Re: [vdr] no channel update on vdr 1.7.0
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > On 05/22/08 21:22, Brian wrote: >> ... >> Will the TS mods that Klaus is currently working on mean that the full >> stream of >> the transponder can be recorded? Or will the HW full-TS mod still be needed? > > The PES to TS switch will only change the way VDR records broadcasts > and performs live viewing. There will be no more TS to PES conversion. > VDR will still record separate programmes, though. It won't record the > entire TS. > > Klaus > > ___ > vdr mailing list > vdr@linuxtv.org > http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr > Klaus thanks. I know the BBC was pissing about with recording the complete TS, but IIRC then you need a "LOT" of disk space for that. Cheers Brian ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] no channel update on vdr 1.7.0
On 05/22/08 21:22, Brian wrote: > ... > Will the TS mods that Klaus is currently working on mean that the full stream > of > the transponder can be recorded? Or will the HW full-TS mod still be needed? The PES to TS switch will only change the way VDR records broadcasts and performs live viewing. There will be no more TS to PES conversion. VDR will still record separate programmes, though. It won't record the entire TS. Klaus ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] no channel update on vdr 1.7.0
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Thanks for all the answers regarding my questions. > > So far I can understand my hardware is not adapted to what I want to do. > I will proceed to the following : > > - Install 2 twin lnb's > - Install 2 disecq switches. > - Is diseqc switch 1 ok ? or do i need diseqc 2.0 > > As explain I have 1 FF card and one S2-3200. On one of my dishes I also > have a rotor. > > - Can I still use it ? Is there already a valid rotor plugin for 1.7.0 ? > > My target is to achieve to be able to look on one TV on the output of the > FF card, and on a other TV on a other broadcasting on a vdr-to-vdr client. > I assume thats possible with that configuration ? > > Can I record a third broadcasting ? (concurrent recording) > Can I look at a third broadcasting on a second vdr-to-vdr or http client ? > > Even if I don't need HD, do I need to use 1.7.0 version with my S2-3200 ? > > thanks, > > sp > > > ___ > vdr mailing list > vdr@linuxtv.org > http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr > In the end, if you dont use the LNB Sharing patch (I think it was), the solution from the VDR point of view is very simple. I hope I get this correct. To watch or record 2 programs, on two different transponders, you need two tuners and therefore 2 input lines. Same for 3,4,5 and 6 programs etc. etc. You just need to ensure, outside of VDR, that each line (coax) going to VDR can transport every transponder, and that at the same time. If, two or more programs are on the same transponder, then a single tuner can see them all. I think a FF card can "process" 3 streams on the same transponder without problems. I don't know if "process" differentiates between live-viewing and recording a program. I think the nettlebock (bottleneck) is on the PCI bus. "Third broadcasting" will therefore depend on whether that channel is on one of the transponders you are already tuned to with your two cards. Will the TS mods that Klaus is currently working on mean that the full stream of the transponder can be recorded? Or will the HW full-TS mod still be needed? Cheers Brian ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] no channel update on vdr 1.7.0
C.Scheeder wrote: > Brian schrieb: >> C.Scheeder wrote: >>> Igor schrieb: >> I had a 1.5.13 running for a while on a nexus FF. >> >> I did install a second card, S2-3200, together with the multiproto driver >> and vdr 1.7.0, without patches at this moment, because I am not >> interested >> in HD at this time. I am just looking to have 2 cards working to be able >> to stream on several vdr clients and use the output of my FF card. The S2 >> card is on astra, and the FF on hotbird >> >> I started with a clean vdrconf directory, and with a channel.conf with >> only 1 entry (TV5) on hotbird. I hoped that vdr would scan new channels, >> but it did only for a few. >> >> After starting the first time, it scanned about 10 new channels and stops >> there. In the DVB menu, update stands on add new transponder >> >> I did try with an other channel.conf. I can see every FTA channel on >> hotbird, but I have a black screen on astra (nothing as channel not >> available ). >> >> The log does nt learn me something either. In fact the log is flooded by >> kernel messages about stb6100 that get_frequence and bandwith. The >> frequence are always the same. >> -why is the autoscan not working ? Do I need some transponder file ? >> >> -how can I check the signal on my S2-3200 card ? >> >> -how can I reduce the logs from stb6100 ? >> >> -do I need to apply a concurrent recording patch to be able to stream 2 >> or >> more signals ? >> >> thanks for your help >> > Errm, > you say you have two FF-Cards, one connected to an LNB poniting hotbird > and one connected to another LNB pointing to Astra? > AFAIk this will NOT work. > if vdr has 2 cards, it only uses the second card to do channel-scan, but why vdr chose the second card, not the first one ? and this vdr's behaviour only for scan ? Igor >>> Hrm, >>> i could say RTFM, but that would be a little rude ;-) >>> so lets explain it in short: >>> per design vdr reserves the first card in system for life viewing and does >>> not use it for other >>> so called "idle" tasks like epg-scann or transponder-scann if there is a >>> second card in the system. >>> thats by design, and it is written down the documentation. >>> >>> And when it comes to viewing a transponder, vdr uses the first card to get >>> the signal if that tuner >>> is available. >>> so in your configuration you will only be able to watch the channels on >>> hotbird, but you only can >>> scan on astra with plain vdr >>> Nice situation... ;-) >>> Christoph >>> >>> ___ >>> vdr mailing list >>> vdr@linuxtv.org >>> http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr >>> >> Aaah Bloody Germans >> >> >> per design vdr reserves the first card in system for life viewing and >> does not use it for other >> >> "live" viewing. >> >> Its a mistake that is made absolutely everywhere, especially in the press, >> who >> should really know better. I'm absolutely astounded about how many Germans >> (I live in Germany), >> are nearly perfect with their English but make this mistake. But we see it >> in "Clever Modern" >> advertising all the time now. >> >> "the length of someone's life" >> "The concert was shown live in TV" >> "I live in my house", etc. >> >> There's certainly no system in things like those in the English language. >> >> >> Sorry, just a pet rant of mine. >> >> Cheers Brian > > Blody fucking bastard of a keyboard ;-) > just hit the wrong key, i know i can't type blind, but sometimes i do it > simply, > and then such typo's are the result. > have a niece day > Christoph > > ___ > vdr mailing list > vdr@linuxtv.org > http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr > So... I can type really really fast, just have a problem hitting the correct keys MfG ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] no channel update on vdr 1.7.0
Brian wrote: > Aaah Bloody Germans > > >> per design vdr reserves the first card in system for life viewing and > does not use it for other > > "live" viewing. > > Its a mistake that is made absolutely everywhere, especially in the press, who > should really know better. I'm absolutely astounded about how many Germans (I > live in Germany), > are nearly perfect with their English but make this mistake. But we see it in > "Clever Modern" > advertising all the time now. > > "the length of someone's life" > "The concert was shown live in TV" > "I live in my house", etc. > > There's certainly no system in things like those in the English language. fun like this will keep you alive - or was it alife :-))) > Sorry, just a pet rant of mine. sorry couldn't resist ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] no channel update on vdr 1.7.0
Mattia Rossi wrote: > On Wed, 21 May 2008 17:01:22 +0300 > Lauri Tischler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Mattia Rossi wrote: >>> On Wed, 21 May 2008 16:57:33 +0400 >>> Igor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> --- snip - could you explain please how it's possible to connect 3 cards in VDR to 3 LNB's for Hotbird, Sirius, Astra for example with DiSEq-Cswitch >>> Hmm, using this switch ? >>> http://www.spaun.de/?lang=en&modul=products&product=842379&productname=SBK9935NF >> Good God NO, just a simple 4 input diseqc-switch, one for >> each card, price something like 10-30€ each >> > > Well, he didn't ask for the cheapest solution, he only asked how it > could be done ;) > > By the way, the multiple diseqc switch is ok if the > number of dvb terminals is less than 4, for 4 terminal or more the > multiswitch solution (it hasn't to be spaun) becomes quickly more > convenient in terms of complexity and, eventually, costs > > If you also need to mix terrestrial signal to the lot, then it > becomes even more desirable. > > ... but we are digressing :) if he has never heard of diseqc maybe some basics would be good http://www.spaun.de/files/8df79_en_DiSEqC_for_Technicians.pdf http://www.spaun.de/?lang=en&modul=adigs with diseqc you can address a single lnb among a limited number of lnb´s from the "electrical" point there are two ways lets say 2 sat´s and 4 receivers 1. using a lnb with 4 equivalent outputs for every satelite (you could connect a receiver to those outputs and will get all four options high, low, horizontal, vertical on every output, the receiver switches the to its 4 options, same es having 4 single lnb´s) so you would need 4 single passive diseqc switches, one for every receiver shown here: http://www.spaun.de/files/ba406_de_ske11s133.pdf 2. using lnb´s with 4 different outputs (each for h, l, hor., ver., if you connect a receiver you will only have one option at every connector, thats the difference between quad and quattro lnb´s) 2 of those with a multiswitch (input for every option for every sat) you can multiplie all 8 signals (the lnb´s don't have to be "switched" with voltage or tone to a option) and deliver on the 4 receiver outputs whats needed - this installation alway needs external power from 110/220V, usually used for 4 or more receivers in the situation with 4 sat´s and 2-4 receivers the scenario 1. will usually cheaper ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] no channel update on vdr 1.7.0
On Thursday 22 of May 2008, C.Scheeder wrote: > Brian schrieb: > Hi, > there are two versions of lnb's with 4 outputs sold, > one with 4 identical outputs to feed 4 seperate receivers, (or diseq-c > switches) This is labeled QUAD, is a little more expansive > and one with outputs for hi/V lo/V hi/H and Lo/H ment to feed > multiswitches. (like the spaun meintioned in another answer...) This is labeled QUATTRO, is a little cheaper > so beware which version you by, the purpose is always written down on the > box. Christoph > > ___ > vdr mailing list > vdr@linuxtv.org > http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr BR, Ales ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] no channel update on vdr 1.7.0
Brian schrieb: > C.Scheeder wrote: >> Igor schrieb: > I had a 1.5.13 running for a while on a nexus FF. > > I did install a second card, S2-3200, together with the multiproto driver > and vdr 1.7.0, without patches at this moment, because I am not interested > in HD at this time. I am just looking to have 2 cards working to be able > to stream on several vdr clients and use the output of my FF card. The S2 > card is on astra, and the FF on hotbird > > I started with a clean vdrconf directory, and with a channel.conf with > only 1 entry (TV5) on hotbird. I hoped that vdr would scan new channels, > but it did only for a few. > > After starting the first time, it scanned about 10 new channels and stops > there. In the DVB menu, update stands on add new transponder > > I did try with an other channel.conf. I can see every FTA channel on > hotbird, but I have a black screen on astra (nothing as channel not > available ). > > The log does nt learn me something either. In fact the log is flooded by > kernel messages about stb6100 that get_frequence and bandwith. The > frequence are always the same. > -why is the autoscan not working ? Do I need some transponder file ? > > -how can I check the signal on my S2-3200 card ? > > -how can I reduce the logs from stb6100 ? > > -do I need to apply a concurrent recording patch to be able to stream 2 or > more signals ? > > thanks for your help > Errm, you say you have two FF-Cards, one connected to an LNB poniting hotbird and one connected to another LNB pointing to Astra? AFAIk this will NOT work. if vdr has 2 cards, it only uses the second card to do channel-scan, >>> but why vdr chose the second card, not the first one ? >>> and this vdr's behaviour only for scan ? >>> >>> Igor >> Hrm, >> i could say RTFM, but that would be a little rude ;-) >> so lets explain it in short: >> per design vdr reserves the first card in system for life viewing and does >> not use it for other >> so called "idle" tasks like epg-scann or transponder-scann if there is a >> second card in the system. >> thats by design, and it is written down the documentation. >> >> And when it comes to viewing a transponder, vdr uses the first card to get >> the signal if that tuner >> is available. >> so in your configuration you will only be able to watch the channels on >> hotbird, but you only can >> scan on astra with plain vdr >> Nice situation... ;-) >> Christoph >> >> ___ >> vdr mailing list >> vdr@linuxtv.org >> http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr >> > > Aaah Bloody Germans > > >> per design vdr reserves the first card in system for life viewing and > does not use it for other > > "live" viewing. > > Its a mistake that is made absolutely everywhere, especially in the press, who > should really know better. I'm absolutely astounded about how many Germans (I > live in Germany), > are nearly perfect with their English but make this mistake. But we see it in > "Clever Modern" > advertising all the time now. > > "the length of someone's life" > "The concert was shown live in TV" > "I live in my house", etc. > > There's certainly no system in things like those in the English language. > > > Sorry, just a pet rant of mine. > > Cheers Brian Blody fucking bastard of a keyboard ;-) just hit the wrong key, i know i can't type blind, but sometimes i do it simply, and then such typo's are the result. have a niece day Christoph ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] no channel update on vdr 1.7.0
Brian schrieb: > Lauri Tischler wrote: >> Igor wrote: >> >>> could you explain please how it's possible to connect 3 cards in VDR to 3 >>> LNB's for Hotbird, Sirius, Astra for example >>> with DiSEq-Cswitch >> Simple diagram, using quad-lnb's, input of lnbs are called as >> HB-1, HB-2, HB-3, HB-4 >> SI-1, SI-2, S1-3, SI-4 >> AS-1, AS-2, AS-3, AS-4 >> >>Diseqc-switch 1 >> ++ >> ||--- HB-1 >> Card1 -||--- SI-1 >> ||--- AS-1 >> ||--- free >> ++ >> >>Diseqc-switch 2 >> ++ >> ||--- HB-2 >> Card2 -||--- SI-2 >> ||--- AS-2 >> ||--- free >> ++ >> >>Diseqc-switch 3 >> ++ >> ||--- HB-3 >> Card3 -||--- SI-3 >> ||--- AS-3 >> ||--- free >> ++ >> >> ___ >> vdr mailing list >> vdr@linuxtv.org >> http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr >> > Hi, does that really work, or am I misunderstanding a quad-LNB? I though the > the 4 outputs of a quad LNB are > hi/V lo/V hi/H and Lo/H. Or is that a quattro LNB? > So what you are saying is that a quad LNB can supply any of the 4 > "freqs/polarization" down any of its 4 connections? > Any if required the same signal down all 4 connections? > > This solution is certainly a lot cheaper because otherwise he would need 12 > input lines, so the spaun would not have > worked as it only had 8 Sat input lines. So he would have needed a more > expensive model. > > Cheers Brian > > ___ > vdr mailing list > vdr@linuxtv.org > http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr Hi, there are two versions of lnb's with 4 outputs sold, one with 4 identical outputs to feed 4 seperate receivers, (or diseq-c switches) and one with outputs for hi/V lo/V hi/H and Lo/H ment to feed multiswitches. (like the spaun meintioned in another answer...) so beware which version you by, the purpose is always written down on the box. Christoph ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] no channel update on vdr 1.7.0
Brian wrote: > Lauri Tischler wrote: >> Igor wrote: >> >>> could you explain please how it's possible to connect 3 cards in VDR to 3 >>> LNB's for Hotbird, Sirius, Astra for example >>> with DiSEq-Cswitch >> Simple diagram, using quad-lnb's, input of lnbs are called as >> HB-1, HB-2, HB-3, HB-4 >> SI-1, SI-2, S1-3, SI-4 >> AS-1, AS-2, AS-3, AS-4 >> >>Diseqc-switch 1 >> ++ >> ||--- HB-1 >> Card1 -||--- SI-1 >> ||--- AS-1 >> ||--- free >> ++ >> >>Diseqc-switch 2 >> ++ >> ||--- HB-2 >> Card2 -||--- SI-2 >> ||--- AS-2 >> ||--- free >> ++ >> >>Diseqc-switch 3 >> ++ >> ||--- HB-3 >> Card3 -||--- SI-3 >> ||--- AS-3 >> ||--- free >> ++ >> >> ___ >> vdr mailing list >> vdr@linuxtv.org >> http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr >> > Hi, does that really work, or am I misunderstanding a quad-LNB? I though the > the 4 outputs of a quad LNB are > hi/V lo/V hi/H and Lo/H. Or is that a quattro LNB? > So what you are saying is that a quad LNB can supply any of the 4 > "freqs/polarization" down any of its 4 connections? > Any if required the same signal down all 4 connections? Should work, because twin or quad or octal lnbs actually have multiple tuners inside the lnb. Typically twin, quad or octal lnbs are used when there are several settopboxes in the house. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] no channel update on vdr 1.7.0
C.Scheeder wrote: > Igor schrieb: I had a 1.5.13 running for a while on a nexus FF. I did install a second card, S2-3200, together with the multiproto driver and vdr 1.7.0, without patches at this moment, because I am not interested in HD at this time. I am just looking to have 2 cards working to be able to stream on several vdr clients and use the output of my FF card. The S2 card is on astra, and the FF on hotbird I started with a clean vdrconf directory, and with a channel.conf with only 1 entry (TV5) on hotbird. I hoped that vdr would scan new channels, but it did only for a few. After starting the first time, it scanned about 10 new channels and stops there. In the DVB menu, update stands on add new transponder I did try with an other channel.conf. I can see every FTA channel on hotbird, but I have a black screen on astra (nothing as channel not available ). The log does nt learn me something either. In fact the log is flooded by kernel messages about stb6100 that get_frequence and bandwith. The frequence are always the same. -why is the autoscan not working ? Do I need some transponder file ? -how can I check the signal on my S2-3200 card ? -how can I reduce the logs from stb6100 ? -do I need to apply a concurrent recording patch to be able to stream 2 or more signals ? thanks for your help >>> Errm, >>> you say you have two FF-Cards, one connected to an LNB poniting hotbird >>> and one connected to another LNB pointing to Astra? >>> AFAIk this will NOT work. >>> if vdr has 2 cards, it only uses the second card to do channel-scan, >> but why vdr chose the second card, not the first one ? >> and this vdr's behaviour only for scan ? >> >> Igor > > Hrm, > i could say RTFM, but that would be a little rude ;-) > so lets explain it in short: > per design vdr reserves the first card in system for life viewing and does > not use it for other > so called "idle" tasks like epg-scann or transponder-scann if there is a > second card in the system. > thats by design, and it is written down the documentation. > > And when it comes to viewing a transponder, vdr uses the first card to get > the signal if that tuner > is available. > so in your configuration you will only be able to watch the channels on > hotbird, but you only can > scan on astra with plain vdr > Nice situation... ;-) > Christoph > > ___ > vdr mailing list > vdr@linuxtv.org > http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr > Aaah Bloody Germans >> per design vdr reserves the first card in system for life viewing and does >> not use it for other "live" viewing. Its a mistake that is made absolutely everywhere, especially in the press, who should really know better. I'm absolutely astounded about how many Germans (I live in Germany), are nearly perfect with their English but make this mistake. But we see it in "Clever Modern" advertising all the time now. "the length of someone's life" "The concert was shown live in TV" "I live in my house", etc. There's certainly no system in things like those in the English language. Sorry, just a pet rant of mine. Cheers Brian ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] no channel update on vdr 1.7.0
Lauri Tischler wrote: > Igor wrote: > >> could you explain please how it's possible to connect 3 cards in VDR to 3 >> LNB's for Hotbird, Sirius, Astra for example >> with DiSEq-Cswitch > > Simple diagram, using quad-lnb's, input of lnbs are called as > HB-1, HB-2, HB-3, HB-4 > SI-1, SI-2, S1-3, SI-4 > AS-1, AS-2, AS-3, AS-4 > >Diseqc-switch 1 > ++ > ||--- HB-1 > Card1 -||--- SI-1 > ||--- AS-1 > ||--- free > ++ > >Diseqc-switch 2 > ++ > ||--- HB-2 > Card2 -||--- SI-2 > ||--- AS-2 > ||--- free > ++ > >Diseqc-switch 3 > ++ > ||--- HB-3 > Card3 -||--- SI-3 > ||--- AS-3 > ||--- free > ++ > > ___ > vdr mailing list > vdr@linuxtv.org > http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr > Hi, does that really work, or am I misunderstanding a quad-LNB? I though the the 4 outputs of a quad LNB are hi/V lo/V hi/H and Lo/H. Or is that a quattro LNB? So what you are saying is that a quad LNB can supply any of the 4 "freqs/polarization" down any of its 4 connections? Any if required the same signal down all 4 connections? This solution is certainly a lot cheaper because otherwise he would need 12 input lines, so the spaun would not have worked as it only had 8 Sat input lines. So he would have needed a more expensive model. Cheers Brian ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] no channel update on vdr 1.7.0
On Wed, 21 May 2008 17:01:22 +0300 Lauri Tischler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mattia Rossi wrote: > > On Wed, 21 May 2008 16:57:33 +0400 > > Igor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- snip - > >> could you explain please how it's possible to connect 3 cards in > >> VDR to 3 LNB's for Hotbird, Sirius, Astra for example with > >> DiSEq-Cswitch > >> > > > > Hmm, using this switch ? > > http://www.spaun.de/?lang=en&modul=products&product=842379&productname=SBK9935NF > > Good God NO, just a simple 4 input diseqc-switch, one for > each card, price something like 10-30€ each > Well, he didn't ask for the cheapest solution, he only asked how it could be done ;) By the way, the multiple diseqc switch is ok if the number of dvb terminals is less than 4, for 4 terminal or more the multiswitch solution (it hasn't to be spaun) becomes quickly more convenient in terms of complexity and, eventually, costs If you also need to mix terrestrial signal to the lot, then it becomes even more desirable. ... but we are digressing :) Cheers Mattia -- ---MR.- ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] no channel update on vdr 1.7.0
Mattia Rossi wrote: > On Wed, 21 May 2008 16:57:33 +0400 > Igor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- snip - >> could you explain please how it's possible to connect 3 cards in VDR >> to 3 LNB's for Hotbird, Sirius, Astra for example with DiSEq-Cswitch >> > > Hmm, using this switch ? > http://www.spaun.de/?lang=en&modul=products&product=842379&productname=SBK9935NF Good God NO, just a simple 4 input diseqc-switch, one for each card, price something like 10-30€ each ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] no channel update on vdr 1.7.0
Igor wrote: > could you explain please how it's possible to connect 3 cards in VDR to 3 > LNB's for Hotbird, Sirius, Astra for example > with DiSEq-Cswitch Simple diagram, using quad-lnb's, input of lnbs are called as HB-1, HB-2, HB-3, HB-4 SI-1, SI-2, S1-3, SI-4 AS-1, AS-2, AS-3, AS-4 Diseqc-switch 1 ++ ||--- HB-1 Card1 -||--- SI-1 ||--- AS-1 ||--- free ++ Diseqc-switch 2 ++ ||--- HB-2 Card2 -||--- SI-2 ||--- AS-2 ||--- free ++ Diseqc-switch 3 ++ ||--- HB-3 Card3 -||--- SI-3 ||--- AS-3 ||--- free ++ ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] no channel update on vdr 1.7.0
On Wed, 21 May 2008 16:57:33 +0400 Igor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- snip - > > could you explain please how it's possible to connect 3 cards in VDR > to 3 LNB's for Hotbird, Sirius, Astra for example with DiSEq-Cswitch > Hmm, using this switch ? http://www.spaun.de/?lang=en&modul=products&product=842379&productname=SBK9935NF Mattia -- ---MR.- ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] no channel update on vdr 1.7.0
Igor schrieb: > I did install a second card, S2-3200, together with the multiproto driver > and vdr 1.7.0, without patches at this moment, because I am not interested > in HD at this time. I am just looking to have 2 cards working to be able > to stream on several vdr clients and use the output of my FF card. The S2 > card is on astra, and the FF on hotbird > > I started with a clean vdrconf directory, and with a channel.conf with > only 1 entry (TV5) on hotbird. I hoped that vdr would scan new channels, > but it did only for a few. > > After starting the first time, it scanned about 10 new channels and stops > there. In the DVB menu, update stands on add new transponder > > I did try with an other channel.conf. I can see every FTA channel on > hotbird, but I have a black screen on astra (nothing as channel not > available ). > > The log does nt learn me something either. In fact the log is flooded by > kernel messages about stb6100 that get_frequence and bandwith. The > frequence are always the same. > -why is the autoscan not working ? Do I need some transponder file ? > > -how can I check the signal on my S2-3200 card ? > > -how can I reduce the logs from stb6100 ? > > -do I need to apply a concurrent recording patch to be able to stream 2 or > more signals ? > >>> Errm, you say you have two FF-Cards, one connected to an LNB poniting hotbird and one connected to another LNB pointing to Astra? >>> no, he has one FF card, second one is budget card TT3200 >>> >>> Igor >>> >> Ok, but this does not make any difference in this situation, it will plain >> NOT work, as long as each >> card is hard-wired to only one of the LNBs. >> To get channelsacn working he will have to patch vdr (probably by himself) > > OK > >> or get at least one switch to get both satelites to both of his cards. > > sorry, I don't understand how is it proceed ? How is it possible to connect > two or more cards to two or more LNB's. > Hm, back to basics of satreception... if you want more then one satelite you will need a so called diseq-switch, it has 2 ore more connectors for lnb's and one for a sat-receiver/card. you need such a switch to connect multiple lnb's to one receiver/card of vdr. if you want to connect another card to these lnb's youlneed 3 so called twin-lnb's (these habe two signal-outputs) and another diseq-switch. This is the way it's done regularly. Christoph ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] no channel update on vdr 1.7.0
Igor schrieb: >>> I had a 1.5.13 running for a while on a nexus FF. >>> >>> I did install a second card, S2-3200, together with the multiproto driver >>> and vdr 1.7.0, without patches at this moment, because I am not interested >>> in HD at this time. I am just looking to have 2 cards working to be able >>> to stream on several vdr clients and use the output of my FF card. The S2 >>> card is on astra, and the FF on hotbird >>> >>> I started with a clean vdrconf directory, and with a channel.conf with >>> only 1 entry (TV5) on hotbird. I hoped that vdr would scan new channels, >>> but it did only for a few. >>> >>> After starting the first time, it scanned about 10 new channels and stops >>> there. In the DVB menu, update stands on add new transponder >>> >>> I did try with an other channel.conf. I can see every FTA channel on >>> hotbird, but I have a black screen on astra (nothing as channel not >>> available ). >>> >>> The log does nt learn me something either. In fact the log is flooded by >>> kernel messages about stb6100 that get_frequence and bandwith. The >>> frequence are always the same. >>> -why is the autoscan not working ? Do I need some transponder file ? >>> >>> -how can I check the signal on my S2-3200 card ? >>> >>> -how can I reduce the logs from stb6100 ? >>> >>> -do I need to apply a concurrent recording patch to be able to stream 2 or >>> more signals ? >>> >>> thanks for your help >>> > >> Errm, >> you say you have two FF-Cards, one connected to an LNB poniting hotbird >> and one connected to another LNB pointing to Astra? >> AFAIk this will NOT work. >> if vdr has 2 cards, it only uses the second card to do channel-scan, > > but why vdr chose the second card, not the first one ? > and this vdr's behaviour only for scan ? > > Igor Hrm, i could say RTFM, but that would be a little rude ;-) so lets explain it in short: per design vdr reserves the first card in system for life viewing and does not use it for other so called "idle" tasks like epg-scann or transponder-scann if there is a second card in the system. thats by design, and it is written down the documentation. And when it comes to viewing a transponder, vdr uses the first card to get the signal if that tuner is available. so in your configuration you will only be able to watch the channels on hotbird, but you only can scan on astra with plain vdr Nice situation... ;-) Christoph ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] no channel update on vdr 1.7.0
Igor wrote: >> Jean-Claude Repetto wrote: >>> Lauri Tischler a Иcrit : Jean-Claude Repetto wrote: > Klaus Schmidinger wrote : >> Plain vanilly VDR assumes that every DVB-S card can receive all >> satellites. >> >> Klaus >> > I hope this will be configurable in VDR 1.8 ! > The LNB type should also be configurable for each DVB card (I am still > using a Full-band LNB on my motorized dish). There used to be 'sourcecaps patch' somewhere, dig it up and fix it to work with 1.7.0. >>> Yes, I know, but I think this should be supported by VDR in the standard >>> version. Lots of people have two dishes pointing to different satellites. >> It is supported by using multi-input lnb's and diseqc-switches :) >> > > could you explain please how it's possible to connect 3 cards in VDR to 3 > LNB's for Hotbird, Sirius, Astra for example > with DiSEq-Cswitch - take 3 pc of 4-1 diseqc switch, one for each card - use quad-lnb's on each dish crossconnect all lnb's to all diseqc-switches ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] no channel update on vdr 1.7.0
> Jean-Claude Repetto wrote: > > Lauri Tischler a Иcrit : > >> Jean-Claude Repetto wrote: > >>> Klaus Schmidinger wrote : > Plain vanilly VDR assumes that every DVB-S card can receive all > satellites. > > Klaus > > >>> I hope this will be configurable in VDR 1.8 ! > >>> The LNB type should also be configurable for each DVB card (I am still > >>> using a Full-band LNB on my motorized dish). > >> There used to be 'sourcecaps patch' somewhere, dig it up and > >> fix it to work with 1.7.0. > >> > > > > Yes, I know, but I think this should be supported by VDR in the standard > > version. Lots of people have two dishes pointing to different satellites. > > It is supported by using multi-input lnb's and diseqc-switches :) > could you explain please how it's possible to connect 3 cards in VDR to 3 LNB's for Hotbird, Sirius, Astra for example with DiSEq-Cswitch Igor ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] no channel update on vdr 1.7.0
> >>> > >>> I did install a second card, S2-3200, together with the multiproto driver > >>> and vdr 1.7.0, without patches at this moment, because I am not interested > >>> in HD at this time. I am just looking to have 2 cards working to be able > >>> to stream on several vdr clients and use the output of my FF card. The S2 > >>> card is on astra, and the FF on hotbird > >>> > >>> I started with a clean vdrconf directory, and with a channel.conf with > >>> only 1 entry (TV5) on hotbird. I hoped that vdr would scan new channels, > >>> but it did only for a few. > >>> > >>> After starting the first time, it scanned about 10 new channels and stops > >>> there. In the DVB menu, update stands on add new transponder > >>> > >>> I did try with an other channel.conf. I can see every FTA channel on > >>> hotbird, but I have a black screen on astra (nothing as channel not > >>> available ). > >>> > >>> The log does nt learn me something either. In fact the log is flooded by > >>> kernel messages about stb6100 that get_frequence and bandwith. The > >>> frequence are always the same. > >>> -why is the autoscan not working ? Do I need some transponder file ? > >>> > >>> -how can I check the signal on my S2-3200 card ? > >>> > >>> -how can I reduce the logs from stb6100 ? > >>> > >>> -do I need to apply a concurrent recording patch to be able to stream 2 or > >>> more signals ? > >>> > > > > > >> Errm, > >> you say you have two FF-Cards, one connected to an LNB poniting hotbird > >> and one connected to another LNB pointing to Astra? > > > > no, he has one FF card, second one is budget card TT3200 > > > > Igor > > > > Ok, but this does not make any difference in this situation, it will plain > NOT work, as long as each > card is hard-wired to only one of the LNBs. > To get channelsacn working he will have to patch vdr (probably by himself) OK >or get at least one switch to get both satelites to both of his cards. sorry, I don't understand how is it proceed ? How is it possible to connect two or more cards to two or more LNB's. Igor ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] no channel update on vdr 1.7.0
Jean-Claude Repetto wrote: > Lauri Tischler a écrit : >> Jean-Claude Repetto wrote: >>> Klaus Schmidinger wrote : Plain vanilly VDR assumes that every DVB-S card can receive all satellites. Klaus >>> I hope this will be configurable in VDR 1.8 ! >>> The LNB type should also be configurable for each DVB card (I am still >>> using a Full-band LNB on my motorized dish). >> There used to be 'sourcecaps patch' somewhere, dig it up and >> fix it to work with 1.7.0. >> > > Yes, I know, but I think this should be supported by VDR in the standard > version. Lots of people have two dishes pointing to different satellites. It is supported by using multi-input lnb's and diseqc-switches :) ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] no channel update on vdr 1.7.0
> > I had a 1.5.13 running for a while on a nexus FF. > > > > I did install a second card, S2-3200, together with the multiproto driver > > and vdr 1.7.0, without patches at this moment, because I am not interested > > in HD at this time. I am just looking to have 2 cards working to be able > > to stream on several vdr clients and use the output of my FF card. The S2 > > card is on astra, and the FF on hotbird > > > > I started with a clean vdrconf directory, and with a channel.conf with > > only 1 entry (TV5) on hotbird. I hoped that vdr would scan new channels, > > but it did only for a few. > > > > After starting the first time, it scanned about 10 new channels and stops > > there. In the DVB menu, update stands on add new transponder > > > > I did try with an other channel.conf. I can see every FTA channel on > > hotbird, but I have a black screen on astra (nothing as channel not > > available ). > > > > The log does nt learn me something either. In fact the log is flooded by > > kernel messages about stb6100 that get_frequence and bandwith. The > > frequence are always the same. > > -why is the autoscan not working ? Do I need some transponder file ? > > > > -how can I check the signal on my S2-3200 card ? > > > > -how can I reduce the logs from stb6100 ? > > > > -do I need to apply a concurrent recording patch to be able to stream 2 or > > more signals ? > > > > thanks for your help > > > Errm, > you say you have two FF-Cards, one connected to an LNB poniting hotbird > and one connected to another LNB pointing to Astra? > AFAIk this will NOT work. > if vdr has 2 cards, it only uses the second card to do channel-scan, but why vdr chose the second card, not the first one ? and this vdr's behaviour only for scan ? Igor > it does not know these two > cards are hardwired to different sat-positions, and i know of now way to tell > it about such a > confguration. > Is this correct Klaus? ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] no channel update on vdr 1.7.0
Lauri Tischler a écrit : > Jean-Claude Repetto wrote: >> Klaus Schmidinger wrote : >>> Plain vanilly VDR assumes that every DVB-S card can receive all satellites. >>> >>> Klaus >>> >> I hope this will be configurable in VDR 1.8 ! >> The LNB type should also be configurable for each DVB card (I am still >> using a Full-band LNB on my motorized dish). > > There used to be 'sourcecaps patch' somewhere, dig it up and > fix it to work with 1.7.0. > Yes, I know, but I think this should be supported by VDR in the standard version. Lots of people have two dishes pointing to different satellites. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] no channel update on vdr 1.7.0
Jean-Claude Repetto wrote: > Klaus Schmidinger wrote : >> Plain vanilly VDR assumes that every DVB-S card can receive all satellites. >> >> Klaus >> > > I hope this will be configurable in VDR 1.8 ! > The LNB type should also be configurable for each DVB card (I am still > using a Full-band LNB on my motorized dish). There used to be 'sourcecaps patch' somewhere, dig it up and fix it to work with 1.7.0. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] no channel update on vdr 1.7.0
I would suggest to start vdr up with only one device at at time (by using the command line parameter to a fixed dvb card) and then use the channel scan plugin, repeat this for each device. This will surely force vdr to use the only selected device to do a channel scan? Theunis 2008/5/21 Jean-Claude Repetto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Klaus Schmidinger wrote : > > Plain vanilly VDR assumes that every DVB-S card can receive all > satellites. > > > > Klaus > > > > I hope this will be configurable in VDR 1.8 ! > The LNB type should also be configurable for each DVB card (I am still > using a Full-band LNB on my motorized dish). > > ___ > vdr mailing list > vdr@linuxtv.org > http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr > ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] no channel update on vdr 1.7.0
Klaus Schmidinger wrote : > Plain vanilly VDR assumes that every DVB-S card can receive all satellites. > > Klaus > I hope this will be configurable in VDR 1.8 ! The LNB type should also be configurable for each DVB card (I am still using a Full-band LNB on my motorized dish). ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] no channel update on vdr 1.7.0
Igor schrieb: >>> I had a 1.5.13 running for a while on a nexus FF. >>> >>> I did install a second card, S2-3200, together with the multiproto driver >>> and vdr 1.7.0, without patches at this moment, because I am not interested >>> in HD at this time. I am just looking to have 2 cards working to be able >>> to stream on several vdr clients and use the output of my FF card. The S2 >>> card is on astra, and the FF on hotbird >>> >>> I started with a clean vdrconf directory, and with a channel.conf with >>> only 1 entry (TV5) on hotbird. I hoped that vdr would scan new channels, >>> but it did only for a few. >>> >>> After starting the first time, it scanned about 10 new channels and stops >>> there. In the DVB menu, update stands on add new transponder >>> >>> I did try with an other channel.conf. I can see every FTA channel on >>> hotbird, but I have a black screen on astra (nothing as channel not >>> available ). >>> >>> The log does nt learn me something either. In fact the log is flooded by >>> kernel messages about stb6100 that get_frequence and bandwith. The >>> frequence are always the same. >>> -why is the autoscan not working ? Do I need some transponder file ? >>> >>> -how can I check the signal on my S2-3200 card ? >>> >>> -how can I reduce the logs from stb6100 ? >>> >>> -do I need to apply a concurrent recording patch to be able to stream 2 or >>> more signals ? >>> > > >> Errm, >> you say you have two FF-Cards, one connected to an LNB poniting hotbird >> and one connected to another LNB pointing to Astra? > > no, he has one FF card, second one is budget card TT3200 > > Igor > Ok, but this does not make any difference in this situation, it will plain NOT work, as long as each card is hard-wired to only one of the LNBs. To get channelsacn working he will have to patch vdr (probably by himself) or get at least one switch to get both satelites to both of his cards. Christoph >> AFAIk this will NOT work. >> if vdr has 2 cards, it only uses the second card to do channel-scan, it does >> not know these two >> cards are hardwired to different sat-positions, and i know of now way to >> tell it about such a >> confguration. >> Is this correct Klaus? >> Christoph > > > ___ > vdr mailing list > vdr@linuxtv.org > http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] no channel update on vdr 1.7.0
> > I had a 1.5.13 running for a while on a nexus FF. > > > > I did install a second card, S2-3200, together with the multiproto driver > > and vdr 1.7.0, without patches at this moment, because I am not interested > > in HD at this time. I am just looking to have 2 cards working to be able > > to stream on several vdr clients and use the output of my FF card. The S2 > > card is on astra, and the FF on hotbird > > > > I started with a clean vdrconf directory, and with a channel.conf with > > only 1 entry (TV5) on hotbird. I hoped that vdr would scan new channels, > > but it did only for a few. > > > > After starting the first time, it scanned about 10 new channels and stops > > there. In the DVB menu, update stands on add new transponder > > > > I did try with an other channel.conf. I can see every FTA channel on > > hotbird, but I have a black screen on astra (nothing as channel not > > available ). > > > > The log does nt learn me something either. In fact the log is flooded by > > kernel messages about stb6100 that get_frequence and bandwith. The > > frequence are always the same. > > -why is the autoscan not working ? Do I need some transponder file ? > > > > -how can I check the signal on my S2-3200 card ? > > > > -how can I reduce the logs from stb6100 ? > > > > -do I need to apply a concurrent recording patch to be able to stream 2 or > > more signals ? > > > Errm, > you say you have two FF-Cards, one connected to an LNB poniting hotbird > and one connected to another LNB pointing to Astra? no, he has one FF card, second one is budget card TT3200 Igor > AFAIk this will NOT work. > if vdr has 2 cards, it only uses the second card to do channel-scan, it does > not know these two > cards are hardwired to different sat-positions, and i know of now way to tell > it about such a > confguration. > Is this correct Klaus? > Christoph ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] no channel update on vdr 1.7.0
On 05/21/08 11:54, C.Scheeder wrote: > ... > if vdr has 2 cards, it only uses the second card to do channel-scan, it does > not know these two > cards are hardwired to different sat-positions, and i know of now way to tell > it about such a > confguration. > Is this correct Klaus? That is corrent. Plain vanilly VDR assumes that every DVB-S card can receive all satellites. Klaus ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] no channel update on vdr 1.7.0
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: > Hello, > > I had a 1.5.13 running for a while on a nexus FF. > > I did install a second card, S2-3200, together with the multiproto driver > and vdr 1.7.0, without patches at this moment, because I am not interested > in HD at this time. I am just looking to have 2 cards working to be able > to stream on several vdr clients and use the output of my FF card. The S2 > card is on astra, and the FF on hotbird > > I started with a “clean” vdrconf directory, and with a channel.conf with > only 1 entry (TV5) on hotbird. I hoped that vdr would scan new channels, > but it did only for a few. > > After starting the first time, it scanned about 10 new channels and stops > there. In the DVB menu, update stands on “add new transponder” > > I did try with an other channel.conf. I can see every FTA channel on > hotbird, but I have a black screen on astra (nothing as “channel not > available”). > > The log does’nt learn me something either. In fact the log is flooded by > kernel messages about stb6100 that get_frequence and bandwith. The > frequence are always the same. > -why is the “autoscan” not working ? Do I need some “transponder file” ? > > -how can I check the signal on my S2-3200 card ? > > -how can I reduce the logs from stb6100 ? > > -do I need to apply a concurrent recording patch to be able to stream 2 or > more signals ? > > thanks for your help > > sp > > > > ___ > vdr mailing list > vdr@linuxtv.org > http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr Errm, you say you have two FF-Cards, one connected to an LNB poniting hotbird and one connected to another LNB pointing to Astra? AFAIk this will NOT work. if vdr has 2 cards, it only uses the second card to do channel-scan, it does not know these two cards are hardwired to different sat-positions, and i know of now way to tell it about such a confguration. Is this correct Klaus? Christoph ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] no channel update on vdr 1.7.0
> I had a 1.5.13 running for a while on a nexus FF. > > I did install a second card, S2-3200, together with the multiproto driver do you use the latest multiproto's version ? > and vdr 1.7.0, without patches at this moment, because I am not interested > in HD at this time. I am just looking to have 2 cards working to be able > to stream on several vdr clients and use the output of my FF card. The S2 > card is on astra, and the FF on hotbird > > I started with a clean vdrconf directory, and with a channel.conf with > only 1 entry (TV5) on hotbird. I hoped that vdr would scan new channels, > but it did only for a few. > After starting the first time, it scanned about 10 new channels and stops > there. In the DVB menu, update stands on add new transponder how did you start the scanning on vdr ? > I did try with an other channel.conf. I can see every FTA channel on > hotbird, but I have a black screen on astra (nothing as channel not > available ). > > The log does nt learn me something either. In fact the log is flooded by > kernel messages about stb6100 that get_frequence and bandwith. The > frequence are always the same. > -why is the autoscan not working ? Do I need some transponder file ? there's reelchannelscan plugin 0.4.1 It works with dvb-s channels on vdr170 , not with dvb-s2. > -how can I check the signal on my S2-3200 card ? femon-plugin will helpto you > -how can I reduce the logs from stb6100 ? have a look on verbose option for stb6100 module - modinfo stb6100 > -do I need to apply a concurrent recording patch to be able to stream 2 or > more signals ? which patch do you mean ? Igor ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
