Re: [Vala] Vala logo

[Steven Oliver]

On 01/07/2012 09:10 AM, Antono Vasiljev wrote:

On Thu, 2012-01-05 at 14:57 +0100, Tobias Bernard wrote:


That's my hope too. If Jürg doesn't have the time to be involved in the
voting process, he could let some kind of community manager organize the
voting and make a decision on which he then has a veto. So if he likes the
community's decision, the time he needs to put into this is close to zero
and if he doesn't, he'd just need to tell me what he'd like to change and I
could make the necessary changes to it.
If nobody else wants to do it, I'd also organize it myself.

What do you think?

I've created a page for logo contest at wiki.
https://live.gnome.org/Vala/Logo

Other artist should be informed about contest :)
Ideas?


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I really really like the Vala remix by Jim Peters.
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Re: [Vala] Vala logo

[Antono Vasiljev]

On Sat, 2012-01-07 at 19:52 +0100, Luca Bruno wrote:

> Cool.
> I've posted request here:
> https://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/ArtRequests
> and to Google+ group:
> https://plus.google.com/115393489934129239313/posts/Nn6p9L6GhfW
> 
> 
> It must not necessarily follow tango guidelines, it's not an icon for
> a gnome application.
> 
Feel free to remove this line from wiki :)

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Re: [Vala] Vala logo

[Luca Bruno]

On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Antono Vasiljev  wrote:

> Cool.
> I've posted request here: https://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/ArtRequests
> and to Google+ group:
> https://plus.google.com/115393489934129239313/posts/Nn6p9L6GhfW
>
>
It must not necessarily follow tango guidelines, it's not an icon for a
gnome application.


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Re: [Vala] Vala logo

[Antono Vasiljev]

On Sat, 2012-01-07 at 16:21 +0100, Luca Bruno wrote:


> I've created a page for logo contest at wiki.
> https://live.gnome.org/Vala/Logo
> 
> Other artist should be informed about contest :)
> Ideas?
> 
> Thanks for doing that, I've filled the page with older logo
> suggestions.

Cool.
I've posted request here: https://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/ArtRequests
and to Google+ group:
https://plus.google.com/115393489934129239313/posts/Nn6p9L6GhfW

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Re: [Vala] Vala logo

[Luca Bruno]

On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Antono Vasiljev  wrote:

> I've created a page for logo contest at wiki.
> https://live.gnome.org/Vala/Logo
>
> Other artist should be informed about contest :)
> Ideas?
>

Thanks for doing that, I've filled the page with older logo suggestions.

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Re: [Vala] Vala logo

[Antono Vasiljev]

On Thu, 2012-01-05 at 14:57 +0100, Tobias Bernard wrote:

> That's my hope too. If Jürg doesn't have the time to be involved in the
> voting process, he could let some kind of community manager organize the
> voting and make a decision on which he then has a veto. So if he likes the
> community's decision, the time he needs to put into this is close to zero
> and if he doesn't, he'd just need to tell me what he'd like to change and I
> could make the necessary changes to it.
> If nobody else wants to do it, I'd also organize it myself.
> 
> What do you think?

I've created a page for logo contest at wiki.
https://live.gnome.org/Vala/Logo

Other artist should be informed about contest :)
Ideas?


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Re: [Vala] Vala logo

[Denis Kuzmenok]

And books, at least one :)

> I like the idea :)
> Vala needs logo.


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Re: [Vala] Vala logo

[Antono Vasiljev]

On Thu, 2012-01-05 at 14:57 +0100, Tobias Bernard wrote:
> That's my hope too. If Jürg doesn't have the time to be involved in the
> voting process, he could let some kind of community manager organize the
> voting and make a decision on which he then has a veto. So if he likes the
> community's decision, the time he needs to put into this is close to zero
> and if he doesn't, he'd just need to tell me what he'd like to change and I
> could make the necessary changes to it.
> If nobody else wants to do it, I'd also organize it myself.
> 
> What do you think?

I like the idea :)
Vala needs logo.

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Re: [Vala] Vala logo

[Tobias Bernard]

That's my hope too. If Jürg doesn't have the time to be involved in the
voting process, he could let some kind of community manager organize the
voting and make a decision on which he then has a veto. So if he likes the
community's decision, the time he needs to put into this is close to zero
and if he doesn't, he'd just need to tell me what he'd like to change and I
could make the necessary changes to it.
If nobody else wants to do it, I'd also organize it myself.

What do you think?

Tobias

2012/1/5 Joseph Montanez 

> Tobias,
>
> I really hope someone can make your work official. We had so much talk
> about this already a few months ago. In the end I think Jürg would
> have the last say on the logo. Also I don't think there is a community
> manager for this project, besides Jürg. Seeing that there are over
> 500+ bugs many that need to be confirmed or are new makes me think
> something like this may be put on the back burner for a while.
>
> Maybe it would be worth while to see if its possible to have a
> community manager arise?
>
> On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Tobias Bernard 
> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > It's been a few months since I first proposed to help with a Vala logo
> and
> > branding.
> > Since on the mailing list there are mostly users and little developers of
> > the language and they aren't very active here, it's hard to know who to
> > talk to to organize something official.
> > When I contacted Jürg Billeter as the main author of the language in
> > August, he said that he's very busy but he might do something about it.
> > After that I haven't heard from him, not even after I contacted him again
> > in November.
> > So, since Jürg seems to be too busy, is there someone else who is
> > officially authorized to organize this?
> > I'd love to support the project, but I can't if I don't get clear
> > instructions...
> >
> > In case someone hasn't seen the proposals, here's the most recent
> > version
> > .
> >
> > kind regards
> > Tobias Bernard
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Re: [Vala] Vala logo

[Денис Кузьменок]

Then i stand for number 5. Text title sucks :)

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>

The text issue has already been discussed in August and I think we agreed
to vote on this after coosing a symbol.
For now, just ignore the text as it's a placeholder and focus on the logo
itself ;)

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Re: [Vala] Vala logo

[Tobias Bernard]

The text issue has already been discussed in August and I think we agreed
to vote on this after coosing a symbol.
For now, just ignore the text as it's a placeholder and focus on the logo
itself ;)

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Re: [Vala] Vala logo

[David Gomes]

Something cleaner and simpler for the font.

On Monday, January 2, 2012, Steven Oliver wrote:

> Second that. A more readable font for "VALA" would be a plus in my opinion
> as well.
>
> On Jan 2, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Dr. Michael Lauer wrote:
>
> > I also like version 5, however I think the typography
> > should be reconsidered. While it looks cool and scifi-like,
> > I'd appreciate something more readable.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > :M:
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Re: [Vala] Vala logo

[Steven Oliver]

Second that. A more readable font for "VALA" would be a plus in my opinion as 
well.

On Jan 2, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Dr. Michael Lauer wrote:

> I also like version 5, however I think the typography
> should be reconsidered. While it looks cool and scifi-like,
> I'd appreciate something more readable.
> 
> Cheers,
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> :M:
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Re: [Vala] Vala logo

[Dr. Michael Lauer]

I also like version 5, however I think the typography
should be reconsidered. While it looks cool and scifi-like,
I'd appreciate something more readable.

Cheers,

:M:

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Re: [Vala] Vala logo

[Antono Vasiljev]

On Sun, 2012-01-01 at 02:03 +0100, Tobias Bernard wrote:

> In case someone hasn't seen the proposals, here's the most recent
> version

I like version 05 :)


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Re: [Vala] Vala logo

[Tobias Bernard]

 As someone said in an earlier thread:

To me it is about flying above all the nightmare complexity of pages
> of boilerplate code that is required at the C level.
>

The core values a Vala brand should communicate are lightness, ease,
freedom and openness. I think wings symbolize these values quite well.

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Re: [Vala] Vala logo

[Steven Oliver]

I like the wings. What's the connection to vala though?

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 31, 2011, at 8:03 PM, Tobias Bernard  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> It's been a few months since I first proposed to help with a Vala logo and
> branding.
> Since on the mailing list there are mostly users and little developers of
> the language and they aren't very active here, it's hard to know who to
> talk to to organize something official.
> When I contacted Jürg Billeter as the main author of the language in
> August, he said that he's very busy but he might do something about it.
> After that I haven't heard from him, not even after I contacted him again
> in November.
> So, since Jürg seems to be too busy, is there someone else who is
> officially authorized to organize this?
> I'd love to support the project, but I can't if I don't get clear
> instructions...
> 
> In case someone hasn't seen the proposals, here's the most recent
> version
> .
> 
> kind regards
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Re: [Vala] Vala logo symbol voting

[Tobias Bernard]

It's never too late for feedback :)

But as I already wrote here on the mailing list, this voting won't be about
the VALA text but about the symbol. This text is on the proposals as an
example, but it will be dicussed later and there will be a separate voting
on it.
For now, if you don't like it, ignore it ;)

tobias

2011/8/31 Dru Moore 

> Probably far too late in the process to come back and comment on this
> but I have a few general comments.
>
> I really like the concept of wings etc and think of the logo marks,
> all but #4 are really very strong, to me #4 is the weakest and is only
> good.
>
> However, I really dislike the font used for VALA.
>
> I totally get that by reducing the number of strokes required to form
> the letters you are trying to evoke simplicity and lightness as shared
> qualities. For me it actually suggests a different, less accurate set
> of ideas:
> Only a few basic tools - 4 unique strokes build the entire word
> Very direct and angular - fast yes, elegant no.
>
> These would seem more to be the qualities of a low level language
> (assembler or c) rather than a modern, high level language. Vala
> provides lot's of tools and high level objects to it's users that
> should let us express ourselves in a much more elegant fashion.
>
> Appreciate these comments may be coming at the least helpful time and
> regardless the outcome will clearly be to a very high standard.
>
> On 31 August 2011 18:20, Tobias Bernard  wrote:
> > I totally agree with you that war isn't a good symbolism for this, it is
> one
> > of the reasons I deleted that proposal.
> >
> > The reason why I created it in the first place was the sound of "Vala":
> it
> > reminds "of Valkyrie" or "Valhalla" (and if you've read the Silmarillion
> it
> > reminds of the "Valar"), and ancient weapons are strongly connected to
> those
> > topics, so I wanted to try working on that. But since there are better
> > symbolisms (which also look better graphically :D), I deleted that
> proposal.
> >
> > I don't know if you've taken a look at the pdf, but there are several
> > proposals which communicate exactly what you said: lightness, easiness,
> > flying etc.
> > A flying carpet isn't a bad idea but personally, I like a wing better,
> > because it's less complex and easier to understand.
> > in case you've missed it: symbol proposals pdf
> > download
> >
> > kind regards
> > tobias
> >
> > 2011/8/31 Jim Peters 
> >
> >> Sam Liddicott wrote:
> >> > >2) The symbolism of "ancient warfare" is hard to
> >> > >understand. Probably too hard to be understood instantly by most
> >> > >people, so I put that proposal away too.
> >> >
> >> > The presentation is very good.
> >> >
> >> > I think that symbols of weapons, killing and/or warfare should be
> >> > avoided, having very current and unpleasant connotations for many
> >> > people in specific locales.
> >>
> >> War happens -- deal with it.  But anyway, Vala is not about war, not
> >> even about posing with weapons, nor indulging in feelings of
> >> superiority or anything like that.  Vala is practical and gets the job
> >> done.  It is not an academic language made by purists or theorists.
> >> It doesn't seem to attract zealots or fanatics -- it is relatively
> >> humble in that sense.  It makes life easier for those who use it --
> >> compared to the alternative tools available to do the same job.
> >>
> >> Getting a good visual logo can be hard.  When I was involved in
> >> OpenEEG, someone sent us a drawing of a levitating, meditating,
> >> EEG-wired GNU, which was really perfect and said everything:
> >>
> >>  http://openeeg.sf.net/
> >>
> >> However, a programming language is more abstract.  Linux has a penguin
> >> mascot pictured with a bellyful of fish (according to Linus), which I
> >> guess represents a feeling of comfort.
> >>
> >> I wonder whether we can find a feeling connection for Vala?
> >>
> >> To me it is about flying above all the nightmare complexity of pages
> >> of boilerplate code that is required at the C level.  So maybe
> >> Aladdin's flying carpet?  Or something else to represent the ease and
> >> feeling of flying above complexity?
> >>
> >> Any other way we can represent this feeling?
> >>
> >> Or is there some other feeling we can associate with Vala?
> >>
> >> Jim
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Re: [Vala] Vala logo symbol voting

[Dru Moore]

Probably far too late in the process to come back and comment on this
but I have a few general comments.

I really like the concept of wings etc and think of the logo marks,
all but #4 are really very strong, to me #4 is the weakest and is only
good.

However, I really dislike the font used for VALA.

I totally get that by reducing the number of strokes required to form
the letters you are trying to evoke simplicity and lightness as shared
qualities. For me it actually suggests a different, less accurate set
of ideas:
Only a few basic tools - 4 unique strokes build the entire word
Very direct and angular - fast yes, elegant no.

These would seem more to be the qualities of a low level language
(assembler or c) rather than a modern, high level language. Vala
provides lot's of tools and high level objects to it's users that
should let us express ourselves in a much more elegant fashion.

Appreciate these comments may be coming at the least helpful time and
regardless the outcome will clearly be to a very high standard.

On 31 August 2011 18:20, Tobias Bernard  wrote:
> I totally agree with you that war isn't a good symbolism for this, it is one
> of the reasons I deleted that proposal.
>
> The reason why I created it in the first place was the sound of "Vala": it
> reminds "of Valkyrie" or "Valhalla" (and if you've read the Silmarillion it
> reminds of the "Valar"), and ancient weapons are strongly connected to those
> topics, so I wanted to try working on that. But since there are better
> symbolisms (which also look better graphically :D), I deleted that proposal.
>
> I don't know if you've taken a look at the pdf, but there are several
> proposals which communicate exactly what you said: lightness, easiness,
> flying etc.
> A flying carpet isn't a bad idea but personally, I like a wing better,
> because it's less complex and easier to understand.
> in case you've missed it: symbol proposals pdf
> download
>
> kind regards
> tobias
>
> 2011/8/31 Jim Peters 
>
>> Sam Liddicott wrote:
>> > >2) The symbolism of "ancient warfare" is hard to
>> > >understand. Probably too hard to be understood instantly by most
>> > >people, so I put that proposal away too.
>> >
>> > The presentation is very good.
>> >
>> > I think that symbols of weapons, killing and/or warfare should be
>> > avoided, having very current and unpleasant connotations for many
>> > people in specific locales.
>>
>> War happens -- deal with it.  But anyway, Vala is not about war, not
>> even about posing with weapons, nor indulging in feelings of
>> superiority or anything like that.  Vala is practical and gets the job
>> done.  It is not an academic language made by purists or theorists.
>> It doesn't seem to attract zealots or fanatics -- it is relatively
>> humble in that sense.  It makes life easier for those who use it --
>> compared to the alternative tools available to do the same job.
>>
>> Getting a good visual logo can be hard.  When I was involved in
>> OpenEEG, someone sent us a drawing of a levitating, meditating,
>> EEG-wired GNU, which was really perfect and said everything:
>>
>>  http://openeeg.sf.net/
>>
>> However, a programming language is more abstract.  Linux has a penguin
>> mascot pictured with a bellyful of fish (according to Linus), which I
>> guess represents a feeling of comfort.
>>
>> I wonder whether we can find a feeling connection for Vala?
>>
>> To me it is about flying above all the nightmare complexity of pages
>> of boilerplate code that is required at the C level.  So maybe
>> Aladdin's flying carpet?  Or something else to represent the ease and
>> feeling of flying above complexity?
>>
>> Any other way we can represent this feeling?
>>
>> Or is there some other feeling we can associate with Vala?
>>
>> Jim
>>
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Re: [Vala] Vala logo symbol voting

[Tobias Bernard]

I totally agree with you that war isn't a good symbolism for this, it is one
of the reasons I deleted that proposal.

The reason why I created it in the first place was the sound of "Vala": it
reminds "of Valkyrie" or "Valhalla" (and if you've read the Silmarillion it
reminds of the "Valar"), and ancient weapons are strongly connected to those
topics, so I wanted to try working on that. But since there are better
symbolisms (which also look better graphically :D), I deleted that proposal.

I don't know if you've taken a look at the pdf, but there are several
proposals which communicate exactly what you said: lightness, easiness,
flying etc.
A flying carpet isn't a bad idea but personally, I like a wing better,
because it's less complex and easier to understand.
in case you've missed it: symbol proposals pdf
download

kind regards
tobias

2011/8/31 Jim Peters 

> Sam Liddicott wrote:
> > >2) The symbolism of "ancient warfare" is hard to
> > >understand. Probably too hard to be understood instantly by most
> > >people, so I put that proposal away too.
> >
> > The presentation is very good.
> >
> > I think that symbols of weapons, killing and/or warfare should be
> > avoided, having very current and unpleasant connotations for many
> > people in specific locales.
>
> War happens -- deal with it.  But anyway, Vala is not about war, not
> even about posing with weapons, nor indulging in feelings of
> superiority or anything like that.  Vala is practical and gets the job
> done.  It is not an academic language made by purists or theorists.
> It doesn't seem to attract zealots or fanatics -- it is relatively
> humble in that sense.  It makes life easier for those who use it --
> compared to the alternative tools available to do the same job.
>
> Getting a good visual logo can be hard.  When I was involved in
> OpenEEG, someone sent us a drawing of a levitating, meditating,
> EEG-wired GNU, which was really perfect and said everything:
>
>  http://openeeg.sf.net/
>
> However, a programming language is more abstract.  Linux has a penguin
> mascot pictured with a bellyful of fish (according to Linus), which I
> guess represents a feeling of comfort.
>
> I wonder whether we can find a feeling connection for Vala?
>
> To me it is about flying above all the nightmare complexity of pages
> of boilerplate code that is required at the C level.  So maybe
> Aladdin's flying carpet?  Or something else to represent the ease and
> feeling of flying above complexity?
>
> Any other way we can represent this feeling?
>
> Or is there some other feeling we can associate with Vala?
>
> Jim
>
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Re: [Vala] Vala logo symbol voting

[Jim Peters]

Sam Liddicott wrote:
> >2) The symbolism of "ancient warfare" is hard to
> >understand. Probably too hard to be understood instantly by most
> >people, so I put that proposal away too.
> 
> The presentation is very good.
> 
> I think that symbols of weapons, killing and/or warfare should be
> avoided, having very current and unpleasant connotations for many
> people in specific locales.

War happens -- deal with it.  But anyway, Vala is not about war, not
even about posing with weapons, nor indulging in feelings of
superiority or anything like that.  Vala is practical and gets the job
done.  It is not an academic language made by purists or theorists.
It doesn't seem to attract zealots or fanatics -- it is relatively
humble in that sense.  It makes life easier for those who use it --
compared to the alternative tools available to do the same job.

Getting a good visual logo can be hard.  When I was involved in
OpenEEG, someone sent us a drawing of a levitating, meditating,
EEG-wired GNU, which was really perfect and said everything:
  
  http://openeeg.sf.net/

However, a programming language is more abstract.  Linux has a penguin
mascot pictured with a bellyful of fish (according to Linus), which I
guess represents a feeling of comfort.  

I wonder whether we can find a feeling connection for Vala?

To me it is about flying above all the nightmare complexity of pages
of boilerplate code that is required at the C level.  So maybe
Aladdin's flying carpet?  Or something else to represent the ease and
feeling of flying above complexity?

Any other way we can represent this feeling?  

Or is there some other feeling we can associate with Vala?

Jim

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Re: [Vala] Vala logo symbol voting

[Sam Liddicott]

On 27/08/11 15:29, Tobias Bernard wrote:

2) The symbolism of "ancient warfare" is hard to understand. Probably too
hard to be understood instantly by most people, so I put that proposal away
too.


The presentation is very good.

I think that symbols of weapons, killing and/or warfare should be 
avoided, having very current and unpleasant connotations for many people 
in specific locales.


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Re: [Vala] Vala logo symbol voting

[august]

Hi Tobias, All,

I hope you don't mind me making a suggestion here.  I find all of the
graphics you've made to be very professional.  I really like the wing
and definitely prefer the 2 tone graphic over glass effects.

I was only wondering if it would be possible to see the wings with
another text graphic below it.  The "vala" with the sharp edges kind
of turns me off.  Vala is more of a rounded and soft word with lots
of vowels.  It rolls off the tongue.  The graphic I see in your
logos, however, expresses a lot of consonants and pointedness.  To
me, the current text graphic contradicts the forgiving and welcoming
feel of the vala language.  To me, vala takes the snagging edges out
of programming.  It's a more human and organic language, less
machine.

Would it be possible to round off the points on the text graphic?
I'm not sure it would be better, but I think it would be interesting
to see.  For sure, it will set other things in the logo out of
balance, but it just might fit the wings better.


best -august.



Tobias Bernard say:
> Hi
> 
> Since there were no further comments on the logo drafts, I thought I'd
> propose to vote on the logo symbol.
> here 's a revised version of the logo symbol
> part of my proposal document  (alternative
> download 
> )
> 
> I don't know how you organize votings here, so I have some questions on
> that:
> What is needed to start an official voting?
> Is there a some kind of a leader who offcially announces votings?
> Who is allowed to vote and how many people need to vote to take a decision?
> 
> After thinking a bit more about it, I changed certain poposals, deleted
> others and added new ones. Of course I tried to always keep your feedback in
> mind. So here's the changes in detail:
> 
> 1) Putting the symbol inside a circle for the main logo is a bad idea. In
> some cases the symbol could be used this way, but as a variant, not as the
> main one. This is why I deleted all proposals inside a circle.
> 
> 2) The symbolism of "ancient warfare" is hard to understand. Probably too
> hard to be understood instantly by most people, so I put that proposal away
> too.
> 
> 3) The simplicity of the first proposal (horizontal wing) was liked by many,
> so I added a similar symbol with a simple vertical wing.
> 
> 4) Thanks to XY, I used your idea for proposal 04, however I am still not
> sure if
>  a) The V is readable
>  b) The wing is recognizable
> 
>I thought I'd let the community decide this by voting ;)
> 
> I'm looking forward to hear from you, so the votings can begin.
> Of course,  any kind of feedback is welcome and any changes can be made to
> the current proposals.
> 
> kind regards
> tobias

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Re: [Vala] Vala logo symbol voting

[Tobias Bernard]

ok, i'll try that.
after choosing a symbol, there should be a voting on the logo text too,
so thanks a lot for the proposal.
for now: ignore all the text and focus on the symbols ;)

tobias

2011/8/27 august 

>
> Hi Tobias, All,
>
>I hope you don't mind me making a suggestion here.  I find all of
> the
>graphics you've made to be very professional.  I really like the
> wing
>and definitely prefer the 2 tone graphic over glass effects.
>
>I was only wondering if it would be possible to see the wings with
>another text graphic below it.  The "vala" with the sharp edges kind
>of turns me off.  Vala is more of a rounded and soft word with lots
>of vowels.  It rolls off the tongue.  The graphic I see in your
>logos, however, expresses a lot of consonants and pointedness.  To
>me, the current text graphic contradicts the forgiving and welcoming
>feel of the vala language.  To me, vala takes the snagging edges out
>of programming.  It's a more human and organic language, less
>machine.
>
>Would it be possible to round off the points on the text graphic?
>I'm not sure it would be better, but I think it would be interesting
>to see.  For sure, it will set other things in the logo out of
>balance, but it just might fit the wings better.
>
>
>best -august.
>
>
>
> Tobias Bernard say:
> > Hi
> >
> > Since there were no further comments on the logo drafts, I thought I'd
> > propose to vote on the logo symbol.
> > here 's a revised version of the logo
> symbol
> > part of my proposal document  (alternative
> > download <
> http://tobias.bluestain.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/vala01.pdf>
> > )
> >
> > I don't know how you organize votings here, so I have some questions on
> > that:
> > What is needed to start an official voting?
> > Is there a some kind of a leader who offcially announces votings?
> > Who is allowed to vote and how many people need to vote to take a
> decision?
> >
> > After thinking a bit more about it, I changed certain poposals, deleted
> > others and added new ones. Of course I tried to always keep your feedback
> in
> > mind. So here's the changes in detail:
> >
> > 1) Putting the symbol inside a circle for the main logo is a bad idea. In
> > some cases the symbol could be used this way, but as a variant, not as
> the
> > main one. This is why I deleted all proposals inside a circle.
> >
> > 2) The symbolism of "ancient warfare" is hard to understand. Probably too
> > hard to be understood instantly by most people, so I put that proposal
> away
> > too.
> >
> > 3) The simplicity of the first proposal (horizontal wing) was liked by
> many,
> > so I added a similar symbol with a simple vertical wing.
> >
> > 4) Thanks to XY, I used your idea for proposal 04, however I am still not
> > sure if
> >  a) The V is readable
> >  b) The wing is recognizable
> >
> >I thought I'd let the community decide this by voting ;)
> >
> > I'm looking forward to hear from you, so the votings can begin.
> > Of course,  any kind of feedback is welcome and any changes can be made
> to
> > the current proposals.
> >
> > kind regards
> > tobias
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Re: [Vala] Vala logo symbol voting

[Tobias Bernard]

I forgot to change the place holder XY to rastersoft, because I wrote the
text when I had no internet connection and didn't see it now before  sending
it .
The credidts for idea #4 go to him ;)
Sorry.

tobias


2011/8/27 Tobias Bernard 

> Hi
>
> Since there were no further comments on the logo drafts, I thought I'd
> propose to vote on the logo symbol.
> here 's a revised version of the logo symbol
> part of my proposal document  (alternative
> download
> )
>
> I don't know how you organize votings here, so I have some questions on
> that:
> What is needed to start an official voting?
> Is there a some kind of a leader who offcially announces votings?
> Who is allowed to vote and how many people need to vote to take a decision?
>
> After thinking a bit more about it, I changed certain poposals, deleted
> others and added new ones. Of course I tried to always keep your feedback in
> mind. So here's the changes in detail:
>
> 1) Putting the symbol inside a circle for the main logo is a bad idea. In
> some cases the symbol could be used this way, but as a variant, not as the
> main one. This is why I deleted all proposals inside a circle.
>
> 2) The symbolism of "ancient warfare" is hard to understand. Probably too
> hard to be understood instantly by most people, so I put that proposal away
> too.
>
> 3) The simplicity of the first proposal (horizontal wing) was liked by
> many, so I added a similar symbol with a simple vertical wing.
>
> 4) Thanks to XY, I used your idea for proposal 04, however I am still not
> sure if
>  a) The V is readable
>  b) The wing is recognizable
>
>I thought I'd let the community decide this by voting ;)
>
> I'm looking forward to hear from you, so the votings can begin.
> Of course,  any kind of feedback is welcome and any changes can be made to
> the current proposals.
>
> kind regards
> tobias
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Re: [Vala] Vala logo proposals

[Tobias Bernard]

Are you sure? I tried it on 3 different PCs an it worked...
anyway, here's an alternative download
link

tobias

2011/8/17 Kris Thomsen 

> I get an error when I try to open the Ubuntu One-page :-) Would really love
> to see the proposal.
>
> // Kris
>
> 2011/8/17 Tobias Bernard 
>
>> hi
>>
>> Thank you all for your feedback!
>>
>> @ Luca:
>> I wouldn't use the tango palette, first of all because I personally don't
>> like it really much ;) and second becuase it doesn't fit really well with
>> the values the whole brand identity aims to communicate (freedom,
>> lightness,
>> simplicity etc). I don't see why blue should be old school in general, and
>> as explained in the pdf, I think it fits really well with the ideas behind
>> Vala.
>> However, if it is decided to go for tango colors, in some way that could
>> work as well, I guess :)
>>
>> @ Rastersoft
>> Looks interesting, I'll try something like that. The problem is probably
>> to
>> keep the V readable. We'll see..
>>
>> @ Rob
>> Of course, once a logo has been chosen, there will be many different
>> versions for different sizes and purposes, among those very likely also a
>> horizontal one, but it's way too early to think about such details. I
>> placed
>> the symbols above the text for all proposals because it worked well with
>> the
>> sheet format, but this does in no way mean the final logo is going to
>> behave
>> this way.
>>
>> @ Joseph
>> That (or a similar) slogan could be used also as a logo subtitle. like it
>> :)
>>
>> As explained in the pdf I think a subtitle for the logo would be nice. So
>> if
>> anyone has an idea how the essence of Vala could be expressed in short
>> words, please make suggestions! (example: "Ruby - a programmer's best
>> friend")
>>
>> Here's what we currently have:
>> - Vala - a simple yet powerful programming language
>> - Vala - gives you vings (or maybe "spread your wings", so it'd be less
>> similar to the redbull slogan^^)
>>
>> I recommend everyone to also read the initial part of the document, so you
>> can understand better where the logos come from and why I did things the
>> way
>> I did.
>> Of course, suggestions of any kind are highly appreaciated ;)
>>
>> kind regards
>> tobias
>>
>>
>> 2011/8/15 Tobias Bernard 
>>
>> > Hi
>> >
>> > Some time ago I checked out the Vala Wikipedia page after reading about
>> it
>> > on elementaryos.org and discovered that there was no logo. After
>> googling
>> > it, I got to the mailing list, where I read that you are currently
>> seeking
>> > a logo 
>> and
>>
>> > I thought I might be able to help.
>> >
>> > So I made a rough draft for a Vala brand identity which can be
>> downloaded
>> > here .
>>
>> > I'd love to hear feedback, criticism or anything else ;)
>> >
>> > kind regards
>> > tobias bernard
>> >
>> > ps. If you want to check my design skills, take a look at my website<
>> http://tobias.bluestain.net/>.
>>
>> > I'm using Inkscape/GIMP on Ubuntu 11.04.
>> >
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Re: [Vala] Vala logo proposals

[Kris Thomsen]

I get an error when I try to open the Ubuntu One-page :-) Would really love
to see the proposal.

// Kris

2011/8/17 Tobias Bernard 

> hi
>
> Thank you all for your feedback!
>
> @ Luca:
> I wouldn't use the tango palette, first of all because I personally don't
> like it really much ;) and second becuase it doesn't fit really well with
> the values the whole brand identity aims to communicate (freedom,
> lightness,
> simplicity etc). I don't see why blue should be old school in general, and
> as explained in the pdf, I think it fits really well with the ideas behind
> Vala.
> However, if it is decided to go for tango colors, in some way that could
> work as well, I guess :)
>
> @ Rastersoft
> Looks interesting, I'll try something like that. The problem is probably to
> keep the V readable. We'll see..
>
> @ Rob
> Of course, once a logo has been chosen, there will be many different
> versions for different sizes and purposes, among those very likely also a
> horizontal one, but it's way too early to think about such details. I
> placed
> the symbols above the text for all proposals because it worked well with
> the
> sheet format, but this does in no way mean the final logo is going to
> behave
> this way.
>
> @ Joseph
> That (or a similar) slogan could be used also as a logo subtitle. like it
> :)
>
> As explained in the pdf I think a subtitle for the logo would be nice. So
> if
> anyone has an idea how the essence of Vala could be expressed in short
> words, please make suggestions! (example: "Ruby - a programmer's best
> friend")
>
> Here's what we currently have:
> - Vala - a simple yet powerful programming language
> - Vala - gives you vings (or maybe "spread your wings", so it'd be less
> similar to the redbull slogan^^)
>
> I recommend everyone to also read the initial part of the document, so you
> can understand better where the logos come from and why I did things the
> way
> I did.
> Of course, suggestions of any kind are highly appreaciated ;)
>
> kind regards
> tobias
>
>
> 2011/8/15 Tobias Bernard 
>
> > Hi
> >
> > Some time ago I checked out the Vala Wikipedia page after reading about
> it
> > on elementaryos.org and discovered that there was no logo. After
> googling
> > it, I got to the mailing list, where I read that you are currently
> seeking
> > a logo 
> and
> > I thought I might be able to help.
> >
> > So I made a rough draft for a Vala brand identity which can be downloaded
> > here .
> > I'd love to hear feedback, criticism or anything else ;)
> >
> > kind regards
> > tobias bernard
> >
> > ps. If you want to check my design skills, take a look at my website<
> http://tobias.bluestain.net/>.
> > I'm using Inkscape/GIMP on Ubuntu 11.04.
> >
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Re: [Vala] Vala logo proposals

[Tobias Bernard]

hi

Thank you all for your feedback!

@ Luca:
I wouldn't use the tango palette, first of all because I personally don't
like it really much ;) and second becuase it doesn't fit really well with
the values the whole brand identity aims to communicate (freedom, lightness,
simplicity etc). I don't see why blue should be old school in general, and
as explained in the pdf, I think it fits really well with the ideas behind
Vala.
However, if it is decided to go for tango colors, in some way that could
work as well, I guess :)

@ Rastersoft
Looks interesting, I'll try something like that. The problem is probably to
keep the V readable. We'll see..

@ Rob
Of course, once a logo has been chosen, there will be many different
versions for different sizes and purposes, among those very likely also a
horizontal one, but it's way too early to think about such details. I placed
the symbols above the text for all proposals because it worked well with the
sheet format, but this does in no way mean the final logo is going to behave
this way.

@ Joseph
That (or a similar) slogan could be used also as a logo subtitle. like it :)

As explained in the pdf I think a subtitle for the logo would be nice. So if
anyone has an idea how the essence of Vala could be expressed in short
words, please make suggestions! (example: "Ruby - a programmer's best
friend")

Here's what we currently have:
- Vala - a simple yet powerful programming language
- Vala - gives you vings (or maybe "spread your wings", so it'd be less
similar to the redbull slogan^^)

I recommend everyone to also read the initial part of the document, so you
can understand better where the logos come from and why I did things the way
I did.
Of course, suggestions of any kind are highly appreaciated ;)

kind regards
tobias


2011/8/15 Tobias Bernard 

> Hi
>
> Some time ago I checked out the Vala Wikipedia page after reading about it
> on elementaryos.org and discovered that there was no logo. After googling
> it, I got to the mailing list, where I read that you are currently seeking
> a logo  and
> I thought I might be able to help.
>
> So I made a rough draft for a Vala brand identity which can be downloaded
> here .
> I'd love to hear feedback, criticism or anything else ;)
>
> kind regards
> tobias bernard
>
> ps. If you want to check my design skills, take a look at my 
> website.
> I'm using Inkscape/GIMP on Ubuntu 11.04.
>
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Re: [Vala] Vala logo proposals

[Andres G. Aragoneses]

+1 for Vings#4, it's a great icon and it has the good aspect of actually 
forming a very clear "V" with the wings.


On 08/16/2011 07:37 PM, Joseph Montanez wrote:

This reminds me of Electronic Arts Logo, except the A on their logo is
a bit more detailed and inside the circle. Vala is so simple in
lettering its really hard to sell a detailed logo since it detours the
eye. Its very clean that's for certain. So my favorite is "Vings" #4.
It would be a fun twist to say Vala gives you vings! Which closely
follows Redbull gives you wings!

On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Tobias Bernard  wrote:

Hi

Some time ago I checked out the Vala Wikipedia page after reading about it
on elementaryos.org and discovered that there was no logo. After googling
it, I got to the mailing list, where I read that you are currently seeking a
logo  and I
thought I might be able to help.

So I made a rough draft for a Vala brand identity which can be downloaded
here.
I'd love to hear feedback, criticism or anything else ;)

kind regards
tobias bernard

ps. If you want to check my design skills, take a look at my
website.
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Re: [Vala] Vala logo proposals

[Joseph Montanez]

This reminds me of Electronic Arts Logo, except the A on their logo is
a bit more detailed and inside the circle. Vala is so simple in
lettering its really hard to sell a detailed logo since it detours the
eye. Its very clean that's for certain. So my favorite is "Vings" #4.
It would be a fun twist to say Vala gives you vings! Which closely
follows Redbull gives you wings!

On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Tobias Bernard  wrote:
> Hi
>
> Some time ago I checked out the Vala Wikipedia page after reading about it
> on elementaryos.org and discovered that there was no logo. After googling
> it, I got to the mailing list, where I read that you are currently seeking a
> logo  and I
> thought I might be able to help.
>
> So I made a rough draft for a Vala brand identity which can be downloaded
> here .
> I'd love to hear feedback, criticism or anything else ;)
>
> kind regards
> tobias bernard
>
> ps. If you want to check my design skills, take a look at my
> website.
> I'm using Inkscape/GIMP on Ubuntu 11.04.
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Re: [Vala] Vala logo proposals

[Rob Taylor]

On 15/08/11 21:16, Luca Bruno wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 10:05:11PM +0200, Tobias Bernard wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> Some time ago I checked out the Vala Wikipedia page after reading about it
>> on elementaryos.org and discovered that there was no logo. After googling
>> it, I got to the mailing list, where I read that you are currently seeking a
>> logo  and I
>> thought I might be able to help.
>>
>> So I made a rough draft for a Vala brand identity which can be downloaded
>> here .
>> I'd love to hear feedback, criticism or anything else ;)
>>
>> kind regards
>> tobias bernard
>>
>> ps. If you want to check my design skills, take a look at my
>> website.
>> I'm using Inkscape/GIMP on Ubuntu 11.04.
> 
> Wow, that looks like something serious. Thanks for your work.
> 
> 01: I like this, looks more like falcon.
> 02: Too feather-like and circle
> 03: Too flame-like
> 04: Too complex and high
> 05: Nice but it isn't convincing me
> 
> The warrior looks too old school, like '90ies. I'd like some glassy effect.
> 
> About colors I like the tango palette [1] which is vibrant. Also I
> wouldn't use blue, too old school, rather some green, yellow or gray.
> 
> [1] http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Icon_Theme_Guidelines
> 


Really nice work Tobias!

I think what Luca might be getting at here with 'too high' could be
addressed with a horizontal layout. Horizontal would probably work
better in a webpage context. 01's wing followed by the typographic logo
could look very cool =)


HTH,
Rob

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Re: [Vala] Vala logo proposals

[Fabian Deutsch]

Hey,

Am Montag, den 15.08.2011, 22:05 +0200 schrieb Tobias Bernard:
> So I made a rough draft for a Vala brand identity which can be downloaded
> here .
> I'd love to hear feedback, criticism or anything else ;)

this is great work.
I'd go for 01. 'WING'.

Thanks
fabian

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Re: [Vala] Vala logo proposals

[rastersoft]

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Hi:

The logo text is great, but I dislike the logo symbols... What about a
V letter "in speed", like the feathers in the first wing? Something
like this:

http://www.rastersoft.com/vala_fast_v.png

I'm not a good graphic designer, but I think you can get the idea...

El 15/08/11 22:05, Tobias Bernard escribió:
> Hi
>
> Some time ago I checked out the Vala Wikipedia page after reading
> about it on elementaryos.org and discovered that there was no logo.
> After googling it, I got to the mailing list, where I read that you
> are currently seeking a logo
>  and
> I thought I might be able to help.
>
> So I made a rough draft for a Vala brand identity which can be
> downloaded here . I'd love to hear
> feedback, criticism or anything else ;)
>
> kind regards tobias bernard
>
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> website. I'm using Inkscape/GIMP on
> Ubuntu 11.04.
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Re: [Vala] Vala logo proposals

[TechnoSophos]

I like 1 and 3. I like the incorporation of V into #3.

While I think the muted color palette is very professional (suit and
tie, maybe), I agree that a bright palette fits Vala's intent to be
fresh and vibrant.

Matt

On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Luca Bruno  wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 10:05:11PM +0200, Tobias Bernard wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> Some time ago I checked out the Vala Wikipedia page after reading about it
>> on elementaryos.org and discovered that there was no logo. After googling
>> it, I got to the mailing list, where I read that you are currently seeking a
>> logo  and I
>> thought I might be able to help.
>>
>> So I made a rough draft for a Vala brand identity which can be downloaded
>> here .
>> I'd love to hear feedback, criticism or anything else ;)
>>
>> kind regards
>> tobias bernard
>>
>> ps. If you want to check my design skills, take a look at my
>> website.
>> I'm using Inkscape/GIMP on Ubuntu 11.04.
>
> Wow, that looks like something serious. Thanks for your work.
>
> 01: I like this, looks more like falcon.
> 02: Too feather-like and circle
> 03: Too flame-like
> 04: Too complex and high
> 05: Nice but it isn't convincing me
>
> The warrior looks too old school, like '90ies. I'd like some glassy effect.
>
> About colors I like the tango palette [1] which is vibrant. Also I
> wouldn't use blue, too old school, rather some green, yellow or gray.
>
> [1] http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Icon_Theme_Guidelines
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Re: [Vala] Vala logo proposals

[Luca Bruno]

On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 10:05:11PM +0200, Tobias Bernard wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Some time ago I checked out the Vala Wikipedia page after reading about it
> on elementaryos.org and discovered that there was no logo. After googling
> it, I got to the mailing list, where I read that you are currently seeking a
> logo  and I
> thought I might be able to help.
> 
> So I made a rough draft for a Vala brand identity which can be downloaded
> here .
> I'd love to hear feedback, criticism or anything else ;)
> 
> kind regards
> tobias bernard
> 
> ps. If you want to check my design skills, take a look at my
> website.
> I'm using Inkscape/GIMP on Ubuntu 11.04.

Wow, that looks like something serious. Thanks for your work.

01: I like this, looks more like falcon.
02: Too feather-like and circle
03: Too flame-like
04: Too complex and high
05: Nice but it isn't convincing me

The warrior looks too old school, like '90ies. I'd like some glassy effect.

About colors I like the tango palette [1] which is vibrant. Also I
wouldn't use blue, too old school, rather some green, yellow or gray.

[1] http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Icon_Theme_Guidelines

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Re: [Vala] Vala Logo Showcase

[Levi Bard]

My favorite is #4.
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Re: [Vala] Vala logo suggestion(s)

[Andrea Del Signore]

On Sat, 2011-07-30 at 10:00 -0500, Carlos Zuniga wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Serge Hulne  wrote:
> > http://www.clipartof.com/portfolio/cidepix/illustration/letter-v-logo-icons-1067737.html
> >
> > Serge.
> 
> Can anyone suggest a logo? :) Here's one using the idea of using the v
> to make all the letters
> 
> http://imgur.com/y7B1G
> 
> Here's the svg file in case someone wants to modify it:
> http://pastebin.com/ewJEnXfr
> 

I like a lot this idea.

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Re: [Vala] Vala logo suggestion(s)

[Ronaldo Nascimento]

now that is nicely done
needs a little more color me thinks
but im no artist (see http://i.imgur.com/FySkR.png for reference)

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On Sat, 2011-07-30 at 10:00 -0500, Carlos Zuniga wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Serge Hulne  wrote:
> > http://www.clipartof.com/portfolio/cidepix/illustration/letter-v-logo-icons-1067737.html
> >
> > Serge.
> 
> Can anyone suggest a logo? :) Here's one using the idea of using the v
> to make all the letters
> 
> http://imgur.com/y7B1G
> 
> Here's the svg file in case someone wants to modify it:
> http://pastebin.com/ewJEnXfr
> 

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Re: [Vala] Vala logo suggestion(s)

[Carlos Zuniga]

On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Luca Bruno  wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 10:00:23AM -0500, Carlos Zuniga wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Serge Hulne  wrote:
>> > http://www.clipartof.com/portfolio/cidepix/illustration/letter-v-logo-icons-1067737.html
>> >
>> > Serge.
>>
>> Can anyone suggest a logo? :) Here's one using the idea of using the v
>> to make all the letters
>>
>> http://imgur.com/y7B1G
>>
>> Here's the svg file in case someone wants to modify it:
>> http://pastebin.com/ewJEnXfr
>
> Interesting. I think it could get more vibrant using the tango palette and
> some glossy effect. A version with all the letters on the same row would be
> interesting as well.
> Will put that for the next gallery.
>

Here are two with all the letters in one row, one in one color and the
other using tango:

http://imgur.com/a/dqBnI

And here's the svg: http://pastebin.com/umz1VMER
I've made the shadows separate layers so changing the base colors is easy.

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Re: [Vala] Vala logo suggestion(s)

[Luca Bruno]

On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 10:00:23AM -0500, Carlos Zuniga wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Serge Hulne  wrote:
> > http://www.clipartof.com/portfolio/cidepix/illustration/letter-v-logo-icons-1067737.html
> >
> > Serge.
> 
> Can anyone suggest a logo? :) Here's one using the idea of using the v
> to make all the letters
> 
> http://imgur.com/y7B1G
> 
> Here's the svg file in case someone wants to modify it:
> http://pastebin.com/ewJEnXfr

Interesting. I think it could get more vibrant using the tango palette and
some glossy effect. A version with all the letters on the same row would be
interesting as well.
Will put that for the next gallery.

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Re: [Vala] Vala logo suggestion(s)

[Carlos Zuniga]

On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Serge Hulne  wrote:
> http://www.clipartof.com/portfolio/cidepix/illustration/letter-v-logo-icons-1067737.html
>
> Serge.

Can anyone suggest a logo? :) Here's one using the idea of using the v
to make all the letters

http://imgur.com/y7B1G

Here's the svg file in case someone wants to modify it:
http://pastebin.com/ewJEnXfr

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Re: [Vala] Vala logo suggestion(s)

[Serge Hulne]

I agree, except perhaps for the one on the right-hand side at the bottom.
(The blue parallelepiped with the green triangle).


   - - it is simple.
   - - It suggests both a robust, simple geometric shape and a stylised
   bamboo (a bamboo stem with a leaf).
   - - it says "Vala" in the sense that it coveys both a sense of rigour and
   a sense of "organic" growth (in one word "pragmatism").
   - - It is asymmetric, yet balanced (very Zen).

Perhaps with different colors and sightly different balance between the
shape of the two components, it could look really cool.

Serge.


On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 8:05 AM, Luca Bruno  wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 03:09:06AM +0200, Serge Hulne wrote:
>>
http://www.clipartof.com/portfolio/cidepix/illustration/letter-v-logo-icons-1067737.html
>
> I think they are a little complex (too much work on the V) and a revamped
> version of '90 logos. They can be good for microsoft products :P
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Re: [Vala] Vala logo suggestion(s)

[Luca Bruno]

On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 03:09:06AM +0200, Serge Hulne wrote:
> http://www.clipartof.com/portfolio/cidepix/illustration/letter-v-logo-icons-1067737.html

I think they are a little complex (too much work on the V) and a revamped
version of '90 logos. They can be good for microsoft products :P

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Re: [Vala] Vala Logo Showcase

[Joseph Montanez]

The really fat V, 1,2,7,8 makes me think of http://www.ogre3d.org/

I really like logo #4, but I think just a solid dark gray color is
fine. Its cheaper to print and works with letting anyone use whatever
color they want for integration purposes.

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> I've been asked to to some changes to the new logo and the old logo as well,
> so I tried to make different flavors of the logos, please express your
> opinion :)
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/lethalman88/ValaLogo?authuser=0&feat=directlink
>
> Personally, I prefer the big V with emerald color.
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Re: [Vala] Vala Logo Showcase

[Ronaldo Nascimento]

number 8
green reminds me of vala, i guess cause of valide website

On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 13:33 +0200, Luca Bruno wrote:
> I've been asked to to some changes to the new logo and the old logo as well,
> so I tried to make different flavors of the logos, please express your
> opinion :)
> 
> https://picasaweb.google.com/lethalman88/ValaLogo?authuser=0&feat=directlink
> 
> Personally, I prefer the big V with emerald color.
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Re: [Vala] Vala logo, take three?

[Chris Molozian]

+1

My favourite is logo #7 closely followed by #8. To me the super hero 
logo comparison is playful and warm and reminds how much more fun it is 
to work with GTK and GLib in Vala than in C


Cheers,

Chris


On 07/30/11 01:09, Nor Jaidi Tuah wrote:

Vala logos no 1, 2, 7 and 8 look (because of their angles and line
lengths) a little bit like super hero

Vala is a super language.
Any doubt about that?
:)

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Re: [Vala] Vala logo, take three?

[Nor Jaidi Tuah]

> Vala logos no 1, 2, 7 and 8 look (because of their angles and line 
> lengths) a little bit like super hero 

Vala is a super language.
Any doubt about that?
:)

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Re: [Vala] Vala logo, take three?

[Luca Bruno]

On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 09:30:57PM +0200, Bernd Nicklas wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Vala logos no 1, 2, 7 and 8 look (because of their angles and line
> lengths) a little bit like super hero and therefore (in my opinion,
> please do not take this personal) a little cheap and unreliable.
> 
> Vala logo 3, 4, 5, 6, 9 and 10 look more symmetric and round,
> therefore more impressive and reliable.
> 
> Vala logo 3 and 4 have warmer colors than the other logos, therefore
> warmer impression. Blue usually is interpreted as reliable. Green as
> natural. Red as warm, eye-catching (signal color) and a little
> ominous. Usually a good mix. Think of google or picasa...
> 
> Vala logo 10 looks natural and a little bit cold.
> 
> My favorites are 3 and 4.

Thanks. To point it out, many relate those three colors to gtk colors.

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Re: [Vala] Vala logo, take three?

[Bernd Nicklas]

Hello,

Vala logos no 1, 2, 7 and 8 look (because of their angles and line 
lengths) a little bit like super hero and therefore (in my opinion, 
please do not take this personal) a little cheap and unreliable.


Vala logo 3, 4, 5, 6, 9 and 10 look more symmetric and round, therefore 
more impressive and reliable.


Vala logo 3 and 4 have warmer colors than the other logos, therefore 
warmer impression. Blue usually is interpreted as reliable. Green as 
natural. Red as warm, eye-catching (signal color) and a little ominous. 
Usually a good mix. Think of google or picasa...


Vala logo 10 looks natural and a little bit cold.

My favorites are 3 and 4.

Only a personal opinion.

Best regards

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Re: [Vala] Vala Logo Showcase

[aliva]

I like #7 and #8
but I think the problem for 7, 8 is they look like a broken triangle
(instead of being like a V)
I think #8 is like Qt logo so I prefer #7

(can you color them with light gray?)

On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:34 PM, Iñigo Serna  wrote:

> Logo #1 for me.
>
> Iñigo
>
> On 29 July 2011 18:59, Christian Siefkes  wrote:
> > On 07/29/2011 06:24 PM, Lewis Gunsch wrote:
> >> Logo #10 looks great to me. Although, on the bottom the darker green
> band is
> >> somewhat distracting. I wouldn't take it away, but maybe do a gradient
> or
> >> something like to reduce the distraction.
> >>
> >> The green seems to work well, and the circled V also seems to work
> nicely.
> >
> > I would also prefer Logo #10, with or without some variations.
> >
> >Christian
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Re: [Vala] Vala logo, take three?

[Matias De la Puente]

El 28/07/11 16:38, Luca Bruno escribió:

Ok,
I retry with another logo :)

http://i.imgur.com/oFwpC.png



Another logo: 'vala tux' :)

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Re: [Vala] Vala logo, take three?

[Matias De la Puente]

El 29/07/11 13:16, Jim Peters escribió:

Luca Bruno wrote:

I retry with another logo :)

http://i.imgur.com/oFwpC.png

(attached is a remix to make it spell the whole word)


¡This is better! I like this one now :)


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Re: [Vala] Vala logo, take three?

[bsquared]

Nice.

On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Jim Peters  wrote:
> Luca Bruno wrote:
>> I retry with another logo :)
>>
>> http://i.imgur.com/oFwpC.png
>
> (attached is a remix to make it spell the whole word)
>
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Re: [Vala] Vala logo, take three?

[Fred van Zwieten]

I like this one. This remix is a great find :-)

Greetz,
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> Ok,
> I retry with another logo :)
>
> http://i.imgur.com/oFwpC.png
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Re: [Vala] Vala Logo Showcase

[Iñigo Serna]

Logo #1 for me.

Iñigo

On 29 July 2011 18:59, Christian Siefkes  wrote:
> On 07/29/2011 06:24 PM, Lewis Gunsch wrote:
>> Logo #10 looks great to me. Although, on the bottom the darker green band is
>> somewhat distracting. I wouldn't take it away, but maybe do a gradient or
>> something like to reduce the distraction.
>>
>> The green seems to work well, and the circled V also seems to work nicely.
>
> I would also prefer Logo #10, with or without some variations.
>
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Re: [Vala] Vala Logo Showcase

[Christian Siefkes]

On 07/29/2011 06:24 PM, Lewis Gunsch wrote:
> Logo #10 looks great to me. Although, on the bottom the darker green band is
> somewhat distracting. I wouldn't take it away, but maybe do a gradient or
> something like to reduce the distraction.
> 
> The green seems to work well, and the circled V also seems to work nicely.

I would also prefer Logo #10, with or without some variations.

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I've never seen a child who didn't want to build something out of blocks,
or learn something new, or try the next task. And the only reason why
adults aren't like that is, I suppose, that they have been sent to school
and other oppressive institutions, which have driven that out of them.
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Re: [Vala] Vala Logo Showcase

[Lewis Gunsch]

Logo #10 looks great to me. Although, on the bottom the darker green band is
somewhat distracting. I wouldn't take it away, but maybe do a gradient or
something like to reduce the distraction.

The green seems to work well, and the circled V also seems to work nicely.

I also like #2. Its very distinctive, and looks good. Somewhat less going on
and more concise.

~Lewis

On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 8:12 AM, Jacques-Pascal Deplaix <
jp.depl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 07/29/2011 03:46 PM, Luca Bruno wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 03:42:33PM +0200, Jacques-Pascal Deplaix wrote:
>>
>>> On 07/29/2011 01:33 PM, Luca Bruno wrote:
>>>
 Personally, I prefer the big V with emerald color.

>>> So do I.
>>> The little one remind me a super hero logo.
>>>
>> I meant logo #8 ;)
>>
>>  Oups, I meant the logo #10...
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Re: [Vala] Vala logo, take three?

[Jim Peters]

Luca Bruno wrote:
> I retry with another logo :)
> 
> http://i.imgur.com/oFwpC.png

(attached is a remix to make it spell the whole word)

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Re: [Vala] Vala Logo Showcase

[Jacques-Pascal Deplaix]

On 07/29/2011 03:46 PM, Luca Bruno wrote:

On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 03:42:33PM +0200, Jacques-Pascal Deplaix wrote:

On 07/29/2011 01:33 PM, Luca Bruno wrote:

Personally, I prefer the big V with emerald color.

So do I.
The little one remind me a super hero logo.

I meant logo #8 ;)


Oups, I meant the logo #10...
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Re: [Vala] Vala Logo Showcase

[Luca Bruno]

On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 03:42:33PM +0200, Jacques-Pascal Deplaix wrote:
> On 07/29/2011 01:33 PM, Luca Bruno wrote:
> >Personally, I prefer the big V with emerald color.
> So do I.
> The little one remind me a super hero logo.

I meant logo #8 ;)

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Re: [Vala] Vala Logo Showcase

[Jacques-Pascal Deplaix]

On 07/29/2011 01:33 PM, Luca Bruno wrote:

Personally, I prefer the big V with emerald color.

So do I.
The little one remind me a super hero logo.
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Re: [Vala] Vala Logo Showcase

[Matias De la Puente]

El 29/07/11 09:33, Luca Bruno escribió:

On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 09:29:44AM -0300, Matias De la Puente wrote:

El 29/07/11 08:33, Luca Bruno escribió:

I've been asked to to some changes to the new logo and the old logo as well,
so I tried to make different flavors of the logos, please express your
opinion :)

https://picasaweb.google.com/lethalman88/ValaLogo?authuser=0&feat=directlink

Personally, I prefer the big V with emerald color.


I like the logo 10, but with a thinner border

The outer dark circle you mean? Yes maybe it's too thick.


yeah, that one
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Re: [Vala] Vala Logo Showcase

[Luca Bruno]

On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 09:29:44AM -0300, Matias De la Puente wrote:
> El 29/07/11 08:33, Luca Bruno escribió:
> >I've been asked to to some changes to the new logo and the old logo as well,
> >so I tried to make different flavors of the logos, please express your
> >opinion :)
> >
> >https://picasaweb.google.com/lethalman88/ValaLogo?authuser=0&feat=directlink
> >
> >Personally, I prefer the big V with emerald color.
> >
> 
> I like the logo 10, but with a thinner border

The outer dark circle you mean? Yes maybe it's too thick.

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Re: [Vala] Vala Logo Showcase

[Matias De la Puente]

El 29/07/11 08:33, Luca Bruno escribió:

I've been asked to to some changes to the new logo and the old logo as well,
so I tried to make different flavors of the logos, please express your
opinion :)

https://picasaweb.google.com/lethalman88/ValaLogo?authuser=0&feat=directlink

Personally, I prefer the big V with emerald color.



I like the logo 10, but with a thinner border


Matias
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Re: [Vala] Vala Logo Showcase

[Luca Bruno]

On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 01:15:23PM +0100, Dru Moore wrote:
> Very difficult to express an opinion without being able to reference
> what if any design brief you are working to. Is there a document
> floating around somewhere?

Really no such think, just express if you like it or not, and if you'd try
any particular changes :)

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Re: [Vala] Vala Logo Showcase

[Dru Moore]

Very difficult to express an opinion without being able to reference
what if any design brief you are working to. Is there a document
floating around somewhere?
I've seen some messages about logos from time to time on the list here
but don't recall anything detailed.

On 29 July 2011 12:33, Luca Bruno  wrote:
> I've been asked to to some changes to the new logo and the old logo as well,
> so I tried to make different flavors of the logos, please express your
> opinion :)
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/lethalman88/ValaLogo?authuser=0&feat=directlink
>
> Personally, I prefer the big V with emerald color.
>
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