebook or LinkedIn, and apply some judgement as to whether he/she seems > legit. You can also require that someone else (with verifiable identity) > vouch for the candidate. > > Then you can ban trolls without the fear of having them return under > various assumed identities. > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 2:33 PM, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo < > thiag...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 10:17:59 -0200, JT wrote: >> >> Shitty idea. All voice should be heard. Not just the one you like to hear. >> >> If only this guy wrote anything which isn't trolling and outright lies, >> all them repetitive. If he said that feature X doesn't work, that would be >> valid. That feature Y doesn't work in the way it should, it would be valid. >> But this troll just repeats the same lies and ad-hominen attacks over and >> over, disappears for some time, and reappears. >> >>> On Feb 13, 2016 3:19 AM, "Ilya Obshadko" wrote: >>> >>> Thiago, I have an idea. Why don't we ban this poor excuse of an idiot from a mailing list and address real problems latest release has? On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo < thiag...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 17:19:28 -0200, Emmanuel Sowah > wrote: > > Hi Tapestry sect, > > Hi, insistent, annoying, repetitive, low-quality troll! > > The state of Tapestry now is very bad, as Howard and all the other >> commiters have abandoned it. > > This is not true. Just check Jira and the Git logs. > > Even Thiago has secretly abandoned Tapestry. > > I have not, and you're telling a lie. > > I'm just answering this troll because of the lies he keeps on spreading, > which are bordering on defamation. > > -- > Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo > Tapestry, Java and Hibernate consultant and developer > http://machina.com.br > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org -- Ilya Obshadko >> >> -- >> Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo >> Tapestry, Java and Hibernate consultant and developer >> http://machina.com.br >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org >> >> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org
Re: Tapestry is a sinking Ship
Do not agree to that. That will make it harder for new users to ask for help. Tapestry unfortunately is not very popular, so not a lot of places to ask for questions. Just ignore him, and can we please stop replying to this thread ! On Mon, 15 Feb 2016 at 15:34 Ido Dovrat wrote: > Thiago, I think it would be reasonable to put in place some kind of > identity verification /screening process before admitting someone into the > group. For example, use the email address to look up the applicant on > Facebook or LinkedIn, and apply some judgement as to whether he/she seems > legit. You can also require that someone else (with verifiable identity) > vouch for the candidate. > > Then you can ban trolls without the fear of having them return under > various assumed identities. > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 2:33 PM, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo < > thiag...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 10:17:59 -0200, JT wrote: > > > > Shitty idea. All voice should be heard. Not just the one you like to > hear. > >> > > > > If only this guy wrote anything which isn't trolling and outright lies, > > all them repetitive. If he said that feature X doesn't work, that would > be > > valid. That feature Y doesn't work in the way it should, it would be > valid. > > But this troll just repeats the same lies and ad-hominen attacks over and > > over, disappears for some time, and reappears. > > > > On Feb 13, 2016 3:19 AM, "Ilya Obshadko" > wrote: > >> > >> Thiago, I have an idea. > >>> > >>> Why don't we ban this poor excuse of an idiot from a mailing list and > >>> address real problems latest release has? > >>> > >>> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo < > >>> thiag...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> > On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 17:19:28 -0200, Emmanuel Sowah > > >>> > wrote: > >>> > > >>> > Hi Tapestry sect, > >>> >> > >>> > > >>> > Hi, insistent, annoying, repetitive, low-quality troll! > >>> > > >>> > The state of Tapestry now is very bad, as Howard and all the other > >>> >> commiters have abandoned it. > >>> >> > >>> > > >>> > This is not true. Just check Jira and the Git logs. > >>> > > >>> > Even Thiago has secretly abandoned Tapestry. > >>> >> > >>> > > >>> > I have not, and you're telling a lie. > >>> > > >>> > I'm just answering this troll because of the lies he keeps on > >>> spreading, > >>> > which are bordering on defamation. > >>> > > >>> > -- > >>> > Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo > >>> > Tapestry, Java and Hibernate consultant and developer > >>> > http://machina.com.br > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > - > >>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org > >>> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Ilya Obshadko > >>> > >>> > > > > -- > > Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo > > Tapestry, Java and Hibernate consultant and developer > > http://machina.com.br > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org > > > > >
Re: Tapestry is a sinking Ship
Dumb idea. How about background check? Are we applying for a CIA job? On Feb 15, 2016 8:34 AM, "Ido Dovrat" wrote: > Thiago, I think it would be reasonable to put in place some kind of > identity verification /screening process before admitting someone into the > group. For example, use the email address to look up the applicant on > Facebook or LinkedIn, and apply some judgement as to whether he/she seems > legit. You can also require that someone else (with verifiable identity) > vouch for the candidate. > > Then you can ban trolls without the fear of having them return under > various assumed identities. > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 2:33 PM, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo < > thiag...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 10:17:59 -0200, JT wrote: > > > > Shitty idea. All voice should be heard. Not just the one you like to > hear. > >> > > > > If only this guy wrote anything which isn't trolling and outright lies, > > all them repetitive. If he said that feature X doesn't work, that would > be > > valid. That feature Y doesn't work in the way it should, it would be > valid. > > But this troll just repeats the same lies and ad-hominen attacks over and > > over, disappears for some time, and reappears. > > > > On Feb 13, 2016 3:19 AM, "Ilya Obshadko" > wrote: > >> > >> Thiago, I have an idea. > >>> > >>> Why don't we ban this poor excuse of an idiot from a mailing list and > >>> address real problems latest release has? > >>> > >>> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo < > >>> thiag...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> > On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 17:19:28 -0200, Emmanuel Sowah > > >>> > wrote: > >>> > > >>> > Hi Tapestry sect, > >>> >> > >>> > > >>> > Hi, insistent, annoying, repetitive, low-quality troll! > >>> > > >>> > The state of Tapestry now is very bad, as Howard and all the other > >>> >> commiters have abandoned it. > >>> >> > >>> > > >>> > This is not true. Just check Jira and the Git logs. > >>> > > >>> > Even Thiago has secretly abandoned Tapestry. > >>> >> > >>> > > >>> > I have not, and you're telling a lie. > >>> > > >>> > I'm just answering this troll because of the lies he keeps on > >>> spreading, > >>> > which are bordering on defamation. > >>> > > >>> > -- > >>> > Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo > >>> > Tapestry, Java and Hibernate consultant and developer > >>> > http://machina.com.br > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > - > >>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org > >>> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Ilya Obshadko > >>> > >>> > > > > -- > > Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo > > Tapestry, Java and Hibernate consultant and developer > > http://machina.com.br > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org > > > > >
Re: Tapestry is a sinking Ship
Thiago, I think it would be reasonable to put in place some kind of identity verification /screening process before admitting someone into the group. For example, use the email address to look up the applicant on Facebook or LinkedIn, and apply some judgement as to whether he/she seems legit. You can also require that someone else (with verifiable identity) vouch for the candidate. Then you can ban trolls without the fear of having them return under various assumed identities. On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 2:33 PM, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo < thiag...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 10:17:59 -0200, JT wrote: > > Shitty idea. All voice should be heard. Not just the one you like to hear. >> > > If only this guy wrote anything which isn't trolling and outright lies, > all them repetitive. If he said that feature X doesn't work, that would be > valid. That feature Y doesn't work in the way it should, it would be valid. > But this troll just repeats the same lies and ad-hominen attacks over and > over, disappears for some time, and reappears. > > On Feb 13, 2016 3:19 AM, "Ilya Obshadko" wrote: >> >> Thiago, I have an idea. >>> >>> Why don't we ban this poor excuse of an idiot from a mailing list and >>> address real problems latest release has? >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo < >>> thiag...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> > On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 17:19:28 -0200, Emmanuel Sowah >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> > Hi Tapestry sect, >>> >> >>> > >>> > Hi, insistent, annoying, repetitive, low-quality troll! >>> > >>> > The state of Tapestry now is very bad, as Howard and all the other >>> >> commiters have abandoned it. >>> >> >>> > >>> > This is not true. Just check Jira and the Git logs. >>> > >>> > Even Thiago has secretly abandoned Tapestry. >>> >> >>> > >>> > I have not, and you're telling a lie. >>> > >>> > I'm just answering this troll because of the lies he keeps on >>> spreading, >>> > which are bordering on defamation. >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo >>> > Tapestry, Java and Hibernate consultant and developer >>> > http://machina.com.br >>> > >>> > >>> > - >>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org >>> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ilya Obshadko >>> >>> > > -- > Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo > Tapestry, Java and Hibernate consultant and developer > http://machina.com.br > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org > >
Re: Tapestry is a sinking Ship
On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 10:17:59 -0200, JT wrote: Shitty idea. All voice should be heard. Not just the one you like to hear. If only this guy wrote anything which isn't trolling and outright lies, all them repetitive. If he said that feature X doesn't work, that would be valid. That feature Y doesn't work in the way it should, it would be valid. But this troll just repeats the same lies and ad-hominen attacks over and over, disappears for some time, and reappears. On Feb 13, 2016 3:19 AM, "Ilya Obshadko" wrote: Thiago, I have an idea. Why don't we ban this poor excuse of an idiot from a mailing list and address real problems latest release has? On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo < thiag...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 17:19:28 -0200, Emmanuel Sowah > wrote: > > Hi Tapestry sect, >> > > Hi, insistent, annoying, repetitive, low-quality troll! > > The state of Tapestry now is very bad, as Howard and all the other >> commiters have abandoned it. >> > > This is not true. Just check Jira and the Git logs. > > Even Thiago has secretly abandoned Tapestry. >> > > I have not, and you're telling a lie. > > I'm just answering this troll because of the lies he keeps on spreading, > which are bordering on defamation. > > -- > Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo > Tapestry, Java and Hibernate consultant and developer > http://machina.com.br > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org > > -- Ilya Obshadko -- Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo Tapestry, Java and Hibernate consultant and developer http://machina.com.br - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org
Re: Tapestry is a sinking Ship
On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 06:19:09 -0200, Ilya Obshadko wrote: Thiago, I have an idea. Hello, Ilya! Why don't we ban this poor excuse of an idiot from a mailing list and address real problems latest release has? This was discussed before. The consensus was that banning him would just cause him to use another e-mail address and troll the same. This same troll has already done that once, so maybe it's better to have a troll with a known identity than a number of unknown ones. I haven't investigated yet what's the Apache Software Foundation policy on this. I usually try to not feed trolls, so I just try to call out their lies so someone doing a web search on Tapestry don't land on unchallenged deceptive statements. -- Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo Tapestry, Java and Hibernate consultant and developer http://machina.com.br - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org
Re: Tapestry is a sinking Ship
"the ugly bearded Neanderthals"? Lmao On Feb 14, 2016 5:34 PM, "Emmanuel Sowah" wrote: > Numa, > > It seems you Tapestry sect members can't just understand simple logic. I > will try again. > The logic here is this. If the creator of Tapestry, Mr. Ship, the ugly > bearded Neanderthals, has quit Tapestry just because Tapestry is seriously > flawed technically, and is using Closure and Wicket in his clients' > projects, then you sect members have to question yourselves why you are > still using Tapestry. Just look at the number of active members here on > this list. Tapestry users worldwide won't exceed 30 developers. It is > pathetic. > > On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Numa Schmeder wrote: > > > Some people don’t have a life so they just spend it trolling :) > > Just don’t understand the purpose of these statements, if you don’t like > > Tapestry or think it’s sinking, then just stop using it! > > And really I know people like wicket, like people like AWT, but always > > found it to be inefficient to program any interface element with tons of > > code… You just want to add a label in Wicket it's 10 lines of code + 3 > > lines of HTML, clean but inefficient, well they are changing that now but > > still…. > > > > Long life to Tapestry ;) > > > > Numa > > > > > Le 13 févr. 2016 à 10:29, Svein-Erik Løken a écrit > : > > > > > > In Norway we had trolls, but not anymore! This gay know how to get rid > > of them: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1740707. > > > > > > BTW: I have been using T54 since the first beta and think it is a huge > > improvement from 5.3. You are moving Tapestry in the right direction. I > > have a lot of javascript interacting with T54 and uses ajax, zones, > > bootstrap without problems. > > > > > > BTW2: Is there any books covering Tapestry 5.4 in English? I have this > > excellent book: http://www.tapestry5book.com/ for T53, but it's a lot of > > new features in T54 to cover. > > > > > > S-E > > > > > > From: Ilya Obshadko-2 [via Apache Tapestry Mailing List Archives] > > [mailto:ml-node+s1045711n5732111...@n5.nabble.com] > > > Sent: 13. februar 2016 09:20 > > > To: Svein-Erik Løken > > > Subject: Re: Tapestry is a sinking Ship > > > > > > Thiago, I have an idea. > > > > > > Why don't we ban this poor excuse of an idiot from a mailing list and > > > address real problems latest release has? > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo < > > > [hidden email]> wrote: > > > > > >> On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 17:19:28 -0200, Emmanuel Sowah <[hidden > > email]> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> Hi Tapestry sect, > > >>> > > >> > > >> Hi, insistent, annoying, repetitive, low-quality troll! > > >> > > >> The state of Tapestry now is very bad, as Howard and all the other > > >>> commiters have abandoned it. > > >>> > > >> > > >> This is not true. Just check Jira and the Git logs. > > >> > > >> Even Thiago has secretly abandoned Tapestry. > > >>> > > >> > > >> I have not, and you're telling a lie. > > >> > > >> I'm just answering this troll because of the lies he keeps on > spreading, > > >> which are bordering on defamation. > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo > > >> Tapestry, Java and Hibernate consultant and developer > > >> http://machina.com.br > > >> > > >> > > >> - > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [hidden > > email] > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: [hidden > > email] > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Ilya Obshadko > > > > > > > > > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the > discussion > > below: > > > > > > http://apache-tapestry-mailing-list-archives.1045711.n5.nabble.com/Tapestry-is-a-sinking-Ship-tp5732095p5732111.html > > > To unsubscribe from users@tapestry.apache.org > users@tapestry.apache.org> Mailing List Archives, click here< > > > http://apache-tapestry-mailing-list-archives.1045711.n5.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_code&node=2375125&code=c3ZlaW5AamFjaWxsYS5ub3wyMzc1MTI1fC0xNTM4NzY2ODg4 > > >. > > > NAML< > > > http://apache-tapestry-mailing-list-archives.1045711.n5.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer&id=instant_html%21nabble%3Aemail.naml&base=nabble.naml.namespaces.BasicNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NabbleNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NodeNamespace&breadcrumbs=notify_subscribers%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-instant_emails%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-send_instant_email%21nabble%3Aemail.naml > > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org > > > > >
Re: Tapestry is a sinking Ship
Numa, It seems you Tapestry sect members can't just understand simple logic. I will try again. The logic here is this. If the creator of Tapestry, Mr. Ship, the ugly bearded Neanderthals, has quit Tapestry just because Tapestry is seriously flawed technically, and is using Closure and Wicket in his clients' projects, then you sect members have to question yourselves why you are still using Tapestry. Just look at the number of active members here on this list. Tapestry users worldwide won't exceed 30 developers. It is pathetic. On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Numa Schmeder wrote: > Some people don’t have a life so they just spend it trolling :) > Just don’t understand the purpose of these statements, if you don’t like > Tapestry or think it’s sinking, then just stop using it! > And really I know people like wicket, like people like AWT, but always > found it to be inefficient to program any interface element with tons of > code… You just want to add a label in Wicket it's 10 lines of code + 3 > lines of HTML, clean but inefficient, well they are changing that now but > still…. > > Long life to Tapestry ;) > > Numa > > > Le 13 févr. 2016 à 10:29, Svein-Erik Løken a écrit : > > > > In Norway we had trolls, but not anymore! This gay know how to get rid > of them: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1740707. > > > > BTW: I have been using T54 since the first beta and think it is a huge > improvement from 5.3. You are moving Tapestry in the right direction. I > have a lot of javascript interacting with T54 and uses ajax, zones, > bootstrap without problems. > > > > BTW2: Is there any books covering Tapestry 5.4 in English? I have this > excellent book: http://www.tapestry5book.com/ for T53, but it's a lot of > new features in T54 to cover. > > > > S-E > > > > From: Ilya Obshadko-2 [via Apache Tapestry Mailing List Archives] > [mailto:ml-node+s1045711n5732111...@n5.nabble.com] > > Sent: 13. februar 2016 09:20 > > To: Svein-Erik Løken > > Subject: Re: Tapestry is a sinking Ship > > > > Thiago, I have an idea. > > > > Why don't we ban this poor excuse of an idiot from a mailing list and > > address real problems latest release has? > > > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo < > > [hidden email]> wrote: > > > >> On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 17:19:28 -0200, Emmanuel Sowah <[hidden > email]> > >> wrote: > >> > >> Hi Tapestry sect, > >>> > >> > >> Hi, insistent, annoying, repetitive, low-quality troll! > >> > >> The state of Tapestry now is very bad, as Howard and all the other > >>> commiters have abandoned it. > >>> > >> > >> This is not true. Just check Jira and the Git logs. > >> > >> Even Thiago has secretly abandoned Tapestry. > >>> > >> > >> I have not, and you're telling a lie. > >> > >> I'm just answering this troll because of the lies he keeps on spreading, > >> which are bordering on defamation. > >> > >> -- > >> Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo > >> Tapestry, Java and Hibernate consultant and developer > >> http://machina.com.br > >> > >> > >> - > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [hidden > email] > >> For additional commands, e-mail: [hidden > email] > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Ilya Obshadko > > > > > > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion > below: > > > http://apache-tapestry-mailing-list-archives.1045711.n5.nabble.com/Tapestry-is-a-sinking-Ship-tp5732095p5732111.html > > To unsubscribe from users@tapestry.apache.org users@tapestry.apache.org> Mailing List Archives, click here< > http://apache-tapestry-mailing-list-archives.1045711.n5.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_code&node=2375125&code=c3ZlaW5AamFjaWxsYS5ub3wyMzc1MTI1fC0xNTM4NzY2ODg4 > >. > > NAML< > http://apache-tapestry-mailing-list-archives.1045711.n5.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer&id=instant_html%21nabble%3Aemail.naml&base=nabble.naml.namespaces.BasicNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NabbleNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NodeNamespace&breadcrumbs=notify_subscribers%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-instant_emails%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-send_instant_email%21nabble%3Aemail.naml > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org > >
Re: Tapestry is a sinking Ship
Some people don’t have a life so they just spend it trolling :) Just don’t understand the purpose of these statements, if you don’t like Tapestry or think it’s sinking, then just stop using it! And really I know people like wicket, like people like AWT, but always found it to be inefficient to program any interface element with tons of code… You just want to add a label in Wicket it's 10 lines of code + 3 lines of HTML, clean but inefficient, well they are changing that now but still…. Long life to Tapestry ;) Numa > Le 13 févr. 2016 à 10:29, Svein-Erik Løken a écrit : > > In Norway we had trolls, but not anymore! This gay know how to get rid of > them: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1740707. > > BTW: I have been using T54 since the first beta and think it is a huge > improvement from 5.3. You are moving Tapestry in the right direction. I have > a lot of javascript interacting with T54 and uses ajax, zones, bootstrap > without problems. > > BTW2: Is there any books covering Tapestry 5.4 in English? I have this > excellent book: http://www.tapestry5book.com/ for T53, but it's a lot of new > features in T54 to cover. > > S-E > > From: Ilya Obshadko-2 [via Apache Tapestry Mailing List Archives] > [mailto:ml-node+s1045711n5732111...@n5.nabble.com] > Sent: 13. februar 2016 09:20 > To: Svein-Erik Løken > Subject: Re: Tapestry is a sinking Ship > > Thiago, I have an idea. > > Why don't we ban this poor excuse of an idiot from a mailing list and > address real problems latest release has? > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo < > [hidden email]> wrote: > >> On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 17:19:28 -0200, Emmanuel Sowah <[hidden >> email]> >> wrote: >> >> Hi Tapestry sect, >>> >> >> Hi, insistent, annoying, repetitive, low-quality troll! >> >> The state of Tapestry now is very bad, as Howard and all the other >>> commiters have abandoned it. >>> >> >> This is not true. Just check Jira and the Git logs. >> >> Even Thiago has secretly abandoned Tapestry. >>> >> >> I have not, and you're telling a lie. >> >> I'm just answering this troll because of the lies he keeps on spreading, >> which are bordering on defamation. >> >> -- >> Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo >> Tapestry, Java and Hibernate consultant and developer >> http://machina.com.br >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [hidden >> email] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [hidden >> email] >> >> > > > -- > Ilya Obshadko > > > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion > below: > http://apache-tapestry-mailing-list-archives.1045711.n5.nabble.com/Tapestry-is-a-sinking-Ship-tp5732095p5732111.html > To unsubscribe from > users@tapestry.apache.org<mailto:users@tapestry.apache.org> Mailing List > Archives, click > here<http://apache-tapestry-mailing-list-archives.1045711.n5.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_code&node=2375125&code=c3ZlaW5AamFjaWxsYS5ub3wyMzc1MTI1fC0xNTM4NzY2ODg4>. > NAML<http://apache-tapestry-mailing-list-archives.1045711.n5.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer&id=instant_html%21nabble%3Aemail.naml&base=nabble.naml.namespaces.BasicNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NabbleNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NodeNamespace&breadcrumbs=notify_subscribers%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-instant_emails%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-send_instant_email%21nabble%3Aemail.naml> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org
Re: Tapestry is a sinking Ship
JT please try to make some facebook friends and stop polluting our inbox with non-technical questions about something you do not use or understand at all. If something in T5 is not working, is to complicated feel free to give us samples and the members of the T5 sect will pick it up and improve the framework. This is how open source and democracy usually works. T5 is "code by convention", try "complain with substance" and we will listen, even to you. Thanks Jens Von meinem iPhone gesendet > Am 13.02.2016 um 17:39 schrieb JT : > > Just hit delete or better unsub. Lol >> On Feb 13, 2016 11:36 AM, "Andreas Fink" wrote: >> >> I would rephrase it to: Everybody should be allowed to raise his voice but >> let me choose if i want to listen... >> There are filter rules for 'He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named in my mail client ;-) >> >> Cheers, >> Andi. >> >>> On 13 Feb 2016, at 13:17 , JT wrote: >>> >>> Shitty idea. All voice should be heard. Not just the one you like to >> hear. On Feb 13, 2016 3:19 AM, "Ilya Obshadko" >>> wrote: >>> Thiago, I have an idea. Why don't we ban this poor excuse of an idiot from a mailing list and address real problems latest release has? On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo < thiag...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org >> >> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org
Re: Tapestry is a sinking Ship
Just hit delete or better unsub. Lol On Feb 13, 2016 11:36 AM, "Andreas Fink" wrote: > I would rephrase it to: Everybody should be allowed to raise his voice but > let me choose if i want to listen... > There are filter rules for 'He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named in my mail client ;-) > > Cheers, > Andi. > > On 13 Feb 2016, at 13:17 , JT wrote: > > > Shitty idea. All voice should be heard. Not just the one you like to > hear. > > On Feb 13, 2016 3:19 AM, "Ilya Obshadko" > wrote: > > > >> Thiago, I have an idea. > >> > >> Why don't we ban this poor excuse of an idiot from a mailing list and > >> address real problems latest release has? > >> > >> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo < > >> thiag...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org > >
Re: Tapestry is a sinking Ship
I would rephrase it to: Everybody should be allowed to raise his voice but let me choose if i want to listen... There are filter rules for 'He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named in my mail client ;-) Cheers, Andi. On 13 Feb 2016, at 13:17 , JT wrote: > Shitty idea. All voice should be heard. Not just the one you like to hear. > On Feb 13, 2016 3:19 AM, "Ilya Obshadko" wrote: > >> Thiago, I have an idea. >> >> Why don't we ban this poor excuse of an idiot from a mailing list and >> address real problems latest release has? >> >> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo < >> thiag...@gmail.com> wrote: - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org
Re: Tapestry is a sinking Ship
Shitty idea. All voice should be heard. Not just the one you like to hear. On Feb 13, 2016 3:19 AM, "Ilya Obshadko" wrote: > Thiago, I have an idea. > > Why don't we ban this poor excuse of an idiot from a mailing list and > address real problems latest release has? > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo < > thiag...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 17:19:28 -0200, Emmanuel Sowah > > wrote: > > > > Hi Tapestry sect, > >> > > > > Hi, insistent, annoying, repetitive, low-quality troll! > > > > The state of Tapestry now is very bad, as Howard and all the other > >> commiters have abandoned it. > >> > > > > This is not true. Just check Jira and the Git logs. > > > > Even Thiago has secretly abandoned Tapestry. > >> > > > > I have not, and you're telling a lie. > > > > I'm just answering this troll because of the lies he keeps on spreading, > > which are bordering on defamation. > > > > -- > > Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo > > Tapestry, Java and Hibernate consultant and developer > > http://machina.com.br > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org > > > > > > > -- > Ilya Obshadko >
RE: Tapestry is a sinking Ship
In Norway we had trolls, but not anymore! This gay know how to get rid of them: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1740707. BTW: I have been using T54 since the first beta and think it is a huge improvement from 5.3. You are moving Tapestry in the right direction. I have a lot of javascript interacting with T54 and uses ajax, zones, bootstrap without problems. BTW2: Is there any books covering Tapestry 5.4 in English? I have this excellent book: http://www.tapestry5book.com/ for T53, but it's a lot of new features in T54 to cover. S-E From: Ilya Obshadko-2 [via Apache Tapestry Mailing List Archives] [mailto:ml-node+s1045711n5732111...@n5.nabble.com] Sent: 13. februar 2016 09:20 To: Svein-Erik Løken Subject: Re: Tapestry is a sinking Ship Thiago, I have an idea. Why don't we ban this poor excuse of an idiot from a mailing list and address real problems latest release has? On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo < [hidden email]> wrote: > On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 17:19:28 -0200, Emmanuel Sowah <[hidden > email]> > wrote: > > Hi Tapestry sect, >> > > Hi, insistent, annoying, repetitive, low-quality troll! > > The state of Tapestry now is very bad, as Howard and all the other >> commiters have abandoned it. >> > > This is not true. Just check Jira and the Git logs. > > Even Thiago has secretly abandoned Tapestry. >> > > I have not, and you're telling a lie. > > I'm just answering this troll because of the lies he keeps on spreading, > which are bordering on defamation. > > -- > Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo > Tapestry, Java and Hibernate consultant and developer > http://machina.com.br > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [hidden > email] > For additional commands, e-mail: [hidden > email] > > -- Ilya Obshadko If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://apache-tapestry-mailing-list-archives.1045711.n5.nabble.com/Tapestry-is-a-sinking-Ship-tp5732095p5732111.html To unsubscribe from users@tapestry.apache.org<mailto:users@tapestry.apache.org> Mailing List Archives, click here<http://apache-tapestry-mailing-list-archives.1045711.n5.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_code&node=2375125&code=c3ZlaW5AamFjaWxsYS5ub3wyMzc1MTI1fC0xNTM4NzY2ODg4>. NAML<http://apache-tapestry-mailing-list-archives.1045711.n5.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer&id=instant_html%21nabble%3Aemail.naml&base=nabble.naml.namespaces.BasicNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NabbleNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NodeNamespace&breadcrumbs=notify_subscribers%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-instant_emails%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-send_instant_email%21nabble%3Aemail.naml>
Re: Tapestry is a sinking Ship
Thiago, I have an idea. Why don't we ban this poor excuse of an idiot from a mailing list and address real problems latest release has? On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo < thiag...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 17:19:28 -0200, Emmanuel Sowah > wrote: > > Hi Tapestry sect, >> > > Hi, insistent, annoying, repetitive, low-quality troll! > > The state of Tapestry now is very bad, as Howard and all the other >> commiters have abandoned it. >> > > This is not true. Just check Jira and the Git logs. > > Even Thiago has secretly abandoned Tapestry. >> > > I have not, and you're telling a lie. > > I'm just answering this troll because of the lies he keeps on spreading, > which are bordering on defamation. > > -- > Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo > Tapestry, Java and Hibernate consultant and developer > http://machina.com.br > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org > > -- Ilya Obshadko
Re: Tapestry is a sinking Ship
For Eclipse, you want to install Dmitry Gusev's excellent Tapestry plugin https://github.com/anjlab/eclipse-tapestry5-plugin. By the way, I agree with your comments about javascript documentation. It's great if you've been working with Javascript and AMD modules before, but totally lost if you haven't. Kalle On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 2:28 PM, h3ph3st0s wrote: > Hi, I met your framework couple days ago. From Wednsday till this moment, > I managed to compile a pet project in maven, loaded in eclipse, studied > code, started to work in an agile but solo way and now I have: > 4 screens under tabbed layout > 1 page with grid and a form to submit a simple information > 1 page with dynamic editable grid which has paging and IS NOT losing > information during paging without using weird calls server-client > 1 page that loads a whole directory as TreeBrowser. The user can access > the nodes and can download each node when it is a file. AWESOME. > 1 page that uploads files. Just that. > > And this is an application for a customer to present. I find the framework > pretty good, fast if you have some proper solid guidance, such as jumpstart > ( very nice ). > And I believe that it has so tight connection to javascript is a must in > comparison to proprietary adversaries with proprietary language tags. > > So all this I did it in 2 days. I have experience with other framework > again in Java so some concepts are not new. Not even the model how to > combine parts. > > I would like to share what I didn't like for reference. > > * I didn't fully grasp how to handle Javascript. After all I want to >incorporate a plain javascript so simple as alert hello in my page >and I got lost with the explanations in various pages. Really that >needs fix. To tell the truth I just wanted to make some >event.stopPropagate commands over palette object!.sad story > > * The eclipse does not have autocomplete for the tml files. But it is >not so bad. ( I didn't look myself very hard to find it.probably >didn't want it that much ) > > * Last I do not understand why someone built a palette object and not >a simple Listbox for a start. > > I wish all the best for a very nice job you have done > Cheers > Dimitris > > > On 2016-02-13 0:08, joe schacher wrote: > >> i still know what he/she is gonna do about it. >> >> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Stephen Nutbrown >> wrote: >> >> The only reason you email the Tapestry users group is because Tapestry >>> Users has many subscribers. >>> >>> The only reason Tapestery Users has many subscribers is because Tapestry >>> is >>> not dead. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 12 February 2016 at 22:00, David Taylor < >>> david.tay...@extensiatech.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> If Tapestry is so terrible, why waste all the energy? Just to be >>> obnoxious? >>> We would abandon Tapestry tomorrow if it weren't so bloody fast and easy to extend. emailsig On 2/12/2016 3:53 PM, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo wrote: On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 17:19:28 -0200, Emmanuel Sowah > wrote: > > Hi Tapestry sect, > > The state of Tapestry now is very bad, as Howard and all the other > >> commiters have abandoned it. >> >> This is not true. Just check Jira and the Git logs. > > Even Thiago has secretly abandoned Tapestry. > I have not, and you're telling a lie. > > I'm just answering this troll because of the lies he keeps on > spreading, > which are bordering on defamation. > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org >
Re: Tapestry is a sinking Ship
still trolling ?!?!? :))) > On 13 Feb 2016, at 6:19 AM, Emmanuel Sowah wrote: > > Hi Tapestry sect, > > The state of Tapestry now is very bad, as Howard and all the other commiters > have abandoned it. Tapestry is now a sinking ship, and Mr Ship himself has > abandoned this sinking ship. > Over the years, I have been predicting the fall of Tapestry. Because I saw > early on that the framework is seriously flawed, techically, and therefore > would die. Finally those days are now numbered. Some listened and left to > better frameworks like Wicket. Even Howard used Wicket many times on his > clients projects. Others didn't. And I really feel sorry for them. > The ship is sinking fast. And the founder himself, the wildly bearded Mr. > Ship, has ran off board. My advice to you all is quit now before the ship > drowns. Migrate to Wicket or AngularJS. Even Thiago has secretly abandoned > Tapestry. Quit this Tapestry sect NOW! > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org
Re: Tapestry is a sinking Ship
Hi, I met your framework couple days ago. From Wednsday till this moment, I managed to compile a pet project in maven, loaded in eclipse, studied code, started to work in an agile but solo way and now I have: 4 screens under tabbed layout 1 page with grid and a form to submit a simple information 1 page with dynamic editable grid which has paging and IS NOT losing information during paging without using weird calls server-client 1 page that loads a whole directory as TreeBrowser. The user can access the nodes and can download each node when it is a file. AWESOME. 1 page that uploads files. Just that. And this is an application for a customer to present. I find the framework pretty good, fast if you have some proper solid guidance, such as jumpstart ( very nice ). And I believe that it has so tight connection to javascript is a must in comparison to proprietary adversaries with proprietary language tags. So all this I did it in 2 days. I have experience with other framework again in Java so some concepts are not new. Not even the model how to combine parts. I would like to share what I didn't like for reference. * I didn't fully grasp how to handle Javascript. After all I want to incorporate a plain javascript so simple as alert hello in my page and I got lost with the explanations in various pages. Really that needs fix. To tell the truth I just wanted to make some event.stopPropagate commands over palette object!.sad story * The eclipse does not have autocomplete for the tml files. But it is not so bad. ( I didn't look myself very hard to find it.probably didn't want it that much ) * Last I do not understand why someone built a palette object and not a simple Listbox for a start. I wish all the best for a very nice job you have done Cheers Dimitris On 2016-02-13 0:08, joe schacher wrote: i still know what he/she is gonna do about it. On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Stephen Nutbrown wrote: The only reason you email the Tapestry users group is because Tapestry Users has many subscribers. The only reason Tapestery Users has many subscribers is because Tapestry is not dead. On 12 February 2016 at 22:00, David Taylor wrote: If Tapestry is so terrible, why waste all the energy? Just to be obnoxious? We would abandon Tapestry tomorrow if it weren't so bloody fast and easy to extend. emailsig On 2/12/2016 3:53 PM, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo wrote: On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 17:19:28 -0200, Emmanuel Sowah wrote: Hi Tapestry sect, The state of Tapestry now is very bad, as Howard and all the other commiters have abandoned it. This is not true. Just check Jira and the Git logs. Even Thiago has secretly abandoned Tapestry. I have not, and you're telling a lie. I'm just answering this troll because of the lies he keeps on spreading, which are bordering on defamation. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org
Re: Tapestry is a sinking Ship
we'll all be dead, soon. On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 5:18 PM, JT wrote: > Not dead, yet but soon. > On Feb 12, 2016 5:07 PM, "Stephen Nutbrown" wrote: > > > The only reason you email the Tapestry users group is because Tapestry > > Users has many subscribers. > > > > The only reason Tapestery Users has many subscribers is because Tapestry > is > > not dead. > > > > > > > > On 12 February 2016 at 22:00, David Taylor < > david.tay...@extensiatech.com> > > wrote: > > > > > If Tapestry is so terrible, why waste all the energy? Just to be > > obnoxious? > > > > > > We would abandon Tapestry tomorrow if it weren't so bloody fast and > easy > > > to extend. > > > > > > > > > emailsig On 2/12/2016 3:53 PM, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo wrote: > > > > > >> On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 17:19:28 -0200, Emmanuel Sowah > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> Hi Tapestry sect, > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> The state of Tapestry now is very bad, as Howard and all the other > > >>> commiters have abandoned it. > > >>> > > >> > > >> This is not true. Just check Jira and the Git logs. > > >> > > >> Even Thiago has secretly abandoned Tapestry. > > >>> > > >> > > >> I have not, and you're telling a lie. > > >> > > >> I'm just answering this troll because of the lies he keeps on > spreading, > > >> which are bordering on defamation. > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org > > > > > > > > >
Re: Tapestry is a sinking Ship
Not dead, yet but soon. On Feb 12, 2016 5:07 PM, "Stephen Nutbrown" wrote: > The only reason you email the Tapestry users group is because Tapestry > Users has many subscribers. > > The only reason Tapestery Users has many subscribers is because Tapestry is > not dead. > > > > On 12 February 2016 at 22:00, David Taylor > wrote: > > > If Tapestry is so terrible, why waste all the energy? Just to be > obnoxious? > > > > We would abandon Tapestry tomorrow if it weren't so bloody fast and easy > > to extend. > > > > > > emailsig On 2/12/2016 3:53 PM, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo wrote: > > > >> On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 17:19:28 -0200, Emmanuel Sowah > >> wrote: > >> > >> Hi Tapestry sect, > >>> > >> > >> > >> The state of Tapestry now is very bad, as Howard and all the other > >>> commiters have abandoned it. > >>> > >> > >> This is not true. Just check Jira and the Git logs. > >> > >> Even Thiago has secretly abandoned Tapestry. > >>> > >> > >> I have not, and you're telling a lie. > >> > >> I'm just answering this troll because of the lies he keeps on spreading, > >> which are bordering on defamation. > >> > >> > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org > > > > >
Re: Tapestry is a sinking Ship
i still know what he/she is gonna do about it. On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Stephen Nutbrown wrote: > The only reason you email the Tapestry users group is because Tapestry > Users has many subscribers. > > The only reason Tapestery Users has many subscribers is because Tapestry is > not dead. > > > > On 12 February 2016 at 22:00, David Taylor > wrote: > > > If Tapestry is so terrible, why waste all the energy? Just to be > obnoxious? > > > > We would abandon Tapestry tomorrow if it weren't so bloody fast and easy > > to extend. > > > > > > emailsig On 2/12/2016 3:53 PM, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo wrote: > > > >> On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 17:19:28 -0200, Emmanuel Sowah > >> wrote: > >> > >> Hi Tapestry sect, > >>> > >> > >> > >> The state of Tapestry now is very bad, as Howard and all the other > >>> commiters have abandoned it. > >>> > >> > >> This is not true. Just check Jira and the Git logs. > >> > >> Even Thiago has secretly abandoned Tapestry. > >>> > >> > >> I have not, and you're telling a lie. > >> > >> I'm just answering this troll because of the lies he keeps on spreading, > >> which are bordering on defamation. > >> > >> > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org > > > > >
Re: Tapestry is a sinking Ship
The only reason you email the Tapestry users group is because Tapestry Users has many subscribers. The only reason Tapestery Users has many subscribers is because Tapestry is not dead. On 12 February 2016 at 22:00, David Taylor wrote: > If Tapestry is so terrible, why waste all the energy? Just to be obnoxious? > > We would abandon Tapestry tomorrow if it weren't so bloody fast and easy > to extend. > > > emailsig On 2/12/2016 3:53 PM, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo wrote: > >> On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 17:19:28 -0200, Emmanuel Sowah >> wrote: >> >> Hi Tapestry sect, >>> >> >> >> The state of Tapestry now is very bad, as Howard and all the other >>> commiters have abandoned it. >>> >> >> This is not true. Just check Jira and the Git logs. >> >> Even Thiago has secretly abandoned Tapestry. >>> >> >> I have not, and you're telling a lie. >> >> I'm just answering this troll because of the lies he keeps on spreading, >> which are bordering on defamation. >> >> > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org > >
Re: Tapestry is a sinking Ship
If Tapestry is so terrible, why waste all the energy? Just to be obnoxious? We would abandon Tapestry tomorrow if it weren't so bloody fast and easy to extend. emailsig On 2/12/2016 3:53 PM, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo wrote: On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 17:19:28 -0200, Emmanuel Sowah wrote: Hi Tapestry sect, The state of Tapestry now is very bad, as Howard and all the other commiters have abandoned it. This is not true. Just check Jira and the Git logs. Even Thiago has secretly abandoned Tapestry. I have not, and you're telling a lie. I'm just answering this troll because of the lies he keeps on spreading, which are bordering on defamation. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org
Re: Tapestry is a sinking Ship
On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 17:19:28 -0200, Emmanuel Sowah wrote: Hi Tapestry sect, Hi, insistent, annoying, repetitive, low-quality troll! The state of Tapestry now is very bad, as Howard and all the other commiters have abandoned it. This is not true. Just check Jira and the Git logs. Even Thiago has secretly abandoned Tapestry. I have not, and you're telling a lie. I'm just answering this troll because of the lies he keeps on spreading, which are bordering on defamation. -- Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo Tapestry, Java and Hibernate consultant and developer http://machina.com.br - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org
Re: Tapestry is a sinking Ship
ok then. On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 2:55 PM, JT wrote: > We did. To angularjs and react. > On Feb 12, 2016 2:19 PM, "Emmanuel Sowah" wrote: > > > Hi Tapestry sect, > > > > The state of Tapestry now is very bad, as Howard and all the other > > commiters have abandoned it. Tapestry is now a sinking ship, and Mr Ship > > himself has abandoned this sinking ship. > > Over the years, I have been predicting the fall of Tapestry. Because I > saw > > early on that the framework is seriously flawed, techically, and > therefore > > would die. Finally those days are now numbered. Some listened and left > to > > better frameworks like Wicket. Even Howard used Wicket many times on his > > clients projects. Others didn't. And I really feel sorry for them. > > The ship is sinking fast. And the founder himself, the wildly bearded Mr. > > Ship, has ran off board. My advice to you all is quit now before the ship > > drowns. Migrate to Wicket or AngularJS. Even Thiago has secretly > abandoned > > Tapestry. Quit this Tapestry sect NOW! > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org > > > > >
Re: Tapestry is a sinking Ship
We did. To angularjs and react. On Feb 12, 2016 2:19 PM, "Emmanuel Sowah" wrote: > Hi Tapestry sect, > > The state of Tapestry now is very bad, as Howard and all the other > commiters have abandoned it. Tapestry is now a sinking ship, and Mr Ship > himself has abandoned this sinking ship. > Over the years, I have been predicting the fall of Tapestry. Because I saw > early on that the framework is seriously flawed, techically, and therefore > would die. Finally those days are now numbered. Some listened and left to > better frameworks like Wicket. Even Howard used Wicket many times on his > clients projects. Others didn't. And I really feel sorry for them. > The ship is sinking fast. And the founder himself, the wildly bearded Mr. > Ship, has ran off board. My advice to you all is quit now before the ship > drowns. Migrate to Wicket or AngularJS. Even Thiago has secretly abandoned > Tapestry. Quit this Tapestry sect NOW! > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org > >
Re: Tapestry is a sinking Ship
and if we don't what are you gonna do about it On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Emmanuel Sowah wrote: > Hi Tapestry sect, > > The state of Tapestry now is very bad, as Howard and all the other > commiters have abandoned it. Tapestry is now a sinking ship, and Mr Ship > himself has abandoned this sinking ship. > Over the years, I have been predicting the fall of Tapestry. Because I saw > early on that the framework is seriously flawed, techically, and therefore > would die. Finally those days are now numbered. Some listened and left to > better frameworks like Wicket. Even Howard used Wicket many times on his > clients projects. Others didn't. And I really feel sorry for them. > The ship is sinking fast. And the founder himself, the wildly bearded Mr. > Ship, has ran off board. My advice to you all is quit now before the ship > drowns. Migrate to Wicket or AngularJS. Even Thiago has secretly abandoned > Tapestry. Quit this Tapestry sect NOW! > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org > >
