[Veritas-bu] Status 13 on Shadow copy components

2006-05-30 Thread ida3248b
Hello All

I keep getting status 13 on Shadow Copy Components on my NBU 5.1MP4 master 
server, actually the job gives 13 and then rerun with status 1 partial 
successfully.

The support site didn't give anything.

Any ideas/suggestions ?

Regards
Michael
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[Veritas-bu] Storage Resource Management

2006-05-30 Thread Martin, Jonathan \(Contractor\)
After some prodding by Management I've been looking into Storage
Resource Management (SRM) tools to assist with monitoring backups,
reporting, troubleshooting etc etc...  Currently under evaluation are
the following three tools which each have their own strengths /
weaknesses and I'm wondering what everyone else is using (if any.)

Bocada Enterprise 4 - http://www.bocada.com/
TEK-TOOLS Profiler for NBU - http://www.tek-tools.com/
WysDM for Backups - http://www.wysdm.com/

-Jonathan

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup on-line agents

2006-05-30 Thread Austin Murphy
This will at least narrow it down to which systems to take a closer look at:

   bpplclients -allunique -pt Oracle
   bpplclients -allunique -pt MS-Exchange-Server

I don't know the exact policy type for SAP, prob. just SAP.

Austin


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 Oracle, Exchange?

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Storage Resource Management

2006-05-30 Thread Greenberg, Katherine A
Also, FWIW, I wouldn't view any of the below products as SRM tools... in
the general sense of how I would define SRM. 

A backup monitoring tool, yes. SRM, no.

That said, I second Ed's sentiment on Aptare Storage Console. It's a
great product. It's as *real time* as you're ever going to get (when a
backup ends, the info is sent from the master to the Aptare server, not
polled like most of the others are) and the support is great.

~Kate


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On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 08:52:16AM -0400, Martin, Jonathan (Contractor)
wrote:
 After some prodding by Management I've been looking into Storage 
 Resource Management (SRM) tools to assist with monitoring backups, 
 reporting, troubleshooting etc etc...  Currently under evaluation are 
 the following three tools which each have their own strengths / 
 weaknesses and I'm wondering what everyone else is using (if any.)
 
 Bocada Enterprise 4 - http://www.bocada.com/
 TEK-TOOLS Profiler for NBU - http://www.tek-tools.com/
 WysDM for Backups - http://www.wysdm.com/

Aptare StorageConsole - http://www.aptare.com

I did a head-to-head comparison against Bocada and it wasn't even close
- StorageConsole won by a long shot.  Their support is top-notch - when
I wanted to upgrade my release last week, they set up a Webex to my
workstation and walked me through it.  Not that I couldn't have done it
by myself, but it guaranteed that it was working properly by the time I
was done.  When it came up, Graeme showed me some of the new features
right away.  

StorageConsole supports both NetBackup and TSM but I haven't used any of
the TSM pieces so I have no idea how well they work.

.../Ed

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Migration Documentation NBU 5.x - NBU 6.0

2006-05-30 Thread Greenberg, Katherine A
There is a Symantec training class for this. I took it. It was mediocre,
at best, but the documentation was worth the pain of 2 days in class.

The class covers both Windows and UNIX. Goes over all the new features,
how to upgrade, the new logging and database, EMM (and all its
components) and a bit about NOM as well.

~Kate



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Hello All,

I am desperatly looking for a guidline on Migration to Netbackup 6.0. I
cannot find anything on the Symantec Page. Does anybody have such a
documentation or a link to it?

Thanks in advance for providing.

Martin

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[Veritas-bu] NBU 5.1 MP4 - Windows clients generating big VSP files

2006-05-30 Thread Covington, Garrett


I have been working a few cases with Veritas about this issue...

Here is a way to delete the vsp temp files WITHOUT a reboot!!

To delete the VSP temp files without a reboot.
 

2. This is the tool to manually remove the tmp files left over.
http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/procexp.shtml

Process Explorer Usage to remove the cache file:
1) Expand System Idle Process
2) Select and highlight System , you will notice in the bottom half of the
screen will populate with a list of all the processes that are running under
the System account.
3) Sort the Name Field by name and scroll down till you see the entries that
start with \Device\VSPSnapshot0\_vxfiVspCacheFile_1.tmp (depending on the
number of drives, you may find more then one mapping in the list that use
the same naming convention)
4) Highlight the first \Device\VSPSnapshot0\_vxfiVspCacheFile_1.tmp, right
click and select Close Handle
5) Next, highlight the associated system handle that physically shows the
drive letter association. Please note, in step 3 we chose
\Device\VSPSnapshot0, normally this should map to the first volume in your
backup selection C:\_vxfiVspCacheFile_1.tmp
** Note: You may find that once the Handle has been closed the system may
become unresponsive for a short time, this most likely is due to the temp
cache being released back to system.
6) Once you've selected the Close Handle option from the drop down menu, you
may then delete the associated TMP file which exist will exist on the root
of the drive in question


Thanks,

 

Garrett Covington

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[Veritas-bu] Email Archiving

2006-05-30 Thread Martin, Jonathan \(Contractor\)
Well I'll be damned, I need some more information!  Our messaging
administrator (glorified Exchange admin) recently approached management
about Email Archiving, and I've got until tomorrow to become a guru on
Veritas Enterprise Vault.  I guess because it says Veritas that makes
it my job, but I've only barely heard of the product, much less read the
documentation etc... Can someone give me a quick run down of its
capabilities in regards to Email Archiving for Exchange?  Anybody out
there running it?  How does it integrate with NBU?  Do you think
management's dumb enough that if I call it Symantec Enterprise Vault I
can somehow get it off my plate?

Thanks as always,

-Jonathan

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[Veritas-bu] Netbackup 3.4.1 upgrade to 6.0 ?

2006-05-30 Thread Darren J. Wise
Hi All,

I've had a quick look through the archives and didn't find any
relating to my problem.

We are looking at updating our Solaris 5.8, Netbackup 3.4.1 install
with a Sun L20 with two DLT8000 drives attached to the latest
version of Netbackup v6.

I believe I found a document that said I would need to upgrade to
4.5 first as Netbackup 5 ( at the time ) didn't support the 3.4.1
catalogue. 

Can any body confirm this for me

Thanks for your time

Darren
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 3.4.1 upgrade to 6.0 ?

2006-05-30 Thread Dave Carpe
That is correct, you do have to upgrade your 3.4.1 Servers to NBU 4.5
before going to 5.X and the 6.0. Clients of course can go straight to
6.0, as long as the OS version is still supported.

Here is the document that explains what is supported:

http://support.veritas.com/docs/264767



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Hi All,

I've had a quick look through the archives and didn't find any
relating to my problem.

We are looking at updating our Solaris 5.8, Netbackup 3.4.1 install
with a Sun L20 with two DLT8000 drives attached to the latest
version of Netbackup v6.

I believe I found a document that said I would need to upgrade to
4.5 first as Netbackup 5 ( at the time ) didn't support the 3.4.1
catalogue. 

Can any body confirm this for me

Thanks for your time

Darren
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[Veritas-bu] VTL Webinar hosted by Sepaton - June 7th

2006-05-30 Thread alex.gerber
Hello Everyone,

Just wanted to let you know that Sepaton (My choice for VTL Vendor for 3 
years), will be hosting a Webinar on Benefits of Disk-Based Data Protection: 
Present and Future.

We own a 68 Tb unit - very happy with both the product and vendor. 

BTW - VP of Gartner will be featured.

Here is the link

http://sepaton.com/survey/survey.php?/gartnerwebinar

Alex Gerber
Sr. UNIX Systems Admin
Sepracor Inc.
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[Veritas-bu] NetBackup 5.1 Windows master at 32 bit and NetBackup 5.1 media servers at 64 bit

2006-05-30 Thread Patricia Harmon


I have NetBackup running5.1 MP4 onWindows master and media servers. I am upgrading the 
media servers hardware only and would like to use 64 bit. Does anyone know if this is supported 
or know of problems?I see from the release notes 64 bit is supported on Windows but I don't 
know if a media server can be at higher OS level than themaster server. 

Thanks for any help.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Email Archiving

2006-05-30 Thread Steve . Bally

Jonathan,

We just returned from training on the
product. We are going to use it for file archiving and then use it
for exchange when we migrate from notes. It is certainly and exchange
centric product, it does integrate with NBU, there are allot of caveats.

I can say this, if it is not setup correctly,
you can seriously cause some havoc with peoples email.

Regards,

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RadiSys Corporation
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Well I'll be damned, I need some more information!
Our messaging
administrator (glorified Exchange admin) recently approached management
about Email Archiving, and I've got until tomorrow to become a guru on
Veritas Enterprise Vault. I guess because it says Veritas
that makes
it my job, but I've only barely heard of the product, much less read the
documentation etc... Can someone give me a quick run down of its
capabilities in regards to Email Archiving for Exchange? Anybody
out
there running it? How does it integrate with NBU? Do you think
management's dumb enough that if I call it Symantec Enterprise Vault
I
can somehow get it off my plate?

Thanks as always,

-Jonathan

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[Veritas-bu] SSO question

2006-05-30 Thread Paul Keating
Title: Message



Assuming you have 
several tapes drives share among several media servers.

ie, 10 drives and 3 
servers.

if you configure 
each server to see all 10 drives and then configure a STU on each server to use 
a max of 4 drives, you will encounter situations where there is demand for as 
many as 12 drives..In the instance where 2 of the media servers 
eachreserve 4 drives and the third server has only 2 drives available to 
it, does this cause all the jobsqueuedon this third server to fail 
with status 134??? I'm thinking that CAN'T be the caseif so, SSO would be 
pointless as you would only be able to create STU's to use a total global max of 
the number of physical drive you have, in which case you may as well do fixed 
assignments, and not SSO.

Sorry if this seems 
like a stupid questionI'm not using SSO at the moment, and don't have the 
resources to suss it out in the lab, and I'm expecting to be deploying two 
additional media servers in June.

Paul


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[Veritas-bu] remove devices from dead media server

2006-05-30 Thread Paul Keating
Title: Message



ok.on a roll 
with stupid questions today.

I had a media server 
in my lab, and once it was built up,and functionality tested, it just got 
torn down and moved.
So I removed the 
storage units, and policys and the media server references in the master server 
preferences, but I forgot to remove the actual drives that were 
attached/configured on the media serverso now the media server is gone and 
the master still has references to the devicesanytime I try to access them, 
the GUI just spins trying to contact the missing media server, and tpconfig on 
the master doesn't show the devices..what's the quick and dirty way to get 
rid of the devices from the master?




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Re: [Veritas-bu] SSO question

2006-05-30 Thread Spearman, David
Title: Message




Paul, 
we do use SSO, with one master and one media server, but we also throw ndmp in 
the mix. We do indeed limit the total count of our master and media servers to 
the drives actually available, 4 drives on the master and 6 on the media server. 
However, since the two servers can see all 10 drives they just choose whichever 
drive is available. As long as the policies are set to use "any available 
server" then the jobs will go to whichever one can grab a drive. If all the 
drives are busy the jobsgo into the queue. Our point to doing it this way 
was to split the load over two separate gig-e pipes to the fiber where the the 
drives live in such a way that NBU took care of 
the details of how the data gets there. With NDMP we have it set to use 
paths available only on the master server, that's just to keep it from confusing 
the hell out of me. (Since we use 6mp2 ndmp allows us to use 
SSO)

David 
Spearman
County 
of Henrico,Va.

  
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  KeatingSent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 3:03 PMTo: 
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  question
  Assuming you have 
  several tapes drives share among several media servers.
  
  ie, 10 drives and 
  3 servers.
  
  if you configure 
  each server to see all 10 drives and then configure a STU on each server to 
  use a max of 4 drives, you will encounter situations where there is demand for 
  as many as 12 drives..In the instance where 2 of the media servers 
  eachreserve 4 drives and the third server has only 2 drives available to 
  it, does this cause all the jobsqueuedon this third server to fail 
  with status 134??? I'm thinking that CAN'T be the caseif so, SSO would be 
  pointless as you would only be able to create STU's to use a total global max 
  of the number of physical drive you have, in which case you may as well do 
  fixed assignments, and not SSO.
  
  Sorry if this 
  seems like a stupid questionI'm not using SSO at the moment, and don't 
  have the resources to suss it out in the lab, and I'm expecting to be 
  deploying two additional media servers in June.
  
  Paul
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Re: [Veritas-bu] SSO question

2006-05-30 Thread Carlisle, D Renee
Title: Message



No, the other jobs would just queue if a tape drive wasn't 
available. Once one of the other jobs finishes on any tape drive, the job 
would pick up and load a tape.




Reneé 
Carlisle Sr. 
Systems Administrator675 Basket 
RoadWebster, NY 
14580 

Jer 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul 
KeatingSent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 3:03 PMTo: 
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] SSO 
question

Assuming you have 
several tapes drives share among several media servers.

ie, 10 drives and 3 
servers.

if you configure 
each server to see all 10 drives and then configure a STU on each server to use 
a max of 4 drives, you will encounter situations where there is demand for as 
many as 12 drives..In the instance where 2 of the media servers 
eachreserve 4 drives and the third server has only 2 drives available to 
it, does this cause all the jobsqueuedon this third server to fail 
with status 134??? I'm thinking that CAN'T be the caseif so, SSO would be 
pointless as you would only be able to create STU's to use a total global max of 
the number of physical drive you have, in which case you may as well do fixed 
assignments, and not SSO.

Sorry if this seems 
like a stupid questionI'm not using SSO at the moment, and don't have the 
resources to suss it out in the lab, and I'm expecting to be deploying two 
additional media servers in June.

Paul




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Re: [Veritas-bu] remove devices from dead media server

2006-05-30 Thread Carlisle, D Renee
Title: Message



You need to remove it from the Global Device Database (I am 
assuming you are not on 6.0 yet). Go to Media and Device management, and 
expand hosts. Click on the decommissioned media server (just click on stop 
or cancel if it is trying to contact the media server). Go to the window 
with the tape drives, highlight them, right click and then delete. After 
that you should be able to right click on the media server name and click remove 
device host. You may be able to just remove the device host directly 
without removing the drives first, I just like to make sure it is clean. I 
am also assuming you have moved any tapes owned by that media server to a new 
host?




Reneé 
Carlisle Sr. 
Systems Administrator675 Basket 
RoadWebster, NY 
14580 

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from dead media server

ok.on a roll 
with stupid questions today.

I had a media server 
in my lab, and once it was built up,and functionality tested, it just got 
torn down and moved.
So I removed the 
storage units, and policys and the media server references in the master server 
preferences, but I forgot to remove the actual drives that were 
attached/configured on the media serverso now the media server is gone and 
the master still has references to the devicesanytime I try to access them, 
the GUI just spins trying to contact the missing media server, and tpconfig on 
the master doesn't show the devices..what's the quick and dirty way to get 
rid of the devices from the master?






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Re: [Veritas-bu] Catalog Inconsistency with DSSU

2006-05-30 Thread Ambrose, Monte
Veritas made a change in the consistency check - I think at 5.1 MP4
where it will actually move the image to a temporary holding place if it
thinks it is bad.  Incidentally if you have any jobs running it will
also kill the jobs because it thinks the image is bad. I am wondering if
it tried to do anything with the images for the disk backups?  

I know you aren't supposed to run the consistency while a backup is
running but I have some 24/7 masters.  I asked VERITAS engineering to
provide a consistency check that runs while backups are running or at
least provide an option to not move images.

Monte

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Catalog Inconsistency with DSSU

Paul-

Bottom Line: What you are seeing is nothing to worry about.
This is a cosmetic bug in the bpdbm -consistency 2 command.

What's happening is, bpdbm is encountering the pseudo-images that are 
part of the DSSU relocation operation.  (you can tell from the 
__DSSU_POLICY_ prefix...)

These are NOT normal backup images, but bpdbm -consistency doesn't seem 
to know that and so it reports errors as if they were normal backup 
images.

I am pretty certain this behavior has already been fixed in one of the 
most recent patch releases.

HTH
rob

On May 26, 2006, at 11:31 AM, Esson, Paul wrote:

 Folks,



 I have a 5.0 MP4 installation on a Windows 2000 SP4 server that has a
 SATA array attached and configured for disk staging.  Backups appear
to
 be working okay but I ran a bpdbm -consistency 2 check recently in
 preparation for a proposed upgrade to v5.1 and have discovered the
 following for which I cannot find any reference on the Symantec web
 site.  Has any one got any thoughts as to what has occurred here?  
 There
 are multiple entries of this type for a number of images.



 checking image file __DSSU_POLICY_unix_full_1147475093_FULL

 PRIMARY_COPY is set to an invalid copy

 EXPIRATION is not set to the next valid copy to expire



 Regards,



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Re: [Veritas-bu] remove devices from dead media server

2006-05-30 Thread Ambrose, Monte
Title: Message








Sometimes you have to remove the entry
from the /usr/openv/volmgr/database/robotic_def file as well



Monte











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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] remove
devices from dead media server





You need to remove it from the Global
Device Database (I am assuming you are not on 6.0 yet). Go to Media and
Device management, and expand hosts. Click on the decommissioned media
server (just click on stop or cancel if it is trying to contact the media
server). Go to the window with the tape drives, highlight them, right
click and then delete. After that you should be able to right click on
the media server name and click remove device host. You may be able to
just remove the device host directly without removing the drives first, I just
like to make sure it is clean. I am also assuming you have moved any
tapes owned by that media server to a new host?















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Subject: [Veritas-bu] remove
devices from dead media server



ok.on a roll with stupid questions today.











I had a media server in my lab, and once it was built
up,and functionality tested, it just got torn down and moved.





So I removed the storage units, and policys and the media
server references in the master server preferences, but I forgot to remove the
actual drives that were attached/configured on the media serverso now the
media server is gone and the master still has references to the
devicesanytime I try to access them, the GUI just spins trying to contact
the missing media server, and tpconfig on the master doesn't show the
devices..what's the quick and dirty way to get rid of the devices from the
master?






















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[Veritas-bu] NBU6 and Windows remote installation

2006-05-30 Thread Wilkinson, Tim



I've been testing to 
see if it's possible to deploy multiple clients remotely from the same session 
but it's not looking good. I've come across some strange issues with 
authentication on the remote clients.
In my test 
environment, I've got a Windows 2003 box and a Windows 2000 box. Both have 
exactly the same local admin password and both have the exact same domain 
accounts as local admins. However, when I go through the remote deployment and 
am prompted for the account to use to install on the remote system, I'm told 
that I'm connected with an account other than the one I use, despite having just 
rebooted both servers and not having connected to either of 
them.
Sometimes the 
account I want to use works and sometimes it doesn't and although it may not be 
random, it seems to be quite random at times.
Ideally I'd like to 
do it this way, because it's obviously alot more convenient to roll-out more 
than one client at a time; has anyone had a play with this and what's been the 
general conclusion?

Cheers,

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  Corporate Information Systems Defence 
  Science  Technology Organisation Department of Defence 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 5.1 Windows master at 32 bit and NetBackup 5.1 media servers at 64 bit

2006-05-30 Thread Ed Wilts
On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 02:38:16PM -0400, Patricia Harmon wrote:
 I have  NetBackup running 5.1 MP4 on Windows master and media servers.
 I am upgrading the media servers hardware only and would like to use
 64 bit.  Does anyone know if this is supported or know of problems? I
 see from the release notes 64 bit is supported on Windows but I don't
 know if a media server can be at higher OS level than the master
 server. 

This is not supported.  64-bit is only supported for clients on 5.1, not
media servers.  To have 64-bit media servers, you'll need to upgrade to
6.0.  This is what we're doing for the same reason...

.../Ed

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