Re: Tapestry Forum

2011-07-28 Thread nillehammer

Paul Stanton-2 wrote:
 
 Personally I think forums are a more usable medium that mailing lists 
 for a number of reasons. eg:
 * It is easier for new users to ask their first question
 * You can 'decorate' your messages (code blocks, quotes etc) making them 
 more legible.
 * Posts are better categorised
 * You can ignore traffic until you are ready to read it
 
 I think many new tapestry users are uncomfortable with joining a mailing 
 list and therefore don't get the help they need to get up and running.
 
 You don't have to agree...
 
 Paul.
 
Paul, I'm afraid I don't agree. You're right mentioning the lack of comfort
when using the mailing list purely just with an email client. But in my
opinion nabble makes using this list as easy as a web forum. I myself use it
to read and post messages. I only check my mail account from time to time to
*delete* the mails.

So I think we have everything that is needed already. But on the other hand,
the internet is free you always gotta try new things. I wish you the best.
Let's see what comes out.

Cheers nillehammer

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Re: Tapestry Forum

2011-07-28 Thread George Christman
I agree with Nillehammer, but I do think at first the mailing list seems a
bit cumbersome to signup with, especially if your trying to access it
through nabble from day 1, but once your up and running I feel things are
very simple to use with great help. I also like how simple nabble is to
search archived records. My first thought when checking out your forum was
bright and that might be effecting the user feel. It's only one my opinion,
so what ever you feel it's worth. Good luck, hopefully it works out for you.

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Re: Tapestry Forum

2011-07-28 Thread Howard Lewis Ship
We've got forums, we've got StackOverflow, we've got IRC, we've got
who-knows-what.

The Apache way is based on email because email is distributed and
forever; any site or forum is limited to the lifespan of that site and
that forum and disruptions do happen.  To be honest, if I had my way,
we would do support on StackOverflow because that's the best damn
support forum I've seen, and it only gets better as it is more heavily
used ... but I digress.  We're Apache, we use email.

On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 6:08 AM, George Christman
gchrist...@cardaddy.com wrote:
 I agree with Nillehammer, but I do think at first the mailing list seems a
 bit cumbersome to signup with, especially if your trying to access it
 through nabble from day 1, but once your up and running I feel things are
 very simple to use with great help. I also like how simple nabble is to
 search archived records. My first thought when checking out your forum was
 bright and that might be effecting the user feel. It's only one my opinion,
 so what ever you feel it's worth. Good luck, hopefully it works out for you.

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Re: Tapestry Forum

2011-07-28 Thread Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 15:45:33 -0300, Howard Lewis Ship hls...@gmail.com  
wrote:



We've got forums, we've got StackOverflow, we've got IRC, we've got
who-knows-what.


By the way, what about downvoting the outdated Tapestry rant at  
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1303438/why-did-you-stop-using-tapestry?  
It evens calls Howard a liar.


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RE: Tapestry Forum

2007-04-24 Thread Kolesnikov, Alexander GNI
I think Tapestry forum is very much needed. Exactly for expanding and
strengthening Tapestry community. The more communication channels there
are about Tapestry, the better for the framework, and for all of us.
Different people prefer different things, so there should be ideally
plenty of everything. 

I have recently convinced my manager to adopt Tapestry 4 for a major new
project. That was really hard, and the main reason is that there are
very few people who know anything at all about Tapestry. I feel this is
something to be dealt with.

Will go and post there ;)

Alexander

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From: Paul Stanton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 24 April 2007 01:11
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: Tapestry Forum


Kalle,

Each to their own I guess, if you aren't interested by all means ignore.

I am not trying to spam the list, just trying to build on the tapestry 
community.

Personally I think forums are a more usable medium that mailing lists 
for a number of reasons. eg:
* It is easier for new users to ask their first question
* You can 'decorate' your messages (code blocks, quotes etc) making them

more legible.
* Posts are better categorised
* You can ignore traffic until you are ready to read it

I think many new tapestry users are uncomfortable with joining a mailing

list and therefore don't get the help they need to get up and running.

You don't have to agree...

Paul.

Kalle Korhonen wrote:
 We have the mailing lists for questions, they are archived and 
 searchable and we have the wiki which I regard as a much better place 
 to store how-tos etc. and other more static information. What do we 
 need the forums for?

 Kalle

 On 4/23/07, Paul Stanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It would be great to get a few of you over at 
 http://www.tapestryforums.com/

 I've signed up as a moderator to help out with the spam issues, but 
 the place could really benefit from your knowledge.

 Paul.



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Tapestry Forum

2007-04-23 Thread Paul Stanton

It would be great to get a few of you over at http://www.tapestryforums.com/

I've signed up as a moderator to help out with the spam issues, but the 
place could really benefit from your knowledge.


Paul.



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Re: Tapestry Forum

2007-04-23 Thread Kalle Korhonen

We have the mailing lists for questions, they are archived and searchable
and we have the wiki which I regard as a much better place to store how-tos
etc. and other more static information. What do we need the forums for?

Kalle

On 4/23/07, Paul Stanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


It would be great to get a few of you over at
http://www.tapestryforums.com/

I've signed up as a moderator to help out with the spam issues, but the
place could really benefit from your knowledge.

Paul.



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Re: Tapestry Forum

2007-04-23 Thread Paul Stanton

Kalle,

Each to their own I guess, if you aren't interested by all means ignore. 
I am not trying to spam the list, just trying to build on the tapestry 
community.


Personally I think forums are a more usable medium that mailing lists 
for a number of reasons. eg:

* It is easier for new users to ask their first question
* You can 'decorate' your messages (code blocks, quotes etc) making them 
more legible.

* Posts are better categorised
* You can ignore traffic until you are ready to read it

I think many new tapestry users are uncomfortable with joining a mailing 
list and therefore don't get the help they need to get up and running.


You don't have to agree...

Paul.

Kalle Korhonen wrote:

We have the mailing lists for questions, they are archived and searchable
and we have the wiki which I regard as a much better place to store 
how-tos

etc. and other more static information. What do we need the forums for?

Kalle

On 4/23/07, Paul Stanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


It would be great to get a few of you over at
http://www.tapestryforums.com/

I've signed up as a moderator to help out with the spam issues, but the
place could really benefit from your knowledge.

Paul.




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