[xwiki-users] Content Restriction Question

2010-02-02 Thread Rick Hadsall
All,

Is there a way to hide content by group within XWiki?  For example, if I 
wanted a panel to show a link that only group foo has access to, how 
could I make it so only users with group foo see the link in the panel 
(because only group foo has access to the page/space that the link 
ponits to)?

Rick

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[xwiki-users] Problem with a Downloaded Macro (RSSAggregator)

2010-01-25 Thread Rick Hadsall
I'm getting this after installing the RssAggregator macro XAR and using it in a 
page:

 
 Failed to execute macro: groovy
 
 org.xwiki.rendering.macro.MacroExecutionException: You don't have the right 
 to execute this script
   at 
 org.xwiki.rendering.macro.script.AbstractJSR223ScriptMacro.execute(AbstractJSR223ScriptMacro.java:134)
   at 
 org.xwiki.rendering.macro.script.AbstractJSR223ScriptMacro.execute(AbstractJSR223ScriptMacro.java:50)
   at 
 org.xwiki.rendering.internal.transformation.MacroTransformation.transformOnce(MacroTransformation.java:175)
 etc...
 

Ideas? 

Rick

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Re: [xwiki-users] Problem with a Downloaded Macro (RSSAggregator)

2010-01-25 Thread Rick Hadsall
Jerome Velociter wrote:
 Hello Rick,

 You need to save the macro document (Macros.RssAggregatorMacro IIRC) 
 with a user that has the programming access level granted.

   

Hi Jerome,

I saved it as the Admin user - it didn't have Program access, but I 
added it afterward.  Do I have to re-install the macro?  If so how do I 
accomplish that?

Rick

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Re: [xwiki-users] Blog: Showing teasers inline on a wiki page

2010-01-24 Thread Rick Hadsall
Guillaume Lerouge wrote:

 Yes, definitely. The blog actually used to do this but we changed it some
 time ago because when content got truncated sometimes markup was no longer
 closed properly, which led to wome weird display on the blog homepage (half
 of the text getting underlined, stuff like that).

 With the new rendering engine, it could be possible to write a smart
 snippet algorithm that would cut the markup in the right place. In the
 default version, you'll notice that if you manually fill the summary field
 of a blog post it gets displayed on the blog homepage instead of the actual
 article content, which I believe is close to the behavior you're looking
 for. If that's what you want to do, follow the indications on
 http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Applications/BlogApplication to create
 a blog out of any page.
   
OK.  I'll give this a try.  In theory the engine could be smart enough 
to know if it is going to truncate in the middle of markup and adjust 
accordingly, but having people provide a summary is a decent alternative.

But what I'm trying to do is create the blogs, but then be able to list 
the blogs on another regular wiki/content page - either in a list or a 
summary format.  I don't want to force the user to go to the blog page 
to get the teasers for that content - I'd like to be able to tease the 
content on another page or two (where relevant, by category, or blog, 
etc) and let them click to read the full thing.
 By the way, I'd be interested in hearing your feedback about XWiki as
 compared to Confluence. Specifically, if you were to name one thing you like
 best in XWiki vs Confluence and one thing you like best in Confluence
 compared to XWiki, what would those be?
   
Well, it's probably too soon to tell as I'm very new with XWiki and very 
comfortable with Confluence.  My sense is that XWiki has a long way to 
go - Confluence's markup language is excellent, and you can do pretty 
much anything you want with the macros they provide and the parameters 
for them.  For example with the blog issue you simply use the blog macro 
on any page and pass it the parameters for which blogs you want 
(category, space, date ranges, what kind of listing, etc) and voila.  
There's no need to know Velocity to do anything so you don't have all 
this code that regular editors and site maintainers won't ever have a 
prayer of knowing all over the place.  XWiki's preview doesn't work 
correctly - often you will preview and want to go back to editor and 
it's broken.  For example, edit a blog and then preview, and when you go 
back to edit it will have a different look (no 'summary' and 'content' 
pane, just one pane, and an error in it).  Very annoying.  The number of 
plug-ins and add-ons to confluence is massive - it allows a richness of 
content that is unmatched by pretty much any other product on the 
market.  It's something that, if I were XWiki, I would target to make 
plugins compatible with Confluence's.  Confluence's permissions seem to 
be easier to use and apply to discrete pages, spaces, and functions 
within than pretty much any other product's.  Confluence's macros around 
inclusion of Confluence content really set it apart from XWiki.  Pretty 
much anything in Confluence can be included on a page through a macro.  
That's something that really helps.  I know you can code it in XWiki but 
that really is not something that makes sense for a site managed by end 
users.

See:
http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/XWikiSyntax
versus
http://sandbox.onconfluence.com/renderer/notationhelp.action?section=all


The panels on XWiki are awesome.  That's really an easy way to create 
that sort of thing - Confluence can't do it - you have to do sections 
and such and it's not perfect.  You can do it, but it's not as easy as 
XWiki's. 

Again- take with a bit of a grain of salt because I'm much, much more 
familiar with Confluence.  I'm using XWiki for a client who doesn't want 
to pay the license fee, which is a major advantage for XWiki.  But right 
now, it's not quite there as far as ease of use or richness/completeness 
of features.



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Re: [xwiki-users] Blog: Showing teasers inline on a wiki page

2010-01-24 Thread Rick Hadsall
Vincent Massol wrote:

 First let me thank you a lot for the feedback, that's really useful for us.

   
No problem.  As I continue to learn I'll give more.
 I'd be happy to know if you still think there are things better done in the 
 confluence syntax and that xwiki's syntax cannot do (I believe the opposite 
 is true).

 Also, to be noted, is that XWiki is polyglot ie it supports several syntaxes, 
 amongst which Confluence syntax (although if you use it you won't be able to 
 use our new WYSIWYG editor since right now it only supports XWiki Syntax 1.0).

   
Cheers, Vincent.  I'll take a look at this in more depth.  One question 
- does the WYSIWYG support pages that use the XWiki Syntax 2.0 though?  
I'd avoid using confluence syntax on XWiki personally, and will 
recommend my users to do the same.

Note: I am having trouble right now having two separate named blogs in 
one space.  I figured out how to do it in theory by renaming Blog to 
whatever I want it to be, but since it relies heavily on templates and 
what not from the Blog _space_, it doesn't actually work in practice.  
But I will mess with the macros to see if this is necessary because if I 
can control the display of blog teasers by category using an XWiki 
macro, I'll do that.
 I agree that confluence has an edge in term of number of macros. Where 
 XWiki catches up I believe is with the ability to write 
 velocity/groovy/ruby/python scripts directly in pages along with a 
 powerful API accessible from theses scripting language which makes it 
 relatively easy to script any missing macro. However this is no 
 substitute for more macros since standard users may not have the 
 skills to write such scripts.
   
Inline scripting is a bad idea, though.  But one thing that you might 
want to do - and maybe you have it already, but the default pages don't 
seem to make use of it - it allow user macros and global macros that are 
code/markup/macros that can be referred to as a standard XWiki macro w/ 
parameters.  Confluence does this - you can put the scripting and stuff 
in the user macro or the space macro - which isn't Java code, but this 
kind of code - and then users use the resulting macro w/ parameters in 
the actual pages.  This is much better as it's easier for end-users to 
understand and work with.  Code inline in the page - they'll just back 
away from the keyboard and call someone else, which defeats the purpose.

 I remember using the confluence blog a long time ago (around 2005) and I 
 didn't like it because it was something part of the Confluence core and you 
 couldn't modify it to your needs. For example it had not ability to modify 
 the date of a post (that's probably been added since then) and there was no 
 way I could add it (except to go in java dev mode and rewrite the blog 
 provided I had access to the sources). In XWiki the blog application is 
 contained in wiki pages and you can edit them and modify them to suit your 
 exact needs, where needed.

   
No, I think even in 3.1 you can't back-date the blog post, which is 
stupid.  I really like that you can do that - we're starting a new site, 
we have extant blog posts - I want to preserve the continuity.  Can't do 
that on Confluence, so you're correct.
   
   
  XWiki's preview doesn't work 
 correctly - often you will preview and want to go back to editor and 
 it's broken.  For example, edit a blog and then preview, and when you go 
 back to edit it will have a different look (no 'summary' and 'content' 
 pane, just one pane, and an error in it).  Very annoying.
 

 This is strange. Could it be that you're using a version of XWiki where the 
 blog was still using the old wysiwyg editor? What version of XWiki Enterprise 
 are you using?

   
XWiki Enterprise 2.1.25683


   
  It's something that, if I were XWiki, I would target to make 
 plugins compatible with Confluence's.
 

 Yes we wanted to do this at one point but it's not something easy to do. We'd 
 need a confluence runtime, ie implement all APIs available from confluence 
 plugins which is probably the whole platform if we wanted to be 100% 
 compatible.

   
Yes, that's the problem.  Perhaps a JAR with a package that would allow 
developers to map functions or something- something to make it easier to 
port to XWiki.  If it's easy, they'll do it.  Since many (most??) 
Confluence add-ons are open source you guys could do 5-10 and release 
them with lots of code comments and documentation to show how easy it 
is. One thing that is clear is that XWiki CAN do whatever Confluence can.
 I also agree here. XWiki permissions are probably more powerful but still too 
 complex to use. We have scheduled to work on this in the near future.
   
That's great news!

   
 Yes I know this confluence page but you shouldn't compare it with our syntax 
 page. On our syntax page we only describe the syntax not macros (we only 
 refer to it).

 Our macro page is here:
 http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Macros/

 I 

Re: [xwiki-users] Blog: Showing teasers inline on a wiki page

2010-01-24 Thread Rick Hadsall
Vincent Massol wrote:
 ...
 
Thank you for all your suggestions, pointers, and comments.  Clearly 
support is not a problem with XWiki.  I'll start working with this 
information some more now and see if that helps me get the project 
moving faster!

 One thing I'm also not clear how to do is if I wanted to put up a form 
 on a page that collects some information and then e-mails it to someone 
 (e.g., a request for information form) - is that something I can even do 
 at all?  That would be okay to have scripting since it'd need CAPTCHA 
 and all that.
 

 Re captcha we have just committed a captcha component. You'll have it in XE 
 2.2 milestone 2 to be released next week.
 Re mail, we have a mail sender plugin:
 http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Plugins/MailSenderPlugin
   
Yep.  Do you have a tutorial on how to combine that with a form?  I need 
to create a page that has a bunch of fields (Name, address, some free 
form, etc) and then have everything submitted get e-mailed to someone to 
process. 

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[xwiki-users] Blog: Showing teasers inline on a wiki page

2010-01-15 Thread Rick Hadsall
Hi,

I'm new to XWiki but know Confluence pretty well.  I'd like to be able to do
something similar to what Confluence does with their blog macro - be able to
show 1..n recent blog posts on a page, either just showing the titles (which
we can do with Velocity as per the default Dashboard), or showing a teaser
that shows the title, date posted, poster, and a small intro snippet of the
post... 

Format would be like:

TITLE
snippet...
...
...
 Posted by user at datetime (possibly comment stats etc)

Is there a way to do this in XWiki?

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