Re: will it work in a Linode?
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 2:17 AM, Stephen Swinsburg < s.swinsb...@lancaster.ac.uk> wrote: > Well you can run Tomcat just fine in that setup, but if it's going to need > to handle lots of concurrent users and sessions then you might hit the > limits quickly. Just run some profiling on it and see how you go. Profile > locally and you can see how much your app server/JVM that Wicket is running > in is using, then you'll know the resources you need or what to optimise in > your Wicket app ;) > > The instructions towards the end of this post will help you do a quick trial (using Jetty), and you can experiment with more concurrent users etc. http://ptrthomas.wordpress.com/2009/01/14/seam-jsf-vs-wicket-performance-comparison/ > > cheers, > Steve > > > > On 28/02/2009, at 7:19 AM, jbarciela jbarciela wrote: > > Yes I know, it all depends :) >> >> But imagine two questions: >> - Can you run a LAMP stack on that hardware? => yes >> - Can you run BEA Weblogic ? => no, I don't think so, I wouldn't even >> try it and I wouldn't recommend anyone to waste time like that. >> >> On the other hand can you run Seam/JBoss ? I'm not sure, I would ask >> first if somebody has done it. >> >> All I'm hoping to get is anecdotal evidence that it is possible at >> all, because someone has done it. >> >> Thanks Jeremy! >> Jaime >> >> >> >> On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 12:35 AM, Jeremy Thomerson >> wrote: >> >>> Impossible question to answer given your details. >>> >>> Don't hold big objects, and especially not collections in session, do >>> your database right, etc, etc, sure - you could get tons of r/s. But we >>> don't know if every request generates 78 queries to your DB. If so, plan on >>> your app dying a slow painful death. >>> >>> Jeremy Thomerson >>> http://www.wickettraining.com >>> -- sent from a wireless device >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: jbarciela jbarciela >>> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 11:08 PM >>> To: users@wicket.apache.org >>> Subject: will it work in a Linode? >>> >>> Hello all, >>> >>> Does anyone have experience running a Wicket app in a memory >>> constrained server? It's going to be Ubuntu minimal, Wicket and H2 >>> embedded database on a Linode (360 MB ram, $20/month). >>> >>> Can I get even 1 req/s from that setup? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> Jaime >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org >>> >>> >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org >>> >>> >>> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org >> >> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org > >
Re: will it work in a Linode?
Well you can run Tomcat just fine in that setup, but if it's going to need to handle lots of concurrent users and sessions then you might hit the limits quickly. Just run some profiling on it and see how you go. Profile locally and you can see how much your app server/JVM that Wicket is running in is using, then you'll know the resources you need or what to optimise in your Wicket app ;) cheers, Steve On 28/02/2009, at 7:19 AM, jbarciela jbarciela wrote: Yes I know, it all depends :) But imagine two questions: - Can you run a LAMP stack on that hardware? => yes - Can you run BEA Weblogic ? => no, I don't think so, I wouldn't even try it and I wouldn't recommend anyone to waste time like that. On the other hand can you run Seam/JBoss ? I'm not sure, I would ask first if somebody has done it. All I'm hoping to get is anecdotal evidence that it is possible at all, because someone has done it. Thanks Jeremy! Jaime On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 12:35 AM, Jeremy Thomerson wrote: Impossible question to answer given your details. Don't hold big objects, and especially not collections in session, do your database right, etc, etc, sure - you could get tons of r/ s. But we don't know if every request generates 78 queries to your DB. If so, plan on your app dying a slow painful death. Jeremy Thomerson http://www.wickettraining.com -- sent from a wireless device -Original Message- From: jbarciela jbarciela Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 11:08 PM To: users@wicket.apache.org Subject: will it work in a Linode? Hello all, Does anyone have experience running a Wicket app in a memory constrained server? It's going to be Ubuntu minimal, Wicket and H2 embedded database on a Linode (360 MB ram, $20/month). Can I get even 1 req/s from that setup? Thanks! Jaime - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: will it work in a Linode?
Hello Jaime I use a Linode plan myself, in this exact configuration (360MB ram-20$/M). It runs on Ubuntu 8.10, with Apache2, Tomcat6, Mysql. It's perfect for what i do with it : development, testing, and code repository (Subversion). But don't expect to host amazon.com on it ! 360MB is the bare minimum. Cheers Landry jbarciela jbarciela wrote: Hello all, Does anyone have experience running a Wicket app in a memory constrained server? It's going to be Ubuntu minimal, Wicket and H2 embedded database on a Linode (360 MB ram, $20/month). Can I get even 1 req/s from that setup? Thanks! Jaime - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: will it work in a Linode?
Yes I know, it all depends :) But imagine two questions: - Can you run a LAMP stack on that hardware? => yes - Can you run BEA Weblogic ? => no, I don't think so, I wouldn't even try it and I wouldn't recommend anyone to waste time like that. On the other hand can you run Seam/JBoss ? I'm not sure, I would ask first if somebody has done it. All I'm hoping to get is anecdotal evidence that it is possible at all, because someone has done it. Thanks Jeremy! Jaime On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 12:35 AM, Jeremy Thomerson wrote: > Impossible question to answer given your details. > > Don't hold big objects, and especially not collections in session, do your > database right, etc, etc, sure - you could get tons of r/s. But we don't > know if every request generates 78 queries to your DB. If so, plan on your > app dying a slow painful death. > > Jeremy Thomerson > http://www.wickettraining.com > -- sent from a wireless device > > > -Original Message- > From: jbarciela jbarciela > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 11:08 PM > To: users@wicket.apache.org > Subject: will it work in a Linode? > > Hello all, > > Does anyone have experience running a Wicket app in a memory > constrained server? It's going to be Ubuntu minimal, Wicket and H2 > embedded database on a Linode (360 MB ram, $20/month). > > Can I get even 1 req/s from that setup? > > Thanks! > Jaime > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: will it work in a Linode?
Well, no, I don't think that. On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 1:44 AM, Igor Vaynberg wrote: > what would make you think wicket would be the most memory hungry part > of that setup and not the OS or the database? > > -igor > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 9:08 PM, jbarciela jbarciela > wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> Does anyone have experience running a Wicket app in a memory >> constrained server? It's going to be Ubuntu minimal, Wicket and H2 >> embedded database on a Linode (360 MB ram, $20/month). >> >> Can I get even 1 req/s from that setup? >> >> Thanks! >> Jaime >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org >> >> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: will it work in a Linode?
what would make you think wicket would be the most memory hungry part of that setup and not the OS or the database? -igor On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 9:08 PM, jbarciela jbarciela wrote: > Hello all, > > Does anyone have experience running a Wicket app in a memory > constrained server? It's going to be Ubuntu minimal, Wicket and H2 > embedded database on a Linode (360 MB ram, $20/month). > > Can I get even 1 req/s from that setup? > > Thanks! > Jaime > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
RE: will it work in a Linode?
Impossible question to answer given your details. Don't hold big objects, and especially not collections in session, do your database right, etc, etc, sure - you could get tons of r/s. But we don't know if every request generates 78 queries to your DB. If so, plan on your app dying a slow painful death. Jeremy Thomerson http://www.wickettraining.com -- sent from a wireless device -Original Message- From: jbarciela jbarciela Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 11:08 PM To: users@wicket.apache.org Subject: will it work in a Linode? Hello all, Does anyone have experience running a Wicket app in a memory constrained server? It's going to be Ubuntu minimal, Wicket and H2 embedded database on a Linode (360 MB ram, $20/month). Can I get even 1 req/s from that setup? Thanks! Jaime - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org