Re: [vchkpw] Cdb and mysql auth modules at a time?
On Thursday 29 April 2004 02:39, Rick Widmer wrote: Good luck. Two servers, or a virtual server where each qmail+vpopmail image appeared as a separate machine would be the only ways I would want to keep them separate. If you find a reasonable way, please let us know. An idea could be to run two separate binaries each bound on a different network interface, but I think that it's not a real solution. Perhaps I could investigate using an UML virtual server, but I think that the simplest path is converting everything to mysql (and in the long run it's also probably the best approach, since it allows more web-based services to be implemented). Thanks for all your advices, I'll try to find some time to have a look at the (really interesting) pmailadmin framework. Does it work with cdb files yet? (I was told that the latest versions of PHP's dba extension support also cdb files, but I didn't check). If you support the cdb backend, how did you solve the user/group privileges problems for writing to cdb files? Thanks again ce -- Computer science is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes. -- E. W. Dijkstra
Re: [vchkpw] Cdb and mysql auth modules at a time?
Cesare D'Amico wrote: Thanks for all your advices, I'll try to find some time to have a look at the (really interesting) pmailadmin framework. Does it work with cdb files yet? Right now there are things that only work with cdb files. At least with the extension option. Once I get all the features working I will convert my test system to MySQL and do what ever it takes to get it running again. At the very least I will have to add ordered alias names to the mysql back end. It should be easier there than in cdb. Just add a few ORDERED BY clauses in the right places. (I was told that the latest versions of PHP's dba extension support also cdb files, but I didn't check). Yes PHP's dba supports cdb, and is currently required by pMailAdmin. The new get_domain_entries code in vpopmail may eliminate it. If you support the cdb backend, how did you solve the user/group privileges problems for writing to cdb files? There are two ways I have found. The easy way is to run Ken's daemon and let it handle all the permissions. The other way is harder, and messy, but much faster. You have to run Apache as vpopmail:vchkpw. At least one copy for accessing vpopmail. I wouldn't want to do this on a server that hosted web sites. I have a separate machine for email and no one else can write web pages on it. I am trying to keep the documentation on the pMailAdmin site up to date, so it is worth a look. Rick
[vchkpw] Cdb and mysql auth modules at a time?
Hi all, I've googled for this, but I came to nothing. Is it possible to configure vpopmail to use more than one auth module at a time? In particular, I need it to search into cdb files for some domains, and use a mysql backend for another one. That's because I was asked to consolidate two mail servers on a single machine. The problem is that one server uses cdb files, the other one has a php application manipulating the vpopmail database, which uses the mysql backend. I need to migrate this web application too, so I must keep that domain sticked to mysql. If possible, I'd rather not convert all the other domains to mysql. The older documentation in README.mysql says that if you want to convert cdb domains to mysql you should use vconvert; so I think that at least cdb and mysql can be used at the same time. Is it right or wrong? And how can I do that, if it's possible? I tried to ./configure vpopmail with both --enable-auth-module=cdb AND --enable-auth-module=mysql, but only the latter is shown in the configuration summary at the end of the ./configure step. Instead, only cdb is shown if I change their order (that actually makes sense :) By the way, I've tried that with vpopmail 5.4.0. Thanks for your help and your great software ;) Ciao ce -- Cesare D'Amico - boss (@t) cesaredamico (dot) com http://cesaredamico.com ~ http://phpday.it ~ http://verona.linux.it/ Key on pgp.mit.edu, ID 92802693.
Re: [vchkpw] Cdb and mysql auth modules at a time?
Cesare D'Amico wrote: snip Ciao ce Not possible. At this time. X-Istence
Re: [vchkpw] Cdb and mysql auth modules at a time?
Alle 01:37, giovedì 29 aprile 2004, X-Istence ha scritto: Not possible. At this time. D'oh! I think I'll have to do something on the web app then. Or perhaps try to use two sets of vpopmail binaries, which isn't a really appealing possibility. Thanks for the quick reply :) Ciao ce -- Cesare D'Amico - boss (@t) cesaredamico (dot) com http://cesaredamico.com ~ http://phpday.it ~ http://verona.linux.it/ Key on pgp.mit.edu, ID 92802693. Questa è la mia vita, se ho bisogno te lo dico, sono io che guido, io che vado fuori strada, sempre io che pago... non è mai successo che pagassero per me... [Questa è la mia vita - Ligabue]
Re: [vchkpw] Cdb and mysql auth modules at a time?
Cesare D'Amico wrote: Hi all, I've googled for this, but I came to nothing. Is it possible to configure vpopmail to use more than one auth module at a time? That is not going to be possible because the choice of authentication back-end is made by setting a symlink (vauth.c) at compile time. As you found out, the last ./configure option wins. That's because I was asked to consolidate two mail servers on a single machine. The problem is that one server uses cdb files, the other one has a php application manipulating the vpopmail database, which uses the mysql backend. I need to migrate this web application too, so I must keep that domain sticked to mysql. If possible, I'd rather not convert all the other domains to mysql. Migrating everything to MySQL is probably going to be your best bet. If the cdb group is already using qmailadmin they won't notice the difference. Vpopmail is pretty good at abstracting the back end, and it is getting better, so they won't notice if they are using the commands in ~vpopmail/bin either. Managing vpopmail from PHP is in the process of getting easier. Ken Jones just wrote a daemon, and I am working on a PHP extension and a pair of classes that abstract them so a program can use either just by changing one include statement. It is all very much under construction, and I don't suggest you try it unless you are willing to debug and possibly even write some code for the project. You can see what is happening here: http://pmailadmin.sourceforge.net The older documentation in README.mysql says that if you want to convert cdb domains to mysql you should use vconvert; so I think that at least cdb and mysql can be used at the same time. Is it right or wrong? I haven't figured out how vconvert does it yet. I will have to one of these days, but not soon. I still run a straight cdb shop. My guess is that vconvert actually does cdb within itself, and provides one SQL back end, the one you selected at compile time. Even though the program --help seems to imply that you can vconvert from mysql to pgsql I don't think it is possible. I would love it if someone who knows would explain it... I think I'll have to do something on the web app then. Or perhaps try to use two sets of vpopmail binaries, which isn't a really appealing possibility. Good luck. Two servers, or a virtual server where each qmail+vpopmail image appeared as a separate machine would be the only ways I would want to keep them separate. If you find a reasonable way, please let us know. Rick
