[USMA:54265] RE: FPLA and UPLR Inspectors
Hi Gene, Given the on-going battle of state-vs-federal battles and the way in which the federal government has neglected its duty to control weights and measures, it would not surprise me to see that each state has its own system of regulation. May I suggest that you visit http://www.bipm.org/en/cipm-mra/. Martin -Original Message- From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf Of mechtly, eugene a Sent: 05 August 2014 03:29 To: U.S. Metric Association Cc: carol.hock...@nist.gov; kenneth.butc...@nist.gov Subject: [USMA:54264] RE: FPLA and UPLR Inspectors Jim (Frysinger), Thanks for your comments on your personsal experiences with markeding regulators. It is good that farmers are allowed to sell at least some of their *fresh products*, labeled only in SI Units. As with eggs, I assume that private sales of meat and poultry are more tightly regulated for public health reasons, whatever the units of masurement used on their labels.. Recently, here in Illinois, regulation of baked goods has been relaxed. Certified kitchens are no longer required. Farmers' Markets are loaded with unregulated baked goods. Gene From: James [j...@metricmethods.com] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 8:35 PM To: mechtly, eugene a; U.S. Metric Association Cc: carol.hock...@nist.gov; kenneth.butc...@nist.gov Subject: Re: [USMA:54262] FPLA and UPLR Inspectors Gene, I imagine that most of the inspectors are all state-level employees. I interacted with the Tennessee office controlling labels, weights, and measures several years ago. I found that I could indeed sell produce at farmers' markets solely in metric units, should I choose to do so. My scale, if I used one, required certification and that, too, could be done in metric units. Unfortunately, selling fresh eggs or produced food products requires a certified kitchen and training and a certification examination for the operator. It's just too darned expensive to do here just for fun. Why don't you call your state's office of weights and measures. Your Illinois Secretary of State could tell you what that office is called in Illinois and where it fits in the state government hierarchy. Jim -- James R. Frysinger 632 Stoney Point Mountain Road Doyle TN 38559-3030 (C) 931.212.0267 (H) 931.657.3107 (F) 931.657.3108 On 2014-08-04 19:36, mechtly, eugene a wrote: I am trying to learn more about the FPLA and UPLR Inspectors; the Federal, State, and local (city) officials who have the authority to take products (packages) off sale if they do not meet the requirrements stated in NIST Handbooks 44, 130, and 133. Is there a database (registry) of Inspectors? (name and office address or other contact information)? Is each, a federal, state, or local employee? Is the employer a federal, State, or local authority? e.g. USDA, FDA, ATF, EPA, County __, City of ___? What NIST Training Course(s) has each Inspector passed? Is the Inspector elected or appointed? Is the Inspector a voting member of the NCWM? What NCWM committees has each Inspector served on and when? etc. All this is public information, and I shall be surproised if it is not available somwhere from NIST, from the NCWM, or from State or local records. Eugene Mechtly
[USMA:54267] RE: 3670 g
Dave, Congratulations on your granddaughter. I am sure that she is worth her weight in gold. For the record, gold is measured in troy ounces (about 31 g) and there are 12 troy ounces in one troy pound. J Regards Martin From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf Of cont...@metricpioneer.com Sent: 05 August 2014 16:42 To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:54266] 3670 g Willow Eve, my first grandchild was born last night (sharing birthday with our President Barack Obama). I visited my daughter Emunah this monring at hospital who gave me the weight in ounces. I asked her how many ounces in a pound. Her reply, twelve? She was not sure. Rather than convert pounds and ounces to grams, I asked at reception. Hospital staff quickly found 3670 g on computer. (Willow is a wee bit on the heavy side; maybe it is all that hair.) I had to explain to my co-workers that Willow weighs a bit less than a couple of 2 liter bottles of pop. David Pearl www.MetricPioneer.com 503-428-4917
[USMA:54268] Re: 3670 g
My older son Evan had an It's a Boy! sticker on his Kaiser Hospital bassinette indicating that he was 3690g. Jeffrey, two years later, was 4390g. I have no idea what that is in colonial units because I never needed to know. I just know Evan was medium sized and Jeffrey was big. Thirty years later, that is still the case (Evan medium size, Jeffrey big). Carleton - Original Message - From: cont...@metricpioneer.com To: USMA usma@colostate.edu Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 11:41:39 AM Subject: [USMA:54266] 3670 g Willow Eve, my first grandchild was born last night (sharing birthday with our President Barack Obama). I visited my daughter Emunah this monring at hospital who gave me the weight in ounces. I asked her how many ounces in a pound. Her reply, twelve? She was not sure. Rather than convert pounds and ounces to grams, I asked at reception. Hospital staff quickly found 3670 g on computer. (Willow is a wee bit on the heavy side; maybe it is all that hair.) I had to explain to my co-workers that Willow weighs a bit less than a couple of 2 liter bottles of pop. David Pearl www.MetricPioneer.com 503-428-4917
[USMA:54269] Re: 3670 g
Congratulations, Grandpa! Your daughter and granddaughter are the very picture of health and they make a beautiful picture together. According to Reuters, in the U.S. in 2005 the average birth weight was 3389 g so Willow is merely a bit above average in mass. http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/02/18/us-birth-weight-idUSTRE61H6D520100218 Jim -- James R. Frysinger 632 Stoney Point Mountain Road Doyle TN 38559-3030 (C) 931.212.0267 (H) 931.657.3107 (F) 931.657.3108 On 2014-08-05 10:41, cont...@metricpioneer.com wrote: Willow Eve, my first grandchild was born last night (sharing birthday with our President Barack Obama). I visited my daughter Emunah this monring at hospital who gave me the weight in ounces. I asked her how many ounces in a pound. Her reply, twelve? She was not sure. Rather than convert pounds and ounces to grams, I asked at reception. Hospital staff quickly found 3670 g on computer. (Willow is a wee bit on the heavy side; maybe it is all that hair.) I had to explain to my co-workers that Willow weighs a bit less than a couple of 2 liter bottles of pop. David Pearl www.MetricPioneer.com http://www.MetricPioneer.com 503-428-4917
[USMA:54270] LC 44
Anna Staver. Thank you for talking with me this morning and for considering this important Oregon story. I hope you were able to reach Representative Denyc Boles by phone for comment concerning the meeting she and I had earlier this morning. Attached is the legislation (LC 44) that you and I discussed moments ago at the Statesman Journal News window. Below you will find some back-and-forth email messages that may be useful to you as a reporter. I think the Statesman Journal would benefit from running this story because it could potentially generate much discussion. The United States Metric Association www.metric.org is a good resource for background on the American effort to complete our national metrication. - Message from cont...@metricpioneer.com - Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 10:21:00 -0700 From: cont...@metricpioneer.com Reply-To: cont...@metricpioneer.com Subject: [USMA:54239] Re: LC 44 Meeting; Room H384; 10 am 5 Aug 2014; Oregon State Capitol Building To: U.S. Metric Association usma@colostate.edu Edward, Yes. I am glad I met a pro-SI science teacher during parent-teacher conferences several months ago. Mr Whatley is a great asset in our effort. I also plan to bring along a print-out of a recent NBC News article about Accidental Overdose: Parents are terrible at measuring kids' meds. I imagine it might be difficult to come up with a persuasive argument because many Americans are so stubbornly opposed to getting rid of familiar measures, but perhaps this article might help too. I appreciate your kind words and positive feedback. - Message from Edward Schlesinger edws...@gmail.com - Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 08:41:26 -0700 From: Edward Schlesinger edws...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [USMA:54230] LC 44 Meeting; Room H384; 10 am 5 Aug 2014; Oregon State Capitol Building To: David Pearl cont...@metricpioneer.com David,Glad to know you will have someone representing the education sector with you. Be well, On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 1:40 PM, cont...@metricpioneer.com wrote: Well. Some of you asked me to keep you updated on LC 44, which is proposed Oregon legislation based on Hawaii HB 36. Science Teacher Greg Whatley (very pro-SI) plans to join me when I meet with Representative Denyc Boles (Republican) District 19 (Salem Oregon) next week. See my earlier email where I attached a pdf (Portable Document Format) of a Draft version of LC 44. We will talk about the next steps in moving this legislation forward. Read the back-and-forth messages below if you want more detail. As always, I welcome any feedback you may have to offer. - Message from cont...@metricpioneer.com - Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 13:23:24 -0700 From: cont...@metricpioneer.com Subject: Re: LC 44 Meeting; Room H384; 10 am 5 Aug 2014; Oregon State Capitol Building To: Greg Whatley ggwhat...@gmail.com Great! Feel free to bring along any other humanoids who support this effort. See you in seven days. - Message from Greg Whatley ggwhat...@gmail.com - Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 13:09:44 -0700 From: Greg Whatley ggwhat...@gmail.com Subject: Re: LC 44 Meeting; Room H384; 10 am 5 Aug 2014; Oregon State Capitol Building To: David Pearl cont...@metricpioneer.com David...I'll be there and thank you for your work. On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 11:55 AM, cont...@metricpioneer.com wrote: Mr Whatley. I hope you can attend this meeting. Please let me know. - Message from Rep Boles rep.denycbo...@state.or.us - Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 18:49:25 + From: Rep Boles rep.denycbo...@state.or.us Subject: RE: LC 44 To: cont...@metricpioneer.com cont...@metricpioneer.com David, Sound good. Our room number is H384. Rep. Boles is looking forward to meeting with you. Maggie Boles Legislative Assistant House District 19 FROM: cont...@metricpioneer.com [mailto:cont...@metricpioneer.com] SENT: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 11:42 AM TO: Rep Boles CC: Greg Whatley SUBJECT: Re: LC 44 Tuesday 5 Aug 2014 at ten in the morning sounds great! Please tell me the room number where we meet. Thanks a million. I am really looking forward to our meeting. - Message from Rep Boles rep.denycbo...@state.or.us - Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 18:25:10 + From: Rep Boles rep.denycbo...@state.or.us Subject: RE: LC 44 To: cont...@metricpioneer.com cont...@metricpioneer.com David, How is Tuesday morning at 10am? Greg Whatley is welcome to come along. Office number: 503-986-1419 Maggie Boles Legislative Assistant House District 19 FROM: cont...@metricpioneer.com [mailto:cont...@metricpioneer.com] SENT: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 11:02 AM TO:
[USMA:54271] FW: RE: Site Down
The USMA website is back up again, as of early this morning. Don From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf Of Hillger,Donald Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 11:46 To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:54260] RE: Site Down Thanks for letting us know, David. This is a problem with the host computer and will be resolved in time. No estimate has been given by those in charge. Don USMA Webmaster and list owner From: owner-u...@colostate.edumailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf Of cont...@metricpioneer.commailto:cont...@metricpioneer.com Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 19:21 To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:54256] Site Down I just noticed that metric.org is down right now. I hope it comes back up soon. David Pearl www.MetricPioneer.comhttp://www.MetricPioneer.com 503-428-4917
[USMA:54272] FW: The cost of inaction
I received the following from the White House. I wonder if one of us can contact John Holdren in his quality of science advisor to convince him to talk to the president about SI. This is his info: CONTACT INFORMATION: John Holdren Assistant to the President for Science and Technology Director, Office of Science and Technology Policy, Executive Office of the President New Executive Office Building 725 - 17th Street NW Washington, DC 20502 Fax: (202) 456-6021 Email: jhold...@ostp.eop.gov mailto:jhold...@ostp.eop.gov John Altounji One size does not fit all. Social promotion ruined Education. From: John Podesta, The White House [mailto:i...@mail.whitehouse.gov] Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 11:13 AM To: phy...@msn.com Subject: The cost of inaction http://www.whitehouse.gov/files/email/staff/email4_left.jpg http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/email-files/wh-seal-email-friendly.jpg Hey, everyone -- The facts are in. The science is definitive. The question is no longer whether climate change is happening, but whether we can afford not to act. In the western United States, changes in our climate are fueling wildfire seasons that are longer and more intense -- putting people, communities, and businesses at risk. As we’re seeing right now, wildfires unquestionably have devastating impacts on the lives of many Americans. This weekend, California declared a state of emergency as two major wildfires scorched acres of land, threatening towns and forcing many to evacuate. These are just two of the 14 fires that are currently burning throughout the state. Make no mistake: The cost of inaction on wildfires and climate change is too high a price for Americans to pay, particularly when we have a chance to address this right now. http://click.mail.whitehouse.gov/?qs=1328a6ae4d0c4b2135dc6180879a48449e653707ba8a24cb4144d8f01fac06bc7bf8079e43b09275 Watch as President Obama's Science Advisor Dr. John Holdren breaks down exactly why this is a problem that we must meet head-on -- and pass it along to someone who needs to see it. http://click.mail.whitehouse.gov/?qs=1328a6ae4d0c4b21bd6b6180bc38c55a558f731e826b7ba48647d9aaedb836a66d76b3afd60f179b As a new report from the Council of Economic Advisors points out, the consequences of climate change reach beyond our environment. The impacts of climate change threaten our homes, our health, and our economic prosperity. In fact, delaying action for a decade would increase the cost of responding to climate change by 40 percent. President Obama has been taking action on all fronts to reduce the harmful greenhouse gas emissions that are warming our planet, to make our communities more resilient to climate impacts, and to take the lead on the international stage. In June, he announced a competition to help Americans build a stronger capacity to protect their homes and neighborhoods from natural disasters. If the question is, Do we protect the lives, the economy, and the future of the American people?, the answer should always be a resounding yes. Check out the President's action plan to learn more about what we can do to take the lead on addressing global climate change: http://click.mail.whitehouse.gov/?qs=1328a6ae4d0c4b218091e28a0ce51070620b7af7b073b789eaf6662a0f8e9f6344a9d41a7fc26503 http://www.whitehouse.gov/climate-change Thanks, John John Podesta Counselor to the President The White House http://click.mail.whitehouse.gov/?qs=1328a6ae4d0c4b21655276f2aa20de928e321a0bd78ff36472327a3f1ccd0fe9dcdb5d043ee5dfd6 @Podesta44 http://click.mail.whitehouse.gov/?qs=1328a6ae4d0c4b21c617c1d2ba884968cf93368e37a59ac1197163991a8f2d91c8f19bfc4432ed3d This email was sent to mailto:phy...@msn.com phy...@msn.com. http://click.mail.whitehouse.gov/?qs=1328a6ae4d0c4b219930ef3be633d4ebfe50e2a554c4da5df332f194a62f298ec43e7fd7452fcc52 Unsubscribe | http://click.mail.whitehouse.gov/?qs=1328a6ae4d0c4b214a06ee18226203f5575221bc003a59121487c179c0746540814a28cd0b5a6ad6 Privacy Policy Please do not reply to this email. http://click.mail.whitehouse.gov/?qs=1328a6ae4d0c4b21ef522f97169d4cdd1274ca4da7a426d81f7022803e826bf79d3faaad2367b1dc Contact the White House The White House • 1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW • Washington, DC 20500 • 202-456- http://www.whitehouse.gov/files/email/staff/email4_right.jpg http://click.mail.whitehouse.gov/open.aspx?ffcb10-ff2d15707c6c-fe9511747166037c76-fe8d1272776d077b73-ff991575-fe8d1075766500747d-ff3212707660
[USMA:54273] 500 grams of ground beef
I went to Earth Fare yesterday (the same place I got the livers back in March) and noticed that they had grass-fed ground beef from Australia for less than the local ground beef, which didn't make sense. So I asked for 500 g of ground beef, and as before, they tried to convert it to ounces for a scale that weighs in pounds. I quipped It's from Australia, it has to be metric! But this time she admitted that often (I think it was a few times a week) someone, often a European, comes in and asks for so many grams of something, and they should be better prepared. She's going to ask the manager to get a metric scale. I asked her to also get a metric scale for the produce section. (The scale in the bulk herb section already has a metric scale.) It's 555 g including the bag. Pierre -- When a barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates. Já não percebe nada, já não percebe nada.
