Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed

2009-11-18 Thread Pid

On 18/11/2009 01:10, Imad Hachem wrote:


Dear Pid,

After one Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, what kind of variables  (that might 
come as null) I should rely on to know that my node has been stoped.


Why do they need to be null?

You're *still* not explaining why you think they should be null - simply 
asserting that they are null does not explain why this should be the case.


Please provide an explanation as to why the variable that you have set 
to a known value, should suddenly stop being that value and be unset, or 
be null.


What is causing it to change?



When you manually shutdown a particular node, you are setting the 
MANUAL_STOP attribute to "true" or "1" or some known value.


You only need to know this in the HttpSessionListener so you can 
determine whether the sessions are expiring because the node is stopping.


If the value is null, then the node is not being manually stopped, and 
so in all probability the sessions are expiring naturally.



>>> I need to know if my sessionDestroyed has been called from a
>>> session.invalidate Event OR session timeout OR Tomcat Cluster node
>>> shutdown.

If you control the application, then you can always ensure that the 
session.invalidate() method is accompanied by your custom log out code.


The other two conditions should be covered by the code described previously.


p



Best Regards,
Imad Hachem

System Engineer





From: p...@pidster.com
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:19:07 +0000
Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, 
sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed
To: users@tomcat.apache.org

On 18 Nov 2009, at 00:07, Imad Hachem  wrote:

Dear Pid,
find below my explanation:

1. Manually set an attribute (e.g. MANUAL_STOP=1) in application scope
2. Manually shutdown Tomcat instance.
3. Tomcat expires all sessions
4. Tomcat fires HttpSessionListener.sessionDestroyed for each session
5. custom code checks for, and finds, attribute (e.g. MANUAL_STOP=1)
if(MANUAL_STOP == null){ // Tomcat Cluster Node Shutdown

//don't do anything

}

else{ // case of session.invalidate or session timeout

6. custom code does logout per session
}

8. Tomcat fires ServletContextListener.contextDestroyed for each app

But in fact, the variable MANUAL_STOP saved to the application scope
is always coming as 1, even after tomcat cluster node shutdown which
expected to come as null.


Yes. The value 1 is expected - you're not explaining why you think it
should be null.

p






I need to know if my sessionDestroyed has been called from a
session.invalidate Event OR session timeout OR Tomcat Cluster node
shutdown.



Best Regards,
Imad Hachem

System Engineer





Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:23:16 +
From: p...@pidster.com
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
CC: ihac...@lb.path-solutions.com
Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node
shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed

On 17/11/2009 16:11, Imad Hachem wrote:


Dear Pid,

I am expecting them to come as null to know that the Tomcat Node
(or context) has been shutdown.


That makes no sense. These are the logical steps.

1. Manually set an attribute (e.g. MANUAL_STOP=1) in application
scope
2. Manually shutdown Tomcat instance.
3. Tomcat expires all sessions
4. Tomcat fires HttpSessionListener.sessionDestroyed for each session
5. custom code checks for, and finds, attribute (e.g. MANUAL_STOP=1)
6. custom code does logout per session
8. Tomcat fires ServletContextListener.contextDestroyed for each app


Perhaps you can explain, clearly, what you expect to happen and
where it
happens?


p



Best Regards,
Imad Hachem

System Engineer





Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:08:37 +
From: p...@pidster.com
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
CC: ihac...@lb.path-solutions.com
Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node
shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed

On 17/11/2009 15:57, Imad Hachem wrote:


Dear Pid,

I have tried to set application context variables, but it didn't
worked, since I m expecting to get these variables as null
values after node shutdown, but in fact they are coming as not
null.


If you set them as "not null" and they are "not null" why are you
surprised?

Why do you expect them to be null?


p



Best Regards,
Imad Hachem

System Engineer





Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:38:22 +0000
From: p...@pidster.com
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node
shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed

On 17/11/2009 14:40, Ronald Klop wrote:

Hi Imad,

Ronald. (The Ronald of the link mentioned by Pid.)


Did the code supplied therein, work for you Ronald?


@Imad

The Servlet Spec (and therefore Tomcat) doesn't differentiate
between
causes of session expiry.

The code requires you to set a value in the application scope,
then the
HttpSessionLis

RE: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed

2009-11-17 Thread Imad Hachem

Dear Pid,

 

After one Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, what kind of variables  (that might 
come as null) I should rely on to know that my node has been stoped.

 



Best Regards,
Imad Hachem 

System Engineer 



 
> From: p...@pidster.com
> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:19:07 +
> Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, 
> sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed
> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> 
> On 18 Nov 2009, at 00:07, Imad Hachem  wrote:
> > Dear Pid,
> > find below my explanation:
> >
> > 1. Manually set an attribute (e.g. MANUAL_STOP=1) in application scope
> > 2. Manually shutdown Tomcat instance.
> > 3. Tomcat expires all sessions
> > 4. Tomcat fires HttpSessionListener.sessionDestroyed for each session
> > 5. custom code checks for, and finds, attribute (e.g. MANUAL_STOP=1)
> > if(MANUAL_STOP == null){ // Tomcat Cluster Node Shutdown
> >
> > //don't do anything
> >
> > }
> >
> > else{ // case of session.invalidate or session timeout
> >
> > 6. custom code does logout per session
> > }
> >
> > 8. Tomcat fires ServletContextListener.contextDestroyed for each app
> >
> > But in fact, the variable MANUAL_STOP saved to the application scope
> > is always coming as 1, even after tomcat cluster node shutdown which
> > expected to come as null.
> 
> Yes. The value 1 is expected - you're not explaining why you think it
> should be null.
> 
> p
> 
> 
> >
> >
> >
> > I need to know if my sessionDestroyed has been called from a
> > session.invalidate Event OR session timeout OR Tomcat Cluster node
> > shutdown.
> >
> >
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Imad Hachem
> >
> > System Engineer
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:23:16 +
> >> From: p...@pidster.com
> >> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> >> CC: ihac...@lb.path-solutions.com
> >> Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node
> >> shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed
> >>
> >> On 17/11/2009 16:11, Imad Hachem wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Dear Pid,
> >>>
> >>> I am expecting them to come as null to know that the Tomcat Node
> >>> (or context) has been shutdown.
> >>
> >> That makes no sense. These are the logical steps.
> >>
> >> 1. Manually set an attribute (e.g. MANUAL_STOP=1) in application
> >> scope
> >> 2. Manually shutdown Tomcat instance.
> >> 3. Tomcat expires all sessions
> >> 4. Tomcat fires HttpSessionListener.sessionDestroyed for each session
> >> 5. custom code checks for, and finds, attribute (e.g. MANUAL_STOP=1)
> >> 6. custom code does logout per session
> >> 8. Tomcat fires ServletContextListener.contextDestroyed for each app
> >>
> >>
> >> Perhaps you can explain, clearly, what you expect to happen and
> >> where it
> >> happens?
> >>
> >>
> >> p
> >>
> >>
> >>> Best Regards,
> >>> Imad Hachem
> >>>
> >>> System Engineer
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:08:37 +
> >>>> From: p...@pidster.com
> >>>> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> >>>> CC: ihac...@lb.path-solutions.com
> >>>> Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node
> >>>> shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed
> >>>>
> >>>> On 17/11/2009 15:57, Imad Hachem wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dear Pid,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have tried to set application context variables, but it didn't
> >>>>> worked, since I m expecting to get these variables as null
> >>>>> values after node shutdown, but in fact they are coming as not
> >>>>> null.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you set them as "not null" and they are "not null" why are you
> >>>> surprised?
> >>>>
> >>>> Why do you expect them to be null?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> p
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Best Regards,
> >>>>> Imad Hachem
> >>>>>
> >>>>> System Engineer
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >&

Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed

2009-11-17 Thread Pid Ster
On 18 Nov 2009, at 00:07, Imad Hachem  wrote:
> Dear Pid,
> find below my explanation:
>
> 1. Manually set an attribute (e.g. MANUAL_STOP=1) in application scope
> 2. Manually shutdown Tomcat instance.
> 3. Tomcat expires all sessions
> 4. Tomcat fires HttpSessionListener.sessionDestroyed for each session
> 5. custom code checks for, and finds, attribute (e.g. MANUAL_STOP=1)
>  if(MANUAL_STOP == null){  // Tomcat Cluster Node Shutdown
>
>//don't do anything
>
>  }
>
>  else{  //  case of session.invalidate or session timeout
>
>  6. custom code does logout per session
>  }
>
> 8. Tomcat fires ServletContextListener.contextDestroyed for each app
>
> But in fact, the variable MANUAL_STOP saved to the application scope
> is always coming as 1, even after tomcat cluster node shutdown which
> expected to come as null.

Yes. The value 1 is expected - you're not explaining why you think it
should be null.

p


>
>
>
> I need to know if my sessionDestroyed has been called from a
> session.invalidate Event OR session timeout OR Tomcat Cluster node
> shutdown.
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
> Imad Hachem
>
> System Engineer
>
>
>
>
>> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:23:16 +0000
>> From: p...@pidster.com
>> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
>> CC: ihac...@lb.path-solutions.com
>> Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node
>> shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed
>>
>> On 17/11/2009 16:11, Imad Hachem wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Pid,
>>>
>>> I am expecting them to come as null to know that the Tomcat Node
>>> (or context) has been shutdown.
>>
>> That makes no sense. These are the logical steps.
>>
>> 1. Manually set an attribute (e.g. MANUAL_STOP=1) in application
>> scope
>> 2. Manually shutdown Tomcat instance.
>> 3. Tomcat expires all sessions
>> 4. Tomcat fires HttpSessionListener.sessionDestroyed for each session
>> 5. custom code checks for, and finds, attribute (e.g. MANUAL_STOP=1)
>> 6. custom code does logout per session
>> 8. Tomcat fires ServletContextListener.contextDestroyed for each app
>>
>>
>> Perhaps you can explain, clearly, what you expect to happen and
>> where it
>> happens?
>>
>>
>> p
>>
>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Imad Hachem
>>>
>>> System Engineer
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:08:37 +
>>>> From: p...@pidster.com
>>>> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
>>>> CC: ihac...@lb.path-solutions.com
>>>> Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node
>>>> shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed
>>>>
>>>> On 17/11/2009 15:57, Imad Hachem wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Pid,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have tried to set application context variables, but it didn't
>>>>> worked, since I m expecting to get these variables as null
>>>>> values after node shutdown, but in fact they are coming as not
>>>>> null.
>>>>
>>>> If you set them as "not null" and they are "not null" why are you
>>>> surprised?
>>>>
>>>> Why do you expect them to be null?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> p
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>> Imad Hachem
>>>>>
>>>>> System Engineer
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:38:22 +
>>>>>> From: p...@pidster.com
>>>>>> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node
>>>>>> shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 17/11/2009 14:40, Ronald Klop wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Imad,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ronald. (The Ronald of the link mentioned by Pid.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did the code supplied therein, work for you Ronald?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @Imad
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Servlet Spec (and therefore Tomcat) doesn't differentiate
>>>>>> between
>>>>>> causes of session expiry.
>>>>

RE: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed

2009-11-17 Thread Imad Hachem

Dear Pid,

 

find below my explanation:

 

 1. Manually set an attribute (e.g. MANUAL_STOP=1) in application scope
 2. Manually shutdown Tomcat instance.
 3. Tomcat expires all sessions
 4. Tomcat fires HttpSessionListener.sessionDestroyed for each session
 5. custom code checks for, and finds, attribute (e.g. MANUAL_STOP=1)
  if(MANUAL_STOP == null){  // Tomcat Cluster Node Shutdown

//don't do anything

  }

  else{  //  case of session.invalidate or session timeout

  6. custom code does logout per session
  }

8. Tomcat fires ServletContextListener.contextDestroyed for each app


 

But in fact, the variable MANUAL_STOP saved to the application scope is always 
coming as 1, even after tomcat cluster node shutdown which expected to come as 
null.

 

I need to know if my sessionDestroyed has been called from a session.invalidate 
Event OR session timeout OR Tomcat Cluster node shutdown.



Best Regards,
Imad Hachem 

System Engineer 



 
> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:23:16 +
> From: p...@pidster.com
> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> CC: ihac...@lb.path-solutions.com
> Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, 
> sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed
> 
> On 17/11/2009 16:11, Imad Hachem wrote:
> >
> > Dear Pid,
> >
> > I am expecting them to come as null to know that the Tomcat Node (or 
> > context) has been shutdown.
> 
> That makes no sense. These are the logical steps.
> 
> 1. Manually set an attribute (e.g. MANUAL_STOP=1) in application scope
> 2. Manually shutdown Tomcat instance.
> 3. Tomcat expires all sessions
> 4. Tomcat fires HttpSessionListener.sessionDestroyed for each session
> 5. custom code checks for, and finds, attribute (e.g. MANUAL_STOP=1)
> 6. custom code does logout per session
> 8. Tomcat fires ServletContextListener.contextDestroyed for each app
> 
> 
> Perhaps you can explain, clearly, what you expect to happen and where it 
> happens?
> 
> 
> p
> 
> 
> > Best Regards,
> > Imad Hachem
> >
> > System Engineer
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:08:37 +0000
> >> From: p...@pidster.com
> >> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> >> CC: ihac...@lb.path-solutions.com
> >> Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, 
> >> sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed
> >>
> >> On 17/11/2009 15:57, Imad Hachem wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Dear Pid,
> >>>
> >>> I have tried to set application context variables, but it didn't worked, 
> >>> since I m expecting to get these variables as null values after node 
> >>> shutdown, but in fact they are coming as not null.
> >>
> >> If you set them as "not null" and they are "not null" why are you 
> >> surprised?
> >>
> >> Why do you expect them to be null?
> >>
> >>
> >> p
> >>
> >>
> >>> Best Regards,
> >>> Imad Hachem
> >>>
> >>> System Engineer
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:38:22 +
> >>>> From: p...@pidster.com
> >>>> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> >>>> Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node 
> >>>> shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed
> >>>>
> >>>> On 17/11/2009 14:40, Ronald Klop wrote:
> >>>>> Hi Imad,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ronald. (The Ronald of the link mentioned by Pid.)
> >>>>
> >>>> Did the code supplied therein, work for you Ronald?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> @Imad
> >>>>
> >>>> The Servlet Spec (and therefore Tomcat) doesn't differentiate between
> >>>> causes of session expiry.
> >>>>
> >>>> The code requires you to set a value in the application scope, then the
> >>>> HttpSessionListener sessionDestroyed method checks for that value.
> >>>>
> >>>> If the value is present, you initiated shutdown. If it is not, then
> >>>> it's probably a session expiry and you run your logout code.
> >>>>
> >>>> Did you actually set such an attribute?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> p
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Op dinsdag, 17 november 2009 14:36

Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed

2009-11-17 Thread Ronald Klop

@P
I didn't want to pollute my deployment process with this manual stuff. So I 
'solved' it different for our setup. I do not log users out on sessionDestroy. 
I only record that they are logged out. Which is overwritten by later logout 
events. So in the end the data is pretty ok. Not very nice, but nice enough for 
me.

Ronald.


Op dinsdag, 17 november 2009 16:38 schreef Pid :


 
On 17/11/2009 14:40, Ronald Klop wrote:

> Hi Imad,
 >
> Ronald. (The Ronald of the link mentioned by Pid.)

Did the code supplied therein, work for you Ronald?


@Imad

The Servlet Spec (and therefore Tomcat) doesn't differentiate between causes of 
session expiry.

The code requires you to set a value in the application scope, then the 
HttpSessionListener sessionDestroyed method checks for that value.

If the value is present, you initiated shutdown.  If it is not, then it's 
probably a session expiry and you run your logout code.

Did you actually set such an attribute?


p


> Op dinsdag, 17 november 2009 14:36 schreef Imad Hachem
> :
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Pid,
>>
>>
>>
>> I am running a Logout Process at each sessionDestroy.
>>
>>
>>
>> After applying the Cluster configuration, I don't want to Logout my
>> Users (or run this Logout Process) after any Tomcat Cluster node
>> shutdown, since the Session has been replicated to the other Node
>> Cluster.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Imad Hachem
>> System Engineer
>>
>>
>>
>> > From: p...@pidster.com
>> > Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:09:47 +
>> > Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node
>> shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed
>> > To: users@tomcat.apache.org
>> > > On 17 Nov 2009, at 12:11, Imad Hachem 
>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > Dear Pid,
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I have tried that code and didn't helped, note that my context &
>> > > session variables are not coming as null in order to rely on to be
>> > > able to differenciate between Tomcat Node shutdown &
>> > > session.invalidate().
>> > > I'm sorry but I don't understand what you're saying here.
>> > > Tomcat & the servlet api can't tell you the difference between an app
>> > shutdown and a session expiry without you writing code.
>> > > What did you try?
>> > > What was or wasn't null exactly?
>> > > p
>> > > > > Best Regards,
>> > > Imad Hachem
>> > >
>> > > System Engineer
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:41:20 +
>> > >> From: p...@pidster.com
>> > >> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
>> > >> Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node
>> > >> shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed
>> > >>
>> > >> On 17/11/2009 11:31, Imad Hachem wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Dear Pid,
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Thanks for your reply.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> But can you specify exactly which Servlets API method to use?
>> > >>
>> > >> The link I sent had some code in it, did you read it?
>> > >>
>> > >>> Note that Tomat-5.5.12 is deployed on Production environment and
>> > >>> we are not facing major issues.
>> > >>
>> > >> But you might be facing some security ones.
>> > >>
>> > >>> I will appreciate if you can adivse to which Tomcat Stable version
>> > >>> we should Migrate taking in consideration that Tomcat Cluster is
>> > >>> used in our environment as well.
>> > >>
>> > >> The latest: Tomcat 5.5.28. Same app, many bugfixes. Your version was
>> > >> released September 2005, over 4 years ago (that's 28 internet
>> years).
>> > >>
>> > >> It's not good practice to avoid upgrading for that long.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> p
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Best Regards,
>> > >>> Imad Hachem
>> > >>

Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed

2009-11-17 Thread Pid

On 17/11/2009 16:11, Imad Hachem wrote:


Dear Pid,

I am expecting them to come as null to know that the Tomcat Node (or context) 
has been shutdown.


That makes no sense.  These are the logical steps.

1. Manually set an attribute (e.g. MANUAL_STOP=1) in application scope
2. Manually shutdown Tomcat instance.
3. Tomcat expires all sessions
4. Tomcat fires HttpSessionListener.sessionDestroyed for each session
5. custom code checks for, and finds, attribute (e.g. MANUAL_STOP=1)
6. custom code does logout per session
8. Tomcat fires ServletContextListener.contextDestroyed for each app


Perhaps you can explain, clearly, what you expect to happen and where it 
happens?



p



Best Regards,
Imad Hachem

System Engineer





Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:08:37 +
From: p...@pidster.com
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
CC: ihac...@lb.path-solutions.com
Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, 
sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed

On 17/11/2009 15:57, Imad Hachem wrote:


Dear Pid,

I have tried to set application context variables, but it didn't worked, since 
I m expecting to get these variables as null values after node shutdown, but in 
fact they are coming as not null.


If you set them as "not null" and they are "not null" why are you surprised?

Why do you expect them to be null?


p



Best Regards,
Imad Hachem

System Engineer





Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:38:22 +
From: p...@pidster.com
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, 
sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed

On 17/11/2009 14:40, Ronald Klop wrote:

Hi Imad,

Ronald. (The Ronald of the link mentioned by Pid.)


Did the code supplied therein, work for you Ronald?


@Imad

The Servlet Spec (and therefore Tomcat) doesn't differentiate between
causes of session expiry.

The code requires you to set a value in the application scope, then the
HttpSessionListener sessionDestroyed method checks for that value.

If the value is present, you initiated shutdown. If it is not, then
it's probably a session expiry and you run your logout code.

Did you actually set such an attribute?


p



Op dinsdag, 17 november 2009 14:36 schreef Imad Hachem
:





Dear Pid,



I am running a Logout Process at each sessionDestroy.



After applying the Cluster configuration, I don't want to Logout my
Users (or run this Logout Process) after any Tomcat Cluster node
shutdown, since the Session has been replicated to the other Node
Cluster.





Best Regards,
Imad Hachem
System Engineer




From: p...@pidster.com
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:09:47 +
Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node

shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed

To: users@tomcat.apache.org

On 17 Nov 2009, at 12:11, Imad Hachem

wrote:



Dear Pid,



I have tried that code and didn't helped, note that my context&
session variables are not coming as null in order to rely on to be
able to differenciate between Tomcat Node shutdown&
session.invalidate().
I'm sorry but I don't understand what you're saying here.
Tomcat&  the servlet api can't tell you the difference between an app

shutdown and a session expiry without you writing code.

What did you try?
What was or wasn't null exactly?
p

Best Regards,

Imad Hachem

System Engineer





Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:41:20 +
From: p...@pidster.com
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node
shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed

On 17/11/2009 11:31, Imad Hachem wrote:


Dear Pid,

Thanks for your reply.

But can you specify exactly which Servlets API method to use?


The link I sent had some code in it, did you read it?


Note that Tomat-5.5.12 is deployed on Production environment and
we are not facing major issues.


But you might be facing some security ones.


I will appreciate if you can adivse to which Tomcat Stable version
we should Migrate taking in consideration that Tomcat Cluster is
used in our environment as well.


The latest: Tomcat 5.5.28. Same app, many bugfixes. Your version was
released September 2005, over 4 years ago (that's 28 internet

years).


It's not good practice to avoid upgrading for that long.


p









Best Regards,
Imad Hachem

System Engineer





Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:15:58 +0000
From: p...@pidster.com
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node
shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed

On 17/11/2009 04:14, Imad Hachem wrote:


Dear all,

I am using Tomcat-5.5.12 as Clustering nodes, and after one node
shutdown sessionDestroyed is called before contextDestroyed.


Are you still using 5.5.12? Hasn't anyone advised you to upgrade
to a
newer version yet?

I think it's perfectly reasonably to ca

RE: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed

2009-11-17 Thread Imad Hachem

Dear Pid,

 

I am expecting them to come as null to know that the Tomcat Node (or context) 
has been shutdown.

 



Best Regards,
Imad Hachem 

System Engineer 



 
> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:08:37 +
> From: p...@pidster.com
> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> CC: ihac...@lb.path-solutions.com
> Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, 
> sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed
> 
> On 17/11/2009 15:57, Imad Hachem wrote:
> >
> > Dear Pid,
> >
> > I have tried to set application context variables, but it didn't worked, 
> > since I m expecting to get these variables as null values after node 
> > shutdown, but in fact they are coming as not null.
> 
> If you set them as "not null" and they are "not null" why are you surprised?
> 
> Why do you expect them to be null?
> 
> 
> p
> 
> 
> > Best Regards,
> > Imad Hachem
> >
> > System Engineer
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:38:22 +0000
> >> From: p...@pidster.com
> >> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, 
> >> sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed
> >>
> >> On 17/11/2009 14:40, Ronald Klop wrote:
> >>> Hi Imad,
> >>>
> >>> Ronald. (The Ronald of the link mentioned by Pid.)
> >>
> >> Did the code supplied therein, work for you Ronald?
> >>
> >>
> >> @Imad
> >>
> >> The Servlet Spec (and therefore Tomcat) doesn't differentiate between
> >> causes of session expiry.
> >>
> >> The code requires you to set a value in the application scope, then the
> >> HttpSessionListener sessionDestroyed method checks for that value.
> >>
> >> If the value is present, you initiated shutdown. If it is not, then
> >> it's probably a session expiry and you run your logout code.
> >>
> >> Did you actually set such an attribute?
> >>
> >>
> >> p
> >>
> >>
> >>> Op dinsdag, 17 november 2009 14:36 schreef Imad Hachem
> >>> :
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Dear Pid,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I am running a Logout Process at each sessionDestroy.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> After applying the Cluster configuration, I don't want to Logout my
> >>>> Users (or run this Logout Process) after any Tomcat Cluster node
> >>>> shutdown, since the Session has been replicated to the other Node
> >>>> Cluster.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Best Regards,
> >>>> Imad Hachem
> >>>> System Engineer
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> From: p...@pidster.com
> >>>>> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:09:47 +
> >>>>> Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node
> >>>> shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed
> >>>>> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> >>>>>> On 17 Nov 2009, at 12:11, Imad Hachem
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> Dear Pid,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have tried that code and didn't helped, note that my context&
> >>>>>> session variables are not coming as null in order to rely on to be
> >>>>>> able to differenciate between Tomcat Node shutdown&
> >>>>>> session.invalidate().
> >>>>>> I'm sorry but I don't understand what you're saying here.
> >>>>>> Tomcat& the servlet api can't tell you the difference between an app
> >>>>> shutdown and a session expiry without you writing code.
> >>>>>> What did you try?
> >>>>>> What was or wasn't null exactly?
> >>>>>> p
> >>>>>>>> Best Regards,
> >>>>>> Imad Hachem
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> System Engineer
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
&

Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed

2009-11-17 Thread Pid

On 17/11/2009 15:57, Imad Hachem wrote:


Dear Pid,

I have tried to set application context variables, but it didn't worked, since 
I m expecting to get these variables as null values after node shutdown, but in 
fact they are coming as not null.


If you set them as "not null" and they are "not null" why are you surprised?

Why do you expect them to be null?


p



Best Regards,
Imad Hachem

System Engineer





Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:38:22 +
From: p...@pidster.com
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, 
sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed

On 17/11/2009 14:40, Ronald Klop wrote:

Hi Imad,

Ronald. (The Ronald of the link mentioned by Pid.)


Did the code supplied therein, work for you Ronald?


@Imad

The Servlet Spec (and therefore Tomcat) doesn't differentiate between
causes of session expiry.

The code requires you to set a value in the application scope, then the
HttpSessionListener sessionDestroyed method checks for that value.

If the value is present, you initiated shutdown. If it is not, then
it's probably a session expiry and you run your logout code.

Did you actually set such an attribute?


p



Op dinsdag, 17 november 2009 14:36 schreef Imad Hachem
:





Dear Pid,



I am running a Logout Process at each sessionDestroy.



After applying the Cluster configuration, I don't want to Logout my
Users (or run this Logout Process) after any Tomcat Cluster node
shutdown, since the Session has been replicated to the other Node
Cluster.





Best Regards,
Imad Hachem
System Engineer




From: p...@pidster.com
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:09:47 +
Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node

shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed

To: users@tomcat.apache.org

On 17 Nov 2009, at 12:11, Imad Hachem

wrote:



Dear Pid,



I have tried that code and didn't helped, note that my context&
session variables are not coming as null in order to rely on to be
able to differenciate between Tomcat Node shutdown&
session.invalidate().
I'm sorry but I don't understand what you're saying here.
Tomcat&  the servlet api can't tell you the difference between an app

shutdown and a session expiry without you writing code.

What did you try?
What was or wasn't null exactly?
p

Best Regards,

Imad Hachem

System Engineer





Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:41:20 +
From: p...@pidster.com
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node
shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed

On 17/11/2009 11:31, Imad Hachem wrote:


Dear Pid,

Thanks for your reply.

But can you specify exactly which Servlets API method to use?


The link I sent had some code in it, did you read it?


Note that Tomat-5.5.12 is deployed on Production environment and
we are not facing major issues.


But you might be facing some security ones.


I will appreciate if you can adivse to which Tomcat Stable version
we should Migrate taking in consideration that Tomcat Cluster is
used in our environment as well.


The latest: Tomcat 5.5.28. Same app, many bugfixes. Your version was
released September 2005, over 4 years ago (that's 28 internet

years).


It's not good practice to avoid upgrading for that long.


p









Best Regards,
Imad Hachem

System Engineer





Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:15:58 +0000
From: p...@pidster.com
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node
shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed

On 17/11/2009 04:14, Imad Hachem wrote:


Dear all,

I am using Tomcat-5.5.12 as Clustering nodes, and after one node
shutdown sessionDestroyed is called before contextDestroyed.


Are you still using 5.5.12? Hasn't anyone advised you to upgrade
to a
newer version yet?

I think it's perfectly reasonably to call sessionDestroyed()

before

contextDestroyed().


How can I know if sessionDestroyed is called from
session.invalidate()
from the real expiration of the session or shutdown of one
cluster node?


You can't know this directly from the Servlet API methods.


Note that on sessionDestroyed event, I am using a Logout
behavior to
logout my users from the DATABASE.

I have tried to set a KEY on the context (or application scope)
to check
on it during the sessionDestroyed event, but it seems the
context is
destroyed after the session destroy event.


This comes up not infrequently on the list, the archives have more
information:



http://old.nabble.com/Re%3A-sessionListener.sessionDestroyed-is-called-on-shutdown-of-a-node-in-the-cluster-p16746969.html




Is there any event listener that I can use before the
sessionDestroyed to differentiate if one cluster node has been
shutdown or my session has been expired?

Or is how to configure the contextDestroy to be called before
the sessions

RE: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed

2009-11-17 Thread Imad Hachem

Dear Pid,

 

I have tried to set application context variables, but it didn't worked, since 
I m expecting to get these variables as null values after node shutdown, but in 
fact they are coming as not null.

 



Best Regards,
Imad Hachem 

System Engineer 



 
> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:38:22 +
> From: p...@pidster.com
> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, 
> sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed
> 
> On 17/11/2009 14:40, Ronald Klop wrote:
> > Hi Imad,
> >
> > Ronald. (The Ronald of the link mentioned by Pid.)
> 
> Did the code supplied therein, work for you Ronald?
> 
> 
> @Imad
> 
> The Servlet Spec (and therefore Tomcat) doesn't differentiate between 
> causes of session expiry.
> 
> The code requires you to set a value in the application scope, then the 
> HttpSessionListener sessionDestroyed method checks for that value.
> 
> If the value is present, you initiated shutdown. If it is not, then 
> it's probably a session expiry and you run your logout code.
> 
> Did you actually set such an attribute?
> 
> 
> p
> 
> 
> > Op dinsdag, 17 november 2009 14:36 schreef Imad Hachem
> > :
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Dear Pid,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I am running a Logout Process at each sessionDestroy.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> After applying the Cluster configuration, I don't want to Logout my
> >> Users (or run this Logout Process) after any Tomcat Cluster node
> >> shutdown, since the Session has been replicated to the other Node
> >> Cluster.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Best Regards,
> >> Imad Hachem
> >> System Engineer
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > From: p...@pidster.com
> >> > Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:09:47 +
> >> > Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node
> >> shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed
> >> > To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> >> > > On 17 Nov 2009, at 12:11, Imad Hachem 
> >> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > Dear Pid,
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > I have tried that code and didn't helped, note that my context &
> >> > > session variables are not coming as null in order to rely on to be
> >> > > able to differenciate between Tomcat Node shutdown &
> >> > > session.invalidate().
> >> > > I'm sorry but I don't understand what you're saying here.
> >> > > Tomcat & the servlet api can't tell you the difference between an app
> >> > shutdown and a session expiry without you writing code.
> >> > > What did you try?
> >> > > What was or wasn't null exactly?
> >> > > p
> >> > > > > Best Regards,
> >> > > Imad Hachem
> >> > >
> >> > > System Engineer
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:41:20 +
> >> > >> From: p...@pidster.com
> >> > >> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> >> > >> Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node
> >> > >> shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On 17/11/2009 11:31, Imad Hachem wrote:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Dear Pid,
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Thanks for your reply.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> But can you specify exactly which Servlets API method to use?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> The link I sent had some code in it, did you read it?
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> Note that Tomat-5.5.12 is deployed on Production environment and
> >> > >>> we are not facing major issues.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> But you might be facing some security ones.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> I will appreciate if you can adivse to which Tomcat Stable version
> >> > >>> we should Migrate taking in consideration that Tomcat Cluster is
> >> > >>> used in our environment as well.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> The

Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed

2009-11-17 Thread Pid

On 17/11/2009 14:40, Ronald Klop wrote:

Hi Imad,

>

Ronald. (The Ronald of the link mentioned by Pid.)


Did the code supplied therein, work for you Ronald?


@Imad

The Servlet Spec (and therefore Tomcat) doesn't differentiate between 
causes of session expiry.


The code requires you to set a value in the application scope, then the 
HttpSessionListener sessionDestroyed method checks for that value.


If the value is present, you initiated shutdown.  If it is not, then 
it's probably a session expiry and you run your logout code.


Did you actually set such an attribute?


p



Op dinsdag, 17 november 2009 14:36 schreef Imad Hachem
:





Dear Pid,



I am running a Logout Process at each sessionDestroy.



After applying the Cluster configuration, I don't want to Logout my
Users (or run this Logout Process) after any Tomcat Cluster node
shutdown, since the Session has been replicated to the other Node
Cluster.





Best Regards,
Imad Hachem
System Engineer



> From: p...@pidster.com
> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:09:47 +0000
> Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node
shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed
> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> > On 17 Nov 2009, at 12:11, Imad Hachem 
wrote:
> > >
> > Dear Pid,
> >
> >
> >
> > I have tried that code and didn't helped, note that my context &
> > session variables are not coming as null in order to rely on to be
> > able to differenciate between Tomcat Node shutdown &
> > session.invalidate().
> > I'm sorry but I don't understand what you're saying here.
> > Tomcat & the servlet api can't tell you the difference between an app
> shutdown and a session expiry without you writing code.
> > What did you try?
> > What was or wasn't null exactly?
> > p
> > > > Best Regards,
> > Imad Hachem
> >
> > System Engineer
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:41:20 +
> >> From: p...@pidster.com
> >> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node
> >> shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed
> >>
> >> On 17/11/2009 11:31, Imad Hachem wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Dear Pid,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for your reply.
> >>>
> >>> But can you specify exactly which Servlets API method to use?
> >>
> >> The link I sent had some code in it, did you read it?
> >>
> >>> Note that Tomat-5.5.12 is deployed on Production environment and
> >>> we are not facing major issues.
> >>
> >> But you might be facing some security ones.
> >>
> >>> I will appreciate if you can adivse to which Tomcat Stable version
> >>> we should Migrate taking in consideration that Tomcat Cluster is
> >>> used in our environment as well.
> >>
> >> The latest: Tomcat 5.5.28. Same app, many bugfixes. Your version was
> >> released September 2005, over 4 years ago (that's 28 internet
years).
> >>
> >> It's not good practice to avoid upgrading for that long.
> >>
> >>
> >> p
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Best Regards,
> >>> Imad Hachem
> >>>
> >>> System Engineer
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:15:58 +
> >>>> From: p...@pidster.com
> >>>> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> >>>> Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node
> >>>> shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed
> >>>>
> >>>> On 17/11/2009 04:14, Imad Hachem wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dear all,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I am using Tomcat-5.5.12 as Clustering nodes, and after one node
> >>>>> shutdown sessionDestroyed is called before contextDestroyed.
> >>>>
> >>>> Are you still using 5.5.12? Hasn't anyone advised you to upgrade
> >>>> to a
> >>>> newer version yet?
> >>>>
> >>>> I think it's perfectly reasonably to call sessionDestroyed()
before
> >>>> contextDestroyed().
> >>>>
> >>>>> How can I know if sessionDestroyed is called from
> >>>>> session.invalidate()
> >>>>> from th

RE: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed

2009-11-17 Thread Ronald Klop

Hi Imad,

You can do everything you like, but it will all be dirty.
1. Set a global variable in your webapp before shutdown of a node. To see If it 
is a planned shutdown or not.
2. Keep references about the nr. of clusternodes yourself. Can be done quite 
cleanly with JMX.
3. Do not really logout the user. Only mark a logout time. If another node 
shuts down or the user really logs out it will overwrite the logout time. And 
in the end the data is quite correct. (This is what I do.)

Everything as pros and cons. Be creative. (I would like to here what works for 
you.)


But the developers of Tomcat think of it as invalidating the Session object (as 
in java Object) and you and me see it as invalidating the session of the user.


This phrase was not very accurate. I meant destroy in stead of invalidating. 
Because those are different things.

Ronald.


Op dinsdag, 17 november 2009 16:23 schreef Imad Hachem 
:


 



Hi Ronald,

 


Thanks for your reply.

 


So, what 's the solution in my Case?

 


I need to differentiate between Tomat Cluster node shutdown and 
session.invalidate and session Timout?

 


Is that Possible as configuration or Programming ?

 

 




Best Regards,
Imad Hachem 

System Engineer 




 
> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:40:30 +0100

> From: ronald-mailingl...@base.nl
> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> Subject: RE: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, 
sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed
> 
> Hi Imad,
> 
> I think also that Tomcat should only invalidate the Session on shutdown if it is the last node in the cluster.

> But the developers of Tomcat think of it as invalidating the Session object 
(as in java Object) and you and me see it as invalidating the session of the user.
> 
> Ronald. (The Ronald of the link mentioned by Pid.)
> 
> 
> Op dinsdag, 17 november 2009 14:36 schreef Imad Hachem :
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Dear Pid,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I am running a Logout Process at each sessionDestroy.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > After applying the Cluster configuration, I don't want to Logout my Users (or run this Logout Process) after any Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, since the Session has been replicated to the other Node Cluster.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Best Regards,
> > Imad Hachem 
> > 
> > System Engineer 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > From: p...@pidster.com

> > > Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:09:47 +
> > > Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, 
sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed
> > > To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> > > 
> > > On 17 Nov 2009, at 12:11, Imad Hachem  wrote:
> > > 
> > > >

> > > > Dear Pid,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have tried that code and didn't helped, note that my context &
> > > > session variables are not coming as null in order to rely on to be
> > > > able to differenciate between Tomcat Node shutdown &
> > > > session.invalidate().
> > > 
> > > I'm sorry but I don't understand what you're saying here.
> > > 
> > > Tomcat & the servlet api can't tell you the difference between an app

> > > shutdown and a session expiry without you writing code.
> > > 
> > > What did you try?
> > > 
> > > What was or wasn't null exactly?
> > > 
> > > p
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Best Regards,

> > > > Imad Hachem
> > > >
> > > > System Engineer
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:41:20 +
> > > >> From: p...@pidster.com
> > > >> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> > > >> Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node
> > > >> shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed
> > > >>
> > > >> On 17/11/2009 11:31, Imad Hachem wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Dear Pid,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks for your reply.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> But can you specify exactly which Servlets API method to use?
> > > >>
> > > >> The link I sent had some code in it, did you read it?
> > > >>
> > > >>> Note that Tomat-5.5.12 is deployed on Production environment and
> > > >>> we are not facing major issues.
> > > >>
> > > >

RE: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed

2009-11-17 Thread Imad Hachem

Hi Ronald,

 

Thanks for your reply.

 

So, what 's the solution in my Case?

 

I need to differentiate between Tomat Cluster node shutdown and 
session.invalidate and session Timout?

 

Is that Possible as configuration or Programming ?

 

 



Best Regards,
Imad Hachem 

System Engineer 



 
> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:40:30 +0100
> From: ronald-mailingl...@base.nl
> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> Subject: RE: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, 
> sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed
> 
> Hi Imad,
> 
> I think also that Tomcat should only invalidate the Session on shutdown if it 
> is the last node in the cluster.
> But the developers of Tomcat think of it as invalidating the Session object 
> (as in java Object) and you and me see it as invalidating the session of the 
> user.
> 
> Ronald. (The Ronald of the link mentioned by Pid.)
> 
> 
> Op dinsdag, 17 november 2009 14:36 schreef Imad Hachem 
> :
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Dear Pid,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I am running a Logout Process at each sessionDestroy.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > After applying the Cluster configuration, I don't want to Logout my Users 
> > (or run this Logout Process) after any Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, since 
> > the Session has been replicated to the other Node Cluster.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Best Regards,
> > Imad Hachem 
> > 
> > System Engineer 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > From: p...@pidster.com
> > > Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:09:47 +
> > > Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, 
> > > sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed
> > > To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> > > 
> > > On 17 Nov 2009, at 12:11, Imad Hachem  wrote:
> > > 
> > > >
> > > > Dear Pid,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have tried that code and didn't helped, note that my context &
> > > > session variables are not coming as null in order to rely on to be
> > > > able to differenciate between Tomcat Node shutdown &
> > > > session.invalidate().
> > > 
> > > I'm sorry but I don't understand what you're saying here.
> > > 
> > > Tomcat & the servlet api can't tell you the difference between an app
> > > shutdown and a session expiry without you writing code.
> > > 
> > > What did you try?
> > > 
> > > What was or wasn't null exactly?
> > > 
> > > p
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > > Imad Hachem
> > > >
> > > > System Engineer
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:41:20 +
> > > >> From: p...@pidster.com
> > > >> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> > > >> Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node
> > > >> shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed
> > > >>
> > > >> On 17/11/2009 11:31, Imad Hachem wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Dear Pid,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks for your reply.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> But can you specify exactly which Servlets API method to use?
> > > >>
> > > >> The link I sent had some code in it, did you read it?
> > > >>
> > > >>> Note that Tomat-5.5.12 is deployed on Production environment and
> > > >>> we are not facing major issues.
> > > >>
> > > >> But you might be facing some security ones.
> > > >>
> > > >>> I will appreciate if you can adivse to which Tomcat Stable version
> > > >>> we should Migrate taking in consideration that Tomcat Cluster is
> > > >>> used in our environment as well.
> > > >>
> > > >> The latest: Tomcat 5.5.28. Same app, many bugfixes. Your version was
> > > >> released September 2005, over 4 years ago (that's 28 internet years).
> > > >>
> > > >> It's not good practice to avoid upgrading for that long.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> p
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >&g

RE: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed

2009-11-17 Thread Ronald Klop

Hi Imad,

I think also that Tomcat should only invalidate the Session on shutdown if it 
is the last node in the cluster.
But the developers of Tomcat think of it as invalidating the Session object (as 
in java Object) and you and me see it as invalidating the session of the user.

Ronald. (The Ronald of the link mentioned by Pid.)


Op dinsdag, 17 november 2009 14:36 schreef Imad Hachem 
:


 



Dear Pid,

 


I am running a Logout Process at each sessionDestroy.

 


After applying the Cluster configuration,  I don't want to Logout my Users (or 
run this Logout Process) after any Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, since the 
Session has been replicated to the other Node Cluster.

 




Best Regards,
Imad Hachem 

System Engineer 




 
> From: p...@pidster.com

> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:09:47 +
> Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, 
sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed
> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> 
> On 17 Nov 2009, at 12:11, Imad Hachem  wrote:
> 
> >

> > Dear Pid,
> >
> >
> >
> > I have tried that code and didn't helped, note that my context &
> > session variables are not coming as null in order to rely on to be
> > able to differenciate between Tomcat Node shutdown &
> > session.invalidate().
> 
> I'm sorry but I don't understand what you're saying here.
> 
> Tomcat & the servlet api can't tell you the difference between an app

> shutdown and a session expiry without you writing code.
> 
> What did you try?
> 
> What was or wasn't null exactly?
> 
> p
> 
> 
> > Best Regards,

> > Imad Hachem
> >
> > System Engineer
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:41:20 +
> >> From: p...@pidster.com
> >> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node
> >> shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed
> >>
> >> On 17/11/2009 11:31, Imad Hachem wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Dear Pid,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for your reply.
> >>>
> >>> But can you specify exactly which Servlets API method to use?
> >>
> >> The link I sent had some code in it, did you read it?
> >>
> >>> Note that Tomat-5.5.12 is deployed on Production environment and
> >>> we are not facing major issues.
> >>
> >> But you might be facing some security ones.
> >>
> >>> I will appreciate if you can adivse to which Tomcat Stable version
> >>> we should Migrate taking in consideration that Tomcat Cluster is
> >>> used in our environment as well.
> >>
> >> The latest: Tomcat 5.5.28. Same app, many bugfixes. Your version was
> >> released September 2005, over 4 years ago (that's 28 internet years).
> >>
> >> It's not good practice to avoid upgrading for that long.
> >>
> >>
> >> p
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Best Regards,
> >>> Imad Hachem
> >>>
> >>> System Engineer
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:15:58 +
> >>>> From: p...@pidster.com
> >>>> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> >>>> Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node
> >>>> shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed
> >>>>
> >>>> On 17/11/2009 04:14, Imad Hachem wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dear all,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I am using Tomcat-5.5.12 as Clustering nodes, and after one node
> >>>>> shutdown sessionDestroyed is called before contextDestroyed.
> >>>>
> >>>> Are you still using 5.5.12? Hasn't anyone advised you to upgrade
> >>>> to a
> >>>> newer version yet?
> >>>>
> >>>> I think it's perfectly reasonably to call sessionDestroyed() before
> >>>> contextDestroyed().
> >>>>
> >>>>> How can I know if sessionDestroyed is called from
> >>>>> session.invalidate()
> >>>>> from the real expiration of the session or shutdown of one
> >>>>> cluster node?
> >>>>
> >>>> You can't know this directly from the Servlet API methods.
> >>>&

RE: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed

2009-11-17 Thread Imad Hachem

Dear Pid,

 

I am running a Logout Process at each sessionDestroy.

 

After applying the Cluster configuration,  I don't want to Logout my Users (or 
run this Logout Process) after any Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, since the 
Session has been replicated to the other Node Cluster.

 



Best Regards,
Imad Hachem 

System Engineer 



 
> From: p...@pidster.com
> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:09:47 +
> Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, 
> sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed
> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> 
> On 17 Nov 2009, at 12:11, Imad Hachem  wrote:
> 
> >
> > Dear Pid,
> >
> >
> >
> > I have tried that code and didn't helped, note that my context &
> > session variables are not coming as null in order to rely on to be
> > able to differenciate between Tomcat Node shutdown &
> > session.invalidate().
> 
> I'm sorry but I don't understand what you're saying here.
> 
> Tomcat & the servlet api can't tell you the difference between an app
> shutdown and a session expiry without you writing code.
> 
> What did you try?
> 
> What was or wasn't null exactly?
> 
> p
> 
> 
> > Best Regards,
> > Imad Hachem
> >
> > System Engineer
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:41:20 +
> >> From: p...@pidster.com
> >> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node
> >> shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed
> >>
> >> On 17/11/2009 11:31, Imad Hachem wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Dear Pid,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for your reply.
> >>>
> >>> But can you specify exactly which Servlets API method to use?
> >>
> >> The link I sent had some code in it, did you read it?
> >>
> >>> Note that Tomat-5.5.12 is deployed on Production environment and
> >>> we are not facing major issues.
> >>
> >> But you might be facing some security ones.
> >>
> >>> I will appreciate if you can adivse to which Tomcat Stable version
> >>> we should Migrate taking in consideration that Tomcat Cluster is
> >>> used in our environment as well.
> >>
> >> The latest: Tomcat 5.5.28. Same app, many bugfixes. Your version was
> >> released September 2005, over 4 years ago (that's 28 internet years).
> >>
> >> It's not good practice to avoid upgrading for that long.
> >>
> >>
> >> p
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Best Regards,
> >>> Imad Hachem
> >>>
> >>> System Engineer
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:15:58 +
> >>>> From: p...@pidster.com
> >>>> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> >>>> Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node
> >>>> shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed
> >>>>
> >>>> On 17/11/2009 04:14, Imad Hachem wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dear all,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I am using Tomcat-5.5.12 as Clustering nodes, and after one node
> >>>>> shutdown sessionDestroyed is called before contextDestroyed.
> >>>>
> >>>> Are you still using 5.5.12? Hasn't anyone advised you to upgrade
> >>>> to a
> >>>> newer version yet?
> >>>>
> >>>> I think it's perfectly reasonably to call sessionDestroyed() before
> >>>> contextDestroyed().
> >>>>
> >>>>> How can I know if sessionDestroyed is called from
> >>>>> session.invalidate()
> >>>>> from the real expiration of the session or shutdown of one
> >>>>> cluster node?
> >>>>
> >>>> You can't know this directly from the Servlet API methods.
> >>>>
> >>>>> Note that on sessionDestroyed event, I am using a Logout
> >>>>> behavior to
> >>>>> logout my users from the DATABASE.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have tried to set a KEY on the context (or application scope)
> >>>>> to check
> >>>>> on it during the sessionDe

Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed

2009-11-17 Thread Pid Ster
On 17 Nov 2009, at 12:11, Imad Hachem  wrote:

>
> Dear Pid,
>
>
>
> I have tried that code and didn't helped, note that my context &
> session variables are not coming as null in order to rely on to be
> able to differenciate between Tomcat Node shutdown &
> session.invalidate().

I'm sorry but I don't understand what you're saying here.

Tomcat & the servlet api can't tell you the difference between an app
shutdown and a session expiry without you writing code.

What did you try?

What was or wasn't null exactly?

p


> Best Regards,
> Imad Hachem
>
> System Engineer
>
>
>
>
>> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:41:20 +
>> From: p...@pidster.com
>> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node
>> shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed
>>
>> On 17/11/2009 11:31, Imad Hachem wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Pid,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your reply.
>>>
>>> But can you specify exactly which Servlets API method to use?
>>
>> The link I sent had some code in it, did you read it?
>>
>>> Note that Tomat-5.5.12 is deployed on Production environment and
>>> we are not facing major issues.
>>
>> But you might be facing some security ones.
>>
>>> I will appreciate if you can adivse to which Tomcat Stable version
>>> we should Migrate taking in consideration that Tomcat Cluster is
>>> used in our environment as well.
>>
>> The latest: Tomcat 5.5.28. Same app, many bugfixes. Your version was
>> released September 2005, over 4 years ago (that's 28 internet years).
>>
>> It's not good practice to avoid upgrading for that long.
>>
>>
>> p
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Imad Hachem
>>>
>>> System Engineer
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:15:58 +
>>>> From: p...@pidster.com
>>>> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node
>>>> shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed
>>>>
>>>> On 17/11/2009 04:14, Imad Hachem wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am using Tomcat-5.5.12 as Clustering nodes, and after one node
>>>>> shutdown sessionDestroyed is called before contextDestroyed.
>>>>
>>>> Are you still using 5.5.12? Hasn't anyone advised you to upgrade
>>>> to a
>>>> newer version yet?
>>>>
>>>> I think it's perfectly reasonably to call sessionDestroyed() before
>>>> contextDestroyed().
>>>>
>>>>> How can I know if sessionDestroyed is called from
>>>>> session.invalidate()
>>>>> from the real expiration of the session or shutdown of one
>>>>> cluster node?
>>>>
>>>> You can't know this directly from the Servlet API methods.
>>>>
>>>>> Note that on sessionDestroyed event, I am using a Logout
>>>>> behavior to
>>>>> logout my users from the DATABASE.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have tried to set a KEY on the context (or application scope)
>>>>> to check
>>>>> on it during the sessionDestroyed event, but it seems the
>>>>> context is
>>>>> destroyed after the session destroy event.
>>>>
>>>> This comes up not infrequently on the list, the archives have more
>>>> information:
>>>>
>>>> http://old.nabble.com/Re%3A-sessionListener.sessionDestroyed-is-called-on-shutdown-of-a-node-in-the-cluster-p16746969.html
>>>>
>>>>> Is there any event listener that I can use before the
>>>>> sessionDestroyed to differentiate if one cluster node has been
>>>>> shutdown or my session has been expired?
>>>>>
>>>>> Or is how to configure the contextDestroy to be called before
>>>>> the sessions destroy?
>>>>
>>>> No, contextDestroyed() means that the web application itself has
>>>> been
>>>> stopped, this is mandated by the Servlet Spec.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> p
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance for your help.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>

RE: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed

2009-11-17 Thread Imad Hachem

Dear Pid,

 

I have tried that code and didn't helped, note that my context & session 
variables are not coming as null in order to rely on to be able to 
differenciate between Tomcat Node shutdown & session.invalidate().

 

 



Best Regards,
Imad Hachem 

System Engineer 



 
> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:41:20 +
> From: p...@pidster.com
> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, 
> sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed
> 
> On 17/11/2009 11:31, Imad Hachem wrote:
> >
> > Dear Pid,
> >
> > Thanks for your reply.
> >
> > But can you specify exactly which Servlets API method to use?
> 
> The link I sent had some code in it, did you read it?
> 
> > Note that Tomat-5.5.12 is deployed on Production environment and we are not 
> > facing major issues.
> 
> But you might be facing some security ones.
> 
> > I will appreciate if you can adivse to which Tomcat Stable version we 
> > should Migrate taking in consideration that Tomcat Cluster is used in our 
> > environment as well.
> 
> The latest: Tomcat 5.5.28. Same app, many bugfixes. Your version was 
> released September 2005, over 4 years ago (that's 28 internet years).
> 
> It's not good practice to avoid upgrading for that long.
> 
> 
> p
> 
> 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Imad Hachem
> >
> > System Engineer
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:15:58 +
> >> From: p...@pidster.com
> >> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, 
> >> sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed
> >>
> >> On 17/11/2009 04:14, Imad Hachem wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Dear all,
> >>>
> >>> I am using Tomcat-5.5.12 as Clustering nodes, and after one node
> >>> shutdown sessionDestroyed is called before contextDestroyed.
> >>
> >> Are you still using 5.5.12? Hasn't anyone advised you to upgrade to a
> >> newer version yet?
> >>
> >> I think it's perfectly reasonably to call sessionDestroyed() before
> >> contextDestroyed().
> >>
> >>> How can I know if sessionDestroyed is called from session.invalidate()
> >>> from the real expiration of the session or shutdown of one cluster node?
> >>
> >> You can't know this directly from the Servlet API methods.
> >>
> >>> Note that on sessionDestroyed event, I am using a Logout behavior to
> >>> logout my users from the DATABASE.
> >>>
> >>> I have tried to set a KEY on the context (or application scope) to check
> >>> on it during the sessionDestroyed event, but it seems the context is
> >>> destroyed after the session destroy event.
> >>
> >> This comes up not infrequently on the list, the archives have more
> >> information:
> >>
> >> http://old.nabble.com/Re%3A-sessionListener.sessionDestroyed-is-called-on-shutdown-of-a-node-in-the-cluster-p16746969.html
> >>
> >>> Is there any event listener that I can use before the sessionDestroyed to 
> >>> differentiate if one cluster node has been shutdown or my session has 
> >>> been expired?
> >>>
> >>> Or is how to configure the contextDestroy to be called before the 
> >>> sessions destroy?
> >>
> >> No, contextDestroyed() means that the web application itself has been
> >> stopped, this is mandated by the Servlet Spec.
> >>
> >>
> >> p
> >>
> >>
> >>> Thanks in advance for your help.
> >>>
> >>> Best Regards,
> >>> Imad Hachem
> >>>
> >>> System Engineer
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed

2009-11-17 Thread Pid

On 17/11/2009 11:31, Imad Hachem wrote:


Dear Pid,

Thanks for your reply.

>

But can you specify exactly which Servlets API method to use?


The link I sent had some code in it, did you read it?


Note that Tomat-5.5.12 is deployed on Production environment and we are not 
facing major issues.


But you might be facing some security ones.


I will appreciate if you can adivse to which Tomcat Stable version we should 
Migrate taking in consideration that Tomcat Cluster is used in our environment 
as well.


The latest: Tomcat 5.5.28.  Same app, many bugfixes.  Your version was 
released September 2005, over 4 years ago (that's 28 internet years).


It's not good practice to avoid upgrading for that long.


p









Best Regards,
Imad Hachem

System Engineer





Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:15:58 +
From: p...@pidster.com
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, 
sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed

On 17/11/2009 04:14, Imad Hachem wrote:


Dear all,

I am using Tomcat-5.5.12 as Clustering nodes, and after one node
shutdown sessionDestroyed is called before contextDestroyed.


Are you still using 5.5.12? Hasn't anyone advised you to upgrade to a
newer version yet?

I think it's perfectly reasonably to call sessionDestroyed() before
contextDestroyed().


How can I know if sessionDestroyed is called from session.invalidate()
from the real expiration of the session or shutdown of one cluster node?


You can't know this directly from the Servlet API methods.


Note that on sessionDestroyed event, I am using a Logout behavior to
logout my users from the DATABASE.

I have tried to set a KEY on the context (or application scope) to check
on it during the sessionDestroyed event, but it seems the context is
destroyed after the session destroy event.


This comes up not infrequently on the list, the archives have more
information:

http://old.nabble.com/Re%3A-sessionListener.sessionDestroyed-is-called-on-shutdown-of-a-node-in-the-cluster-p16746969.html


Is there any event listener that I can use before the sessionDestroyed to 
differentiate if one cluster node has been shutdown or my session has been 
expired?

Or is how to configure the contextDestroy to be called before the sessions 
destroy?


No, contextDestroyed() means that the web application itself has been
stopped, this is mandated by the Servlet Spec.


p



Thanks in advance for your help.

Best Regards,
Imad Hachem

System Engineer



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RE: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed

2009-11-17 Thread Imad Hachem

Dear Pid,

 

Thanks for your reply.

 

But can you specify exactly which Servlets API method to use?

 

Note that Tomat-5.5.12 is deployed on Production environment and we are not 
facing major issues.

 

I will appreciate if you can adivse to which Tomcat Stable version we should 
Migrate taking in consideration that Tomcat Cluster is used in our environment 
as well.

 

 



Best Regards,
Imad Hachem 

System Engineer 



 
> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:15:58 +
> From: p...@pidster.com
> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> Subject: Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, 
> sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed
> 
> On 17/11/2009 04:14, Imad Hachem wrote:
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I am using Tomcat-5.5.12 as Clustering nodes, and after one node
> > shutdown sessionDestroyed is called before contextDestroyed.
> 
> Are you still using 5.5.12? Hasn't anyone advised you to upgrade to a 
> newer version yet?
> 
> I think it's perfectly reasonably to call sessionDestroyed() before 
> contextDestroyed().
> 
> > How can I know if sessionDestroyed is called from session.invalidate()
> > from the real expiration of the session or shutdown of one cluster node?
> 
> You can't know this directly from the Servlet API methods.
> 
> > Note that on sessionDestroyed event, I am using a Logout behavior to
> > logout my users from the DATABASE.
> >
> > I have tried to set a KEY on the context (or application scope) to check
> > on it during the sessionDestroyed event, but it seems the context is
> > destroyed after the session destroy event.
> 
> This comes up not infrequently on the list, the archives have more 
> information:
> 
> http://old.nabble.com/Re%3A-sessionListener.sessionDestroyed-is-called-on-shutdown-of-a-node-in-the-cluster-p16746969.html
> 
> > Is there any event listener that I can use before the sessionDestroyed to 
> > differentiate if one cluster node has been shutdown or my session has been 
> > expired?
> >
> > Or is how to configure the contextDestroy to be called before the sessions 
> > destroy?
> 
> No, contextDestroyed() means that the web application itself has been 
> stopped, this is mandated by the Servlet Spec.
> 
> 
> p
> 
> 
> > Thanks in advance for your help.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Imad Hachem
> >
> > System Engineer
> >
> >
> > 
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Re: MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed

2009-11-17 Thread Pid

On 17/11/2009 04:14, Imad Hachem wrote:


Dear all,

I am using Tomcat-5.5.12 as Clustering nodes, and after one node
shutdown sessionDestroyed is called before contextDestroyed.


Are you still using 5.5.12?  Hasn't anyone advised you to upgrade to a 
newer version yet?


I think it's perfectly reasonably to call sessionDestroyed() before 
contextDestroyed().



How can I know if sessionDestroyed is called from session.invalidate()
from the real expiration of the session or shutdown of one cluster node?


You can't know this directly from the Servlet API methods.


Note that on sessionDestroyed event, I am using a Logout behavior to
logout my users from the DATABASE.

I have tried to set a KEY on the context (or application scope) to check

> on it during the sessionDestroyed event, but it seems the context is

destroyed after the session destroy event.


This comes up not infrequently on the list, the archives have more 
information:


http://old.nabble.com/Re%3A-sessionListener.sessionDestroyed-is-called-on-shutdown-of-a-node-in-the-cluster-p16746969.html


Is there any event listener that I can use before the sessionDestroyed to 
differentiate if one cluster node has been shutdown or my session has been 
expired?

Or is how to configure the contextDestroy to be called before the sessions 
destroy?


No, contextDestroyed() means that the web application itself has been 
stopped, this is mandated by the Servlet Spec.



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Thanks in advance for your help.

Best Regards,
Imad Hachem

System Engineer



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MISC; Tomcat-5.5.12; After one Tomcat Cluster node shutdown, sessionDestroyed been called before contextDestroyed

2009-11-16 Thread Imad Hachem

Dear all,
 
I am using Tomcat-5.5.12 as Clustering nodes, and after one node shutdown 
sessionDestroyed is called before contextDestroyed.
 
How can I know if sessionDestroyed is called from session.invalidate() from the 
real expiration of the session or shutdown of one cluster node?
 
Note that on sessionDestroyed event, I am using a Logout behavior to logout my 
users from the DATABASE.
 
I have tried to set a KEY on the context (or application scope) to check on it 
during the sessionDestroyed event, but it seems the context is destroyed after 
the session destroy event.
 
Is there any event listener that I can use before the sessionDestroyed to 
differentiate if one cluster node has been shutdown or my session has been 
expired?
 
Or is how to configure the contextDestroy to be called before the sessions 
destroy?
 
Thanks in advance for your help.

Best Regards,
Imad Hachem 

System Engineer 


  
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