Benchmarking Software's on VCL

2012-04-16 Thread Kumar, Amit H.
Dear All,

I have run into issues of software(GIS) being slower on VCL as opposed to 
Laptop. Although I have 8GB RAM and 2 vCPU assigned for this VM, comparison of 
few tests resulted in poor performance on VCL. It could be the nature of GIS 
and RDP or something else.

I have tried to isolate GIS vm's onto one blade and no other vm's end up on 
this blade.

Any ideas or options on how could I track this down to identify what could 
cause this.

Thank you,
Amit



Re: Benchmarking Software's on VCL

2012-04-16 Thread Mike Haudenschild
Hi Amit,

There will definitely be delays in screen refresh rates as a result of the
RDP connection, so if, for example, you're dragging a map or other objects
you may notice some lag.  You might try adjusting Windows visual settings
for best performance from the System control panel.

There are also performance settings on the RDP client itself.  Try
opening Remote Desktop Connection and manually entering the connection
information -- depending upon your platform, the RDP client settings for
performance will be in a different tab.

GIS software can also be doing a lot of number crunching.  (Confirm the
specs in Windows System control panel on the client VM if you haven't
already to make sure the proper resources are assigned by VCL.)  Have you
run any other applications in the VM/VCL environment that experience
similar issues?

Regards,
Mike

--
*Mike Haudenschild*
Education Systems Manager
Longsight Group
(740) 599-5005 x809
m...@longsight.com
www.longsight.com



On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 09:40, Kumar, Amit H. ahku...@odu.edu wrote:

 Dear All,

 I have run into issues of software(GIS) being slower on VCL as opposed to
 Laptop. Although I have 8GB RAM and 2 vCPU assigned for this VM, comparison
 of few tests resulted in poor performance on VCL. It could be the nature of
 GIS and RDP or something else.

 I have tried to isolate GIS vm's onto one blade and no other vm's end up
 on this blade.

 Any ideas or options on how could I track this down to identify what could
 cause this.

 Thank you,
 Amit




Re: Benchmarking Software's on VCL

2012-04-16 Thread Alexander Patterson
We have the same issue here with the GIS software. It's due to RDP has to
refresh the whole screen shot. The GIS software works much better with like
a Cirtix or VMware VDI that doesVmware PCoip that only needs to fresh the
parts thats being used.

RDP does has it's down faults.

-Alex

On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 6:56 AM, Mike Haudenschild m...@longsight.comwrote:

 Hi Amit,

 There will definitely be delays in screen refresh rates as a result of the
 RDP connection, so if, for example, you're dragging a map or other objects
 you may notice some lag.  You might try adjusting Windows visual settings
 for best performance from the System control panel.

 There are also performance settings on the RDP client itself.  Try
 opening Remote Desktop Connection and manually entering the connection
 information -- depending upon your platform, the RDP client settings for
 performance will be in a different tab.

 GIS software can also be doing a lot of number crunching.  (Confirm the
 specs in Windows System control panel on the client VM if you haven't
 already to make sure the proper resources are assigned by VCL.)  Have you
 run any other applications in the VM/VCL environment that experience
 similar issues?

 Regards,
 Mike

 --
 *Mike Haudenschild*
 Education Systems Manager
 Longsight Group
 (740) 599-5005 x809
 m...@longsight.com
 www.longsight.com



 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 09:40, Kumar, Amit H. ahku...@odu.edu wrote:

  Dear All,
 
  I have run into issues of software(GIS) being slower on VCL as opposed to
  Laptop. Although I have 8GB RAM and 2 vCPU assigned for this VM,
 comparison
  of few tests resulted in poor performance on VCL. It could be the nature
 of
  GIS and RDP or something else.
 
  I have tried to isolate GIS vm's onto one blade and no other vm's end up
  on this blade.
 
  Any ideas or options on how could I track this down to identify what
 could
  cause this.
 
  Thank you,
  Amit
 
 




-- 
Thanks,
Alex  Patterson
User Support Services
Operating System Analyst
California State University, East Bay


Re: Benchmarking Software's on VCL

2012-04-16 Thread Mark Gardner
Just curious, has anyone tried using VNC to see if it helps. If I
remember correctly, VNC has the capability to refresh a subset of the
screen and hence may perform better.

Mark

On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Alexander Patterson
alexander.patter...@csueastbay.edu wrote:
 We have the same issue here with the GIS software. It's due to RDP has to
 refresh the whole screen shot. The GIS software works much better with like
 a Cirtix or VMware VDI that doesVmware PCoip that only needs to fresh the
 parts thats being used.

 RDP does has it's down faults.

 -Alex

 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 6:56 AM, Mike Haudenschild m...@longsight.comwrote:

 Hi Amit,

 There will definitely be delays in screen refresh rates as a result of the
 RDP connection, so if, for example, you're dragging a map or other objects
 you may notice some lag.  You might try adjusting Windows visual settings
 for best performance from the System control panel.

 There are also performance settings on the RDP client itself.  Try
 opening Remote Desktop Connection and manually entering the connection
 information -- depending upon your platform, the RDP client settings for
 performance will be in a different tab.

 GIS software can also be doing a lot of number crunching.  (Confirm the
 specs in Windows System control panel on the client VM if you haven't
 already to make sure the proper resources are assigned by VCL.)  Have you
 run any other applications in the VM/VCL environment that experience
 similar issues?

 Regards,
 Mike

 --
 *Mike Haudenschild*
 Education Systems Manager
 Longsight Group
 (740) 599-5005 x809
 m...@longsight.com
 www.longsight.com



 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 09:40, Kumar, Amit H. ahku...@odu.edu wrote:

  Dear All,
 
  I have run into issues of software(GIS) being slower on VCL as opposed to
  Laptop. Although I have 8GB RAM and 2 vCPU assigned for this VM,
 comparison
  of few tests resulted in poor performance on VCL. It could be the nature
 of
  GIS and RDP or something else.
 
  I have tried to isolate GIS vm's onto one blade and no other vm's end up
  on this blade.
 
  Any ideas or options on how could I track this down to identify what
 could
  cause this.
 
  Thank you,
  Amit
 
 




 --
 Thanks,
 Alex  Patterson
 User Support Services
 Operating System Analyst
 California State University, East Bay



-- 
Mark Gardner
--


Re: Benchmarking Software's on VCL

2012-04-16 Thread Aaron Peeler
We've just started testing a third party RDP accelerator called Ericom Blaze.
http://www.ericom.com/ericom_blaze.asp
Ericom has been around for a while, and I've talked with others who
are using it successfully.

Personally, I've not had a chance to test it with GIS, but have tested
it with Solidworks CAD renderings and we've seen a much better
performance over RDP.

Aaron

On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Mark Gardner m...@vt.edu wrote:
 Just curious, has anyone tried using VNC to see if it helps. If I
 remember correctly, VNC has the capability to refresh a subset of the
 screen and hence may perform better.

 Mark

 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Alexander Patterson
 alexander.patter...@csueastbay.edu wrote:
 We have the same issue here with the GIS software. It's due to RDP has to
 refresh the whole screen shot. The GIS software works much better with like
 a Cirtix or VMware VDI that doesVmware PCoip that only needs to fresh the
 parts thats being used.

 RDP does has it's down faults.

 -Alex

 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 6:56 AM, Mike Haudenschild m...@longsight.comwrote:

 Hi Amit,

 There will definitely be delays in screen refresh rates as a result of the
 RDP connection, so if, for example, you're dragging a map or other objects
 you may notice some lag.  You might try adjusting Windows visual settings
 for best performance from the System control panel.

 There are also performance settings on the RDP client itself.  Try
 opening Remote Desktop Connection and manually entering the connection
 information -- depending upon your platform, the RDP client settings for
 performance will be in a different tab.

 GIS software can also be doing a lot of number crunching.  (Confirm the
 specs in Windows System control panel on the client VM if you haven't
 already to make sure the proper resources are assigned by VCL.)  Have you
 run any other applications in the VM/VCL environment that experience
 similar issues?

 Regards,
 Mike

 --
 *Mike Haudenschild*
 Education Systems Manager
 Longsight Group
 (740) 599-5005 x809
 m...@longsight.com
 www.longsight.com



 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 09:40, Kumar, Amit H. ahku...@odu.edu wrote:

  Dear All,
 
  I have run into issues of software(GIS) being slower on VCL as opposed to
  Laptop. Although I have 8GB RAM and 2 vCPU assigned for this VM,
 comparison
  of few tests resulted in poor performance on VCL. It could be the nature
 of
  GIS and RDP or something else.
 
  I have tried to isolate GIS vm's onto one blade and no other vm's end up
  on this blade.
 
  Any ideas or options on how could I track this down to identify what
 could
  cause this.
 
  Thank you,
  Amit
 
 




 --
 Thanks,
 Alex  Patterson
 User Support Services
 Operating System Analyst
 California State University, East Bay



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 Mark Gardner
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