RE: [Veritas-bu] Renaming NB 6.0MP2 servers

2006-05-11 Thread WEAVER, Simon

Steve
Any docs?

Regards

Simon Weaver
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Windows Domain Administrator

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-Original Message-
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Sent: 10 May 2006 15:39
To: WEAVER, Simon
Cc: 'Justin Piszcz'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Renaming NB 6.0MP2 servers


I've done it - it was actually a more complex problem in my case: I
cooked 4 master servers (1 Windows, 3 Solaris) down into one Solaris
master. It was a very time-consuming and involved process. It worked
just fine, however there are a ton of gotchas along the way. I did a
lot of scripting, both beforehand and on the fly, in order to get this
to work. I also had a very good working knowledge of NBU and its
internals. please be sure that you really need to do this before
attempting it.

--Steve

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 */It can be done - I just spoke to someone but told me its a drawn out
 process (not supported by Symantec) but it could work./*
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 */Not too sure how much of a risk it is/*
 
 

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 -Original Message-
 *From:* Justin Piszcz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Not supported under 5.1x and when I opened a ticket concerning
 this they said there is no supported method, only if it is REALLY
 necessary you can call Veritas' consulting services and have them
 fix it.

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 I'd like to rename a NB 6.0MP2 master server. In fact, i want
 to clone my master production server  and rename it at our DR
 site.

 As far as i know this isn't really supported yet.

   
 
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[Veritas-bu] Windows 2003 date format

2006-05-11 Thread mark . a . goodchild

All

Does anyone know how to format the date
in a windows 2003 batch script
I want to change dd/mm/yy to mm/dd/yy

Regards
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RE: [Veritas-bu] Windows 2003 date format

2006-05-11 Thread WEAVER, Simon
Title: Message



Mark
Not tested this, but is it something like set 
PDate%mm%/%DD%/%YY%


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Shortening Timeouts

2006-05-11 Thread Justin Piszcz

If the host is unreachable to begin with you should get an error 48,
if it becomes unreachable during the backup, you'd have to show us
your configuration times/timeout settings..

I am trying to think if I ever shut a box down while it was being
backed up and recalling the timeout/etc.., I do not remember a
situation like that unfortuantely.


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Last night, we had some of our servers powered down for some early
morning power maintenance.  I have been looking at the logs for the
backups to analyze failures.  One thing I have noticed is that for the
powered off servers, it took over 3 hours for the job to fail.  Given
that the server is unavailable, and looking at my Timeout settings on
the Master, why would it take 3 hours, rather than 5 minutes?  Is there
a way to expedite the failing of jobs for unreachable hosts?

Thanks,
Jason


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IITS - Longwood University
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RE: [Veritas-bu] Shortening Timeouts

2006-05-11 Thread WEAVER, Simon

Hi Jason
In a nice real world, if the server was up, then the timeouts would take
affect.

As you mentioned this was an early power down - what was the backup server
doing - was there tapes in the robotic library? Did the robot go down as
well?

From experience, if a power outage occurs, that was not planned, and once
Netbackup sorts itself out, it may fail with an alternative status code.

But it depends on your setup really. Was anything logged in the client. Is
your master set to retry backups. Was there other error status codes before
it finally ended with a code?

Any info may help :-)

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Shortening Timeouts


Last night, we had some of our servers powered down for some early morning
power maintenance.  I have been looking at the logs for the backups to
analyze failures.  One thing I have noticed is that for the powered off
servers, it took over 3 hours for the job to fail.  Given that the server is
unavailable, and looking at my Timeout settings on the Master, why would it
take 3 hours, rather than 5 minutes?  Is there a way to expedite the failing
of jobs for unreachable hosts?

Thanks,
Jason


Jason Brooks
Computer Systems Engineer
IITS - Longwood University
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fax - (434) 395-2035
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[Veritas-bu] Backups running twice during the backup window

2006-05-11 Thread Lew, David
Title: Backups running twice during the backup window





Hi,


My oracle DB netbackup jobs appearantly have been running twice during its backup window. I have scheduled the job to kick-ini at 15:00hrs. The backups run again at 3AM. Any ideas? I am using RMAN scripts via Netbackup. 

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[Veritas-bu] Anyone have an StorageTek SL500 library?

2006-05-11 Thread Justin Piszcz

We will be receiving an EVAL unit soon and wonder if anyone had any
opinions on this library?  For instance, how reliable is it compared
to say, an L700?
Suppose an L700 is better, but the other problem is STK is deprecating
that library soon and the SL500 is going to be the newly supported
library.

Justin.

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RE: [Veritas-bu] Backups running twice during the backup window

2006-05-11 Thread WEAVER, Simon
Title: Message



David
what frequency is set for the Schedule you have setup for the 
Window?


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  Hi, 
  My oracle DB netbackup jobs appearantly have 
  been running twice during its backup window. I have scheduled the job to 
  kick-ini at 15:00hrs. The backups run again at 3AM. Any ideas? I am using RMAN 
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RE: [Veritas-bu] Symantec and Linux support

2006-05-11 Thread Jeff Lightner
This makes the assumption someone at Symantec actually looks at these
things.  I don't know of anyone who has posted on this link that has
ever seen a response.  I know I haven't.

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Ball
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 6:09 PM
To: Ed Wilts; List Veritas List
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Symantec and Linux support

To all the folks who have active Veritas support contracts, and who are
struggling with Veritas's patchy linux support - can I suggest we all
add our thoughts to:
http://enhancement.veritas.com/

At least that way there's some chance that someone further up from your
local account rep will see it. :-)

Regards,
Tristan 

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Symantec and Linux support

I regularly see postings from people looking to enhance their use of
Linux as NetBackup servers.  Although I am a *strong* Linux advocate and
a Red Hat Certified Engineer, I would advise that you think long and
hard about this decision.  Symantec  has not yet been able to
demonstrate any willingness to support Red Hat Enterprise Linux as an
enterprise platform.

Fact:  NetBackup 6.5, targeted for release in February, 2007, will drop
support for RHEL 3.  RHEL 3 started shipping in October, 2003 and will
be supported by Red Hat through October, 2010.  Symantec will cut you
off with its current release nearly 4 years before Red Hat stops
supporting the OS.  On the other hand, Windows 2000, which was released
2 1/2 years earlier than RHEL 3, will still be supported by NetBackup
6.5.
Additionally, mainstream support for Win2K server has already ended and
full support will end from Microsoft *before* RHEL 3 support ends.  This
should show you where Symantec's priorities lie.

Fact:  Symantec Brightmail is not available for RHEL 4 so if you're
deploying today, you have to deploy on RHEL 3.  One Symantec enterprise
product will soon be unable to back up another Symantec enterprise
product.  RHEL 4 has been out for over a year and still Symantec hasn't
started supporting it. I just searched the support site for the system
requirements in case my local office was wrong, and RHEL 4 still does
not seem to be supported.
 
Fact:  NOM on Linux.  Nope, it doesn't exist.  Windows or Solaris only.

Symantec doesn't seem to get it.  I'm turning blue in the face trying to
explain this to my local office.  I know that there are Symantec folks
on this list - feel free to pass this on.  Symantec's actions do not go
without notice.

I've been asked by my management why we're not using Linux for NetBackup
and I bluntly told them that Symantec can't be trusted to support the
platform as it should be trusted.  We recently replaced our master and
one of our media servers and stuck with Solaris.  We spent a lot more
money but at least I know it will work.

Enough rambling.  If you have concerns about NetBackup and Linux
support, contact your Symantec reps.

.../Ed

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RE: [Veritas-bu] Backups running twice during the backup window

2006-05-11 Thread Martin, Jonathan \(Contractor\)
Title: Backups running twice during the backup window



I have an issue with one particular Oracle job where it 
runs twice in a row. The minute one job completes, a second fires off and 
backs up the data again. Thankfully its a small database. I so far 
have yet to figure it out but I've triple checked the policy and it looks 
ok. My current theory involves DBAs being the spawns of Satan. 
=P

-J


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DavidSent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 6:57 AMTo: 
'veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu'Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backups 
running twice during the backup window

Hi, 
My oracle DB netbackup jobs appearantly have 
been running twice during its backup window. I have scheduled the job to 
kick-ini at 15:00hrs. The backups run again at 3AM. Any ideas? I am using RMAN 
scripts via Netbackup. 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone have an StorageTek SL500 library?

2006-05-11 Thread Ed Wilts
On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 07:19:00AM -0400, Justin Piszcz wrote:
 We will be receiving an EVAL unit soon and wonder if anyone had any
 opinions on this library?  For instance, how reliable is it compared
 to say, an L700?
 Suppose an L700 is better, but the other problem is STK is deprecating
 that library soon and the SL500 is going to be the newly supported
 library.

We recently asked a local reseller about the SL500.  This reseller is
very knowledgeable with NetBackup and does consulting too so they see a
lot of sites.  We were trying to decide if we should upgrade the
upgrades in our current L700 or replace the library with an SL500.
Their experience so far shows that the SL500 is fairly reliable.  We
crunched some numbers and jointly decided that staying with the L700 is
the right answer for us - our L700 has been absolutely rock solid.

I talked to a Quantum SE the other day who said that the SL500 does have
alignment issues and we should look at the Quantum libraries, but he's a
wee bit biased :-).

I expect the L700 libraries will be around for a while yet - even if
they're decprecated soon, there are a lot of them out in the field so
they'll be supported for a long time.  After all, it's the big customers
who bought them in the first place.

.../Ed

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[Veritas-bu] Exclusion list

2006-05-11 Thread Covington, Garrett








I have a windows server that has a load of mounted iscsi
drive letters (E:\ - X:\). None of the files on any of the drives need to be
backed up except c:\, d:\ and the system state. What is the best way to exclude
all drives except the ones I need? I currently have the box backing up all
local drives and have the file type that resides on each drive excluded 
but it is taking an hour per drive to come back with 0 kb backed up (because
all of the files are excluded) Should I just exclude all drive letters (ie:
E:\*)?? Or Maybe an include list of sorts?



Thanks,



Garrett Covington

The TriZetto Group, Inc.

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RE: [Veritas-bu] Exclusion list

2006-05-11 Thread Spearman, David
Title: Message



Depends

If the 
system in question is in a policy with other systems that use all local 
drives/system state directives thenyou just want to exclude the entire driveon the 
client exclude list (like E:/ F:/ 
) no * required. If you happened to have a file(s) on any of the 
excluded drives you wanted backed up you could use an include 
list.

On the other hand if the system is in a policy 
by itself just make the selections System State, C:, D; 
etc.


David Spearman
County of Henrico, 
Va.

  
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Covington, GarrettSent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:33 
  AMTo: 'veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu'Subject: 
  [Veritas-bu] Exclusion list
  
  I have a windows server that has a 
  load of mounted iscsi drive letters (E:\ - X:\). None of the files on any of 
  the drives need to be backed up except c:\, d:\ and the system state. What is 
  the best way to exclude all drives except the ones I need? I currently have 
  the box backing up all local drives and have the file type that resides on 
  each drive excluded  but it is taking an hour per drive to come back with 0 
  kb backed up (because all of the files are excluded) Should I just exclude 
  all drive letters (ie: E:\*)?? Or Maybe an include list of 
  sorts?
  
  Thanks,
  
  Garrett Covington
  The TriZetto Group, Inc.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  w: 303-323-6886
  c: 303-204-6695
  


Re: [Veritas-bu] Exclusion list

2006-05-11 Thread Justin Piszcz

Why not just include SYSTEM_STATE, C:\ and D:\?


On 5/11/06, Covington, Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





I have a windows server that has a load of mounted iscsi drive letters (E:\
- X:\). None of the files on any of the drives need to be backed up except
c:\, d:\ and the system state. What is the best way to exclude all drives
except the ones I need? I currently have the box backing up 'all local
drives' and have the file type that resides on each drive excluded – but it
is taking an hour per drive to come back with 0 kb backed up (because all of
the files are excluded)… Should I just exclude all drive letters (ie:
E:\*)?? Or Maybe an include list of sorts?



Thanks,



Garrett Covington

The TriZetto Group, Inc.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

p: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

w: 303-323-6886

c: 303-204-6695




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[Veritas-bu] Datacenter 4.5 Question

2006-05-11 Thread Martin, Jonathan \(Contractor\)
Title: Backups running twice during the backup window



Running Datacenter 4.5 FP6 on Windows 2000

I'm a 
little confused by the datacenter documentation in Veritas Support. It 
looks like the FP7 8 and 9 are not cumulative, and the documentation says you 
must install them on top of FP6, which is cumulative. My question, is that 
I need a bug fix present in 8, is 9 cumulative back to 7 or do I need to run 7,8 
and 9 individually? I'd like to update to FP6 as long as I have a 
maintenance window, even though the fix I need is present in 
8.

Thanks,

-Jonathan


RE: [Veritas-bu] Exclusion list

2006-05-11 Thread Mark.Donaldson
Title: Message



We did the latter for our C  D only systems. 
Just build a policy wth C, D,  system state in it  put our half dozen 
(about 10%) of our NT systems in it.

-M


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Spearman, 
DavidSent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 8:45 AMTo: Covington, 
Garrett; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] 
Exclusion list

Depends

If the 
system in question is in a policy with other systems that use all local 
drives/system state directives thenyou just want to exclude the entire driveon the 
client exclude list (like E:/ F:/ 
) no * required. If you happened to have a file(s) on any of the 
excluded drives you wanted backed up you could use an include 
list.

On the other hand if the system is in a policy 
by itself just make the selections System State, C:, D; 
etc.


David Spearman
County of Henrico, 
Va.

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Covington, GarrettSent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:33 
  AMTo: 'veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu'Subject: 
  [Veritas-bu] Exclusion list
  
  I have a windows server that has a 
  load of mounted iscsi drive letters (E:\ - X:\). None of the files on any of 
  the drives need to be backed up except c:\, d:\ and the system state. What is 
  the best way to exclude all drives except the ones I need? I currently have 
  the box backing up all local drives and have the file type that resides on 
  each drive excluded  but it is taking an hour per drive to come back with 0 
  kb backed up (because all of the files are excluded) Should I just exclude 
  all drive letters (ie: E:\*)?? Or Maybe an include list of 
  sorts?
  
  Thanks,
  
  Garrett Covington
  The TriZetto Group, Inc.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  p: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  w: 303-323-6886
  c: 303-204-6695
  


Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone have an StorageTek SL500 library?

2006-05-11 Thread Casey Feskens

Ed Wilts wrote:

On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 07:19:00AM -0400, Justin Piszcz wrote:
  

We will be receiving an EVAL unit soon and wonder if anyone had any
opinions on this library?  For instance, how reliable is it compared
to say, an L700?
Suppose an L700 is better, but the other problem is STK is deprecating
that library soon and the SL500 is going to be the newly supported
library.


We've had one in production for a year.  We had to have a backplane replaced
almost immediately, but haven't had any problems other than that.  We 
haven't

had any issues with the picker in a year.

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Willamette Integrated Technology Services
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Symantec and Linux support

2006-05-11 Thread Rob Worman
FYI on this topic of NBU support and RedHat 3 in particular...

Ed, you wrote that:

snip
 Fact:  NetBackup 6.5, targeted for release in February, 2007, will drop
 support for RHEL 3.  RHEL 3 started shipping in October, 2003 and will
 be supported by Red Hat through October, 2010.  Symantec will cut you
 off with its current release nearly 4 years before Red Hat stops
 supporting the OS.  On the other hand, Windows 2000, which was released
 2 1/2 years earlier than RHEL 3, will still be supported by NetBackup
 6.5.
/snip

I must respectfully disagree with this Fact:.

The relevant Symantec publication on this topic seems to be p.3-4 of
the NetBackup 6 OS Supportability Matrix, found here:

http://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_Enterprise_Server/278064.pdf

In particular, references to RH 3 include a footnote that reads,

  Next major release following NetBackup 6.0
   will not support this OS Version.  This status
   could change if market and/or vendor support
   positions change.

For the past 8 years that I've been using NBU and reading these 
supportability statements, the phrase next major release has
consistently referred to the next major version number.  
i.e., NetBackup 7.0 (or NBU 8, or NBU 2008, or whatever TPTB 
decide to call it).

So I'm quite confident that these questions don't apply to 6.5.

In my experience, NBU has been good about fully supporting an 
OS revision for AT LEAST as long as the OS vendor is still 
providing general fixes for that version.  For RH3, I think that
will be true until November of this year.  Reference:

http://www.redhat.com/security/updates/errata/

HTH
rob

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RE: [Veritas-bu] Sg / sgen driver issue

2006-05-11 Thread Song, Young
 

Currently my /dev/rmt directory has symlinks for the ID 0 only no matter
what I tried (devfsadm, cfgadm, boot -r, etc.) By any chance, is configuring
the SG driver a next step once I have all the entries in /dev/rmt? If I
don't have /dev/rmt entries for the 2nd drive, what should I do?

Thanks.


- Young


-Original Message-
From: Tristan Ball [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 3:38 PM
To: Song, Young; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Sg / sgen driver issue

Your st.conf probably has something like:

name=st class=scsi
target=0 lun=0;

name=st class=scsi
target=1 lun=0;

You need to add lines like:

name=st class=scsi
target=0 lun=1;

name=st class=scsi
target=0 lun=2;

I personally added Luns 1-7 on targets 0-7. That possibly makes boot up a
little slower, but it also means the drives will be picked up almost
regardless of whatever silliness I might pull on the SAN. :-)

Regards,
T.

-Original Message-
From: Song, Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 11 May 2006 8:25 AM
To: Tristan Ball; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Sg / sgen driver issue

 


Hi Tristan,


That sounds to be my case as well.

 From the info for the one drive and router that are visible, how can I
identify and add the correct entry for the other tape drive into st.conf
file?

Thanks!


- Young



-Original Message-
From: Tristan Ball [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 3:15 PM
To: Song, Young; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Sg / sgen driver issue

Have a look at your st.conf. I have a MSL 6030, and it attaches to the FC
via a built in SCSI/FC router. That router presents the tape drives as LUN's
1  2, with the controller as LUN 0.

By default, the solaris st only scans LUN 0, but that can be changed in ST
conf.

Regards,
Tristan. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Song, Young
Sent: Thursday, 11 May 2006 4:33 AM
To: 'veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu'
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Sg / sgen driver issue



I'm trying to set up Sun Fire-480R as a new backup server to replace an old
one and in a situation where I'm stuck and thus want to ask here.

I'm running Solaris 8 with all the latest Solaris patches including st
driver patch, etc.  latest SAN Foundation Kit 4.4.9. 

And I have a FC-attached HP MSL 5060 library with 2 LTO-1 drives via Brocade
Silkworm switches.

After installing NetBackup v5.1, I tried following the steps in
MediaMgr_DeviceConfig_Guide.txt but no matter what I tried, I couldn't have
it see both tape drives properly and I believe it's something to do with
sg.conf, sg.links,  devlink.tab files. However, I may be wrong.

I tried all I could try with cfgadm, devfsadm, luxadm, zoning, etc. and know
that I have all the proper connections and the box can see the library
itself but not all the drives.

Anyone experienced similar things and have any advice?


Thank you in advance!!!


- Young


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Symantec and Linux support

2006-05-11 Thread Austin Murphy

From that link it shows that RedHat's support position boils down to 3

years of helping people migrate TO a particular release and 4 years of
migrating FROM that release.  Basically, after 3 years, they won't
officially help you deploy a new system on that release.

Same with Symantec.  New deployments of the latest NetBackup Server on
a 3 year old RedHat release don't make a lot of sense.  I'm sure the
client will still work and if it doesn't you can run the older client
and still get support.

Regardless of the official position now, there are a ton of people
using RHEL 3, just like Solaris 8.  Both face the same issue in the
next major NetBackup release.

Austin


On 5/11/06, Rob Worman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

FYI on this topic of NBU support and RedHat 3 in particular...

Ed, you wrote that:

snip
 Fact:  NetBackup 6.5, targeted for release in February, 2007, will drop
 support for RHEL 3.  RHEL 3 started shipping in October, 2003 and will
 be supported by Red Hat through October, 2010.  Symantec will cut you
 off with its current release nearly 4 years before Red Hat stops
 supporting the OS.  On the other hand, Windows 2000, which was released
 2 1/2 years earlier than RHEL 3, will still be supported by NetBackup
 6.5.
/snip

I must respectfully disagree with this Fact:.

The relevant Symantec publication on this topic seems to be p.3-4 of
the NetBackup 6 OS Supportability Matrix, found here:

http://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_Enterprise_Server/278064.pdf

In particular, references to RH 3 include a footnote that reads,

  Next major release following NetBackup 6.0
   will not support this OS Version.  This status
   could change if market and/or vendor support
   positions change.

For the past 8 years that I've been using NBU and reading these
supportability statements, the phrase next major release has
consistently referred to the next major version number.
i.e., NetBackup 7.0 (or NBU 8, or NBU 2008, or whatever TPTB
decide to call it).

So I'm quite confident that these questions don't apply to 6.5.

In my experience, NBU has been good about fully supporting an
OS revision for AT LEAST as long as the OS vendor is still
providing general fixes for that version.  For RH3, I think that
will be true until November of this year.  Reference:

http://www.redhat.com/security/updates/errata/

HTH
rob

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backups running twice during the backup window

2006-05-11 Thread Wayne T Smith
If they are both scheduled by NetBackup, it's probably in your 
Policy(ies) and Schedule(s) configuration.  The most likely scenarios 
are multiple policies or using a frequency-based schedule where your 
frequency is 12 hours.  If using Calendar-based scheduling, I'll note 
that the 1500 and 0300 backups are on different days.


cheers, wayne

Lew, David wrote, in part,  on 5/11/2006 6:57 AM:


My oracle DB netbackup jobs appearantly have been running twice during 
its backup window. I have scheduled the job to kick-ini at 15:00hrs. 
The backups run again at 3AM. Any ideas? I am using RMAN scripts via 
Netbackup.||



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RE: [Veritas-bu] File listing for Fragment

2006-05-11 Thread Greenberg, Brian
Mickey,

You're right.  Easiest way would to be to import the tape set and then restore 
to another NDMP host however, you may need to know of it came from a EMC or a 
NetApp box.  You can't restore EMC to NetApp and visa versa.  Additionally, the 
backup may have happened in dump or tar.  Depending on the platform and 
depending on the policy settings for the NDMP host.

Regards,
   Brian

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mickey Baker
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 1:54 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: FW: [Veritas-bu] File listing for Fragment


Andrew,

Were these tapes made using ndmp or were they made using a mapped drive from
a NetBackup enabled client?

ndmp uses a dump file format like Solaris ufsdump. If your restoring from
ndmp, once you put the NetBackup fragments back together, you will then have
an Ontap compatible dump file, which you can use an Ontap restore command
or Solaris ufsdump. I don't see getting around having to restore the entire
dumpfile, which is a PITA for those of us use to the ease of single file
restore with NetBackup, but is a reality when dealing with ndmp in
combination with any 3rd party software. 

Why go to all this bother?  Import all the tapes into NetBackup, then
restore the entire qtree to an alternate location using NetBackup. Pick out
the files you need and move them back where you need them.

That's really the best way to do it. You can create an alternate location to
restore with inexpensive storage for less money than you can write the code
to do it - and you're still going to need to restore the entire dump file
somewhere or write code to dynamically keep track of both the fragment
structure and the dump file structure as you parse them in memory somewhere.

It sounds like that should be a piece of software worth some $$$.

If I'm wrong here, someone please correct me.

Mickey Baker
Safe Data Services, LLC
Independent Storage Consultant


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Wilkin
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 1:12 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] File listing for Fragment

Ok then,
 
I can identify that the file I'm looking for  is 'x' blocks from the start
of the backup image!, this is the  5th field in the *.f file.  My value is
105001394 for the 5th field.
 
How do I then go 'x' blocks from the start of the backup image on the tape?
I've been using 'mt' and it uses 'files' to count, not 'blocks' as specified
within the *.f file. Should I be using another utility?
 
Thanks
 
Regards 
Andrew Wilkin
Computer Systems Analyst 
Department of Lands
Panorama Ave
BATHURST, NSW, 2795, AUSTRALIA 
Ph: 61 2 6332 8397
Fx: 61 2 6332 8457
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WEB: www.lands.nsw.gov.au http://www.lands.nsw.gov.au 

 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 10 May 2006 8:26 AM
To: Andrew Wilkin
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] File listing for Fragment
No offense, but seeking to a single fragment  reading files is netbackup's
job.  The TOC you describe (associating fragment to file) is the quick
definition of Netbackup's image catalog.  You're starting to write the
application you've already bought.
 
To answer your question, I think you're going to have to mine the catalog
directly for the info you're looking for.  Look under the
/usr/openv/netbackup/db/images/client/timestamp/imagename.f files for
the file to frag info.  If you're using the binary catalog, you'll have to
convert them.
 
-M


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Cashman
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 2:53 PM
To: Andrew Wilkin
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] File listing for Fragment
Try bpimagelist -backupid (backup_id)

Steve
 
On 5/5/06, Andrew Wilkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Hi All,
 
I'm after a away to extract the files that are contained within an
individual BackupId that has multiple Fragments (File number on a Tape).
 
If I have a single backup image and it spans many Fragments / File
Numbers, on the media, is there a way to extract a listing's of those files
from a single Fragment/File Number using a single backup id, though the are
multiple Fragments for that single backup? (sorry but I've repeated myself
here!) 
 
I know I can get a complete listing of a specific backup using bpmedialist
and give the backup id etc. But using the Images on Media control( from the
GUI), I can see the multiple Fragments on the Tape with the File Numbers, so
there must be a way somehow to relate this back into the NetBackup DataBase
to use it! 
 
This has come about from an historic NDMP system I've had to recover from
and for the particular directory, they are 27 Fragments, and I know how to

[Veritas-bu] Status: 525 Can not connect to NB-Java

2006-05-11 Thread Yosifovski, Tammy
Title: Status: 525 Can not connect to NB-Java






Solaris 10, NB 6.0


Receiving the following error when using jnbSA.


Unable to login, status: 525 

Can not connect to the NB-Java authentication service via VNETD on server name on port 13724. Check the log file for more details. 


Log file States:


ServerInterface:Logon: java.net.ConnectException: Incompatible VNETD version: .

ServerInterface:Logon - Initial host:null, Current host:migrrufsmc82, Firewall Env:true, MS port:13722, VNET

D:13724, m_intPort:0, localPort:0, range use:false

Can not connect to the NB-Java authentication service via VNETD on migrrufsmc82 on port 13724. Exception:

java.net.ConnectException: Incompatible VNETD version: .

ServerInterface:Logon: java.net.ConnectException: Incompatible VNETD version: .

ServerInterface:Logon - Initial host:null, Current host:migrrufsmc82, Firewall Env:true, MS port:13722, VNET

D:13724, m_intPort:0, localPort:0, range use:false

Can not connect to the NB-Java authentication service via VNETD on migrrufsmc82 on port 13724. Exception:

java.net.ConnectException: Incompatible VNETD version: .



There are not any firewalls to block the port. 


Your help is appreciated. 


Tammy Yosifovski



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[Veritas-bu] Host properties from command line?

2006-05-11 Thread Dave Lowenstein
Is there a way from the command line on solaris with nbu 4.5 fp3 to 
get a client list including the version of each netbackup client? I 
can look under jnbSA and go to host properties-clients and 
individually click on clients to see their version but any attempts 
to export this data are crashing jnbSA.


I'm looking for something like the output of bpplclients with the 
version of the client software included.


Can this be done?
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[Veritas-bu] command to list clients in policy [is there one ?] - NBU6.0

2006-05-11 Thread Wilkinson, Alex
Hi all,

Is there any command out there to list all clients within a single policy ?
In HP DataProtector I am able to grep through text files for this.
How about NBU 6.0MP2 ?

 -aW
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Re: [Veritas-bu] bpcoverage - FYI

2006-05-11 Thread Wilkinson, Alex
0n Thu, May 11, 2006 at 02:42:37PM +0100, Whelan, Patrick wrote: 

I thought I would pass this on in case anyone else has run into it. 

Environment:
Solaris Master 5.1MP4
HP-UX Media Servers 5.1MP4

If, in the policy, you specify a windows drive with a lower case letter
(i.e. c:\ ) instead of an upper case (i.e. C:\ ) bpcoverage (after you
get it to work [see archive for this one]) will report the drive as
uncovered. I changed all the drives to upper case and now it works find.
Just thought I pass it along.

bpcoverage does what exactly ?

Got a URL to the thread to make it work ?

 -aW
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