Re: [xwiki-users] The new GWT-based WYSIWYG editor doesn't support the syntax
Hi Lee, Add com.xpn.xwiki.wysiwyg.server.plugin.WysiwygPlugin to xwiki.plugins in xwiki.cfg and the editor will work. Hope this helps, Marius On 06/03/2010 07:05 PM, Lee Chalupa wrote: Sorry if this is a double post. I was informed that my last post was not accepted since I was not subscribed to this mailing list. Does anyone know what this message means? I recently converted from 1.4 to 2.3 of Enterprise and now when I try to create a new page, I get this message. The new GWT-based WYSIWYG editor doesn't support the syntax of the current document: xwiki/2.0. I've searched xwiki documentation including FAQ but I can't find anything on this subject. Does this xwiki application document error messages someplace? I'm stuck. Can someone give me some ideas on where to look for answers. Lee ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Rights Management UI
Hi Caty, On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 18:09, Ecaterina Valica vali...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Denis, I want to thank you again for all the help you are giving :P This is pleasure to participate especially because you provide really good proposals. I would also like to see others participating, currently the discussion is becoming to much bilateral IMO. Please take a look at a proposal for V3 and my 3) version with elements from Rights2 :) http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Proposal and in action http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Space Really nice job ! I really appreciate. The prototype is not reflecting the desired interaction: both inherited info and rights change appear on hover (right icon and arrow), instead of hover | click. I am not sure what are really your intend. I think that the big tooltips describing the rights should be the only tooltips, and should be show on hover only after a small timeout (like the yellow one currently). Clicking any where on the +/- icon or v would then open the menu. Is it what you try ? That v needs to be an arrow like the one we use in the action menus. On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 19:06, Denis Gervalle d...@softec.lu wrote: Caty, Really nice and interesting post, I will try to reach that level... but without visual :\ I really think that using the collapsed view for editing would helps basic users to have a simplified and more easy interface to understand. We may even imagine that only advanced user (those marked so in their profile), has access to the expanded view. I think that the collapsed view missed an additional icon that summarize the rights that are not shown. This one would only be shown if there is any non-defaulted additional right in action. This is a signal that extended rights are in use (See it like the grey box of Windows when special rights are setup, which is inviting to go into advanced view to know more). This one would be obviously not editable, and should probably work like the ... or replace it ? In place of the ... . Concerning the ..., I am not sure, but I would also prefer to see a textual link advanced in small font, and only visible when row is hovered. http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Proposal#HRowhover Sorry to insist, but the information regarding the advanced rights is still missing in collapsed mode. I really would like to have a indicator that some advanced rights has been set locally or not without having to go advanced mode. Else, you will have to expand all rows to check that information, which is not practical. Order of right are not significant, so I would prefer that in all view, these where in the same order, with the basic right first (V/C/E/D/A/P) and the additional right in their order of registration (hope that it will stay constant... or we will have to find a way to keep them ordered). The right part of each icon should be grayed if the right is inherited and not grayed if the right is set locally, this improve the information provided in V3. http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Proposal#HAfterclick The problem with this icons (taken from Silk) is that there is little difference for View, Comment, Admin icons between the two states (inherited, locally set) - but this is something we can easily improve (by changing the icons and looking for some more contrast). Example: This is how they look when all rights are set locally (full color) http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights43Proposal/fullColors.png I also think that the +/- (which is never grayed) could be nearer to the right icon. Maybe you could use a green V and a read stop in place of +/- ? The other mockup versions (like http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights41Space) used v/x for the allow/deny representation, and yes, I agree that they are more suited than +/-. The problem is that we are using in XWiki, X to represent delete, so having two xX was too much, that's why I introduced +/-. Maybe we can find another solution. I think we need some polishing on the icons used. Building them specifically would be nice, but I do not know if you or anyone want to have a try at that. My feeling is that the couple +/- or better v/x and the right icon should be built together and closer to each other providing the information as a whole and not giving the impression of two part. Using a v for suggesting the menu is nice, could be even improved by styling some button like borders on hover. All menus could also be improved by using the inheritance arrow married with +/- (or v/x) to show immediately what will be the right if inheritance is used. Regarding the collapsed view, I see three possibilities to investigate for allowing edition while improving readability
Re: [xwiki-users] Warning at the start
Nobody have a clue if these warning are a big problem? Regards Ben -- View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Warning-at-the-start-tp5125382p5138800.html Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Warning at the start
When XWikiPreferences is saved, all of the components are reloaded with new settings. This is the reason for the component override warnings. Caleb Ben Stuggler wrote: Nobody have a clue if these warning are a big problem? Regards Ben ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Warning at the start
On Jun 4, 2010, at 12:10 PM, Caleb James DeLisle wrote: When XWikiPreferences is saved, all of the components are reloaded with new settings. That doesn't look right. IMO there's something else since the annotation loader is not supposed to be called for that. Thanks -Vincent This is the reason for the component override warnings. Caleb Ben Stuggler wrote: Nobody have a clue if these warning are a big problem? Regards Ben ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Warning at the start
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 12:10, Caleb James DeLisle calebdeli...@lavabit.com wrote: When XWikiPreferences is saved, all of the components are reloaded with new settings. This is the reason for the component override warnings. Actually this is true for plugins only, if it really happen for components it's a major bug. Caleb Ben Stuggler wrote: Nobody have a clue if these warning are a big problem? Regards Ben ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- Thomas Mortagne ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] log4j doesn't log information about LDAP connection
Hey, there are some good news and some not so good ones. After I upgraded xwiki to Version 2.3.1 and reconfigured xwiki.cfg the ActiveDirectory-Authentication works. User now can login. But has no rights. Now of course, I have to set some groupmapping. I did it like that: xwiki.authentication.ldap.group_mapping=XWiki.GruppeA=cn=Standort,ou=Standortgruppen,ou=Gruppen,ou=Another Group So now, that doesn't work. There are three things I want to know: 1. do I have to add the dc=domain,dc=suffix string at the end? 2. the last group contains a space - can that be a problem? 3. are there any other things that can be wrong? By the way, GruppeA exists in the wiki. I created it and granted some rights. Best Regards :-) Martin Von: Thomas Mortagne thomas.morta...@xwiki.com An: XWiki Users users@xwiki.org Gesendet: Mittwoch, den 2. Juni 2010, 16:52:41 Uhr Betreff: Re: [xwiki-users] log4j doesn't log information about LDAP connection On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 13:26, Martin Kunze kunze.mar...@yahoo.de wrote: Hello Thomas, this morning I had the possibility to restart the whole server on which xwiki and tomcat are running. You won't beleave me but now there is some Logging and the Starting LDAP authentication string in the xwiki.log. crazy. But authentication fails. (Invalid credentials). xwiki.log sais the following: The provided User is null. We don't try to authenticate, it probably means the user is in non logged mode. This log is because when you access XWiki the authenticator is called with no user for SSO based authenticators. You should have another Starting LDAP authentication with different logs after this one, just look at the time when you try to authenticate and takes the logs from this time and send them here so that i can look at them. Any idea what that means here and what to do??? Thanks for your help!!! -- Martin Try setting trace level instead of debug and see if you have Starting LDAP authentication to really make sure you don't have log because of some very magical authenticator bug, that way we will at least know we have to focus in logging. xwiki.authentication.ldap=1 xwiki.authentication.ldap.server=IP-Adress xwiki.authentication.ldap.port=389 xwiki.authentication.ldap.base_DN=dc=domain,dc=suffix xwiki.authentication.ldap.bind_DN=domain\{0} xwiki.authentication.ldap.bind_pass={1} xwiki.authentication.ldap.UID_attr=sAMAccountName ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- Thomas Mortagne ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] log4j doesn't log information about LDAP connection
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 13:09, Martin Kunze kunze.mar...@yahoo.de wrote: Hey, there are some good news and some not so good ones. After I upgraded xwiki to Version 2.3.1 and reconfigured xwiki.cfg the ActiveDirectory-Authentication works. User now can login. But has no rights. Now of course, I have to set some groupmapping. I did it like that: xwiki.authentication.ldap.group_mapping=XWiki.GruppeA=cn=Standort,ou=Standortgruppen,ou=Gruppen,ou=Another Group So now, that doesn't work. There are three things I want to know: 1. do I have to add the dc=domain,dc=suffix string at the end? The LDAP side has to be the full DN, so yes. 2. the last group contains a space - can that be a problem? No, the DN can contains anything. 3. are there any other things that can be wrong? No, it looks ok. Did you checked if the user is added to the group ? If not then you should look at the debug log. By the way, GruppeA exists in the wiki. I created it and granted some rights. Best Regards :-) Martin Von: Thomas Mortagne thomas.morta...@xwiki.com An: XWiki Users users@xwiki.org Gesendet: Mittwoch, den 2. Juni 2010, 16:52:41 Uhr Betreff: Re: [xwiki-users] log4j doesn't log information about LDAP connection On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 13:26, Martin Kunze kunze.mar...@yahoo.de wrote: Hello Thomas, this morning I had the possibility to restart the whole server on which xwiki and tomcat are running. You won't beleave me but now there is some Logging and the Starting LDAP authentication string in the xwiki.log. crazy. But authentication fails. (Invalid credentials). xwiki.log sais the following: The provided User is null. We don't try to authenticate, it probably means the user is in non logged mode. This log is because when you access XWiki the authenticator is called with no user for SSO based authenticators. You should have another Starting LDAP authentication with different logs after this one, just look at the time when you try to authenticate and takes the logs from this time and send them here so that i can look at them. Any idea what that means here and what to do??? Thanks for your help!!! -- Martin Try setting trace level instead of debug and see if you have Starting LDAP authentication to really make sure you don't have log because of some very magical authenticator bug, that way we will at least know we have to focus in logging. xwiki.authentication.ldap=1 xwiki.authentication.ldap.server=IP-Adress xwiki.authentication.ldap.port=389 xwiki.authentication.ldap.base_DN=dc=domain,dc=suffix xwiki.authentication.ldap.bind_DN=domain\{0} xwiki.authentication.ldap.bind_pass={1} xwiki.authentication.ldap.UID_attr=sAMAccountName ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- Thomas Mortagne ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- Thomas Mortagne ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Formula Macro - native renderer issue
Hi ! I'm sorry for digging up my topic again and again but I really don't know what to do to solve my issue. Isn't there someone who can reproduce this error ? Or it is that there is no one who's able to tell me if the Formula Macro always supports the native renderer ? Thank you again for helping me. Marine Marine Julian wrote: Hello everybody, Does the Formula Macro always support the native renderer ? Indeed, I tried to use it with an other configuration (the third one !!!) : Debian, TexLive, ImageMagick, XEM 2.3. But I had again the same error... Here it is : ERROR formula.FormulaMacro - Invalid renderer: [native]. Falling back to the safe renderer. org.xwiki.component.manager.ComponentLookupException: Failed to render formula using [native] renderer at org.xwiki.rendering.internal.macro.formula.FormulaMacro.render(FormulaMacro.java:162) ... etc Besides, is there a way to redefine the safe renderer ? I would like it to be googlecharts method. The snuggletex method is too limited... -- View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Formula-Macro-rendering-methods-tp4906580p5139336.html Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Warning at the start
Ok, thank you all. I think I ll try to install again all to check if it's a problem with plugins. -- View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Warning-at-the-start-tp5125382p5139591.html Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] log4j doesn't log information about LDAP connection
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 14:21, Thomas Mortagne wrote: On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 13:09, Martin Kunze kunze.mar...@yahoo.de wrote: Hey, there are some good news and some not so good ones. After I upgraded xwiki to Version 2.3.1 and reconfigured xwiki.cfg the ActiveDirectory-Authentication works. User now can login. But has no rights. Now of course, I have to set some groupmapping. I did it like that: xwiki.authentication.ldap.group_mapping=XWiki.GruppeA=cn=Standort,ou=Standortgruppen,ou=Gruppen,ou=Another Group So now, that doesn't work. There are three things I want to know: 1. do I have to add the dc=domain,dc=suffix string at the end? The LDAP side has to be the full DN, so yes. Hey yeah! That's it! Now it works! Great job. Thanks a lot!!! Now to go on in topic I have two more general questions. Maybe you could answer. According to my colleague it would be useful if the user will be logged-in into xwiki automaticly by using the windows-logon-credential. Is this possible? And second: It would be extreamly helpful for our admins when there will be a possibility to manually map LDAP groups to xwiki groups by an graphical UI in the browser. e.g. xwiki lists all (sub)groups of an AD and the admin can map them to existing xwiki groups by clicking. (a bit like the assignment of a user to a group in xwiki.) - Is there any activity planed to implement sth. like that? Regards Martin. ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] log4j doesn't log information about LDAP connection
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 16:30, Martin Kunze kunze.mar...@yahoo.de wrote: On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 14:21, Thomas Mortagne wrote: On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 13:09, Martin Kunze kunze.mar...@yahoo.de wrote: Hey, there are some good news and some not so good ones. After I upgraded xwiki to Version 2.3.1 and reconfigured xwiki.cfg the ActiveDirectory-Authentication works. User now can login. But has no rights. Now of course, I have to set some groupmapping. I did it like that: xwiki.authentication.ldap.group_mapping=XWiki.GruppeA=cn=Standort,ou=Standortgruppen,ou=Gruppen,ou=Another Group So now, that doesn't work. There are three things I want to know: 1. do I have to add the dc=domain,dc=suffix string at the end? The LDAP side has to be the full DN, so yes. Hey yeah! That's it! Now it works! Great job. Thanks a lot!!! Now to go on in topic I have two more general questions. Maybe you could answer. According to my colleague it would be useful if the user will be logged-in into xwiki automaticly by using the windows-logon-credential. Is this possible? Yep it's possible. That would be NTLM authenticator, you can find one on http://svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/xwiki/contrib/sandbox/xwiki-authentication-ntlm/ (it's the source, you will have to build it using maven, see http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/Building) which is working pretty well. The authenticator is documented in the README.txt file. And second: It would be extreamly helpful for our admins when there will be a possibility to manually map LDAP groups to xwiki groups by an graphical UI in the browser. e.g. xwiki lists all (sub)groups of an AD and the admin can map them to existing xwiki groups by clicking. (a bit like the assignment of a user to a group in xwiki.) - Is there any activity planed to implement sth. like that? No one is assigned on it right now or even planned in a near future sorry. But contributions are welcomed ;) Regards Martin. ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- Thomas Mortagne ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[xwiki-users] [Proposal] Rights Management UI
Hi, Take a look at Rights 5 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights5Space Added: * information regarding the advanced rights (inherits, overrides) * icons built together as a whole http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/icons.png * representation of advanced rights with the same abstract icon, but with different color (no text; we can debate this) http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/color.png * inheritance arrow married with +/- IMGs (in case of browser problem) - collapsed: http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/rights5Space.png - expanded: http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/rights5SpaceExpanded.png On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:42, Denis Gervalle d...@softec.lu wrote: Hi Caty, On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 18:09, Ecaterina Valica vali...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Denis, I want to thank you again for all the help you are giving :P This is pleasure to participate especially because you provide really good proposals. I would also like to see others participating, currently the discussion is becoming to much bilateral IMO. Please take a look at a proposal for V3 and my 3) version with elements from Rights2 :) http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Proposal and in action http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Space Really nice job ! I really appreciate. The prototype is not reflecting the desired interaction: both inherited info and rights change appear on hover (right icon and arrow), instead of hover | click. I am not sure what are really your intend. I think that the big tooltips describing the rights should be the only tooltips, and should be show on hover only after a small timeout (like the yellow one currently). Clicking any where on the +/- icon or v would then open the menu. Is it what you try ? yes, on hover show the tooltip, on click show the menu. That v needs to be an arrow like the one we use in the action menus. On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 19:06, Denis Gervalle d...@softec.lu wrote: Caty, Really nice and interesting post, I will try to reach that level... but without visual :\ I really think that using the collapsed view for editing would helps basic users to have a simplified and more easy interface to understand. We may even imagine that only advanced user (those marked so in their profile), has access to the expanded view. I think that the collapsed view missed an additional icon that summarize the rights that are not shown. This one would only be shown if there is any non-defaulted additional right in action. This is a signal that extended rights are in use (See it like the grey box of Windows when special rights are setup, which is inviting to go into advanced view to know more). This one would be obviously not editable, and should probably work like the ... or replace it ? In place of the ... . Concerning the ..., I am not sure, but I would also prefer to see a textual link advanced in small font, and only visible when row is hovered. http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Proposal#HRowhover Sorry to insist, but the information regarding the advanced rights is still missing in collapsed mode. I really would like to have a indicator that some advanced rights has been set locally or not without having to go advanced mode. Else, you will have to expand all rows to check that information, which is not practical. Order of right are not significant, so I would prefer that in all view, these where in the same order, with the basic right first (V/C/E/D/A/P) and the additional right in their order of registration (hope that it will stay constant... or we will have to find a way to keep them ordered). The right part of each icon should be grayed if the right is inherited and not grayed if the right is set locally, this improve the information provided in V3. http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Proposal#HAfterclick The problem with this icons (taken from Silk) is that there is little difference for View, Comment, Admin icons between the two states (inherited, locally set) - but this is something we can easily improve (by changing the icons and looking for some more contrast). Example: This is how they look when all rights are set locally (full color) http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights43Proposal/fullColors.png I also think that the +/- (which is never grayed) could be nearer to the right icon. Maybe you could use a green V and a read stop in place of +/- ? The other mockup versions (like
[xwiki-users] Importing a blog from Blogger
Is there an easy way to systematically copy the date, content (and maybe comments) of my posts on Blogger into a blog I've created in XWiki? I've read some articles which suggest reading each blog entry as HTML, converting that to XWiki markup and then using a XML-RPC to post them programmatically to XWiki. I thought about creating XAR files to import but this seems even more difficult. Any suggestions? -- View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Importing-a-blog-from-Blogger-tp5140337p5140337.html Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [Proposal] Rights Management UI
Hi Caty, This version is really cool, just some minor comments: When I mouse over some right icon (FF 3.6), the dropdown menu with allow/deny/etc. is shown, but this menu is very hard to see, because it has almost the same color as the background and the icons are right above the right icons from the line below. The popup with the hint what right it is and why it is inherited is really helpful, but to open it I need to hit the small triangle near to the icon, otherwise only the dropdown menu is shown (but maybe its just because it is not the final version). This might be quite hard for some people. I'd made the icons larger (at least 24x24) and add more contrast (right now inherited rights look like disabled GUI controls to me), especially to the dropdown menu, view right icon and inherited right arrow from the menu. Alex On 06/04/2010 06:54 PM, Ecaterina Valica wrote: Hi, Take a look at Rights 5 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights5Space Added: * information regarding the advanced rights (inherits, overrides) * icons built together as a whole http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/icons.png * representation of advanced rights with the same abstract icon, but with different color (no text; we can debate this) http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/color.png * inheritance arrow married with +/- IMGs (in case of browser problem) - collapsed: http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/rights5Space.png - expanded: http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/rights5SpaceExpanded.png On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:42, Denis Gervalle d...@softec.lu wrote: Hi Caty, On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 18:09, Ecaterina Valica vali...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Denis, I want to thank you again for all the help you are giving :P This is pleasure to participate especially because you provide really good proposals. I would also like to see others participating, currently the discussion is becoming to much bilateral IMO. Please take a look at a proposal for V3 and my 3) version with elements from Rights2 :) http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Proposal and in action http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Space Really nice job ! I really appreciate. The prototype is not reflecting the desired interaction: both inherited info and rights change appear on hover (right icon and arrow), instead of hover | click. I am not sure what are really your intend. I think that the big tooltips describing the rights should be the only tooltips, and should be show on hover only after a small timeout (like the yellow one currently). Clicking any where on the +/- icon or v would then open the menu. Is it what you try ? yes, on hover show the tooltip, on click show the menu. snip ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Rights Management UI
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 20:57, Alex Busenius alex.busen...@xwiki.com wrote: Hi Caty, This version is really cool, just some minor comments: When I mouse over some right icon (FF 3.6), the dropdown menu with allow/deny/etc. is shown, but this menu is very hard to see, because it has almost the same color as the background and the icons are right above the right icons from the line below. The popup with the hint what right it is and why it is inherited is really helpful, but to open it I need to hit the small triangle near to the icon, otherwise only the dropdown menu is shown (but maybe its just because it is not the final version). This might be quite hard for some people. Hi Alex, yes I know - I reused existing classes from XWiki, didn't made anything custom, that's why is acting like this. The desired interaction will be on hover (icon or arrow) show the inheritance tooltip, on click show the menu. I'd made the icons larger (at least 24x24) and add more contrast (right now inherited rights look like disabled GUI controls to me), especially to the dropdown menu, view right icon and inherited right arrow from the menu. The main disadvantage of this proposal is it's contrast: ColorThemes variables (highlightColor, secondaryBackgroundColor) and icons. I choose the icons form Silk set, because they are used everywhere in XWiki. The rationale was the consistency and lookfeel. That's why they all are 16x16. If we choose this version as the final one, but we are not pleased with these icons, we need to find another set (maybe as you suggested with 24x24 size) or create it from scratch (then we need to think about the icon representation). The new set should have high contrast between inherited/overridden state. Thanks Alex :) Caty Alex On 06/04/2010 06:54 PM, Ecaterina Valica wrote: Hi, Take a look at Rights 5 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights5Space Added: * information regarding the advanced rights (inherits, overrides) * icons built together as a whole http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/icons.png * representation of advanced rights with the same abstract icon, but with different color (no text; we can debate this) http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/color.png * inheritance arrow married with +/- IMGs (in case of browser problem) - collapsed: http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/rights5Space.png - expanded: http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/rights5SpaceExpanded.png On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:42, Denis Gervalle d...@softec.lu wrote: Hi Caty, On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 18:09, Ecaterina Valica vali...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Denis, I want to thank you again for all the help you are giving :P This is pleasure to participate especially because you provide really good proposals. I would also like to see others participating, currently the discussion is becoming to much bilateral IMO. Please take a look at a proposal for V3 and my 3) version with elements from Rights2 :) http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Proposal and in action http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Space Really nice job ! I really appreciate. The prototype is not reflecting the desired interaction: both inherited info and rights change appear on hover (right icon and arrow), instead of hover | click. I am not sure what are really your intend. I think that the big tooltips describing the rights should be the only tooltips, and should be show on hover only after a small timeout (like the yellow one currently). Clicking any where on the +/- icon or v would then open the menu. Is it what you try ? yes, on hover show the tooltip, on click show the menu. snip ___ devs mailing list d...@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Rights Management UI
Hello all, I really like the last proposal, Caty :) On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Alex Busenius alex.busen...@xwiki.com wrote: Hi Caty, This version is really cool, just some minor comments: When I mouse over some right icon (FF 3.6), the dropdown menu with allow/deny/etc. is shown, but this menu is very hard to see, because it has almost the same color as the background and the icons are right above the right icons from the line below. The popup with the hint what right it is and why it is inherited is really helpful, but to open it I need to hit the small triangle near to the icon, otherwise only the dropdown menu is shown (but maybe its just because it is not the final version). This might be quite hard for some people. I'd made the icons larger (at least 24x24) and add more contrast (right now inherited rights look like disabled GUI controls to me), especially to the dropdown menu, view right icon and inherited right arrow from the menu. I think that the tooltip can be added on mouse click. This would imply adding a nice question mark instead of that small arrow, and the user would click anywhere on the span with the class name summary. And another improvement would be to add more padding to the drop down menus. Caty is currently using the secondary background color, right? Maybe we should use the highlight color, but I'm not sure of that. Raluca. Alex On 06/04/2010 06:54 PM, Ecaterina Valica wrote: Hi, Take a look at Rights 5 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights5Space Added: * information regarding the advanced rights (inherits, overrides) * icons built together as a whole http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/icons.png * representation of advanced rights with the same abstract icon, but with different color (no text; we can debate this) http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/color.png * inheritance arrow married with +/- IMGs (in case of browser problem) - collapsed: http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/rights5Space.png - expanded: http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/rights5SpaceExpanded.png On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:42, Denis Gervalle d...@softec.lu wrote: Hi Caty, On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 18:09, Ecaterina Valica vali...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Denis, I want to thank you again for all the help you are giving :P This is pleasure to participate especially because you provide really good proposals. I would also like to see others participating, currently the discussion is becoming to much bilateral IMO. Please take a look at a proposal for V3 and my 3) version with elements from Rights2 :) http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Proposal and in action http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Space Really nice job ! I really appreciate. The prototype is not reflecting the desired interaction: both inherited info and rights change appear on hover (right icon and arrow), instead of hover | click. I am not sure what are really your intend. I think that the big tooltips describing the rights should be the only tooltips, and should be show on hover only after a small timeout (like the yellow one currently). Clicking any where on the +/- icon or v would then open the menu. Is it what you try ? yes, on hover show the tooltip, on click show the menu. snip ___ devs mailing list d...@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Rights Management UI
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Ecaterina Valica vali...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 20:57, Alex Busenius alex.busen...@xwiki.com wrote: Hi Caty, This version is really cool, just some minor comments: When I mouse over some right icon (FF 3.6), the dropdown menu with allow/deny/etc. is shown, but this menu is very hard to see, because it has almost the same color as the background and the icons are right above the right icons from the line below. The popup with the hint what right it is and why it is inherited is really helpful, but to open it I need to hit the small triangle near to the icon, otherwise only the dropdown menu is shown (but maybe its just because it is not the final version). This might be quite hard for some people. Hi Alex, yes I know - I reused existing classes from XWiki, didn't made anything custom, that's why is acting like this. The desired interaction will be on hover (icon or arrow) show the inheritance tooltip, on click show the menu. If so, I think that the tooltip will be kind of annoying. But we should first see it in action, maybe I'll find some time to work on this. Raluca. I'd made the icons larger (at least 24x24) and add more contrast (right now inherited rights look like disabled GUI controls to me), especially to the dropdown menu, view right icon and inherited right arrow from the menu. The main disadvantage of this proposal is it's contrast: ColorThemes variables (highlightColor, secondaryBackgroundColor) and icons. I choose the icons form Silk set, because they are used everywhere in XWiki. The rationale was the consistency and lookfeel. That's why they all are 16x16. If we choose this version as the final one, but we are not pleased with these icons, we need to find another set (maybe as you suggested with 24x24 size) or create it from scratch (then we need to think about the icon representation). The new set should have high contrast between inherited/overridden state. Thanks Alex :) Caty Alex On 06/04/2010 06:54 PM, Ecaterina Valica wrote: Hi, Take a look at Rights 5 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights5Space Added: * information regarding the advanced rights (inherits, overrides) * icons built together as a whole http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/icons.png * representation of advanced rights with the same abstract icon, but with different color (no text; we can debate this) http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/color.png * inheritance arrow married with +/- IMGs (in case of browser problem) - collapsed: http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/rights5Space.png - expanded: http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/rights5SpaceExpanded.png On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:42, Denis Gervalle d...@softec.lu wrote: Hi Caty, On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 18:09, Ecaterina Valica vali...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Denis, I want to thank you again for all the help you are giving :P This is pleasure to participate especially because you provide really good proposals. I would also like to see others participating, currently the discussion is becoming to much bilateral IMO. Please take a look at a proposal for V3 and my 3) version with elements from Rights2 :) http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Proposal and in action http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Space Really nice job ! I really appreciate. The prototype is not reflecting the desired interaction: both inherited info and rights change appear on hover (right icon and arrow), instead of hover | click. I am not sure what are really your intend. I think that the big tooltips describing the rights should be the only tooltips, and should be show on hover only after a small timeout (like the yellow one currently). Clicking any where on the +/- icon or v would then open the menu. Is it what you try ? yes, on hover show the tooltip, on click show the menu. snip ___ devs mailing list d...@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Rights Management UI
Hi Caty, On 06/04/2010 08:23 PM, Ecaterina Valica wrote: On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 20:57, Alex Busenius alex.busen...@xwiki.com wrote: Hi Caty, This version is really cool, just some minor comments: When I mouse over some right icon (FF 3.6), the dropdown menu with allow/deny/etc. is shown, but this menu is very hard to see, because it has almost the same color as the background and the icons are right above the right icons from the line below. The popup with the hint what right it is and why it is inherited is really helpful, but to open it I need to hit the small triangle near to the icon, otherwise only the dropdown menu is shown (but maybe its just because it is not the final version). This might be quite hard for some people. Hi Alex, yes I know - I reused existing classes from XWiki, didn't made anything custom, that's why is acting like this. The desired interaction will be on hover (icon or arrow) show the inheritance tooltip, on click show the menu. Ok, that will be indeed much better. I'd made the icons larger (at least 24x24) and add more contrast (right now inherited rights look like disabled GUI controls to me), especially to the dropdown menu, view right icon and inherited right arrow from the menu. The main disadvantage of this proposal is it's contrast: ColorThemes variables (highlightColor, secondaryBackgroundColor) and icons. I choose the icons form Silk set, because they are used everywhere in XWiki. The rationale was the consistency and lookfeel. That's why they all are 16x16. If we choose this version as the final one, but we are not pleased with these icons, we need to find another set (maybe as you suggested with 24x24 size) or create it from scratch (then we need to think about the icon representation). The new set should have high contrast between inherited/overridden state. I see, this complicates things, but I would really prefer larger icons, lets see what others say... How about adding a dark border to the dropdown menu or changing its color to the same one used for Export menu etc.? If the icons are not transparent (in the middle), this would also improve the contrast a lot. Alex Thanks Alex :) Caty Alex On 06/04/2010 06:54 PM, Ecaterina Valica wrote: Hi, Take a look at Rights 5 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights5Space Added: * information regarding the advanced rights (inherits, overrides) * icons built together as a whole http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/icons.png * representation of advanced rights with the same abstract icon, but with different color (no text; we can debate this) http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/color.png * inheritance arrow married with +/- IMGs (in case of browser problem) - collapsed: http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/rights5Space.png - expanded: http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/rights5SpaceExpanded.png On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:42, Denis Gervalle d...@softec.lu wrote: Hi Caty, On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 18:09, Ecaterina Valica vali...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Denis, I want to thank you again for all the help you are giving :P This is pleasure to participate especially because you provide really good proposals. I would also like to see others participating, currently the discussion is becoming to much bilateral IMO. Please take a look at a proposal for V3 and my 3) version with elements from Rights2 :) http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Proposal and in action http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Space Really nice job ! I really appreciate. The prototype is not reflecting the desired interaction: both inherited info and rights change appear on hover (right icon and arrow), instead of hover | click. I am not sure what are really your intend. I think that the big tooltips describing the rights should be the only tooltips, and should be show on hover only after a small timeout (like the yellow one currently). Clicking any where on the +/- icon or v would then open the menu. Is it what you try ? yes, on hover show the tooltip, on click show the menu. snip ___ devs mailing list d...@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs ___ devs mailing list d...@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[xwiki-users] [myxwiki] new wiki request
hey guys, I'm an individual interested in developing an open-source solution for a referenced, collaborative textbook. I think that the Xwiki platform is extremely exciting, and would be ideal for my needs. I would love to use your community farm to develop and prototype. If you could host me on your server, that would be excellent. Hopefully, when my skills have developed more, I could contribute to some of the community project. Best, Philip Brunetti ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Importing a blog from Blogger
I would write a groovy script to pull the files in. You can run the script on an XWiki installation on your desktop computer. Maybe use use java's File to get the directory containing all of the pages and then file.listFiles to get the files inside of the directory. Use standard java fileIO code to read the content. The loop will look something like: newDoc = xwiki.getDocument(documentName); newDoc.setContent(contentRenderedToXWiki2Format); newDoc.save() I know there is an XHTML parser and an XWiki2 renderer, you'll have to experiment with getting them working (I haven't used them). The javadoc: http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/DevGuide/API/xwiki-core-rendering-api-2.3.1-javadoc.jar/index.html Once you have them on a local machine you can export as an xar and then move them to the server (if you don't have programming access on the server.) Great to see you're upgrading to better blogging software ;) Caleb timothygordon32 wrote: Is there an easy way to systematically copy the date, content (and maybe comments) of my posts on Blogger into a blog I've created in XWiki? I've read some articles which suggest reading each blog entry as HTML, converting that to XWiki markup and then using a XML-RPC to post them programmatically to XWiki. I thought about creating XAR files to import but this seems even more difficult. Any suggestions? ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [myxwiki] new wiki request
On 06/04/2010 09:23 PM, Philip Brunetti wrote: hey guys, I'm an individual interested in developing an open-source solution for a referenced, collaborative textbook. I think that the Xwiki platform is extremely exciting, and would be ideal for my needs. I would love to use your community farm to develop and prototype. If you could host me on your server, that would be excellent. Hopefully, when my skills have developed more, I could contribute to some of the community project. Sure, but we need some information: You’ll also need to register on myxwiki.org and give your user name in the mail, as well as the server name you want for your wiki (the name that will be used before .myxwiki.org to access the wiki). -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [Proposal] Rights Management UI
Hi Caty, I am glad to see that others are looking at what we do, and it is good time for them to comment now, since I will not have many more comments now :) I have replied to some of your comment below... On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 18:54, Ecaterina Valica vali...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Take a look at Rights 5 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights5Space Added: * information regarding the advanced rights (inherits, overrides) * icons built together as a whole http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/icons.png * representation of advanced rights with the same abstract icon, but with different color (no text; we can debate this) http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/color.png * inheritance arrow married with +/- IMGs (in case of browser problem) - collapsed: http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/rights5Space.png - expanded: http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/rights5SpaceExpanded.png On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:42, Denis Gervalle d...@softec.lu wrote: Hi Caty, On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 18:09, Ecaterina Valica vali...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Denis, I want to thank you again for all the help you are giving :P This is pleasure to participate especially because you provide really good proposals. I would also like to see others participating, currently the discussion is becoming to much bilateral IMO. Please take a look at a proposal for V3 and my 3) version with elements from Rights2 :) http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Proposal and in action http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Space Really nice job ! I really appreciate. The prototype is not reflecting the desired interaction: both inherited info and rights change appear on hover (right icon and arrow), instead of hover | click. I am not sure what are really your intend. I think that the big tooltips describing the rights should be the only tooltips, and should be show on hover only after a small timeout (like the yellow one currently). Clicking any where on the +/- icon or v would then open the menu. Is it what you try ? yes, on hover show the tooltip, on click show the menu. This is perfect, but you should include a little timeout for the tooltips, or it will be too much invasive. From the reaction of Alex and Raluca, I really hope you will be able to implement the correct interaction in your samples, since this seems to cause a lot of confusion. If you can't, let me know, I will try to find some time to have a look at it. That v needs to be an arrow like the one we use in the action menus. On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 19:06, Denis Gervalle d...@softec.lu wrote: Caty, Really nice and interesting post, I will try to reach that level... but without visual :\ I really think that using the collapsed view for editing would helps basic users to have a simplified and more easy interface to understand. We may even imagine that only advanced user (those marked so in their profile), has access to the expanded view. I think that the collapsed view missed an additional icon that summarize the rights that are not shown. This one would only be shown if there is any non-defaulted additional right in action. This is a signal that extended rights are in use (See it like the grey box of Windows when special rights are setup, which is inviting to go into advanced view to know more). This one would be obviously not editable, and should probably work like the ... or replace it ? In place of the ... . Concerning the ..., I am not sure, but I would also prefer to see a textual link advanced in small font, and only visible when row is hovered. http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Proposal#HRowhover Sorry to insist, but the information regarding the advanced rights is still missing in collapsed mode. I really would like to have a indicator that some advanced rights has been set locally or not without having to go advanced mode. Else, you will have to expand all rows to check that information, which is not practical. Order of right are not significant, so I would prefer that in all view, these where in the same order, with the basic right first (V/C/E/D/A/P) and the additional right in their order of registration (hope that it will stay constant... or we will have to find a way to keep them ordered). The right part of each icon should be grayed if the right is inherited and not grayed if the right is set locally, this improve the information provided in V3.
Re: [xwiki-users] [myxwiki] new wiki request
Woops! Not exactly confidence-inspiring...I know. Let's try again. User name: Philip_Brunetti Server Name: noddle.myxwiki.org Thanks again. Sorry to waste your time. Philip Brunetti pbrun...@gmail.com hey guys, I'm an individual interested in developing an open-source solution for a referenced, collaborative textbook. I think that the Xwiki platform is extremely exciting, and would be ideal for my needs. I would love to use your community farm to develop and prototype. If you could host me on your server, that would be excellent. Hopefully, when my skills have developed more, I could contribute to some of the community project. Sure, but we need some information: You’ll also need to register on myxwiki.org and give your user name in the mail, as well as the server name you want for your wiki (the name that will be used before .myxwiki.org to access the wiki). ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users