Deploying new virtual hosts

2005-12-04 Thread Terence M. Bandoian
Hi-

I'd suggest searching the Internet for web hosting control panel. 
You'll likely need to sort through the features provided and select
according to the requirements of your project.  As you might imagine,
support is included, sometimes optionally, for a wide range of services
including Tomcat.

-Terence M. Bandoian

Can you recommend a commercial hosting application that would manage tomcat
and meet my needs?

George Sexton
MH Software, Inc.
http://www.mhsoftware.com/
Voice: 303 438 9585


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RE: Deploying new virtual hosts

2005-12-03 Thread George Sexton
Can you recommend a commercial hosting application that would manage tomcat
and meet my needs?

George Sexton
MH Software, Inc.
http://www.mhsoftware.com/
Voice: 303 438 9585
  

 -Original Message-
 From: Terence M. Bandoian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 2:08 PM
 To: users@tomcat.apache.org
 Subject: Deploying new virtual hosts
 
 Hi-
 
 For that many virtual domains, you may want to investigate using a
 commercial hosting application that allows you to manage the 
 server from
 a web interface.  They are available for Linux and Windows and may be
 worth the cost in time saved.
 
 -Terence M. Bandoian
 


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Re: Deploying new virtual hosts

2005-12-02 Thread Mikolaj Rydzewski

George Sexton wrote:


I'm trying to sort out a way I can automate deploying new virtual hosts on
my Tomcat server. Right now I'm running about 70 virtual hosts. Each virtual
host has only one ROOT context. I'm planning on scaling up to at least 200
virtual hosts before I need to get a second machine. The second machine will
probably be more powerful, and I'll want to scale it into the region of
something like 1000 virtual hosts. I've looked through the documentation on
the Tomcat site and don't think I'm seeing what I need.

Ideally I would like something that would be scriptable that would let me
automatically deploy the virtual hosts. If I can't get that, some
application that would let me create a new virtual host without stopping and
re-starting tomcat would be nice. I'm thinking in the near future I will
need to deploy several new virtual hosts per day. If I can't do it
automatically, I'd at least like one tool that works that could be used to
create a virtual host correctly.
 

Have you tried embeded tomcat? It's very easy to set up, and add new 
hosts, contexts, etc. on the fly. So it would be possible with very 
little effort to create small app to create/delete any host inside such 
tomcat.


Sample code:

embedded = new Embedded();
embedded.setCatalinaHome(catalinaHome.getAbsolutePath());
Engine engine = embedded.createEngine();
engine.setDefaultHost(localhost);
Host host = embedded.createHost(localhost, appBase.getAbsolutePath());
engine.addChild(host);
Context ctx = embedded.createContext(/ctx, docBase.getAbsolutePath());
host.addChild(ctx);
embedded.addEngine(engine);
Connector connector = embedded.createConnector((InetAddress) null, 8080, 
false);

embedded.addConnector(connector);
embedded.start();


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Deploying new virtual hosts

2005-12-02 Thread Terence M. Bandoian
Hi-

For that many virtual domains, you may want to investigate using a
commercial hosting application that allows you to manage the server from
a web interface.  They are available for Linux and Windows and may be
worth the cost in time saved.

-Terence M. Bandoian

 George Sexton wrote:

 I'm trying to sort out a way I can automate deploying new virtual
 hosts on
 my Tomcat server. Right now I'm running about 70 virtual hosts. Each
 virtual
 host has only one ROOT context. I'm planning on scaling up to at
 least 200
 virtual hosts before I need to get a second machine. The second
 machine will
 probably be more powerful, and I'll want to scale it into the region of
 something like 1000 virtual hosts. I've looked through the
 documentation on
 the Tomcat site and don't think I'm seeing what I need.

 Ideally I would like something that would be scriptable that would
 let me
 automatically deploy the virtual hosts. If I can't get that, some
 application that would let me create a new virtual host without
 stopping and
 re-starting tomcat would be nice. I'm thinking in the near future I
 will
 need to deploy several new virtual hosts per day. If I can't do it
 automatically, I'd at least like one tool that works that could be
 used to
 create a virtual host correctly. 


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RE: Deploying new virtual hosts

2005-12-02 Thread George Sexton
I think it would be a lot more practical for me to fix the things wrong with
host-manager than to try and replicate so much of Tomcat's internal
workings.

George Sexton
MH Software, Inc.
http://www.mhsoftware.com/
Voice: 303 438 9585
  

 -Original Message-
 From: Mikolaj Rydzewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 4:51 AM
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: Re: Deploying new virtual hosts
 
 Have you tried embeded tomcat? It's very easy to set up, and add new 
 hosts, contexts, etc. on the fly. So it would be possible with very 
 little effort to create small app to create/delete any host 
 inside such 
 tomcat.
 
 Sample code:
 
 embedded = new Embedded();
 embedded.setCatalinaHome(catalinaHome.getAbsolutePath());
 Engine engine = embedded.createEngine();
 engine.setDefaultHost(localhost);
 Host host = embedded.createHost(localhost, 
 appBase.getAbsolutePath());
 engine.addChild(host);
 Context ctx = embedded.createContext(/ctx, 
 docBase.getAbsolutePath());
 host.addChild(ctx);
 embedded.addEngine(engine);
 Connector connector = embedded.createConnector((InetAddress) 
 null, 8080, 
 false);
 embedded.addConnector(connector);
 embedded.start();
 
 
 -- 
 Mikolaj Rydzewski  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Becomo S.A.
 tel. (12) 2927104
 
 
 


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Deploying new virtual hosts

2005-12-01 Thread George Sexton
I'm trying to sort out a way I can automate deploying new virtual hosts on
my Tomcat server. Right now I'm running about 70 virtual hosts. Each virtual
host has only one ROOT context. I'm planning on scaling up to at least 200
virtual hosts before I need to get a second machine. The second machine will
probably be more powerful, and I'll want to scale it into the region of
something like 1000 virtual hosts. I've looked through the documentation on
the Tomcat site and don't think I'm seeing what I need.

Ideally I would like something that would be scriptable that would let me
automatically deploy the virtual hosts. If I can't get that, some
application that would let me create a new virtual host without stopping and
re-starting tomcat would be nice. I'm thinking in the near future I will
need to deploy several new virtual hosts per day. If I can't do it
automatically, I'd at least like one tool that works that could be used to
create a virtual host correctly.

I've tried using the host-manager application, but it has some major
problems. They are:

  1) It auto deploys manager.xml. That's just rude. 
 I don't want 70 copies of the manager application deployed, when they
 will never be used. The only change ever made to a host is in the
 aliases, and that can't be edited by the manager application.
  2) The host creation parameters aren't serialized. Things like aliases
 and appbase are lost on re-start.
  3) It does not create context.xml files in the [enginname]/[hostname] 
 dirctory for any contexts that are auto-deployed when the virtual 
 host is created. IOW, if I create a virtual host with a appbase 
 of /home/abc, and there exists a web application /home/abc/ROOT,
 then I expect that it would create [enginename]/[hostname]/ROOT.xml. 
 This is particularly important since appbase isn't getting saved.
  4) There is no documentation.

I looked at the Admin application (5.5.9). I just don't think its going to
be up to any kind of task. 

  1) A major problem  is that if there is a permission problem 
 on any virtual host or context where it wants to write a 
 file, the write of server.xml just aborts, and the user 
 is given the message that changes were saved successfully. 
 So, you just go along fine until you re-start the server 
 and then the crap hits the fan in a really major way.  
  2) There were also issues where added aliases would not 
 work until the virtual host was stopped and re-started. 
 Of course the admin app doesn't give you any way of 
 stopping and re-starting a host. You have to use 
 host-manager for that. 
  3) Admin also seems incapable of deleting the manager 
 application.
  4) I've also noticed that admin puts WatchedResource 
 entries in the context.xml even when the context 
 is not reloadable, and it seems to add an extra 
 entry for this each time the configuration is saved.

I've been manually editing the server.xml file to add new host entries and
then re-starting Tomcat. This hasn't been a really great solution, but it
has worked. This is cumbersome because I don't want to bounce a lot of
customers so I end up doing things in the late evening when possible.

If I've missed a way of doing things, I'd appreciate any pointers. Thanks.

George Sexton
MH Software, Inc.
http://www.mhsoftware.com/
Voice: 303 438 9585
 


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