Re: [Vala] install vala + valide to ubuntu 10.10

2011-06-18 Thread Victor D.
thank you very much, that's what i'll do :(
when i get some time for it

2011/6/19 Gavrilov Maksim 

> 09.06.2011 16:57, Victor D. пишет:
> > thanks alot max
> > first, let's see if we can make it work, then maybe we can come with the
> > patch/suggestion too for launchpad
> > there's no hurry at all
>
> OK, I'm finally home from my vacation.
>
> I've wrote an ebuild for Valide, compiled it and... nothing :(
> I mean, I works as it's supposed to, but my ~/.valide is empty.
>
> No config.ini, ever I type, save, compile or run programs.
>
> I suggest you compile Valide from source and create a package with
> checkinstall.
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Re: [Vala] lexical analysis using libvala

2011-06-18 Thread Victor D.
Antlr is an important project. It features grammar files for most languages.
Having one for vala is a great asset for vala, I would say. Also, some
effort is needed even for using vala's own parser.

Probably, one of the reasons I say this is that even know, I'm not able to
install a proper ide for vala on my Ubuntu box. The compiler works fine but
neither valide nor the gedit plugin would install correctly. So I still hope
that more tools will emerge for this great new language. Having an ANTLR
grammar for it would be a boost.
Personally, I'm a full-time eclipse user and fan.

Hope I didn't say too many useless things, if so, feel free to ignore ;)"

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On Jun 18, 2011 10:27 PM, "Maga Abdurakhmanov"  wrote:
> Victor, it was the first way i tried out. I've almost implemented lexer
and
> parser for Vala using antlr rules. And there is a basic plugin for
netbeans
> using that lexer.
>
> But there still to much things to fix and do and i'm very limited in my
> time.
> libvala has already implemented lexer and parser and evolve with the vala
> itself. And in the future all new constructions of language will be easier
> to support.
>
> On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Victor D. wrote:
>
>> sorry to interfere, i might be naive, but i have a different view here
>> i would advise for an independent from-scratch parser, optimized for a
dev
>> tool, for writing code, which is a bit different than for the compiler.
the
>> parser has to be permissive, it has to figure out the best it can
>> incomplete
>> and illegal structures, so that the code completion/highlight doesn't
brake
>> all the time while you write.
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 8:51 PM, Maga Abdurakhmanov > >wrote:
>>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Comments are inside ast nodes, look better.
>> > >
>> >
>> > There are only some of the comments inside ast nodes (valadoc and first
>> > comment in file). To highlight syntax i need to get all of them as
>> tokens.
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Sincerely,
>> > Magomed
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Re: [Vala] lexical analysis using libvala

2011-06-18 Thread Victor D.
sorry to interfere, i might be naive, but i have a different view here
i would advise for an independent from-scratch parser, optimized for a dev
tool, for writing code, which is a bit different than for the compiler. the
parser has to be permissive, it has to figure out the best it can incomplete
and illegal structures, so that the code completion/highlight doesn't brake
all the time while you write.

On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 8:51 PM, Maga Abdurakhmanov wrote:

> >
> >
> > Comments are inside ast nodes, look better.
> >
>
> There are only some of the comments inside ast nodes (valadoc and first
> comment in file). To highlight syntax i need to get all of them as tokens.
>
>
> --
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> Magomed
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Re: [Vala] install vala + valide to ubuntu 10.10

2011-06-09 Thread Victor D.
thanks alot max
first, let's see if we can make it work, then maybe we can come with the
patch/suggestion too for launchpad
there's no hurry at all

2011/6/9 Гаврилов Максим 

> I'm now not at home, but when I get there, I'll install Val(a)ide and
> attach my config.ini. We'll see, if it works :)
> Until that happens you might open a bug on Launchpad.
> 09.06.2011 16:19 пользователь "Victor D." 
> написал:
>
> > i created the directory /home/victor/.valide/plugins
> > i also created an empty /home/victor/.valide/config.ini
> > i have the same output, complaining about config.ini at startup
> >
> > Can't read config.ini file: Key file does not have group 'Search'
> > Can't read config.ini file: Key file does not have group 'Search'
> > Can't read config.ini file: Key file does not have key 'lock-items'
> > Can't read config.ini file: Key file does not have key 'lock-items'
> >
> > and when i type in the editor
> >
> > PluginCompletion-ERROR **: parser.vala:56: failed to add GLib 2.0
> > aborting...
> > Aborted
> >
> > other than that, if i just open the project and choose build from menu,
> > without opening any file in the editor, it builds fine. i tested with a
> > cmd-line hello world and the build program resulted executes fine.
> >
> >
> > 2011/6/9 Гаврилов Максим 
> >
> >> I think, you are right: Val(a)ide fails on opening it's config file, so
> >> let's create it :-)
> >>
> >> $ mkdir -p /home/victor/.valide/plugins
> >>
> >> Please, try to compile something, e. g. GTK sample program from docs.
> Just
> >> to make sure that all dependencies are correctly installed and
> discovered by
> >> valac.
> >> 09.06.2011 13:32 пользователь "Victor D." 
> >> написал:
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> > Victor Dramba
> > Head of Programming at Cabanova
> >
> > www.cabanova.com
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>



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Re: [Vala] install vala + valide to ubuntu 10.10

2011-06-09 Thread Victor D.
i created the directory /home/victor/.valide/plugins
i also created an empty  /home/victor/.valide/config.ini
i have the same output, complaining about config.ini at startup

Can't read config.ini file: Key file does not have group 'Search'
Can't read config.ini file: Key file does not have group 'Search'
Can't read config.ini file: Key file does not have key 'lock-items'
Can't read config.ini file: Key file does not have key 'lock-items'

and when i type in the editor

PluginCompletion-ERROR **: parser.vala:56: failed to add GLib 2.0
aborting...
Aborted

other than that, if i just open the project and choose build from menu,
without opening any file in the editor, it builds fine. i tested with a
cmd-line hello world and the build program resulted executes fine.


2011/6/9 Гаврилов Максим 

> I think, you are right: Val(a)ide fails on opening it's config file, so
> let's create it :-)
>
>   $ mkdir -p /home/victor/.valide/plugins
>
> Please, try to compile something, e. g. GTK sample program from docs. Just
> to make sure that all dependencies are correctly installed and discovered by
> valac.
> 09.06.2011 13:32 пользователь "Victor D." 
> написал:
>



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Re: [Vala] install vala + valide to ubuntu 10.10

2011-06-09 Thread Victor D.
maybe this will give you some clue

victor@victor-laptop ~ $ valac --version
Vala 0.12.0

2011/6/9 Victor D. 

> i folowed 
> this<https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Vala#Libraries%20and%20Bindings>tutorial
>  and i have the same problem.
>
> first, i tried to install only glib and gtk+. apt-get told me:
>
> libgtk2.0-dev is already the newest version.
> libglib2.0-dev is already the newest version.
>
> then i tried to install all packages suggested by the tutorial, just to
> make sure:
>
> sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-dev libgtk2.0-dev libpoppler-glib-dev
> libdbus-glib-1-dev libgstreamer0.10-dev libglade2-dev libsqlite3-dev
> libgnome-desktop-dev libgnome-menu-dev libgnomevfs2-dev
>
> still, when running valac, when i try to type something in a .vala file, it
> quits. here is the output:
>
> victor@victor-laptop ~ $ valide
> Can't read config.ini file: Key file does not have group 'Search'
> Can't read config.ini file: Key file does not have group 'Search'
> Can't read config.ini file: Key file does not have key 'lock-items'
> Can't read config.ini file: Key file does not have key 'lock-items'
> Can't read config.ini file: Key file does not have key 'lock-items'
> Can't read config.ini file: Key file does not have key 'lock-items'
> Can't read config.ini file: Key file does not have key 'lock-items'
> Can't read config.ini file: Key file does not have key 'lock-items'
> plugin-manager.vala:105: Error opening directory
> '/home/victor/.valide/plugins': No such file or directory
> Can't read config.ini file: Key file does not have key 'lock-items'
> Can't read config.ini file: Key file does not have key 'lock-items'
> Can't read config.ini file: Key file does not have key 'lock-items'
> Can't read config.ini file: Key file does not have key 'width'
> Can't read config.ini file: Key file does not have key 'height'
> builder.vala:254: creating object of type `ValideProject'
> builder.vala:254: creating object of type `ValideNativeBuilderOptions'
>
> (valide:4044): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: g_object_set_property: property
> `path' of object class `ValideProject' is not writable
> builder.vala:254: creating object of type `ValideExecutableOptions'
> builder.vala:254: creating object of type `ValideSource'
> Can't read config.ini file: Key file does not have group 'Search'
> Can't read config.ini file: Key file does not have group 'Search'
> Can't read config.ini file: Key file does not have group 'Todo'
> Can't read config.ini file: Key file does not have group 'Todo'
>
> PluginCompletion-ERROR **: parser.vala:56: failed to add GLib 2.0
> aborting...
> Aborted
>
> at some point, i also read this in the output:
>
> (valide:4263): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: g_object_set_property: property
> `path' of object class `ValideProject' is not writable
>
> now, this seems to be the most "official" tutorial for valide on ubuntu.
> and it failed me on 2 systems, one with ubuntu 10.04, one with linux mint 10
>
> my guess it that there might be a version incompatibility somewhere in
> these packages
> or maybe the missing ~/.vala/config.ini ?
>
>
> i think this is quite bad for vala for the folowing reasons:
>
> 1. ubuntu, is (one of) the most popular distro
> 2. valide is perceived by any newcomer as the 'de facto' ide for the lang
> and it fails on a 'straight' install
> 3. not only it fails, but it fails by simply quitting, while in a non-core
> module (PluginCompletion)
>
> i guess it's not so difficult to improve the robustness of the ide to at
> least give friendly messages when something goes wrong.
>
> thank you very much again ;)
>
>
> 2011/6/8 Gavrilov Maksim 
>
>> 08.06.2011 19:38, Victor D. пишет:
>> > probably not, this is why eas asking for a complete tutorial, to save
>> your
>> > time ;)
>> > though, ideally, a ppa should add dependencies for *all* packages
>> >
>> > you can regard my system as a fresh ubuntu install. not even
>> build-essential
>> > or similar
>> >
>> > thanks again ;)
>>
>>
>> Here's the complete tutorial:
>>https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Vala
>>
>> You need this part:
>>https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Vala#Libraries and Bindings
>>
>> After installing all this dependencies Val(a)ide should at least start.
>>
>> If not, then write here again, we'll try to figure everything out :)
>>
>> P.S.: Guys, it will be cool if someone who uses Ubuntu tries to help
>> Victor, not me using Gentoo :)
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>
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>
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>
>


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Re: [Vala] install vala + valide to ubuntu 10.10

2011-06-09 Thread Victor D.
i folowed this <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Vala#Libraries and
Bindings> tutorial and i have the same problem.

first, i tried to install only glib and gtk+. apt-get told me:

libgtk2.0-dev is already the newest version.
libglib2.0-dev is already the newest version.

then i tried to install all packages suggested by the tutorial, just to make
sure:

sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-dev libgtk2.0-dev libpoppler-glib-dev
libdbus-glib-1-dev libgstreamer0.10-dev libglade2-dev libsqlite3-dev
libgnome-desktop-dev libgnome-menu-dev libgnomevfs2-dev

still, when running valac, when i try to type something in a .vala file, it
quits. here is the output:

victor@victor-laptop ~ $ valide
Can't read config.ini file: Key file does not have group 'Search'
Can't read config.ini file: Key file does not have group 'Search'
Can't read config.ini file: Key file does not have key 'lock-items'
Can't read config.ini file: Key file does not have key 'lock-items'
Can't read config.ini file: Key file does not have key 'lock-items'
Can't read config.ini file: Key file does not have key 'lock-items'
Can't read config.ini file: Key file does not have key 'lock-items'
Can't read config.ini file: Key file does not have key 'lock-items'
plugin-manager.vala:105: Error opening directory
'/home/victor/.valide/plugins': No such file or directory
Can't read config.ini file: Key file does not have key 'lock-items'
Can't read config.ini file: Key file does not have key 'lock-items'
Can't read config.ini file: Key file does not have key 'lock-items'
Can't read config.ini file: Key file does not have key 'width'
Can't read config.ini file: Key file does not have key 'height'
builder.vala:254: creating object of type `ValideProject'
builder.vala:254: creating object of type `ValideNativeBuilderOptions'

(valide:4044): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: g_object_set_property: property
`path' of object class `ValideProject' is not writable
builder.vala:254: creating object of type `ValideExecutableOptions'
builder.vala:254: creating object of type `ValideSource'
Can't read config.ini file: Key file does not have group 'Search'
Can't read config.ini file: Key file does not have group 'Search'
Can't read config.ini file: Key file does not have group 'Todo'
Can't read config.ini file: Key file does not have group 'Todo'

PluginCompletion-ERROR **: parser.vala:56: failed to add GLib 2.0
aborting...
Aborted

at some point, i also read this in the output:

(valide:4263): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: g_object_set_property: property
`path' of object class `ValideProject' is not writable

now, this seems to be the most "official" tutorial for valide on ubuntu. and
it failed me on 2 systems, one with ubuntu 10.04, one with linux mint 10

my guess it that there might be a version incompatibility somewhere in these
packages
or maybe the missing ~/.vala/config.ini ?


i think this is quite bad for vala for the folowing reasons:

1. ubuntu, is (one of) the most popular distro
2. valide is perceived by any newcomer as the 'de facto' ide for the lang
and it fails on a 'straight' install
3. not only it fails, but it fails by simply quitting, while in a non-core
module (PluginCompletion)

i guess it's not so difficult to improve the robustness of the ide to at
least give friendly messages when something goes wrong.

thank you very much again ;)

2011/6/8 Gavrilov Maksim 

> 08.06.2011 19:38, Victor D. пишет:
> > probably not, this is why eas asking for a complete tutorial, to save
> your
> > time ;)
> > though, ideally, a ppa should add dependencies for *all* packages
> >
> > you can regard my system as a fresh ubuntu install. not even
> build-essential
> > or similar
> >
> > thanks again ;)
>
>
> Here's the complete tutorial:
>https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Vala
>
> You need this part:
>https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Vala#Libraries and Bindings
>
> After installing all this dependencies Val(a)ide should at least start.
>
> If not, then write here again, we'll try to figure everything out :)
>
> P.S.: Guys, it will be cool if someone who uses Ubuntu tries to help
> Victor, not me using Gentoo :)
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Re: [Vala] install vala + valide to ubuntu 10.10

2011-06-08 Thread Victor D.
probably not, this is why eas asking for a complete tutorial, to save your
time ;)
though, ideally, a ppa should add dependencies for *all* packages

you can regard my system as a fresh ubuntu install. not even build-essential
or similar

thanks again ;)

2011/6/8 Гаврилов Максим 

> Do you have nessesary *-dev packages installed?
> 08.06.2011 18:46 пользователь "Victor D." 
> написал:
>
> > one of them is
> > PluginCompletion-ERROR **: parser.vala:56: failed to add GLib 2.0
> >
> > another
> > Error opening directory '/home/victor/.valide/plugins': No such file or
> > directory
> >
> >
> >
> > 2011/6/8 Гаврилов Максим 
> >
> >> Try running Valaide from terminal to watch errors it writes into it.
> >> 08.06.2011 17:44 пользователь "Victor D." 
> >> написал:
> >>
> >> > hi gavrilov, edwin,
> >> >
> >> > i just tried to install again using ppa:vala-team
> >> > the installation seems successful but i can't use valac
> >> > here's what i did. after installation, i opened valac and created a
> new
> >> > project of type GTK+
> >> > after typing a few chars, the program just quit with no message
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > monodevelop is out of question for me, i just quit using m$ related
> stuff
> >> > for about 2 years now, and it seems quite enjoyable.
> >> >
> >> > thank you for the quick answer ;)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Edwin DLCA 
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Greetings.
> >> >> I am new to vala.
> >> >> I currently use MonoDevelop works relatively well.
> >> >> But honestly, until you have an IDE that works is better to use the
> >> >> command line.
> >> >>
> >> >> 2011/6/8 Victor D. 
> >> >>
> >> >>> hi all,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> i tried to install vala+valide on my system but failed several times
> >> with
> >> >>> different reasons
> >> >>> right now, i am using linux mint 10 (based on ubuntu 10.10)
> >> >>> can you help or point me to a good, idiot-proof how to?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> of course, it's much more convenient not to compile things, if
> possible
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> Best regards,
> >> >>> Victor Dramba
> >> >>> www.victordramba.com
> >> >>>
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> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Best regards,
> >> > Victor Dramba
> >> > Head of Programming at Cabanova
> >> >
> >> > www.cabanova.com
> >> > www.victordramba.com
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> > Victor Dramba
> > Head of Programming at Cabanova
> >
> > www.cabanova.com
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>



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Re: [Vala] install vala + valide to ubuntu 10.10

2011-06-08 Thread Victor D.
one of them is
PluginCompletion-ERROR **: parser.vala:56: failed to add GLib 2.0

another
Error opening directory '/home/victor/.valide/plugins': No such file or
directory



2011/6/8 Гаврилов Максим 

> Try running Valaide from terminal to watch errors it writes into it.
> 08.06.2011 17:44 пользователь "Victor D." 
> написал:
>
> > hi gavrilov, edwin,
> >
> > i just tried to install again using ppa:vala-team
> > the installation seems successful but i can't use valac
> > here's what i did. after installation, i opened valac and created a new
> > project of type GTK+
> > after typing a few chars, the program just quit with no message
> >
> >
> > monodevelop is out of question for me, i just quit using m$ related stuff
> > for about 2 years now, and it seems quite enjoyable.
> >
> > thank you for the quick answer ;)
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Edwin DLCA  wrote:
> >
> >> Greetings.
> >> I am new to vala.
> >> I currently use MonoDevelop works relatively well.
> >> But honestly, until you have an IDE that works is better to use the
> >> command line.
> >>
> >> 2011/6/8 Victor D. 
> >>
> >>> hi all,
> >>>
> >>> i tried to install vala+valide on my system but failed several times
> with
> >>> different reasons
> >>> right now, i am using linux mint 10 (based on ubuntu 10.10)
> >>> can you help or point me to a good, idiot-proof how to?
> >>>
> >>> of course, it's much more convenient not to compile things, if possible
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> Victor Dramba
> >>> www.victordramba.com
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
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> > Victor Dramba
> > Head of Programming at Cabanova
> >
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> > www.victordramba.com
>



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Re: [Vala] install vala + valide to ubuntu 10.10

2011-06-08 Thread Victor D.
hi gavrilov, edwin,

i just tried to install again using ppa:vala-team
the installation seems successful but i can't use valac
here's what i did. after installation, i opened valac and created a new
project of type GTK+
after typing a few chars, the program just quit with no message


monodevelop is out of question for me, i just quit using m$ related stuff
for about 2 years now, and it seems quite enjoyable.

thank you for the quick answer ;)


On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Edwin DLCA  wrote:

> Greetings.
> I am new to vala.
> I currently use MonoDevelop works relatively well.
> But honestly, until you have an IDE that works is better to use the
> command line.
>
> 2011/6/8 Victor D. 
>
>> hi all,
>>
>> i tried to install vala+valide on my system but failed several times with
>> different reasons
>> right now, i am using linux mint 10 (based on ubuntu 10.10)
>> can you help or point me to a good, idiot-proof how to?
>>
>> of course, it's much more convenient not to compile things, if possible
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Victor Dramba
>> www.victordramba.com
>>
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[Vala] install vala + valide to ubuntu 10.10

2011-06-08 Thread Victor D.
hi all,

i tried to install vala+valide on my system but failed several times with
different reasons
right now, i am using linux mint 10 (based on ubuntu 10.10)
can you help or point me to a good, idiot-proof how to?

of course, it's much more convenient not to compile things, if possible

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Victor Dramba
www.victordramba.com
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