Re: TomeEE 8.0.5 and microprofile JWT RBAC 1.1
> On Jan 13, 2021, at 5:31 AM, COURTAULT Francois > wrote: > > Hello David, > > Just my point of view that I want to share with you. > Of course not everyone is using µServices architecture but there is some > traction on that. > > For example, we have migrated 2 of our solutions from monolith to µServices > architecture and we are using for the moment TomEE 8.0.5. > > So , for our organization, MP specifications are quite important. The > consequence is that we are waiting for a close following of the > specifications as they evolved. David, as you said, TomEE 8.0.5 is in between > 2.1/2.2 MP specifications. But it's too old ! :-( > The version 4.0.1 has just been released, between 2.2 and 4.0.1, 5 MP > specifications releases have been published. > > I am afraid that if you don't put some priority on MP, most of the people, > wanting to build a Java µService architecture, will use Quarkus or Helidon > for such thing instead of using TomEE !For example, following MP > specifications as much as possible, is more important than having a full > compliancy with Jakarta EE 8 or 9. Ask the question to the community and > let's see the answers ? > > Again I just want to share my feelings about the TomEE roadmap. I understand and share you frustration. I'll add that once a project like this one is so far behind, it actually makes it harder to recover as fewer people come here and that leads to even fewer resources. Your disadvantages pile up and compound on each other and it can make things feel quite hopeless. It takes a lot of determination to keep going against such terrible odds. It also takes a dalai lama level of zen to not direct that frustration at those who offer suggestions on how you can do better with what little you have and go silent when the topic comes up on how they can do better and contribute the little they have. I appreciate you mean well and truly do want the project to be stronger. TomEE was built by people in their spare time (including me) and we seemed to hover around 1.5 FTEs in aggregate across a small handful of people. We're still at that level of resources. We could have a large community discussion on how those people spend their time, but I don't think more opinions will help them and will likely discourage them. Rather thank asking the community what they want most, I'd be more interested in knowing how we can help them contribute what they want. If you have any suggestions I'm very willing to hear them. -David smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: [ANN] Welcome new Apache TomEE Committer Richard Zowalla
Thanks to all of you for your kind words and for this opportunity! TomEE has a very welcoming community. My journey started in 2015 (with TomEE 1.7.x), when my colleague, Martin W., urged me (hehe, sorry for the wording :-P) to join the d...@tomee.apache.org list to monitor potential discussions, which would influence our (research) software. So, there I was - a silent listener reading the various discussions going on at this time. Then, in December 2018, there was "TomEE for the Holidays" (with this cool images on Twitter [1]) and we had an issue (related to German locales / date formatting) influencing our software: after some debugging and feedback by Romain via Jira, my first commit to TomEE was born. Time passed again and in 2019, the next image appeared on Twitter [2]. In 2020, I was experimenting with JCA connectors to build some sort of pseudo transactional file io (digged through the mailing lists to find some information about it - might be worth to write it down in the future :-) ) and also learned a lot related to CORBA, Byte-Code generation at build time and SPI (and also some sort of history about it). Through all this years: Whenever I had a question or some thoughts, I received an answer or a piece of information to start digging enabling me to ask a follow up question and so on ... tl;dr: I experienced a lot of fun & learned a lot about TomEE internals and I am still learning a lot each day. Thus, I feel honored to be part of such a supportive community (even before becomming a committer) :-) I hope, that I can continue this journey with all of you in the next years! Gruss Richard [1] https://twitter.com/tomitribe/status/1073645255407345666 [2] https://twitter.com/tomitribe/status/1207322298870632449 Am Dienstag, den 12.01.2021, 22:34 +0100 schrieb Jean-Louis Monteiro: > The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache TomEE has > invited Richard to become a committer and we are pleased to announce > that > he has accepted. > > Richard, a while back (yes I know) when I started contributing and I > eventually got invited to become a committer, David sent a wonderful > message[1] based on the well known proverb "It takes a village ... > (to > raise a child)". I can't unfortunately compete with David's phrasing > and > wonderful words, but believe me, I wish I could for you. But I'll try > to > say it with my simple but honest frenchglish words. > > I'm very proud to be writing this announcement on behalf of the > Apache > TomEE PMC. You have been continuously contributing to the project, > with > code, documentation, examples and most important, helping out users > and > other potential committers. > > You have the Apache way and I'm glad you accepted the invite. > It's our committer responsibility to enable others to contribute and > again > I think you have been doing great. > > Being a committer enables easier contribution to the project since > there is > no need to go via the patch submission process. This should enable > better > productivity. Being a PMC member enables assistance with the > management and > to guide the direction of the project. > > > Please join me and send him a warm welcome and thank you. > > > [1] > http://tomee-openejb.979440.n4.nabble.com/It-takes-a-village-Jean-Louis-td988516.html#a988522 > > -- > Jean-Louis Monteiro > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro > http://www.tomitribe.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
RE: TomeEE 8.0.5 and microprofile JWT RBAC 1.1
Hello David, Just my point of view that I want to share with you. Of course not everyone is using µServices architecture but there is some traction on that. For example, we have migrated 2 of our solutions from monolith to µServices architecture and we are using for the moment TomEE 8.0.5. So , for our organization, MP specifications are quite important. The consequence is that we are waiting for a close following of the specifications as they evolved. David, as you said, TomEE 8.0.5 is in between 2.1/2.2 MP specifications. But it's too old ! :-( The version 4.0.1 has just been released, between 2.2 and 4.0.1, 5 MP specifications releases have been published. I am afraid that if you don't put some priority on MP, most of the people, wanting to build a Java µService architecture, will use Quarkus or Helidon for such thing instead of using TomEE !For example, following MP specifications as much as possible, is more important than having a full compliancy with Jakarta EE 8 or 9. Ask the question to the community and let's see the answers ? Again I just want to share my feelings about the TomEE roadmap. Best Regards. -Original Message- From: David Blevins [mailto:david.blev...@gmail.com] Sent: mardi 12 janvier 2021 23:04 To: users@tomee.apache.org Subject: Re: TomeEE 8.0.5 and microprofile JWT RBAC 1.1 Hello Francois, TomEE 8 does support MicroProfile JWT 1.1. As for the overall level of support, MicroProfile 2.1 would be the most accurate version to cite, though the answer is really it's a bit mixed. Essentially MicroProfile 2.1 is the last MicroProfile version that included Fault Tolerance 1.x. MicroProfile 2.2 switched to FaultTolerance 2.0 which is not supported. Some of the specs are more current than the versions that were included in MicroProfile 2.1, so parts of our MicroProfile support is more current. The technique of looking at the related API jar as you did is the right one to use. Most people are working on Jakarta EE 8 compliance with a secondary focus on Jakarta EE 9 compliance as they are the same TCK just with different namespaces. I suspect when that is done people will move onto getting MicroProfile compliance more current. That isn't to say help getting MicroProfile support more current right now wouldn't be extremely welcome -- it definitely would -- however, no one has volunteered yet so it sits in the "someday" pile. Hope that helps. -- David Blevins http://twitter.com/dblevins http://www.tomitribe.com > On Dec 18, 2020, at 2:18 AM, COURTAULT Francois > wrote: > > Hello, > > Could anyone answer to the questions below ? > Thanks in advance. > > Best Regards. > > -Original Message- > From: COURTAULT Francois [mailto:francois.courta...@thalesgroup.com] > Sent: vendredi 11 décembre 2020 18:23 > To: users@tomee.apache.org > Subject: TomeEE 8.0.5 and microprofile JWT RBAC 1.1 > > Hello everyone, > > Is TomEE 8.0.5 certified for micro-profile JWT 1.1 ? > Looking at the lib embedded, microprofile-jwt-auth-api-1.1.1.jar, I would say > yes, but I prefer to check. > > BTW, it's a recurrent question I have: what is the micro-profile version on > which TomEE 8.0.5 is certified ? > The lastest version is 3.3. > > Best Regards. > > >
Re: [ANN] Welcome new Apache TomEE Committer Richard Zowalla
Congrats! Am Mi., 13. Jan. 2021 um 11:40 Uhr schrieb Jonathan Gallimore < jonathan.gallim...@gmail.com>: > Congratulations Richard, and thank you for all your contributions! > > Jon > > On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 9:34 PM Jean-Louis Monteiro < > jlmonte...@tomitribe.com> wrote: > > > The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache TomEE has > > invited Richard to become a committer and we are pleased to announce that > > he has accepted. > > > > Richard, a while back (yes I know) when I started contributing and I > > eventually got invited to become a committer, David sent a wonderful > > message[1] based on the well known proverb "It takes a village ... (to > > raise a child)". I can't unfortunately compete with David's phrasing and > > wonderful words, but believe me, I wish I could for you. But I'll try to > > say it with my simple but honest frenchglish words. > > > > I'm very proud to be writing this announcement on behalf of the Apache > > TomEE PMC. You have been continuously contributing to the project, with > > code, documentation, examples and most important, helping out users and > > other potential committers. > > > > You have the Apache way and I'm glad you accepted the invite. > > It's our committer responsibility to enable others to contribute and > again > > I think you have been doing great. > > > > Being a committer enables easier contribution to the project since there > is > > no need to go via the patch submission process. This should enable better > > productivity. Being a PMC member enables assistance with the management > and > > to guide the direction of the project. > > > > > > Please join me and send him a warm welcome and thank you. > > > > > > [1] > > > > > http://tomee-openejb.979440.n4.nabble.com/It-takes-a-village-Jean-Louis-td988516.html#a988522 > > > > -- > > Jean-Louis Monteiro > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro > > http://www.tomitribe.com > > >
Re: [ANN] Welcome new Apache TomEE Committer Richard Zowalla
Congratulations Richard, and thank you for all your contributions! Jon On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 9:34 PM Jean-Louis Monteiro < jlmonte...@tomitribe.com> wrote: > The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache TomEE has > invited Richard to become a committer and we are pleased to announce that > he has accepted. > > Richard, a while back (yes I know) when I started contributing and I > eventually got invited to become a committer, David sent a wonderful > message[1] based on the well known proverb "It takes a village ... (to > raise a child)". I can't unfortunately compete with David's phrasing and > wonderful words, but believe me, I wish I could for you. But I'll try to > say it with my simple but honest frenchglish words. > > I'm very proud to be writing this announcement on behalf of the Apache > TomEE PMC. You have been continuously contributing to the project, with > code, documentation, examples and most important, helping out users and > other potential committers. > > You have the Apache way and I'm glad you accepted the invite. > It's our committer responsibility to enable others to contribute and again > I think you have been doing great. > > Being a committer enables easier contribution to the project since there is > no need to go via the patch submission process. This should enable better > productivity. Being a PMC member enables assistance with the management and > to guide the direction of the project. > > > Please join me and send him a warm welcome and thank you. > > > [1] > > http://tomee-openejb.979440.n4.nabble.com/It-takes-a-village-Jean-Louis-td988516.html#a988522 > > -- > Jean-Louis Monteiro > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro > http://www.tomitribe.com >
