Re: howto add a UDP Listener

2009-09-14 Thread Andre-John Mas
They are both licensed under the GPL. You can web start enable any  
Java application.


BTW Just in case I am detecting a misunderstanding, Java Web Start is  
not the same thing as a webapp. You don't need Tomcat to 'web start' a  
Java application. Apache HTTPD will do the job just fine.


André-John

On 14-Sep-2009, at 02:44, Sebastian Wagner wrote:

The problem is that Sharer & Viewer should be a Java Application  
that does
not require Installation on the client machine and it has to be  
available

for all plattforms. So Java Web Start is our choice.

The solution will be part of a GPL-Project so it cannot be based on
commercial products.

thanks,
sebastian

2009/9/13 Andre-John Mas 


You may want to look at the Java VNC Viewer:

http://www.realvnc.com/support/javavncviewer.html

or TightVNC:

http://www.tightvnc.com/download.html

it may save you repeating work which has already been done elsewhere.

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Re: howto add a UDP Listener

2009-09-13 Thread Sebastian Wagner
The problem is that Sharer & Viewer should be a Java Application that does
not require Installation on the client machine and it has to be available
for all plattforms. So Java Web Start is our choice.

The solution will be part of a GPL-Project so it cannot be based on
commercial products.

thanks,
sebastian

2009/9/13 Andre-John Mas 

> You may want to look at the Java VNC Viewer:
>
> http://www.realvnc.com/support/javavncviewer.html
>
> or TightVNC:
>
> http://www.tightvnc.com/download.html
>
> it may save you repeating work which has already been done elsewhere.
>
> André-John
>
>
> On 13-Sep-2009, at 16:10, Sebastian Wagner wrote:
>
>  yes it is a solution send only ... or receive only.
>>
>> sebastian
>>
>> 2009/9/13 Andre-John Mas 
>>
>>
>>> On 13-Sep-2009, at 15:04, Sebastian Wagner wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for your answers.
>>>

 I am working on a Desktop Sharing application that is sending the
 Desktop
 Images over UDP to Tomcat. As this is quite time-critical I need to
 integrate the UDP-handler into my webapp.
 It seems like using MINA does solve my Issues.

 thanks,
 sebastian


>>> Will you be sending images to a single host and is the solution send
>>> only?
>>>
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Re: howto add a UDP Listener

2009-09-13 Thread Andre-John Mas

You may want to look at the Java VNC Viewer:

http://www.realvnc.com/support/javavncviewer.html

or TightVNC:

http://www.tightvnc.com/download.html

it may save you repeating work which has already been done elsewhere.

André-John

On 13-Sep-2009, at 16:10, Sebastian Wagner wrote:


yes it is a solution send only ... or receive only.

sebastian

2009/9/13 Andre-John Mas 



On 13-Sep-2009, at 15:04, Sebastian Wagner wrote:

Thanks for your answers.


I am working on a Desktop Sharing application that is sending the  
Desktop

Images over UDP to Tomcat. As this is quite time-critical I need to
integrate the UDP-handler into my webapp.
It seems like using MINA does solve my Issues.

thanks,
sebastian



Will you be sending images to a single host and is the solution  
send only?



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Re: howto add a UDP Listener

2009-09-13 Thread Sebastian Wagner
yes it is a solution send only ... or receive only.

sebastian

2009/9/13 Andre-John Mas 

>
> On 13-Sep-2009, at 15:04, Sebastian Wagner wrote:
>
>  Thanks for your answers.
>>
>> I am working on a Desktop Sharing application that is sending the Desktop
>> Images over UDP to Tomcat. As this is quite time-critical I need to
>> integrate the UDP-handler into my webapp.
>> It seems like using MINA does solve my Issues.
>>
>> thanks,
>> sebastian
>>
>
> Will you be sending images to a single host and is the solution send only?
>
>
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Re: howto add a UDP Listener

2009-09-13 Thread Andre-John Mas


On 13-Sep-2009, at 15:04, Sebastian Wagner wrote:


Thanks for your answers.

I am working on a Desktop Sharing application that is sending the  
Desktop

Images over UDP to Tomcat. As this is quite time-critical I need to
integrate the UDP-handler into my webapp.
It seems like using MINA does solve my Issues.

thanks,
sebastian


Will you be sending images to a single host and is the solution send  
only?


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Re: howto add a UDP Listener

2009-09-13 Thread Sebastian Wagner
You might be right, I will have to try different approaches till the final
release.

thanks,
sebastian

2009/9/13 Caldarale, Charles R 

> > From: Sebastian Wagner [mailto:seba.wag...@gmail.com]
> > Subject: Re: howto add a UDP Listener
> >
> > I think you mean why it does NOT use a reliable protocol ... ?
>
> Which is what I said:
>
> > > Why *doesn't* the Desktop Sharing application use a reliable protocol
>
> > I hope to gain some performance by using UDP.
>
> Simply by eliminating the ACKs?  I think you'd be hard pressed to measure a
> real-world difference.
>
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RE: howto add a UDP Listener

2009-09-13 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
> From: Sebastian Wagner [mailto:seba.wag...@gmail.com]
> Subject: Re: howto add a UDP Listener
> 
> I think you mean why it does NOT use a reliable protocol ... ?

Which is what I said:

> > Why *doesn't* the Desktop Sharing application use a reliable protocol

> I hope to gain some performance by using UDP.

Simply by eliminating the ACKs?  I think you'd be hard pressed to measure a 
real-world difference.

 - Chuck


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Re: howto add a UDP Listener

2009-09-13 Thread Sebastian Wagner
I think you mean why it does NOT use a reliable protocol ... ?

Iit is not that important if some packages are lost in this case and I hope
to gain some performance by using UDP.

sebastian

2009/9/13 Caldarale, Charles R 

> > From: Sebastian Wagner [mailto:seba.wag...@gmail.com]
> > Subject: Re: howto add a UDP Listener
> >
> > I am working on a Desktop Sharing application that is sending the
> > Desktop Images over UDP to Tomcat.
>
> Why doesn't the Desktop Sharing application use a reliable protocol (e.g.,
> HTTP over TCP) to talk to Tomcat?
>
>  - Chuck
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RE: howto add a UDP Listener

2009-09-13 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
> From: Sebastian Wagner [mailto:seba.wag...@gmail.com]
> Subject: Re: howto add a UDP Listener
> 
> I am working on a Desktop Sharing application that is sending the
> Desktop Images over UDP to Tomcat.

Why doesn't the Desktop Sharing application use a reliable protocol (e.g., HTTP 
over TCP) to talk to Tomcat?

 - Chuck


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Re: howto add a UDP Listener

2009-09-13 Thread Sebastian Wagner
Thanks for your answers.

I am working on a Desktop Sharing application that is sending the Desktop
Images over UDP to Tomcat. As this is quite time-critical I need to
integrate the UDP-handler into my webapp.
It seems like using MINA does solve my Issues.

thanks,
sebastian

2009/9/13 Andre-John Mas 

>
> On 13-Sep-2009, at 14:19, Caldarale, Charles R wrote:
>
>  From: Sebastian Wagner [mailto:seba.wag...@gmail.com]
>>> Subject: howto add a UDP Listener
>>>
>>> Is there a way of telling tomcat to receive UDP Packets and forward
>>> them to my Handlers?
>>>
>>
>> No.  Tomcat is a server for HTTP requests running over TCP protocol.
>>  You'll need to implement your own UDP handler.  You might want to look over
>> this thread, which sounds similar to your situation (ignore the last message
>> of the thread, which is a hijack):
>> http://marc.info/?t=11356216962&r=1&w=2
>>
>> You might be able to make use of this within your code:
>> http://mina.apache.org/
>>
>
> I am just curious what problem the original poster is trying to address?
>
> The approach I would probably take is to make an external "proxy"
> application that accepts the UDP requests and then submits the data as an
> HTTP request to the web server using a GET or POST request. The advantage
> with this is that it helps keep the webapp focused on HTTP and not stuff
> that doesn't really fit with web server.
>
> André-John
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Re: howto add a UDP Listener

2009-09-13 Thread Andre-John Mas


On 13-Sep-2009, at 14:19, Caldarale, Charles R wrote:


From: Sebastian Wagner [mailto:seba.wag...@gmail.com]
Subject: howto add a UDP Listener

Is there a way of telling tomcat to receive UDP Packets and forward
them to my Handlers?


No.  Tomcat is a server for HTTP requests running over TCP  
protocol.  You'll need to implement your own UDP handler.  You might  
want to look over this thread, which sounds similar to your  
situation (ignore the last message of the thread, which is a hijack):

http://marc.info/?t=11356216962&r=1&w=2

You might be able to make use of this within your code:
http://mina.apache.org/


I am just curious what problem the original poster is trying to address?

The approach I would probably take is to make an external "proxy"  
application that accepts the UDP requests and then submits the data as  
an HTTP request to the web server using a GET or POST request. The  
advantage with this is that it helps keep the webapp focused on HTTP  
and not stuff that doesn't really fit with web server.


André-John



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RE: howto add a UDP Listener

2009-09-13 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
> From: Sebastian Wagner [mailto:seba.wag...@gmail.com]
> Subject: howto add a UDP Listener
> 
> Is there a way of telling tomcat to receive UDP Packets and forward
> them to my Handlers?

No.  Tomcat is a server for HTTP requests running over TCP protocol.  You'll 
need to implement your own UDP handler.  You might want to look over this 
thread, which sounds similar to your situation (ignore the last message of the 
thread, which is a hijack):
http://marc.info/?t=11356216962&r=1&w=2

You might be able to make use of this within your code:
http://mina.apache.org/

 - Chuck


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