Re: [vchkpw] proposed vpopmaild commands/usage

2004-04-05 Thread Holger Seidenberg
Hi all,
where can i find vpopmaild?

Am Mo, den 05.04.2004 schrieb Ken Jones um 16:16:
> vpopmaild Monday status and summary
> 
> 1) Status 
> I have a working vpopmaild that authenticates and runs
> a few of the commands below. I'll be working on more
> of the functions today. I'll update CVS later today so
> people can pick up a working copy.
> 
> 1) The auth command. 
> Let's have it return the user information for who is authenticating. 
> I think that information could be handy. Plus for System Admins
> return the full path to vpopmail/domains directory. And for Domain Admins
> return the full path to the domain directory.
> 
> 2) Directories.
> Following up on what Rick was suggesting for directory paths.
> For simplicity perhaps we should use full paths for everything.
> With the auth command returning full paths and the user 
> information containing full paths it might make things easier
> to understand if everything uses full paths.
> 
> 3) Current list of proposed functions
> Authentication:
> auth
> 
> User commands:
> add_user del_user mod_user user_info
> 
> Domain commands:
> add_domain del_domain dom_info 
> (do we need mod_domain?)
> 
> Directory/File commands:
> mk_dir rm_dir list_dir 
> mk_file rm_file write_file read_file 
> (perhaps mk_file and write_file should be one function)
> 
> List commands:
> list_domains list_users list_alias list_lists
> 
> IP mapping commands:
> get_ip_map add_ip_map del_ip_map show_ip_map
> 
> Limit commands:
> get_limits set_limits del_limits
> 
> Last Auth commands:
> get_lastauth get_lastauthip
> (perhaps just one get_lastauth command returning date and ip?)
> 
> Mailing list comamnds:
> add_list del_list mod_list
> 
> Graceful close:
> quit
> 
> Ken
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Re: [vchkpw] proposed vpopmaild commands/usage

2004-04-05 Thread Ken Jones
vpopmaild Monday status and summary

1) Status 
I have a working vpopmaild that authenticates and runs
a few of the commands below. I'll be working on more
of the functions today. I'll update CVS later today so
people can pick up a working copy.

1) The auth command. 
Let's have it return the user information for who is authenticating. 
I think that information could be handy. Plus for System Admins
return the full path to vpopmail/domains directory. And for Domain Admins
return the full path to the domain directory.

2) Directories.
Following up on what Rick was suggesting for directory paths.
For simplicity perhaps we should use full paths for everything.
With the auth command returning full paths and the user 
information containing full paths it might make things easier
to understand if everything uses full paths.

3) Current list of proposed functions
Authentication:
auth

User commands:
add_user del_user mod_user user_info

Domain commands:
add_domain del_domain dom_info 
(do we need mod_domain?)

Directory/File commands:
mk_dir rm_dir list_dir 
mk_file rm_file write_file read_file 
(perhaps mk_file and write_file should be one function)

List commands:
list_domains list_users list_alias list_lists

IP mapping commands:
get_ip_map add_ip_map del_ip_map show_ip_map

Limit commands:
get_limits set_limits del_limits

Last Auth commands:
get_lastauth get_lastauthip
(perhaps just one get_lastauth command returning date and ip?)

Mailing list comamnds:
add_list del_list mod_list

Graceful close:
quit

Ken


Re: [vchkpw] proposed vpopmaild commands/usage

2004-04-05 Thread Marcin Soltysiak
> Here is what I've come up with so far for the vpopmaild daemon.
> Comments?

One more. Prototypes you sent don't include options to vaddusers etc.
Options should be passed along in this protocol so that we could use for
example vaddduser -n :-)

Solt



Re: [vchkpw] proposed vpopmaild commands/usage

2004-04-04 Thread X-Istence
Iavor Raytchev wrote:
Guys,

I am in hospital at the moment - one of the muscles of my left leg refused
to work and the doctors look for the reason.
Get better first, then think about this, its a second priority.

I could not read all posts - I would just like to tell you that two more
people are interested in this daemon - and they want to write it - so it
seems that this project has the unique chance to be something supported by a
broad community of top people. I have never managed such huge community
effort, so I have no idea about the dynamics. I only hope that personal
pursuits will not allow any of the great people interested in the daemon to
be lost.


Ken Jones has allready written one, and was releasing a beta on Monday, 
we shall see how that goes.


I'll try to come back to the list on Monday.

Until then - best to all,

Iavor



X-Istence



RE: [vchkpw] proposed vpopmaild commands/usage

2004-04-04 Thread Iavor Raytchev
Guys,

I am in hospital at the moment - one of the muscles of my left leg refused
to work and the doctors look for the reason.

I could not read all posts - I would just like to tell you that two more
people are interested in this daemon - and they want to write it - so it
seems that this project has the unique chance to be something supported by a
broad community of top people. I have never managed such huge community
effort, so I have no idea about the dynamics. I only hope that personal
pursuits will not allow any of the great people interested in the daemon to
be lost.

I'll try to come back to the list on Monday.

Until then - best to all,

Iavor




Re: [vchkpw] proposed vpopmaild commands/usage

2004-04-03 Thread Rick Widmer


Rick Widmer wrote:
mkdir
auth: SA - restricted to vpopmail domain directories
auth: DA - restricted to DA domain directory
auth: U - restricted to users directory
usage: mkdir 
OK - on success
ERROR  


What is , and how do I specify them.  I think my favorite
would be:
  SA  -  prepend ~vpopmail/domains/ to 

  DA  -  prepend ~vpopmail/domains/mydomain/ to 

  U   -  prepend ~vpopmail/domains/mydomain/myuser/ to 

On the other hand that requires the programmer on the PHP side to
describe the directory differently depending on the access level of the
user that is logged in.  Maybe it is better to just prepend
~vpopmail/domains to the directory and require the user to send the
directory part below no matter what access is available.  That way I
don't have to change how I specify a directory based on the user's rights.
Is there _any_ reason the daemon should ever access any file or
directory above  ~vpopmail/domains?


The more I think about this, the more I prefer to have vpopmaild always 
prepend ~vpopmail/domains/ to all entries, and no matter what kind of 
user is logged in, the program using the daemon always has to include 
the domain and user directories in the request.

The daemon would allow SA users any directory under ~vpopmail/domains, 
require DA users to specify their domain directory, and U users must 
specify their domain directory and user directory.

I think that would simplify code on both sides of the connection.

Also...

I forgot to list these missing commands:

getdir
auth: SA - restricted to vpopmail domain directories
auth: DA - restricted to DA domain directory
auth: U - restricted to users directory
usage: getdir 
OK - on success
ERROR  
Returns a list of files and directories, one per line.  Is there any 
information in a ls that we want to have besides just the file/dir name?

getfile
auth: SA - restricted to vpopmail domain directories
auth: DA - restricted to DA domain directory
auth: U - restricted to users directory
usage: getfile 
OK - on success
ERROR  
Returns the contents of a file, followed by a blank line, then the 
status.  Maybe we need the size of the file, in lines; just in case the 
file being received has blank lines followed with things that look like 
a status report.  Maybe we need some kind of unique terminator.  I'm not 
sure, but I do need to be able to do things like list the current 
contents of a mail robot Message file.





Re: [vchkpw] proposed vpopmaild commands/usage

2004-04-03 Thread Rick Widmer


Ken Jones wrote:

Here is what I've come up with so far for the vpopmaild daemon.
Looking good!   Can I get an early copy?  I'd like to try to build the
PHP object to connect with it using sockets.  I think most of what you
have done looks great.

Comments?
Several.

You don't show any authentication commands.  How do I login to the daemon?

How will the daemon report what access level the user has?  I'm sure the
program using the daemon will have to adapt to the rights of the current
user.
How are you planning to authenticate SA users?  (Where are the passwords
kept.)

adduser
auth: SA - no restrictions
auth: DA - must match DA domain
usage: adduser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
OK - on success
ERROR  
A SA user should be able to use

   adduser  

to create a new SA user through the interface.  Or something similar, I
would like to manage system users within the application.

mkdir
auth: SA - restricted to vpopmail domain directories
auth: DA - restricted to DA domain directory
auth: U - restricted to users directory
usage: mkdir 
OK - on success
ERROR  
What is , and how do I specify them.  I think my favorite
would be:
  SA  -  prepend ~vpopmail/domains/ to 

  DA  -  prepend ~vpopmail/domains/mydomain/ to 

  U   -  prepend ~vpopmail/domains/mydomain/myuser/ to 

On the other hand that requires the programmer on the PHP side to
describe the directory differently depending on the access level of the
user that is logged in.  Maybe it is better to just prepend
~vpopmail/domains to the directory and require the user to send the
directory part below no matter what access is available.  That way I
don't have to change how I specify a directory based on the user's rights.
Is there _any_ reason the daemon should ever access any file or
directory above  ~vpopmail/domains?
Please be sure to look up vpopmail's home directory, and not just assume
it is /home/vpopmail!  (Compile time is fine.)
Error Codes:
Not yet defined
Where possible, pass existing error codes on, and make up all new codes
so they have unique values.  (Check against vpopmail and ezmlm for
existing codes.)
MISSING FUNCTIONS:

   Listing

listdomain
auth: SA - list all domains
auth: DA - no access, return an error
auth: U  - no access, return an error
usage listdomain
List of all domains, in alpha order, followed by an empty line, followed
by OK.
NOTE:  The base code for this should be placed in vpopmail itself.  I am
specifying alpha order because it is so easy for all of the database
back ends to do, and not that much harder to do for CDB.  (Yes I will
handle the CDB interface to allow this.  It is much like my patch to
list aliases in order.)
listuser
auth: SA - can list any domain
auth: DA - can list own domain
auth: u  - no access, return an error
usage listuser 
List all users (accounts with a maildir, and pop/imap access) in alpha
order, within the domain, followed by a blank line then OK.
listalias
auth: SA - can list any domain
auth: DA - can list own domain
auth: u  - no access, return an error
usage listalias 
List all aliases (.qmail files, or aliases stored in a database) in
alpha order, using the new valias capabilities of vpopmail.
NOTE:  Tom's valias support handles most of this.  Add my patch for CDB
and a 'ORDER BY' statement in the SQL code for the database plugins to
have vpopmail return the values in the correct order.
This will use the vpopmail functions valias_select and valias_select_next.

listlist
auth: SA - can list any domain
auth: DA - can list own domain
auth: u  - no access, return an error
usage listalias 
List all mailing lists, in alpha order within the domain.  This will
probably involve searching for symlinks in the Domain's directory.
I would like to get my hands on the following vpopmail functions:

Alias Handling
  valias_insert
  valias_delete
  valias_remove
There is no current support in vpopmail for it, but it would be very
nice to have a set of functions that store and retrieve aliases in a
user specified order.  This does not have to be done now, but should be
on the long term plan.
IP Mapping
  vget_ip_map
  vadd_ip_map
  vdel_ip_map
  vshow_ip_map
Domain Limits
  vget_limits
  vset_limits
  vdel_limits
Last Authentication
  vget_lastauth
  vget_lastauthip
  vset_lastauth
You might want to call vset_lastauth yourself, and not make it something
that can be requested by the daemon.  At least SA and DA users should be
able to view lastauth info on their users.
And then there are mailing lists...

Right now my policy on ezmlm is to ignore it till the rest of my
QmailAdmin project is complete.  Sorry, I don't know much about how
mailing lists are handled now, but I do feel they are important to
manage from PHP.
If someone knows more about what is required, please chime in!

Rick





Re: [vchkpw] proposed vpopmaild commands/usage

2004-04-03 Thread Marcin Soltysiak
Hi,

> Here is what I've come up with so far for the vpopmaild daemon.
> Comments?

addaliasdomain (and derivatives)
auth: SA - no restrictions
auth: DA - depends on privileges
usage: adddomain  
returns:
OK - on success
ERROR  

example:
client -> adddomain example.com test
vpopmaild -> OK
or
vpopmaild -> ERROR XXX alias domains not allowed

setdomainquota
setadminuser - to set other than postmater domain admin

> I have a working vpopmaild now. If we can work out the details then
> I can probably have a version for testing by Monday.
Great!

> I added file/directory commands so we can manage .qmail files
> or create autoresponder directories/files etc.
Will need extending vpopmail PHP class but ...

> I'm thinking we should keep the vpopmaild as simple as possible,
> and place most of the intelligence for formating these simple commands
> into the php module. 

... that is good as well.

Solt