[vdr] No ac3 audio on Nexus

2008-04-23 Thread Pierre-Yves Paranthoen (PERSO)
Do you use WinTV Nexus DVB-S from Hauppauge ? If yes, do you use the black
coaxial digital output of the dvb-s card or the coax/spdif output of your
mother card ?
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Re: [vdr] new graphics processor from VIA S3 for HD video

2008-04-23 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 09:56:23AM +0400, Igor wrote:
   The question is: Which of them will offer decent open source drivers for 
   HD decoding, and when?
  
  I wonder if every vendor pushes his own API for using these decoding
  accelerators? Or is there some standard (It's surely beyond XvMC)?
 
 there's VAAPI - Video Decode Acceleration API Specification
 http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/vaapi
 
 but seems it hasn't finished yet :(
 

And then there's some XvMC for H.264/AVC work/patches:

http://people.freedesktop.org/~zhen/xds2007_xvmc.pdf

http://www.x.org/wiki/Events/XDS2007/Notes (link taken from here)

-- Pasi

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Re: [vdr] new graphics processor from VIA S3 for HD video

2008-04-23 Thread Theunis Potgieter
And I was just about to get exited, until I read this:

XvMC issues
● Limited hardware driver support
– Intel i810, i915/945 MC, 965 MC working in progress
– Unichrome VLD
– ATI, Nvidia (?)
● Limited modern video codec support, just for
MPEG1/2, can't support H.264/AVC.
– Multiple intra/inter prediction modes (multiple
motion vector styles)
– Multiple reference pictures
– No in-loop filter

So it appears there is no hope for my old machine with an AGP port, and
nvidia G-Force 4 MMX 440. Looks like I will have to upgrade, but the craze
will have to settle first before I buy anything. I wonder why they don't
create add-on cards in PCI format? so that it will work on older machines? I
guess they want you to upgrade to keep on making money...

Isn't there a method to use OpenGL to assist HD decoding?

On 23/04/2008, Pasi Kärkkäinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 09:56:23AM +0400, Igor wrote:
The question is: Which of them will offer decent open source drivers
 for
HD decoding, and when?
  
   I wonder if every vendor pushes his own API for using these decoding
   accelerators? Or is there some standard (It's surely beyond XvMC)?
 
  there's VAAPI - Video Decode Acceleration API Specification
  http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/vaapi
 
  but seems it hasn't finished yet :(
 


 And then there's some XvMC for H.264/AVC work/patches:

 http://people.freedesktop.org/~zhen/xds2007_xvmc.pdf

 http://www.x.org/wiki/Events/XDS2007/Notes (link taken from here)


 -- Pasi


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Re: [vdr] No frontend on VP-2040

2008-04-23 Thread Arthur Konovalov
Peter Fassberg wrote:
 Hej!
 
 Vad har du för roligt projekt på gång som behöver 6 st kort? :-)
 
 Jag har planerat ett streamingprojekt men jag får tyvärr aldrig
 någon tid över till att komma igång.
 

Sorry, we usually don't understand here in list på svenska :)

Arthur


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Re: [vdr] new graphics processor from VIA S3 for HD video

2008-04-23 Thread Martin Emrich
Hi!

Theunis Potgieter schrieb:

 So it appears there is no hope for my old machine with an AGP port, and
 nvidia G-Force 4 MMX 440. 

I sit in a similar board (GF3 / GF2MX).

 Looks like I will have to upgrade, but the craze
 will have to settle first before I buy anything. I wonder why they don't
 create add-on cards in PCI format? so that it will work on older machines? I
 guess they want you to upgrade to keep on making money...

I don't think a simple PCI card can handle the bandwidth. Think Full-HD
PAL Video:

1920*1080*3 Byte/Pixel (RGB) * 25 FPS = 148MiB/s uncompressed RGB Data
(For performance reasons one probably would even use 32bit/Pixel). The
classic PCI Bus only does 133MB/s.

 Isn't there a method to use OpenGL to assist HD decoding?

AFAIK most of the current accelerators (AMD AVIVO, nVidia PureVideo,...)
use the programmable shaders for decoding, scaling, colorspace
translation, etc.
Most of the newer AMD/ATI cards seem not to have a traditional backend
scaler anymore (making it hard for opensource driver devs to implement
XVideo as they now have to touch the 3D engine).

Ciao

Martin

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Re: [vdr] new graphics processor from VIA S3 for HD video

2008-04-23 Thread Martin Emrich
Hi!

Igor schrieb:

 there's VAAPI - Video Decode Acceleration API Specification
 http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/vaapi
 
 but seems it hasn't finished yet :(

But the Idea sounds quite nice... I dream of a VDR box with an S3
graphics card, decoding full HD DVB-S2 with only free software at low
power consumption ;-)

Ciao

Martin

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Re: [vdr] new graphics processor from VIA S3 for HD video

2008-04-23 Thread Theunis Potgieter
So in an ideal world, it would be great to have a pci add-on card, that does
not only do assisting, but actually does all the features, so by sending the
compressed stream directly to board, and it does all the un-compressing and
uses its own internal memory (on board memory) to do movement of
uncompressed streams and doing additional post processing on the picture.
Similar to a FF-card but independent of DVB and can do *High 10 Profile
(Hi10P)*.

I know it is a pipe dream. So in a perfect world it would be nice to have
something like the following: pci board with a sigma 8635 chip for decoding
(o rsomething similar) and a S3 chip for post processing (or something
similar) onto one board with a s-video out, HDMI out, spdif out/audio out.
And can do 1920x1080 progressive scan PAL @ 25 or even 50 frames per second.
So that we can be ready for when BluRay hits the market (affordable). the
output can either be by using a X driver or frame buffer driver. Oh well the
wish list goes on :)

So the end user can then upgrade the output device when he/she can afford an
upgrade to a HD output device and of course don't forget all have Open
Source drivers hehe. Tomorrow I will wake up and realise the truth of it
all...

To the future of open source!

On 23/04/2008, Martin Emrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi!

 Theunis Potgieter schrieb:


  So it appears there is no hope for my old machine with an AGP port, and
  nvidia G-Force 4 MMX 440.


 I sit in a similar board (GF3 / GF2MX).


  Looks like I will have to upgrade, but the craze
  will have to settle first before I buy anything. I wonder why they don't
  create add-on cards in PCI format? so that it will work on older
 machines? I
  guess they want you to upgrade to keep on making money...


 I don't think a simple PCI card can handle the bandwidth. Think Full-HD
 PAL Video:

 1920*1080*3 Byte/Pixel (RGB) * 25 FPS = 148MiB/s uncompressed RGB Data
 (For performance reasons one probably would even use 32bit/Pixel). The
 classic PCI Bus only does 133MB/s.


  Isn't there a method to use OpenGL to assist HD decoding?


 AFAIK most of the current accelerators (AMD AVIVO, nVidia PureVideo,...)
 use the programmable shaders for decoding, scaling, colorspace
 translation, etc.
 Most of the newer AMD/ATI cards seem not to have a traditional backend
 scaler anymore (making it hard for opensource driver devs to implement
 XVideo as they now have to touch the 3D engine).

 Ciao


 Martin


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[vdr] Multiproto with 1.4-1.6

2008-04-23 Thread Lauri Tischler
Does VDR 1.4 - 1.6 work with multiproto drivers ?


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[vdr] Upgrading from 1.4.7 to 1.7.0 : (part1 vdr 1.7.0)

2008-04-23 Thread Pierre-Yves Paranthoen (PERSO)
2  parts for reply as my posted was rejected due to volume of datas 


 Please provide more data - everything until you switch to

 an encrypted channel.



 Klaus


 
the DumpTPDUDataTransfer and DebugProtocol switches really give so few
information while running 1.7.0 and zapping between channels. Here are some
more informations while zapping and also trying to access the cam
over the OSD (menu  resetting) :
1.7.0 debugging :
1/ syslog :

Apr 23 07:37:26 localhost vdr: [6948] probing /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0
Apr 23 07:37:26 localhost vdr: [6952] CI adapter on device 0 thread started
(pid=6948, tid=6952)
Apr 23 07:37:26 localhost vdr: [6948] device 1 provides: DVBS
Apr 23 07:37:26 localhost vdr: [6948] found 1 video device
...
Apr 23 07:38:09 localhost vdr: [6948] switching to channel 1
Apr 23 07:38:09 localhost vdr: [6948] info: Channel not available!
Apr 23 07:38:20 localhost vdr: [6948] switching to channel 2
Apr 23 07:38:20 localhost vdr: [6948] info: Channel not available!
Apr 23 07:38:31 localhost vdr: [6948] switching to channel 3
Apr 23 07:38:31 localhost vdr: [6948] info: Channel not available!
...
Apr 23 07:48:22 localhost vdr: [6948] ERROR: Can't open CAM menu!
Apr 23 07:48:33 localhost vdr: [6952] CAM 2: module present
Apr 23 07:48:37 localhost vdr: [6952] CAM 2: module ready

 
2/ ci.c : (no more info)

Slot 1: reset...ok.
Slot 2: reset...ok.
Slot 1: no module present
Slot 2: module ready
Slot 2: creating connection 1/1
Slot 2: create connection 1/1
 2: -- 01 01 82 01 01
 2: -- 01 01 83 01 01 80 02 01 00
.  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
Slot 2: connection created 1/1
Slot 2: receive data 1/1
 2: -- 01 01 81 01 01
 2: -- 01 01 A0 07 01 91 04 00 01 00 41 80 02 01 00
.  . .  .  .  .  .  .  .  A  .  .  .  .
Slot 2: open session 00010041
Slot 2: new Resource Manager (session id 1)
 2: -- 01 01 A0 0A 01 92 07 00 00 01 00 41 00 01
Slot 2: == Profile Enq (1)
 2: -- 01 01 A0 09 01 90 02 00 01 9F 80 10 00
Slot 2: reset...ok.
 
3/ pse also find attached a strace dumping while running 1.7.0
 
 
 
 
1.4.7 debuging :
 
1/ syslog :
Apr 23 07:58:18 localhost vdr: [7127] CAM: Aston Module 1.0300, 01, 0100,
0100
 
2/ ci.c :
Resetting slot 0...ok.
Resetting slot 1...ok.
Module ready in slot 1
Creating connection: slot 1, tcid 1
 4 -- 01 01 82 01 01
 4 -- 01 01 83 01 01 80 02 01 00
   .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
 4 -- 01 01 A0 01 01
 4 -- 01 01 80 02 01 80
   .  .  .  .  .  .
 4 -- 01 01 81 01 01
 4 -- 01 01 A0 07 01 91 04 00 01 00 41 80 02 01 00
   .  . .  .  .  .  .  .  .  A  .  .  .  .
OpenSession 00010041
New Resource Manager (session id 1)
 4 -- 01 01 A0 0A 01 92 07 00 00 01 00 41 00 01
 4 -- 01 01 80 02 01 00
   .  .  .  .  .  .
1: == Profile Enq
 4 -- 01 01 A0 09 01 90 02 00 01 9F 80 10 00
 4 -- 01 01 80 02 01 00
   .  .  .  .  .  .
 4 -- 01 01 A0 01 01
 4 -- 01 01 80 02 01 80
   .  .  .  .  .  .
 4 -- 01 01 81 01 01
 4 -- 01 01 A0 09 01 90 02 00 01 9F 80 11 00 80 02 01 00
   .  . .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
1: == Profile
1: == Profile Change
 4 -- 01 01 A0 09 01 90 02 00 01 9F 80 12 00
 4 -- 01 01 80 02 01 00
   .  .  .  .  .  .
 4 -- 01 01 A0 01 01
 4 -- 01 01 80 02 01 80
   .  .  .  .  .  .
 4 -- 01 01 81 01 01
 4 -- 01 01 A0 09 01 90 02 00 01 9F 80 10 00 80 02 01 00
   .  . .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
1: == Profile Enquiry
1: == Profile
 4 -- 01 01 A0 1D 01 90 02 00 01 9F 80 11 14 00 01 00 41 00 02 00 41 00 03
00 41 00 24 00 41 00 40 00 41
 4 -- 01 01 80 02 01 00
   .  .  .  .  .  .
 4 -- 01 01 A0 01 01
 4 -- 01 01 80 02 01 80
   .  .  .  .  .  .
 4 -- 01 01 81 01 01
 4 -- 01 01 A0 07 01 91 04 00 02 00 41 80 02 01 00
   .  . .  .  .  .  .  .  .  A  .  .  .  .
OpenSession 00020041
New Application Information (session id 2)
 4 -- 01 01 A0 0A 01 92 07 00 00 02 00 41 00 02
 4 -- 01 01 80 02 01 00
   .  .  .  .  .  .
2: == Application Info Enq
 4 -- 01 01 A0 09 01 90 02 00 02 9F 80 20 00
 4 -- 01 01 80 02 01 00
 4 -- 01 01 A0 01 01
 4 -- 01 01 80 02 01 00
   .  .  .  .  .  .
 4 -- 01 01 A0 01 01
 4 -- 01 01 80 02 01 80
   .  .  .  .  .  .
 4 -- 01 01 81 01 01
 4 -- 01 01 A0 22 01 90 02 00 02 9F 80 21 19 01 01 00 01 00 13 41 73 74 6F
6E 20 4D 6F 64 75 6C 65 20 31 2E 30 33 30 30 80 02 01 80
   .  .   .  .  .  .  .  .  .  !  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  A  s  t  o
n M  o  d  u  l  e 1  .  0  3  0  0  .  .  .  .
2: == Application Info
 4 -- 01 01 81 01 01
 4 -- 01 01 A0 07 01 91 04 00 03 00 41 80 02 01 00
   .  . .  .  .  .  .  .  .  A  .  .  .  .
OpenSession 00030041
New Conditional Access Support (session id 3)
 4 -- 01 01 A0 0A 01 92 07 00 00 03 00 41 00 03
 4 -- 01 01 80 02 01 00
   .  .  .  .  .  .
3: == Ca Info Enq
 4 -- 01 01 A0 09 01 90 02 00 03 9F 80 30 00
 4 -- 01 01 80 02 01 00
   .  .  .  .  .  .
 4 -- 01 01 A0 01 01
 4 -- 01 01 80 02 01 00
   .  .  .  .  .  .
 4 -- 01 01 A0 01 01
 4 -- 01 01 80 02 01 80
   .  .  .  

Re: [vdr] Multiproto with 1.4-1.6

2008-04-23 Thread Igor

yes, with the dvb-s2 and h264 patches from Reinchard Nissl

 Does VDR 1.4 - 1.6 work with multiproto drivers ?
 
Igor
 

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[vdr] Upgrading from 1.4.7 to 1.7.0 (strace vdr 1.7.0)

2008-04-23 Thread Pierre-Yves Paranthoen (PERSO)
strace for vdr-1.7.0 :
http://pagesperso-orange.fr/ebox-vdr/vdr-debug/strace.1-7-0.debug
 
 
regards
 
Pierre
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Re: [vdr] No ac3 audio on Nexus

2008-04-23 Thread Timothy D. Lenz
Yes it's a Nexus and yes I'm using the back connector from the card. I also 
tried the jack on the motherboard incase it was some how sending it there. I 
don't have any other audio software loaded so it should be just going to the 
nexus.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Pierre-Yves Paranthoen (PERSO) 
  To: vdr@linuxtv.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 11:16 PM
  Subject: [vdr] No ac3 audio on Nexus


  Do you use WinTV Nexus DVB-S from Hauppauge ? If yes, do you use the black 
coaxial digital output of the dvb-s card or the coax/spdif output of your 
mother card ?


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Re: [vdr] iptv FILE .ts stalling not switching streams

2008-04-23 Thread Simon Baxter
Is this a more generic channels.conf problem??

 RE: selecting different streams with a FILE .ts - this still doesn't work
 FileTest;IPTV:5:IPTV|S0P1|FILE|/video/vdr/testfile.ts|5:P:0:35+514:34:2321:0:3:0:0:0
 CH1;T:5:IPTV|S0P1|FILE|/video/vdr/testfile.ts|5:P:0:0:0:0:0:101:182:1:0
 CH2;T:5:IPTV|S0P1|FILE|/video/vdr/testfile.ts|5:P:0:0:0:0:0:102:182:1:0
 CH3;T:5:IPTV|S0P1|FILE|/video/vdr/testfile.ts|5:P:0:0:0:0:0:103:182:1:0

 This still doesn't work properly.  Although the PID scan picks up the
 streams in the TS, PIDs aren't set and selecting any channel only shows 
 the
 first one??


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Re: [vdr] iptv FILE .ts stalling not switching streams

2008-04-23 Thread Antti Seppälä
Simon Baxter wrote:
 Is this a more generic channels.conf problem??
 

Hi Simon.

We'll look into this once we get a chance. It may very well be that file
input of iptv plugin is currently broken. File input was implemented
only as a testing/debugging feature of iptv plugin and thus it is not as
thoroughly tested.

Could you possibly send us (privately) a sample of the file that is
causing you problems? That way we could better investigate the issues
you are experiencing.

I'd also like to know what is the use case that requires you to input a
static .ts file into vdr via iptv plugin?

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Re: [vdr] Multiproto with 1.4-1.6

2008-04-23 Thread Udo Richter
Lauri Tischler wrote:
 Does VDR 1.4 - 1.6 work with multiproto drivers ?

The multiproto drivers are fully backwards compatible, all programs 
based on the old API work as before. However, the additional features 
like DVB-S2 are of course limited to multiproto-aware software like VDR 
1.7 or VDR 1.5/1.6 with patches.

Cheers,

Udo

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