Starting T4, what database layer to use?

2008-06-12 Thread James Sherwood
Hello all,

Currently all our development is in T3(I know we are behind).

The word has come down its time to upgrade.  My question is, what technology 
works best with T4 as the layer between it and the database?

Currently we use Torque with T3(behind again I know).  I have been researching 
it and hibernate pops up everywhere but it seems like most of the posts are 
from 2006 or earlier.

So what is the best solution for us?(Is maybe T5 and something better than 
going T4 even?)  

Thanks in advance for your advice,

--James

Re: Starting T4, what database layer to use?

2008-06-12 Thread Filip S. Adamsen

Hi James,

I'd recommend you skip T4 and go straight to T5 if you can live with it 
not being final yet. As far as I know the final release should happen 
sometime this summer, though.


T5 is already quite mature, though - I've been using T5 in production 
for more than 7 months with only minor issues along the way.


Hibernate is very much alive and kicking - check the tapestry-hibernate 
module, which adds some very nice, slick Hibernate 3 support to T5.


Oh, and if you decide to use Hibernate... get the book from Manning, 
Java Persistence with Hibernate - formerly known as Hibernate in Action.


-Filip


James Sherwood skrev:

Hello all,

Currently all our development is in T3(I know we are behind).

The word has come down its time to upgrade.  My question is, what technology 
works best with T4 as the layer between it and the database?

Currently we use Torque with T3(behind again I know).  I have been researching 
it and hibernate pops up everywhere but it seems like most of the posts are 
from 2006 or earlier.

So what is the best solution for us?(Is maybe T5 and something better than going T4 even?)  


Thanks in advance for your advice,

--James


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Re: Starting T4, what database layer to use?

2008-06-12 Thread 9902468

Hi,

You really should skip T4. I've used both and must say that T5 is really
much clearer and easier to work with.

If you want to go serious with technology, you should probably look for
Hibernate - Spring - T5 combo. For our latest project we decided to drop
Spring, because T5 ioc offered everything we need - and configuration went
down from 2 ~ 400 line xml files to 20 rows in AppModule... (Binds) That's
amazing :) Also the app is generally faster, because many Spring filters are
left out now.

Only word of caution is that T5 is not final yet. And there are some
components / functionality missing that should be there. (Date picker
localization for an example.)

Buy a book (Tapestry 5 - Buildin Web Applications by Alexander Kolesnikov is
ok.) and make a small POC with T5. Fastest way is to download Netbeans 6.1
and use it's maven support to start new project using archetype. Here is a
tutorial how to do that :
http://www.troymaxventures.com/2008/05/tapestry5-netbeans-quickstart.html

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James Sherwood wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
 Currently all our development is in T3(I know we are behind).
 
 The word has come down its time to upgrade.  My question is, what
 technology works best with T4 as the layer between it and the database?
 
 Currently we use Torque with T3(behind again I know).  I have been
 researching it and hibernate pops up everywhere but it seems like most of
 the posts are from 2006 or earlier.
 
 So what is the best solution for us?(Is maybe T5 and something better than
 going T4 even?)  
 
 Thanks in advance for your advice,
 
 --James
 

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