[vdr] Channel dropout unless femon active

2013-08-24 Thread Richard Scobie
Perhaps a little off topic, but I wonder if anyone can shed any light on 
the following.


I am viewing a signal that is very close to reception threshold - dish a 
little small, STR value 65%, SNR value 67%, but BER and UNC errors as 
reported by femon are zero.


As long as I leave the femon plugin active on screen, I can view it 
uninterrupted. If I turn it off, within 60 seconds, the picture will 
disappear until I activate femon again.


Initally it will only show "SIGNAL" and "CARRIER" indicators active, 
then after a short period, everything will lock again and the channel 
will re-appear.


I am running the latest vdr version with a TT 6400 S2 full feature card, 
with latest drivers and firmware. Relevent drivers would be perhaps 
stv090x or stv6110x.


Channel parameters DVB-S2, symbol rate 15000 FEC 3/5  QPSK Video 35Mb 
MPEG2 1920 x 1080, Audio MPEG 270Mb


Regards,

Richard

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Re: [vdr] Channel dropout unless femon active

2013-08-25 Thread Klaus Schmidinger

On 25.08.2013 05:32, Richard Scobie wrote:

Perhaps a little off topic, but I wonder if anyone can shed any light on the 
following.

I am viewing a signal that is very close to reception threshold - dish a little 
small, STR value 65%, SNR value 67%, but BER and UNC errors as reported by 
femon are zero.

As long as I leave the femon plugin active on screen, I can view it 
uninterrupted. If I turn it off, within 60 seconds, the picture will disappear 
until I activate femon again.

Initally it will only show "SIGNAL" and "CARRIER" indicators active, then after 
a short period, everything will lock again and the channel will re-appear.

I am running the latest vdr version with a TT 6400 S2 full feature card, with 
latest drivers and firmware. Relevent drivers would be perhaps stv090x or 
stv6110x.

Channel parameters DVB-S2, symbol rate 15000 FEC 3/5  QPSK Video 35Mb MPEG2 
1920 x 1080, Audio MPEG 270Mb


Do you have both inputs of the TT-S2 6400 connected to satellite cables?
And is there actually a signal on both of them?

Klaus

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Re: [vdr] Channel dropout unless femon active

2013-08-25 Thread Richard Scobie



Klaus Schmidinger wrote:

On 25.08.2013 05:32, Richard Scobie wrote:

Perhaps a little off topic, but I wonder if anyone can shed any light
on the following.

I am viewing a signal that is very close to reception threshold - dish
a little small, STR value 65%, SNR value 67%, but BER and UNC errors
as reported by femon are zero.

As long as I leave the femon plugin active on screen, I can view it
uninterrupted. If I turn it off, within 60 seconds, the picture will
disappear until I activate femon again.

Initally it will only show "SIGNAL" and "CARRIER" indicators active,
then after a short period, everything will lock again and the channel
will re-appear.

I am running the latest vdr version with a TT 6400 S2 full feature
card, with latest drivers and firmware. Relevent drivers would be
perhaps stv090x or stv6110x.

Channel parameters DVB-S2, symbol rate 15000 FEC 3/5  QPSK Video 35Mb
MPEG2 1920 x 1080, Audio MPEG 270Mb


Do you have both inputs of the TT-S2 6400 connected to satellite cables?
And is there actually a signal on both of them?


Hi Klaus,

I have three dishes with dual LNB's, with each LNB output going to two 
4x1 diseq switches, feeding each tuner, so both tuners have the same 
signals available.


As two whether the other tuner always has a signal present, I cannot say 
for sure as my channel list has quite a number of itinerant feed 
channels loaded, which are not always active, so vdr may well be 
scanning  across empty channels on the second tuner.


Indeed, this channel I am having trouble with is one of those - a feed 
from a motor sport event and is only there on certain weekends.


My somewhat uninformed thought was that perhaps femon's constant polling 
for front end values was somehow causing a marginal PLL to re-lock, vs 
the no femon situation where it looses lock on the weak signal and does 
not reaquire it.


Regards,

Richard

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Re: [vdr] Channel dropout unless femon active

2013-08-26 Thread Klaus Schmidinger

On 25.08.2013 21:31, Richard Scobie wrote:



Klaus Schmidinger wrote:

On 25.08.2013 05:32, Richard Scobie wrote:

Perhaps a little off topic, but I wonder if anyone can shed any light
on the following.

I am viewing a signal that is very close to reception threshold - dish
a little small, STR value 65%, SNR value 67%, but BER and UNC errors
as reported by femon are zero.

As long as I leave the femon plugin active on screen, I can view it
uninterrupted. If I turn it off, within 60 seconds, the picture will
disappear until I activate femon again.

Initally it will only show "SIGNAL" and "CARRIER" indicators active,
then after a short period, everything will lock again and the channel
will re-appear.

I am running the latest vdr version with a TT 6400 S2 full feature
card, with latest drivers and firmware. Relevent drivers would be
perhaps stv090x or stv6110x.

Channel parameters DVB-S2, symbol rate 15000 FEC 3/5  QPSK Video 35Mb
MPEG2 1920 x 1080, Audio MPEG 270Mb


Do you have both inputs of the TT-S2 6400 connected to satellite cables?
And is there actually a signal on both of them?


Hi Klaus,

I have three dishes with dual LNB's, with each LNB output going to two 4x1 
diseq switches, feeding each tuner, so both tuners have the same signals 
available.

As two whether the other tuner always has a signal present, I cannot say for 
sure as my channel list has quite a number of itinerant feed channels loaded, 
which are not always active, so vdr may well be scanning  across empty channels 
on the second tuner.

Indeed, this channel I am having trouble with is one of those - a feed from a 
motor sport event and is only there on certain weekends.

My somewhat uninformed thought was that perhaps femon's constant polling for 
front end values was somehow causing a marginal PLL to re-lock, vs the no femon 
situation where it looses lock on the weak signal and does not reaquire it.


Well, VDR also constantly polls the frontend to see whether it is still locked.

I'm afraid I'm out of ideas then...

Klaus

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Re: [vdr] Channel dropout unless femon active

2013-08-26 Thread Richard Scobie



Klaus Schmidinger wrote:

On 25.08.2013 21:31, Richard Scobie wrote:



Klaus Schmidinger wrote:

On 25.08.2013 05:32, Richard Scobie wrote:

Perhaps a little off topic, but I wonder if anyone can shed any light
on the following.

I am viewing a signal that is very close to reception threshold - dish
a little small, STR value 65%, SNR value 67%, but BER and UNC errors
as reported by femon are zero.

As long as I leave the femon plugin active on screen, I can view it
uninterrupted. If I turn it off, within 60 seconds, the picture will
disappear until I activate femon again.

Initally it will only show "SIGNAL" and "CARRIER" indicators active,
then after a short period, everything will lock again and the channel
will re-appear.

I am running the latest vdr version with a TT 6400 S2 full feature
card, with latest drivers and firmware. Relevent drivers would be
perhaps stv090x or stv6110x.

Channel parameters DVB-S2, symbol rate 15000 FEC 3/5  QPSK Video 35Mb
MPEG2 1920 x 1080, Audio MPEG 270Mb


Do you have both inputs of the TT-S2 6400 connected to satellite cables?
And is there actually a signal on both of them?


Hi Klaus,

I have three dishes with dual LNB's, with each LNB output going to two
4x1 diseq switches, feeding each tuner, so both tuners have the same
signals available.

As two whether the other tuner always has a signal present, I cannot
say for sure as my channel list has quite a number of itinerant feed
channels loaded, which are not always active, so vdr may well be
scanning  across empty channels on the second tuner.

Indeed, this channel I am having trouble with is one of those - a feed
from a motor sport event and is only there on certain weekends.

My somewhat uninformed thought was that perhaps femon's constant
polling for front end values was somehow causing a marginal PLL to
re-lock, vs the no femon situation where it looses lock on the weak
signal and does not reaquire it.


Well, VDR also constantly polls the frontend to see whether it is still
locked.

I'm afraid I'm out of ideas then...


Hi Klaus,

No problem, thanks for taking the time to reply anyway.

Regards,

Richard

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