[Veritas-bu] (no subject)
Hello all, I'm running NB 6.0 MP4 on Windows 2003. When i try to backup a client that is turned off the backup failes with an error 58, can't connect to client. That's obvious. But Netbackup retries that backup over and over again within some hours. (f.e. 20 times within 2 hours) On the Master Server we left de default setting of backup retries 2 times in 12 hours. I also have the same behavior with succesful backups. Sometimes Netbackup will start the same backup several times within a specific schedule. So í'll end up with 5 or 6 succesfully completed backups. Anyone having the same problems/experience? _ See what you’re getting into…before you go there. http://newlivehotmail.com___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] (no subject)
I also have the same behavior with succesful backups. Sometimes Netbackup will start the same backup several times within a specific schedule. So í'll end up with 5 or 6 succesfully completed backups. This is known bug. Ask for a fix or wait for MP5. Maybe the failed backups have the same problem _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rolf C Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 2:21 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] (no subject) Hello all, I'm running NB 6.0 MP4 on Windows 2003. When i try to backup a client that is turned off the backup failes with an error 58, can't connect to client. That's obvious. But Netbackup retries that backup over and over again within some hours. (f.e. 20 times within 2 hours) On the Master Server we left de default setting of backup retries 2 times in 12 hours. I also have the same behavior with succesful backups. Sometimes Netbackup will start the same backup several times within a specific schedule. So í'll end up with 5 or 6 succesfully completed backups. Anyone having the same problems/experience? _ See what youre getting into before you go there. Check it out! http://newlivehotmail.com ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Audit time again, need NetBackup backup success or failure history.
We are under SOX auditing, and we give our auditors our daily backup reports for certain days they request. They seem to be happy with this information... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 8:52 PM To: BeDour, Wayne Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Audit time again, need NetBackup backup success or failure history. You can either show up client backup images (bpimagelist): this will server as proof of backups being done to client on specific date in question (provided images do exists) Else perform simple restore for the client from requested date cheers Sami BeDour, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Sent by: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu veritas-bu-bounce cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] urn.edu Subject [Veritas-bu] Audit time again, need NetBackup backup success or 03/07/2007 05:57 failure history. AM Our environment is HP-UX 11.11, Netbackup 5.1 MP3 backing up mostly HP unix with some Sun and Windows backups. It's audit time again and the auditors are asking for validation that a backup ran 6 months ago. They give me the date and machine / policy and want me to come up with proof that it was successful. We are running Advanced Reporter but don't keep logs that old. Obviously we do not run any other third party reporting application such as Aptare but may be in the market in the future. I have been going through the manual but have yet to come up with how to get that info from NetBackup or if it is even available at this time. Any help will be appreciated. thanks Wayne BeDour IT Unix System Administrator PH: 313-240-3374 FAX: 313-240-3065 Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** ** LEGAL DISCLAIMER ** ** This E-mail message and any attachments may contain legally privileged, confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this message to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this E-mail message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete this E-mail message from your computer. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu National Australia Bank Ltd - ABN 12 004 044 937 This email may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please immediately notify us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or by replying to the sender, and then destroy all copies of this email. Except where this email indicates otherwise, views expressed in this email are those of the sender and not of National Australia Bank Ltd. Advice in this email does not take account of your objectives, financial situation, or needs. It is important for you to consider these matters and, if the e-mail refers to a product(s), you should read the relevant Product Disclosure Statement(s)/other disclosure document(s) before making any decisions. If you do not want email marketing from us in future, forward this email with unsubscribe in the subject line to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in order to stop marketing emails from this sender. National Australia Bank Ltd does not represent that this email is free of errors, viruses or interference. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] 3rd Party Support [NC]
I second on this. Symantec support is awfull. I feel like they dragg engineer's assignment for every ticket I open, so the issue will go away on it's own or all related log files will expire. This is not acceptable.. xman30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/29/2007 10:00 AM Please respond to VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu To VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject [Veritas-bu] Re: 3rd Party Support I don't use a 3rd party vendor but I'm not especially happy with Veritas'/Symantec's support. I've had critical tickets open and they were passed from the US support center, to the Australian support center, to the UK support center with no resolution. In most cases I resolve the issues myself so a 3rd party vendor is worth investigating. Thanks +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu * This message and any attachments (the message) are confidential and intended solely for the addressees. Any unauthorised use or dissemination is prohibited. E-mails are susceptible to alteration. Neither SOCIETE GENERALE nor any of its subsidiaries or affiliates shall be liable for the message if altered, changed or falsified. * ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Netbackup Ver 6.0 [latest maint update]
Hi Is MP4 the latest maint update for Veritas Netbackup Ver 6.0? I have seen folks talking about Netbackup Ver 6.5 on this forum?? Is that available for download from Symantec website if yes can someone please provide the link...to navigate that site to get something useful is such a pain Also is this place http://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/ not updated anymore with updates and patches. I used to get the patches and updates from this site for Netbackup and now I cannot seem to find anything latest on this site maybe I am missing something. Please let me know and thanks in advance Sandeep ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] 3rd Party Support [NC]
3rd here. I keep a log of all my tickets... Its really a mixed bag of everything from Symantec Support being completely useless / I have to support myself to on one occasion I spoke to a NBU / RMAN Guru. I guess my issue with the logs is that their standard response is, send me some logs, I'll hash it out for a week and email you back. Sometimes I just want to have a chat about the scenario, and what's going wrong - but they don't seem to have any working knowledge of the product. They sure can comb through logs and find errors there though (if you've got a while to wait.) I think before we get to the logs, I'd prefer to ask someone whose done it before about the problem I'm having to see if they've got a better way to do it, or any gotchas. Normally that is this list here. And when I do have a genuine problem (like destaging) I never get any of these Engineering Binaries everyone else gets. I'm always told to wait for next release. /sigh Thankfully my environments are more or less stable now. -J -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 8:53 AM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] 3rd Party Support [NC] I second on this. Symantec support is awfull. I feel like they dragg engineer's assignment for every ticket I open, so the issue will go away on it's own or all related log files will expire. This is not acceptable.. xman30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/29/2007 10:00 AM Please respond to VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu To VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject [Veritas-bu] Re: 3rd Party Support I don't use a 3rd party vendor but I'm not especially happy with Veritas'/Symantec's support. I've had critical tickets open and they were passed from the US support center, to the Australian support center, to the UK support center with no resolution. In most cases I resolve the issues myself so a 3rd party vendor is worth investigating. Thanks +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu * This message and any attachments (the message) are confidential and intended solely for the addressees. Any unauthorised use or dissemination is prohibited. E-mails are susceptible to alteration. Neither SOCIETE GENERALE nor any of its subsidiaries or affiliates shall be liable for the message if altered, changed or falsified. * ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Ver 6.0 [latest maint update]
MP4 is the latest, 6.5 not out until later this year. On Tue, 3 Jul 2007, Bhangui, Sandeep - BLS CTR wrote: Hi Is MP4 the latest maint update for Veritas Netbackup Ver 6.0? I have seen folks talking about Netbackup Ver 6.5 on this forum?? Is that available for download from Symantec website if yes can someone please provide the link...to navigate that site to get something useful is such a pain Also is this place http://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/ not updated anymore with updates and patches. I used to get the patches and updates from this site for Netbackup and now I cannot seem to find anything latest on this site maybe I am missing something. Please let me know and thanks in advance Sandeep ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] A Better Way?
I'm working on our scripting that automates some NBU functions. One thing we currently do is keep a list of exported tapes (don't use vault and do our own offsite storage). One thing I'm looking at doing is appending the Volume Pool to the tape barcode in the file. That way, we can make sure all the usual suspects are running. From what I know and what I've found, the only way to do this is with vmquery -m MEDIAID. The output, however, is not what I'm looking for. I can work around it, but is there a terser output that anyone knows of? Or another way to get the pool for a particular tape? Thanks, Jason Jason Brooks Computer Systems Engineer IITS - Longwood University voice - (434) 395-2034 fax - (434) 395-2035 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] A Better Way?
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007, Brooks, Jason wrote: I'm working on our scripting that automates some NBU functions. One thing we currently do is keep a list of exported tapes (don't use vault and do our own offsite storage). One thing I'm looking at doing is appending the Volume Pool to the tape barcode in the file. That way, we can make sure all the usual suspects are running. From what I know and what I've found, the only way to do this is with vmquery -m MEDIAID. The output, however, is not what I'm looking for. I can work around it, but is there a terser output that anyone knows of? Or another way to get the pool for a particular tape? Thanks, Jason Jason Brooks Computer Systems Engineer IITS - Longwood University voice - (434) 395-2034 fax - (434) 395-2035 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The output, however, is not what I'm looking for. Like most things in NetBackup you run 1 command to get some output that you need to then use in another command, and so on, until you get to what you're looking for. Justin. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] A Better Way?
The perl script I have for this runs vmcheckxxx -rt tld -rn 0 -rh $nbu_master -h $nbu_master to get the output of all tapes in the lbirary bpimmedia -L -mediaid $media -M $nbu_master To parse the images on each tape / then sort to find the expiration of the last image and then vmquery -m $media To attach the volume pool. The generated report looks something like XX0001, OFFSITE-VAULT, 2/1/2008 XX0002, OFFSITE-DR, 3/23/2008 XX0003, OFFSITE-VAULT, 2/4/2008 XX0004, OFFSITE-VAULT, 2/9/2008 Etc... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brooks, Jason Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 9:24 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] A Better Way? I'm working on our scripting that automates some NBU functions. One thing we currently do is keep a list of exported tapes (don't use vault and do our own offsite storage). One thing I'm looking at doing is appending the Volume Pool to the tape barcode in the file. That way, we can make sure all the usual suspects are running. From what I know and what I've found, the only way to do this is with vmquery -m MEDIAID. The output, however, is not what I'm looking for. I can work around it, but is there a terser output that anyone knows of? Or another way to get the pool for a particular tape? Thanks, Jason Jason Brooks Computer Systems Engineer IITS - Longwood University voice - (434) 395-2034 fax - (434) 395-2035 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] A Better Way?
Thanks. I'll take a closer look at that. -Original Message- From: Martin, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 9:37 AM To: Brooks, Jason; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] A Better Way? The perl script I have for this runs vmcheckxxx -rt tld -rn 0 -rh $nbu_master -h $nbu_master to get the output of all tapes in the lbirary bpimmedia -L -mediaid $media -M $nbu_master To parse the images on each tape / then sort to find the expiration of the last image and then vmquery -m $media To attach the volume pool. The generated report looks something like XX0001, OFFSITE-VAULT, 2/1/2008 XX0002, OFFSITE-DR, 3/23/2008 XX0003, OFFSITE-VAULT, 2/4/2008 XX0004, OFFSITE-VAULT, 2/9/2008 Etc... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brooks, Jason Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 9:24 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] A Better Way? I'm working on our scripting that automates some NBU functions. One thing we currently do is keep a list of exported tapes (don't use vault and do our own offsite storage). One thing I'm looking at doing is appending the Volume Pool to the tape barcode in the file. That way, we can make sure all the usual suspects are running. From what I know and what I've found, the only way to do this is with vmquery -m MEDIAID. The output, however, is not what I'm looking for. I can work around it, but is there a terser output that anyone knows of? Or another way to get the pool for a particular tape? Thanks, Jason Jason Brooks Computer Systems Engineer IITS - Longwood University voice - (434) 395-2034 fax - (434) 395-2035 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Ver 6.0 [latest maint update] (fwd)
Some useful information from Ed. Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Ver 6.0 [latest maint update] 6.0 MP5 is targeted for July 20. 6.5 is a new release - not a maintenance pak for 6.0 - and is targeted for August 2. I can't cc the verituas-bu list from this account :-( .../Ed -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Original message -- From: Justin Piszcz [EMAIL PROTECTED] MP4 is the latest, 6.5 not out until later this year. On Tue, 3 Jul 2007, Bhangui, Sandeep - BLS CTR wrote: Is MP4 the latest maint update for Veritas Netbackup Ver 6.0? I have seen folks talking about Netbackup Ver 6.5 on this forum?? ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Ver 6.0 [latest maint update]
Yeap, the 6.5 version will be released soon this year, that's why we cannot talk much for this version.. :P If you want to easily found the patches, go here: http://www.symantec.com/enterprise/support/downloads.jsp?pid=15143 If there is a new patches, you'll found it on the list.. :D Regards, mTz On 7/3/07, Justin Piszcz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MP4 is the latest, 6.5 not out until later this year. On Tue, 3 Jul 2007, Bhangui, Sandeep - BLS CTR wrote: Hi Is MP4 the latest maint update for Veritas Netbackup Ver 6.0? I have seen folks talking about Netbackup Ver 6.5 on this forum?? Is that available for download from Symantec website if yes can someone please provide the link...to navigate that site to get something useful is such a pain Also is this place http://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/ not updated anymore with updates and patches. I used to get the patches and updates from this site for Netbackup and now I cannot seem to find anything latest on this site maybe I am missing something. Please let me know and thanks in advance Sandeep ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Catalog Migration versus Import
Hi Martin, My suggestion is, you adding the DLT tape drives to the new library (If you have enough drive slots and the bracket offcourse). This will be more..more.. make your life simple.. :) If you cannot added the DLT drives, can you attach that DLT drive(s) as stand alone drive(s) to the master or media server on your existing NBU 6.0environment? So you can run duplicate from the standalone drive(s) to the LTO drives (library) with the existing NBU 6.0. (Don't forget to initiate, and importing the image). That's why a 3rd party supports needed.. :Peace: :LOL: regards, mTz On 7/3/07, Martin, Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I preformed a clean install of 6.0MP4 at a data center, and left their old 5.1 MP4 environment behind for restore quests. Its been a year, and we want to decommission the old 5.1 master. Most backups have expired, but there are 16 or so tapes, with long retention data that frequently needs to be restored. My options are 1 - Upgrade the 5.1 machine to 6.0 and then migrate what's left of the catalog to the new 6.0 master. Duplicate old images to new media. 2 - Attach the old library to the new master, import the 16 DLT media, and then duplicate the images to LTO. Either way its going to be a pain. Any suggestions? -Jonathan PS: Option #3 - Don't archive to tape data that frequently needs to be restored isn't an option /sigh ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] A Better Way?
Jason,
The command I use to parse the vmquery output is:
vmquery -bx -a
or
vmquery -bx -m media id
Sample: vmquery -bx -a | tail +4 | awk '{ print $1 $14 }'
Mike
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] A Better Way?
I'm working on our scripting that automates some NBU functions. One
thing
we currently do is keep a list of exported tapes (don't use vault and do
our
own offsite storage). One thing I'm looking at doing is appending the
Volume Pool to the tape barcode in the file. That way, we can make sure
all
the usual suspects are running.
From what I know and what I've found, the only way to do this is with
vmquery -m MEDIAID. The output, however, is not what I'm looking for.
I
can work around it, but is there a terser output that anyone knows of?
Or
another way to get the pool for a particular tape?
Thanks,
Jason
Jason Brooks
Computer Systems Engineer
IITS - Longwood University
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Re: [Veritas-bu] A Better Way?
Rather than mess with volume labels, why not use one of the fields that Vault would have used? Even using the tape description field would be better than messing with the bar code field ... but maybe I don't understand what you're trying to do. cheers, wayne Brooks, Jason wrote, in part, on 2007-07-03 9:24 AM: I'm working on our scripting that automates some NBU functions. One thing we currently do is keep a list of exported tapes (don't use vault and do our own offsite storage). One thing I'm looking at doing is appending the Volume Pool to the tape barcode in the file. That way, we can make sure all the usual suspects are running. From what I know and what I've found, the only way to do this is with vmquery -m MEDIAID. The output, however, is not what I'm looking for. I can work around it, but is there a terser output that anyone knows of? Or another way to get the pool for a particular tape? Thanks, Jason Jason Brooks Computer Systems Engineer IITS - Longwood University voice - (434) 395-2034 fax - (434) 395-2035 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] questions regarding upgrade to 6.0
Dear Guys, 2 questions regarding upgrade to NBU 6.0. 1) Someone has told me before, that if we want to upgrade a media server that contain Oracle database, then during the NBU upgrade progress, the Oracle instances and services need to be stopped. Which mean downtime on the database. The reason is because when we upgrade to 6.0, the NBU oracle agent is also being upgrade, so the oracle should be down. I had a little doubt here, because as long as I know, the oracle agent on NBU was a different thing from the Oracle database, I mean separated, and only communicate each other when there was a hot backup on that Oracle database. Please verify bout this things.. Because I'm not sure I can shutdown the oracle during the upgrade progress.. :( Eventough I know that's ok if we still run the media server on 5.x, meanwhile the master was running on 6.0. 2) Did PBX (on ICS package) need to be installed on media server also? A little bit confusion here, as far as I read the manual, it's not telling us to install to the media server, but also don't tell us not to install to media server.. :LOL: Ok guys, hope to hear from you soon. -- Best Regards, mTz ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] VTL with NDMP
I am doing some research to see if a VTL will help my NDMP performance. Currently I backup my Net App environment over the LAN. I am looking to improve backup and restore performance. I have a LTO-3 Tape library that can be fiber attached to the Net App filer. My concern is that the Net App filer will not be able to stream to the tape drives and I will kill my performance since the tape will have to do lots of re-positioning and start and stop. I was thinking a VTL would be able to match the speed of the net app box thus the performance would be optimized. Questions: I have newer and older Net App boxes, assuming a 2GB san, what performance can I expect using NDMP? Do you see an advantage using VTL in place of multiple LTO-3 drives? How many streams are possible (Using NBU 6.x)? Do the number of streams help in a VTL environment? how about a tape environment? Any recommendations on performance tuning with NBU 6 and NDMP? Thanks in advance! Paul Kenny +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Re: getservbyname failed during offline catalog backup
Well I suppose you could test the DNS theory with /etc/hosts file entries. When I deployed Netbackup internal DNS was a nightmare. I still have to use /etc/hosts entries for some hosts. +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] VTL with NDMP
I have a LTO-3 Tape library that can be fiber attached to the Net App filer. My concern is that the Net App filer will not be able to stream to the tape drives and I will kill my performance since the tape will have to do lots of re-positioning and start and stop. It does heart my good to see somebody thinking about these things. I believe you are probably right. I was thinking a VTL would be able to match the speed of the net app box thus the performance would be optimized. That would be correct, sir! I have newer and older Net App boxes, assuming a 2GB san, what performance can I expect using NDMP? YMMV. It's a dump thing. Do you see an advantage using VTL in place of multiple LTO-3 drives? Oh, yeah. NDMP is one of the best uses of VTL. Give each filer as many tape drives as it wants and you don't have to share. Awesome. How many streams are possible (Using NBU 6.x)? Do the number of streams help in a VTL environment? how about a tape environment? 1 per drive. That's also an NDMP thing. Any recommendations on performance tuning with NBU 6 and NDMP? Other than filer filesystem and volume constructioin (and more RAM/CPU), there's not much to do. There's NOTHING to do on the NetBackup side. It's all about the filer, the data, and dump. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Windows 2003 Master with 2 nics
Hi, I have a Windows 2003 Master server with 2 nics and each with their own IP address. They are each configured in different DNS domains. When I run bpclntcmd -hn [masterserver] , it comes back with 2 ip addresses, ie: bpclntcmd -hn abcdefghijkl host abcdefghijkl: abcdefghijkl.junkA.COM at 16.1.1.10 (0) host abcdefghijkl: abcdefghijkl.junkA.COM at 16.1.1.120 (0) But if I do per IP address, then I get the following: bpclntcmd -ip 16.1.1.120 checkhaddr: host : abcdefghijkl: abcdefghijkl.junkB.com at 16.1.1.120 (0) checkhaddr: aliases: and bpclntcmd -ip 16.1.1.10 checkhaddr: host : abcdefghi-BK: abcdefghi-BK.junkC.com at 16.1.1.10 (0) checkhaddr: aliases: junkA.COM is the machines hostname domain junkB.COM is the domain for Prod NIC junkB.COM is the domain for BACKUP NIC nslookup only comes back with one result in both forward and reverse lookup - as it should ! Anyone have any ideas without mucking around with hosts and lmhosts? Also - NetBIOS does not need to be enabled on the backup NIC but does on the production NIC. (That is the reason for the hostname of abcdefghijkl =12 characters.) We setup the completely different hostnames in DNS (limiting the hostname name to 12 chars) to ensure NETBIOS does not get confused - but still bpclntcmd comes back with the wrong info ! Anyone with ideas please... Best regards, JdS - This communication is for informational purposes only. It is not intended as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any financial instrument or as an official confirmation of any transaction. All market prices, data and other information are not warranted as to completeness or accuracy and are subject to change without notice. Any comments or statements made herein do not necessarily reflect those of JPMorgan Chase Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential, legally privileged, and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Although this transmission and any attachments are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by JPMorgan Chase Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates, as applicable, for any loss or damage arising in any way from its use. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. Please refer to http://www.jpmorgan.com/pages/disclosures for disclosures relating to UK legal entities.___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Audit time again, need NetBackup backup success or failure history.
Thanks for all the replies. Ya gotta love this group you can almost see the hair raising on the back of everyone's neck when they see the dreaded word Auditor. I actually was able to get most of the information from Advance Reporter which was a total surprise to me. Thanks again... Wayne BeDour IT Unix System Administrator PH: 313-240-3374 FAX: 313-240-3065 Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 8:52 PM To: BeDour, Wayne Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Audit time again, need NetBackup backup success or failurehistory. You can either show up client backup images (bpimagelist): this will server as proof of backups being done to client on specific date in question (provided images do exists) Else perform simple restore for the client from requested date cheers Sami BeDour, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Sent by: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu veritas-bu-bounce cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] urn.edu Subject [Veritas-bu] Audit time again, need NetBackup backup success or 03/07/2007 05:57 failure history. AM Our environment is HP-UX 11.11, Netbackup 5.1 MP3 backing up mostly HP unix with some Sun and Windows backups. It's audit time again and the auditors are asking for validation that a backup ran 6 months ago. They give me the date and machine / policy and want me to come up with proof that it was successful. We are running Advanced Reporter but don't keep logs that old. Obviously we do not run any other third party reporting application such as Aptare but may be in the market in the future. I have been going through the manual but have yet to come up with how to get that info from NetBackup or if it is even available at this time. Any help will be appreciated. thanks Wayne BeDour IT Unix System Administrator PH: 313-240-3374 FAX: 313-240-3065 Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** ** LEGAL DISCLAIMER ** ** This E-mail message and any attachments may contain legally privileged, confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this message to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this E-mail message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete this E-mail message from your computer. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu National Australia Bank Ltd - ABN 12 004 044 937 This email may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please immediately notify us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or by replying to the sender, and then destroy all copies of this email. Except where this email indicates otherwise, views expressed in this email are those of the sender and not of National Australia Bank Ltd. Advice in this email does not take account of your objectives, financial situation, or needs. It is important for you to consider these matters and, if the e-mail refers to a product(s), you should read the relevant Product Disclosure Statement(s)/other disclosure document(s) before making any decisions. If you do not want email marketing from us in future, forward this email with unsubscribe in the subject line to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in order to stop marketing emails from this sender. National Australia Bank Ltd does not represent that this email is free of errors, viruses or interference. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] VTL with NDMP
I am doing some research to see if a VTL will help my NDMP performance. Currently I backup my Net App environment over the LAN. I am looking to improve backup and restore performance. I have a LTO-3 Tape library that can be fiber attached to the Net App filer. My concern is that the Net App filer will not be able to stream to the tape drives and I will kill my performance since the tape will have to do lots of re-positioning and start and stop. Possibly, possibly not. I have a great number of direct attach LTO3 drives in use. While shoeshining is an easy thing to point to and worry about, I find it very difficult to test directly for understanding how much of an impact it has. In general, I've found that my filers under load have bad peformance in all backup cases (even to a null device). The big advantage of a VTL in such cases would be that you're not binding a drive to a filer and making other backups wait for a drive. Of course if you have sufficient drives that they're all directly attached, there may not be a big win. I have newer and older Net App boxes, assuming a 2GB san, what performance can I expect using NDMP? All over the board. By default Netapp prefers to serve files over doing system tasks (like NDMP). A filer under heavy load can be brutal for backup times. I've seen one filer go from a 24 hour NDMP backup (to a null device) to under an hour after we killed the load. I don't normally see anything above 80MB/s even to direct attach. If you have 7.2 I think you can use FlexShare to change the priority between user and system requests. I've just now heard of the capability and will be doing some testing in the future. Do you see an advantage using VTL in place of multiple LTO-3 drives? If you're merging a small number of drives to many filers/streams, then I think it would be an advantage. Filers often take a long period of time during incrementals where they are running the filesystem tree and not sending data. If this is a normal NDMP backup, then the drive is allocated by NBU to the filer the entire time. A VTL can make that dramatically more efficient in incremental runs. For fulls where the Netapp is actually streaming data the whole time, it's probably less of a win. How many streams are possible (Using NBU 6.x)? Do the number of streams help in a VTL environment? how about a tape environment? One stream per NDMP target. You can divvy up a volume into multiple targets, but some of the NDMP overhead is shared on the volume. You may not get increased performance if you do that. Most of my backups are one stream per volume. I have a problem volume that is huge that I use multiple streams on to keep the size of the individual images lower. Any recommendations on performance tuning with NBU 6 and NDMP? Not many. Most of the performance is on the NDMP side. NBU can slow things down if you're doing a lot of backups (especially small files) and the history data going to the catalog has to wait for the NBU master to write the catalog. Speeding up the master could help then. Overloaded filers (near 100% cpu) do slow backups. -- Darren Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Technical Consultant TAOShttp://www.taos.com/ Got some Dr Pepper? San Francisco, CA bay area This line left intentionally blank to confuse you. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] VTL with NDMP
Message: 9 Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 08:18:23 -0700 From: Kenny [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Veritas-bu] VTL with NDMP To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am doing some research to see if a VTL will help my NDMP performance. Currently I backup my Net App environment over the LAN. I am looking to improve backup and restore performance. So you are running three-way NDMP right now? Or are you backing up over NFS? I have a LTO-3 Tape library that can be fiber attached to the Net App filer. My concern is that the Net App filer will not be able to stream to the tape drives and I will kill my performance since the tape will have to do lots of re-positioning and start and stop. I was thinking a VTL would be able to match the speed of the net app box thus the performance would be optimized. LTO-3: 80 MB/s native, 160MB/s compressed. That's pretty fast. VTL: 100-180 MB/s. Make sure your VTL vendor is doing compression in hardware, otherwise turning on compression can reduce your speeds by 50%. We have a very large NDMP (EMC Celerra - LTO-3) shop here, and I can tell you that very rarely does the backend disk have the horsepower to push LTO-3 much faster than 95 MB/s with real-world tests. With contrived data on a stand-alone Celerra we saw less than a 5% difference between LTO-3 and the VTLs that we were testing. YMMV, of course, but we didn't see a large enough performance advantage to move to VTL. Not only that, but if you are backing up data with long retention periods, be prepared to buy a whole lot of disk for your VTL, unless you will archive off to tape from your VTL. Questions: I have newer and older Net App boxes, assuming a 2GB san, what performance can I expect using NDMP? Out of the box, untuned, 50-80 MB/s to LTO-3. Tuned, 70-160 MB/s. From my experience, VTLs don't really need much tuning, as does tape. They are fast out of the box, but tape can be almost as fast (within 5%) when tuned properly. Do you see an advantage using VTL in place of multiple LTO-3 drives? Depends on your data. If you are backing up mostly data that is already compressed, you will be limited to the native speed of LTO-3, which is 80 MB/s. A VTL will be faster in that case. However, if your data is mostly uncompressed, then tape is just as fast as VTL. Also, if you have 2 Gb/s coming out of your NetApp, and 2 Gb/s coming into your VTL, the most you are going to see is 240 MB/s. That's three LTO-3 drives. Sure, you can create 16 virtual drives on your VTL, but that's 500% oversubscribed on throughput. How many streams are possible (Using NBU 6.x)? Do the number of streams help in a VTL environment? how about a tape environment? A NetApp filer supports 16 concurrent NDMP sessions at one time. They cannot be muxed, but you can certainly multi-stream to individual drives concurrently. Any recommendations on performance tuning with NBU 6 and NDMP? This is more of an issue with tape than VTL. With tape, SIZE_DATA_BUFFERS_NDMP is your friend. HTH. -- nick Thanks in advance! Paul Kenny +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] questions regarding upgrade to 6.0
1) Older versions of the NBU Oracle agent used to require you to bounce the database to relink the binaries..that is not the case anymore. You should not have to bounce Oracle to upgrade the system. 2) Yes, PBX does need to be installed on all media servers as well as the master server. Reneé Carlisle ServerWare Corporation _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Ruslan Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 12:28 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] questions regarding upgrade to 6.0 Dear Guys, 2 questions regarding upgrade to NBU 6.0. 1) Someone has told me before, that if we want to upgrade a media server that contain Oracle database, then during the NBU upgrade progress, the Oracle instances and services need to be stopped. Which mean downtime on the database. The reason is because when we upgrade to 6.0, the NBU oracle agent is also being upgrade, so the oracle should be down. I had a little doubt here, because as long as I know, the oracle agent on NBU was a different thing from the Oracle database, I mean separated, and only communicate each other when there was a hot backup on that Oracle database. Please verify bout this things.. Because I'm not sure I can shutdown the oracle during the upgrade progress.. :( Eventough I know that's ok if we still run the media server on 5.x, meanwhile the master was running on 6.0. 2) Did PBX (on ICS package) need to be installed on media server also? A little bit confusion here, as far as I read the manual, it's not telling us to install to the media server, but also don't tell us not to install to media server.. :LOL: Ok guys, hope to hear from you soon. -- Best Regards, mTz ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] VTL with NDMP
What kind of tuning you are doing on NetApps to get that speed? I have newer and older Net App boxes, assuming a 2GB san, what performance can I expect using NDMP? Out of the box, untuned, 50-80 MB/s to LTO-3. Tuned, 70-160 MB/s. -- nick Thanks in advance! Paul Kenny +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Conexant E-mail Firewall (Conexant.Com) made the following annotations-** Legal Disclaimer This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any unauthorized review, use or distribution by others is strictly prohibited. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply email and delete the message. Thank you. ** - ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] VTL with NDMP
We haven't tested at all with NetApp, unfortunately. EMC Celerra with DMX disk on the back has been our NDMP mule, along with NBU 6 NDMP SSO and fc LTO-3 as the target. We tested a few VTL vendors (who shall remain unnamed), and found similar results. On 7/3/07, Rajmund Siwik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What kind of tuning you are doing on NetApps to get that speed? I have newer and older Net App boxes, assuming a 2GB san, what performance can I expect using NDMP? Out of the box, untuned, 50-80 MB/s to LTO-3. Tuned, 70-160 MB/s. -- nick Thanks in advance! Paul Kenny +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Conexant E-mail Firewall (Conexant.Com) made the following annotations-** Legal Disclaimer This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any unauthorized review, use or distribution by others is strictly prohibited. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply email and delete the message. Thank you. ** - ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] 3rd Party Support [NC]
Symantec support is awfull. I feel like they dragg engineer's assignment for every ticket I open, so the issue will go away on it's own or all related log files will expire. This is not acceptable.. We have seen the opposite and we have logged a lot of calls. Although sometimes it can take longer than we like to get past the first 1 or 2 levels, once we get to the 3rd or 4th level, we have been getting excellent support. Our issues don't go away and we do have the expertise to help the support folks get to the bottom of the problems. We've received many a patch and we have also been the first to find several show-stoppers. My personal favorite was just a week or 2 ago - the DSSU destage wrote to a tape, failed (bug in NBU), and wrote to another tape, failed, and repeated until we ran out of tapes. We now have a patch for that one... .../Ed -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I GoodSearch for Bundles Of Love: http://www.goodsearch.com/?charityid=821118 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:veritas-bu- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 7:53 AM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] 3rd Party Support [NC] I second on this. Symantec support is awfull. I feel like they dragg engineer's assignment for every ticket I open, so the issue will go away on it's own or all related log files will expire. This is not acceptable.. xman30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/29/2007 10:00 AM Please respond to VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu To VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject [Veritas-bu] Re: 3rd Party Support I don't use a 3rd party vendor but I'm not especially happy with Veritas'/Symantec's support. I've had critical tickets open and they were passed from the US support center, to the Australian support center, to the UK support center with no resolution. In most cases I resolve the issues myself so a 3rd party vendor is worth investigating. Thanks ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
