Re: More real world Wicket

2007-09-05 Thread Gwyn Evans
On Wednesday, September 5, 2007, 4:13:22 AM, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yep, Wicket kicks ass. The book will help even more.

 Am I the only one having so many issues trying to update to 1.3, though?

 Was there such a big jump because of the move to Apache? Or is this kind
 of growing pain to be expected for each new version, do you think?

I think it's a combination of things, but it probably depends on just
how much you've gone into particular areas. I guess that if you're
unlucky, you might have been using some of the areas that changed more
than others, whereas I was lucky enough to be able to change my
(rather basic) Wicket apps without much hassle.

/Gwyn


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More real world Wicket

2007-09-04 Thread jweekend

This  http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2176557,00.asp eweek article  has
a small section on how LeapFrog are finding development with Wicket and why
they chose to use it.
Regards - Cemal
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Re: More real world Wicket

2007-09-04 Thread Jonathan Locke


yeah, i saw that last week.  it's quite a statement.  but i'm hearing this
kind of thing more and more.  at my current workplace, i'm constantly
staggered when i mentally compare our development speed with past non-wicket
projects.  even when i guess a little on the low side, i find i'm mostly
making or exceeding schedule targets.  and the feature branches we're
developing in parallel often come together so quickly that it's a challenge
just to stay on top of the back end of the process with all the merging and
testing and deploying.  our components already are paying off enormously in
terms of both cost of development and cost of maintenance.  just being able
to fully refactor wicket components in eclipse is almost a reason to adopt
wicket in itself.


jweekend wrote:
 
 This  http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2176557,00.asp eweek article 
 has a small section on how LeapFrog are finding development with Wicket
 and why they chose to use it.
 Regards - Cemal
 

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Re: More real world Wicket

2007-09-04 Thread David Leangen

Yep, Wicket kicks ass. The book will help even more.


Am I the only one having so many issues trying to update to 1.3, though?

Was there such a big jump because of the move to Apache? Or is this kind
of growing pain to be expected for each new version, do you think?





On Tue, 2007-09-04 at 20:14 -0700, Jonathan Locke wrote:
 
 yeah, i saw that last week.  it's quite a statement.  but i'm hearing this
 kind of thing more and more.  at my current workplace, i'm constantly
 staggered when i mentally compare our development speed with past non-wicket
 projects.  even when i guess a little on the low side, i find i'm mostly
 making or exceeding schedule targets.  and the feature branches we're
 developing in parallel often come together so quickly that it's a challenge
 just to stay on top of the back end of the process with all the merging and
 testing and deploying.  our components already are paying off enormously in
 terms of both cost of development and cost of maintenance.  just being able
 to fully refactor wicket components in eclipse is almost a reason to adopt
 wicket in itself.
 
 
 jweekend wrote:
  
  This  http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2176557,00.asp eweek article 
  has a small section on how LeapFrog are finding development with Wicket
  and why they chose to use it.
  Regards - Cemal
  
 


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Re: More real world Wicket

2007-09-04 Thread Jonathan Locke


i don't really know.  my new project is 1.3 and my old one will always be
1.2.
i have not found too much pain in the API changes myself.  it's certainly a
lot less
drastic than what we started to do.  in general, i would expect less and
less dramatic 
change in the future as more and more people come to depend on these APIs.
there will be some changes to introduce generics, but i'm not aware of very
many
user-facing architectural changes under consideration.  it's more likely
that wicket
will refine the more internal APIs like markup traversal, for example, and
possibly
provide compatibility layers for the few people who depend on those internal
details.
but as with all OSS, it's all in the hands of the community now.


David Leangen-8 wrote:
 
 
 Yep, Wicket kicks ass. The book will help even more.
 
 
 Am I the only one having so many issues trying to update to 1.3, though?
 
 Was there such a big jump because of the move to Apache? Or is this kind
 of growing pain to be expected for each new version, do you think?
 
 
 
 
 
 On Tue, 2007-09-04 at 20:14 -0700, Jonathan Locke wrote:
 
 yeah, i saw that last week.  it's quite a statement.  but i'm hearing
 this
 kind of thing more and more.  at my current workplace, i'm constantly
 staggered when i mentally compare our development speed with past
 non-wicket
 projects.  even when i guess a little on the low side, i find i'm mostly
 making or exceeding schedule targets.  and the feature branches we're
 developing in parallel often come together so quickly that it's a
 challenge
 just to stay on top of the back end of the process with all the merging
 and
 testing and deploying.  our components already are paying off enormously
 in
 terms of both cost of development and cost of maintenance.  just being
 able
 to fully refactor wicket components in eclipse is almost a reason to
 adopt
 wicket in itself.
 
 
 jweekend wrote:
  
  This  http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2176557,00.asp eweek article 
  has a small section on how LeapFrog are finding development with Wicket
  and why they chose to use it.
  Regards - Cemal
  
 
 
 
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