Java 6u35, 7u07 are available

2012-08-31 Thread Konstantin Kolinko
Hi!

Just noting that Java 6u35, 7u07 were released by Oracle a day ago
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/

Those contain security fixes for issues exploitable when running Java
from within a web browser. (Those running it on server or standalone
are said to be unaffected).
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/topics/security/alert-cve-2012-4681-1835715.html

BTW, some media wrote that CVE-2012-4681 affects only Java 7, but not Java 6.
Oracle page, linked above, says the update includes fixes for two
other vulnerabilities and affects both Java 6 and Java 7.

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Re: Java 6u35, 7u07 are available

2012-08-31 Thread Tony Anecito
Hi All,
 
I looked at the release notes and there was nearly nothing there. So 
justification to update was impossible. Oracle needs to realize that releases 
with just one security and one time clock change makes it impossible to explain 
to anyone why we need to update an Enterprise.
 
Just my inital reaction. Used to be you got actual release notes when Sun owned 
Java.
 
Regards,
-Tony

--- On Fri, 8/31/12, Konstantin Kolinko  wrote:


From: Konstantin Kolinko 
Subject: Java 6u35, 7u07 are available
To: "Tomcat Users List" 
Date: Friday, August 31, 2012, 8:54 AM


Hi!

Just noting that Java 6u35, 7u07 were released by Oracle a day ago
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/

Those contain security fixes for issues exploitable when running Java
from within a web browser. (Those running it on server or standalone
are said to be unaffected).
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/topics/security/alert-cve-2012-4681-1835715.html

BTW, some media wrote that CVE-2012-4681 affects only Java 7, but not Java 6.
Oracle page, linked above, says the update includes fixes for two
other vulnerabilities and affects both Java 6 and Java 7.

Best regards,
Konstantin Kolinko

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Re: Java 6u35, 7u07 are available

2012-08-31 Thread David kerber

On 8/31/2012 11:02 AM, Tony Anecito wrote:

Hi All,

I looked at the release notes and there was nearly nothing there. So 
justification to update was impossible. Oracle needs to realize that releases 
with just one security and one time clock change makes it impossible to explain 
to anyone why we need to update an Enterprise.


To me, a rapidly-spreading exploit that affects all major operating 
systems (both linux and windows) and browsers is a good-enough reason.





Just my inital reaction. Used to be you got actual release notes when Sun owned 
Java.

Regards,
-Tony

--- On Fri, 8/31/12, Konstantin Kolinko  wrote:


From: Konstantin Kolinko
Subject: Java 6u35, 7u07 are available
To: "Tomcat Users List"
Date: Friday, August 31, 2012, 8:54 AM


Hi!

Just noting that Java 6u35, 7u07 were released by Oracle a day ago
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/

Those contain security fixes for issues exploitable when running Java
from within a web browser. (Those running it on server or standalone
are said to be unaffected).
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/topics/security/alert-cve-2012-4681-1835715.html

BTW, some media wrote that CVE-2012-4681 affects only Java 7, but not Java 6.
Oracle page, linked above, says the update includes fixes for two
other vulnerabilities and affects both Java 6 and Java 7.

Best regards,
Konstantin Kolinko

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Re: Java 6u35, 7u07 are available

2012-08-31 Thread Giles Coochey

On 31/08/2012 16:02, Tony Anecito wrote:

Hi All,
  
I looked at the release notes and there was nearly nothing there. So justification to update was impossible. Oracle needs to realize that releases with just one security and one time clock change makes it impossible to explain to anyone why we need to update an Enterprise.
  
Just my inital reaction. Used to be you got actual release notes when Sun owned Java.
  
Regards,

-Tony


"Zero-Day Exploit in the Wild" enough reason for you?

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Re: Java 6u35, 7u07 are available

2012-08-31 Thread Casper Wandahl Schmidt
Read the second link and you have quite a reason for upgrading :) 
Actually all teamlers at GameForge was told to disable java in browsers 
because of this security issue...


Med venlig hilsen/Kind regards
Casper W. Schmidt

Den 31-08-2012 17:02, Tony Anecito skrev:

Hi All,
  
I looked at the release notes and there was nearly nothing there. So justification to update was impossible. Oracle needs to realize that releases with just one security and one time clock change makes it impossible to explain to anyone why we need to update an Enterprise.
  
Just my inital reaction. Used to be you got actual release notes when Sun owned Java.
  
Regards,

-Tony

--- On Fri, 8/31/12, Konstantin Kolinko  wrote:


From: Konstantin Kolinko 
Subject: Java 6u35, 7u07 are available
To: "Tomcat Users List" 
Date: Friday, August 31, 2012, 8:54 AM


Hi!

Just noting that Java 6u35, 7u07 were released by Oracle a day ago
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/

Those contain security fixes for issues exploitable when running Java
from within a web browser. (Those running it on server or standalone
are said to be unaffected).
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/topics/security/alert-cve-2012-4681-1835715.html

BTW, some media wrote that CVE-2012-4681 affects only Java 7, but not Java 6.
Oracle page, linked above, says the update includes fixes for two
other vulnerabilities and affects both Java 6 and Java 7.

Best regards,
Konstantin Kolinko

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RE: Java 6u35, 7u07 are available

2012-08-31 Thread Williams, Nick
Just my smarmy reply to Tony's "when Sun owned Java" comment...

Used to be when Sun owned Java you got security updates months, not days, after 
a vulnerability like this was discovered. :-)

Not saying I like Oracle (I loathe it most days); just making the point that 
they were REALLY good about jumping on this issue so quickly.

Nick

-Original Message-
From: Tony Anecito [mailto:adanec...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 10:02 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Java 6u35, 7u07 are available

Hi All,

I looked at the release notes and there was nearly nothing there. So 
justification to update was impossible. Oracle needs to realize that releases 
with just one security and one time clock change makes it impossible to explain 
to anyone why we need to update an Enterprise.

Just my inital reaction. Used to be you got actual release notes when Sun owned 
Java.

Regards,
-Tony

--- On Fri, 8/31/12, Konstantin Kolinko  wrote:


From: Konstantin Kolinko 
Subject: Java 6u35, 7u07 are available
To: "Tomcat Users List" 
Date: Friday, August 31, 2012, 8:54 AM


Hi!

Just noting that Java 6u35, 7u07 were released by Oracle a day ago 
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/

Those contain security fixes for issues exploitable when running Java from 
within a web browser. (Those running it on server or standalone are said to be 
unaffected).
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/topics/security/alert-cve-2012-4681-1835715.html

BTW, some media wrote that CVE-2012-4681 affects only Java 7, but not Java 6.
Oracle page, linked above, says the update includes fixes for two other 
vulnerabilities and affects both Java 6 and Java 7.

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Konstantin Kolinko

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Re: Java 6u35, 7u07 are available

2012-08-31 Thread Jess Holle

Well, don't give Oracle too much credit -- or grief.

According to various articles (look them up, I didn't save the URLs), 
they were notified of these vulnerabilities ~4 months ago.


Unfortunately several days ago serious attacks in the wild using these 
vulnerabilities were discovered -- after which Oracle responded rather 
quickly.


So one can give Oracle hell for not triaging these particular 
vulnerabilities as needing redress far more quickly than 4 months or 
laud them for fixing the issue quickly once a zero-day attack was found 
in the wild.  I'd say the reasonable response is somewhere in between 
and that overall most companies make some mistakes in this area (just 
look at some of the issue Microsoft has sat on)


On 8/31/2012 10:16 AM, Williams, Nick wrote:

Just my smarmy reply to Tony's "when Sun owned Java" comment...

Used to be when Sun owned Java you got security updates months, not days, after 
a vulnerability like this was discovered. :-)

Not saying I like Oracle (I loathe it most days); just making the point that 
they were REALLY good about jumping on this issue so quickly.

Nick

-Original Message-
From: Tony Anecito [mailto:adanec...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 10:02 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Java 6u35, 7u07 are available

Hi All,

I looked at the release notes and there was nearly nothing there. So 
justification to update was impossible. Oracle needs to realize that releases 
with just one security and one time clock change makes it impossible to explain 
to anyone why we need to update an Enterprise.

Just my inital reaction. Used to be you got actual release notes when Sun owned 
Java.

Regards,
-Tony

--- On Fri, 8/31/12, Konstantin Kolinko  wrote:


From: Konstantin Kolinko 
Subject: Java 6u35, 7u07 are available
To: "Tomcat Users List" 
Date: Friday, August 31, 2012, 8:54 AM


Hi!

Just noting that Java 6u35, 7u07 were released by Oracle a day ago 
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/

Those contain security fixes for issues exploitable when running Java from 
within a web browser. (Those running it on server or standalone are said to be 
unaffected).
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/topics/security/alert-cve-2012-4681-1835715.html

BTW, some media wrote that CVE-2012-4681 affects only Java 7, but not Java 6.
Oracle page, linked above, says the update includes fixes for two other 
vulnerabilities and affects both Java 6 and Java 7.

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Konstantin Kolinko

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Re: Java 6u35, 7u07 are available

2012-08-31 Thread Giles Coochey

On 31/08/2012 16:22, Jess Holle wrote:

Well, don't give Oracle too much credit -- or grief.

According to various articles (look them up, I didn't save the URLs), 
they were notified of these vulnerabilities ~4 months ago.


Unfortunately several days ago serious attacks in the wild using these 
vulnerabilities were discovered -- after which Oracle responded rather 
quickly.


So one can give Oracle hell for not triaging these particular 
vulnerabilities as needing redress far more quickly than 4 months or 
laud them for fixing the issue quickly once a zero-day attack was 
found in the wild.  I'd say the reasonable response is somewhere in 
between and that overall most companies make some mistakes in this 
area (just look at some of the issue Microsoft has sat on)


I try not to criticise Oracle or Sun too much, it kind of went from 
'exploit in the wild' to 'very easily obtainable exploit'


https://community.rapid7.com/community/metasploit/blog/2012/08/30/weekly-metasploit-update

I can understand them being vague about the update, but critically 
severe seems an appropriate description.


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Re: Java 6u35, 7u07 are available

2012-08-31 Thread Tony Anecito
Thanks Everyone. I agree on the security issue just seemed the last couple of 
updates had no substance beyond just security. MS sends updates quite often but 
I look forward to advances in other areas like performance ect.
 
Regards,
-Tony

--- On Fri, 8/31/12, Jess Holle  wrote:


From: Jess Holle 
Subject: Re: Java 6u35, 7u07 are available
To: "Tomcat Users List" 
Cc: "Williams, Nick" 
Date: Friday, August 31, 2012, 9:22 AM


Well, don't give Oracle too much credit -- or grief.

According to various articles (look them up, I didn't save the URLs), 
they were notified of these vulnerabilities ~4 months ago.

Unfortunately several days ago serious attacks in the wild using these 
vulnerabilities were discovered -- after which Oracle responded rather 
quickly.

So one can give Oracle hell for not triaging these particular 
vulnerabilities as needing redress far more quickly than 4 months or 
laud them for fixing the issue quickly once a zero-day attack was found 
in the wild.  I'd say the reasonable response is somewhere in between 
and that overall most companies make some mistakes in this area (just 
look at some of the issue Microsoft has sat on)

On 8/31/2012 10:16 AM, Williams, Nick wrote:
> Just my smarmy reply to Tony's "when Sun owned Java" comment...
>
> Used to be when Sun owned Java you got security updates months, not days, 
> after a vulnerability like this was discovered. :-)
>
> Not saying I like Oracle (I loathe it most days); just making the point that 
> they were REALLY good about jumping on this issue so quickly.
>
> Nick
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tony Anecito [mailto:adanec...@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 10:02 AM
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Subject: Re: Java 6u35, 7u07 are available
>
> Hi All,
>
> I looked at the release notes and there was nearly nothing there. So 
> justification to update was impossible. Oracle needs to realize that releases 
> with just one security and one time clock change makes it impossible to 
> explain to anyone why we need to update an Enterprise.
>
> Just my inital reaction. Used to be you got actual release notes when Sun 
> owned Java.
>
> Regards,
> -Tony
>
> --- On Fri, 8/31/12, Konstantin Kolinko  wrote:
>
>
> From: Konstantin Kolinko 
> Subject: Java 6u35, 7u07 are available
> To: "Tomcat Users List" 
> Date: Friday, August 31, 2012, 8:54 AM
>
>
> Hi!
>
> Just noting that Java 6u35, 7u07 were released by Oracle a day ago 
> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/
>
> Those contain security fixes for issues exploitable when running Java from 
> within a web browser. (Those running it on server or standalone are said to 
> be unaffected).
> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/topics/security/alert-cve-2012-4681-1835715.html
>
> BTW, some media wrote that CVE-2012-4681 affects only Java 7, but not Java 6.
> Oracle page, linked above, says the update includes fixes for two other 
> vulnerabilities and affects both Java 6 and Java 7.
>
> Best regards,
> Konstantin Kolinko
>
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Re: Java 6u35, 7u07 are available

2012-08-31 Thread Jess Holle
In case it's not clear, Oracle normally strictly alternates between 
security-only (or very, very nearly security only) and 
performance/bug-fix updates.


In this particular case they had to alter their plans -- as they had to 
get a security fix out the door immediately.


On 8/31/2012 10:31 AM, Tony Anecito wrote:

Thanks Everyone. I agree on the security issue just seemed the last couple of 
updates had no substance beyond just security. MS sends updates quite often but 
I look forward to advances in other areas like performance ect.
  
Regards,

-Tony

--- On Fri, 8/31/12, Jess Holle  wrote:


From: Jess Holle 
Subject: Re: Java 6u35, 7u07 are available
To: "Tomcat Users List" 
Cc: "Williams, Nick" 
Date: Friday, August 31, 2012, 9:22 AM


Well, don't give Oracle too much credit -- or grief.

According to various articles (look them up, I didn't save the URLs),
they were notified of these vulnerabilities ~4 months ago.

Unfortunately several days ago serious attacks in the wild using these
vulnerabilities were discovered -- after which Oracle responded rather
quickly.

So one can give Oracle hell for not triaging these particular
vulnerabilities as needing redress far more quickly than 4 months or
laud them for fixing the issue quickly once a zero-day attack was found
in the wild.  I'd say the reasonable response is somewhere in between
and that overall most companies make some mistakes in this area (just
look at some of the issue Microsoft has sat on)

On 8/31/2012 10:16 AM, Williams, Nick wrote:

Just my smarmy reply to Tony's "when Sun owned Java" comment...

Used to be when Sun owned Java you got security updates months, not days, after 
a vulnerability like this was discovered. :-)

Not saying I like Oracle (I loathe it most days); just making the point that 
they were REALLY good about jumping on this issue so quickly.

Nick

-Original Message-
From: Tony Anecito [mailto:adanec...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 10:02 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Java 6u35, 7u07 are available

Hi All,

I looked at the release notes and there was nearly nothing there. So 
justification to update was impossible. Oracle needs to realize that releases 
with just one security and one time clock change makes it impossible to explain 
to anyone why we need to update an Enterprise.

Just my inital reaction. Used to be you got actual release notes when Sun owned 
Java.

Regards,
-Tony

--- On Fri, 8/31/12, Konstantin Kolinko  wrote:


From: Konstantin Kolinko 
Subject: Java 6u35, 7u07 are available
To: "Tomcat Users List" 
Date: Friday, August 31, 2012, 8:54 AM


Hi!

Just noting that Java 6u35, 7u07 were released by Oracle a day ago 
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/

Those contain security fixes for issues exploitable when running Java from 
within a web browser. (Those running it on server or standalone are said to be 
unaffected).
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/topics/security/alert-cve-2012-4681-1835715.html

BTW, some media wrote that CVE-2012-4681 affects only Java 7, but not Java 6.
Oracle page, linked above, says the update includes fixes for two other 
vulnerabilities and affects both Java 6 and Java 7.

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Re: Java 6u35, 7u07 are available

2012-08-31 Thread Konstantin Kolinko
2012/8/31 Konstantin Kolinko :
> Hi!
>
> Just noting that Java 6u35, 7u07 were released by Oracle a day ago
> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/
>
> Those contain security fixes for issues exploitable when running Java
> from within a web browser. (Those running it on server or standalone
> are said to be unaffected).
> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/topics/security/alert-cve-2012-4681-1835715.html
>
> BTW, some media wrote that CVE-2012-4681 affects only Java 7, but not Java 6.
> Oracle page, linked above, says the update includes fixes for two
> other vulnerabilities and affects both Java 6 and Java 7.

Confirming, that CVE-2012-4681 affects those server systems that rely
on SecurityManager to secure Tomcat and allow it to run untrusted web
applications  (e.g. shared hosting environments).

The existing proof-of-concept for this issue triggers it by calling
some method in AWT implementation classes (sun.*).  This method is
public in 7u06 and does not check its caller.

The method exists in 6u34 as well, but it is private there and thus
cannot be called without using reflection API. So Java 6 is unaffected
by this specific issue.

Best regards,
Konstantin Kolinko

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