[Veritas-bu] Restore of SQL2000 DB to SQL2005 server

2008-02-04 Thread Jenner, Steven
Hi, I have received a request to restore a DB which was backed up on a
SQL2000 client to a new server running SQL2005.

 

I know you can redirect a restore of a SQL DB to a different host but do
not know whether restoring to a different version of SQL is possible.
Has anyone done this and if so were there any issues?

 

Any information gratefully received.

 

The NetBackup environment is running on v5.1MP6.

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Steve.

 


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[Veritas-bu] snapvault storage unit

2008-02-04 Thread Jerry Rioux
Windows master server running 6.5.

 

I am trying to create a new snapvault storage unit. I select the Disk
and the SnapVault type and then when I goto select the Media server and
SnapVault server, those fields are blank. 

Where does netbackup get this info? 

Could this be a licensing issue?

 

Thanks,

 

Jerry Rioux

Enterprise Systems Engineer

 

Help Desk 1-888-746-6478

www.incat.com

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup to DSSU, and staging to tape at the same time?

2008-02-04 Thread Justin Piszcz


On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, osonder wrote:


 Hello

 What is the best practises regarding this? Can I do DSSU at the same time as 
 backup jobs use the DSSU?
 I want my drives free in daytime to do restores...

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Why not reserve a drive for restores?

I wouldn't recommend both unless you had a SAN beind it or a lot of 15k 
drives.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] plot drive usage/availability against time?

2008-02-04 Thread Jared . Seaton
http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/pipermail/veritas-bu/2007-November/045714.html

At the bottom of the page is the URL for the script.

Or here:

http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/pipermail/veritas-bu/attachments/20071114/89c37598/drive_graph.txt









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Very handy looking script.. but i cant see any links /attachments to it 
etc...
any idea how i can grab a copy at all please ???


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[Veritas-bu] Backup to DSSU, and staging to tape at the same time?

2008-02-04 Thread osonder

Hello

What is the best practises regarding this? Can I do DSSU at the same time as 
backup jobs use the DSSU?
I want my drives free in daytime to do restores...

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Re: [Veritas-bu] snapvault storage unit

2008-02-04 Thread Dave Carpe
Jerry,

 

If you want to use the Network Appliance SnapVault Option with NetBackup
you need to have a license for it from NetBackup and Network Appliance:

 

NAS SnapVault Option

The Network Attached Storage (NAS) SnapVault Option allows customers
with NAS storage to copy NAS-based

snapshots from primary NAS storage to secondary disk storage. This
option is currently supported only by Network

Appliance. 

 

David K. Carpe

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Symantec Corporation

Office: 646.487.6012 

Mobile: 908.963.6818

Home Office: 973.940-1805

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] snapvault storage unit

 

Windows master server running 6.5.

 

I am trying to create a new snapvault storage unit. I select the Disk
and the SnapVault type and then when I goto select the Media server and
SnapVault server, those fields are blank. 

Where does netbackup get this info? 

Could this be a licensing issue?

 

Thanks,

 

Jerry Rioux

Enterprise Systems Engineer

 

Help Desk 1-888-746-6478

www.incat.com

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Has anyone consoled into an SL500 before?

2008-02-04 Thread Ed Wilts
There is some authentication even for CLI access - I remember reading that
when we got the instructions to add the slot license upgrade.   There is a
client-side package you can install on Windows - it's a Java app that
communicates with the library over SSL.  It requires authentication with the
library.

What are you trying to accomplish?

   .../Ed

On Feb 4, 2008 6:31 AM, Justin Piszcz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 When you console into an L700 it looks like this:

 cli

 Then you type your commands, what does the SL500 look like?  Does it
 require authentication?



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Re: [Veritas-bu] Restore of SQL2000 DB to SQL2005 server

2008-02-04 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)

Steve
Although I have never tried it, it should actually be possible within
SQL 2000 itself. Essentially, backup the DB using the SQL Backup tool
(in SQL2000) and then simply import (or restore) the DB into SQL 2005.
Im sure there is a wizard for this task.
 
Ive not actually tried it, but is there anything in the NetBackup DB
Admin Guide ?
 
Simon



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Hi, I have received a request to restore a DB which was backed up on a
SQL2000 client to a new server running SQL2005.

 

I know you can redirect a restore of a SQL DB to a different host but do
not know whether restoring to a different version of SQL is possible.
Has anyone done this and if so were there any issues?

 

Any information gratefully received.

 

The NetBackup environment is running on v5.1MP6.

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Steve.

 


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup to DSSU, and staging to tape at the same time?

2008-02-04 Thread Kevin Whittaker
I would agree with Justin.  I have a DSSU of around 8TB sitting on a
CX600, with 15k drives in a SAN, and even with that the staging off will
slow down the backups enough to add around 6 hours to normally a 20 hour
backup.

You CAN do it, but you can also drag a 1000lb weight behind your car...
but don't expect to get good MPG!  ;-) 

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On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, osonder wrote:


 Hello

 What is the best practises regarding this? Can I do DSSU at the same
time as backup jobs use the DSSU?
 I want my drives free in daytime to do restores...

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Why not reserve a drive for restores?

I wouldn't recommend both unless you had a SAN beind it or a lot of 15k
drives.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Question: Is this possible?

2008-02-04 Thread Bobby Williams
You can't do it with master servers, but you can with media servers.

Assuming that you have the band width on an environment with fiber to
multiple sites.

You could expand on this, but I am going to only work with 2 sites.

This works in a 5.X environment.

Site A  has production data
Site B  has Dev/QA data and is the Alternate site.

Assume that each has SAN attached tape drives and A SAN can be zoned to B
SAN devices and the tape devices are in either a stand alone robot or a
robot that can be partitioned.

At site A, employ a Media server (call it media-dual) that is controlled by
the master at Site B.  The media server should have multiple NIC's so that
it can communicate with the master at Site B and also communicate with the
clients at site A.

For critical information, back up the info with the master-B via media-dual.
Back it up to the drives at site A in case you need to do a restore or
create a dssu at site A for these backups.  Duplicate or de-stage the
backups from media-dual to drives configured at site B.

If site A goes away, you have the backups of the critical data (say the
systems with an RPO of 1-4 hours) at Site B and just start restoring to the
alternate site recovery system (because the Site B master did the backup).
You would have to restore with the force restore option.  If you used a DSSU
for the backup, you would have to promote the secondary copy to the primary
copy (this dings me every time).  If you are duplicating tapes from A-B,
then promote the copy during duplication or wait until you need a DR
restore.

A client initiated restore of this data may not be possible depending on
whether or not your networks are linked.  A master server does not have to
communicate with a client.  Only the media server has to communicate with a
client.  However, bplist or bp from the client is not possible unless the
client can communicate with the master.

 




Bobby Williams
2205 Peterson Drive
Chattanooga, Tennessee  37421
423-296-8200

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Question: Is this possible?

Is it possible using multiple master servers (vaulting?) to make a secondary
backup in an alternate location?

Example: Assume you do cross-site backups between 2 sites.

siteA - backup to - siteB (has its own master) siteB - backup to - siteA
(has its own master)

If you have another site, call it siteC, can you do this with vaulting/or
some other way?

siteA - backup to - siteB (and also/or later copy to) - siteC siteB -
backup to - siteA (and also/or later copy to) - siteC

Keep in mind siteA,B,C each have their own master server.

What would be the best way to accomplish this?  This would solve the problem
of a dual site failure.

Justin.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Question: Is this possible?

2008-02-04 Thread Martin, Jonathan
As a test only (we never used this in production) I was able to FTP
individual DSU images across the WAN to our DR site.  Unfortunately,
once they got there I had to run a script to import them which took
forever.  If I had to do it again, I might try and use UNCs so the
import isn't necessary.  Something like... 

1) Write to DSU \\Backup\Share
2) FTP Catalog and Image to Remote Site
3) Try and read back from \\Backup\Share (different local DSU called the
same thing.)

I've had success with FTPing the catalog and reading back from media,
and I've had success FTPing DSU images, but I haven't had time to test
both.

-Jonathan

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Question: Is this possible?

Is it possible using multiple master servers (vaulting?) to make a
secondary backup in an alternate location?

Example: Assume you do cross-site backups between 2 sites.

siteA - backup to - siteB (has its own master) siteB - backup to -
siteA (has its own master)

If you have another site, call it siteC, can you do this with
vaulting/or some other way?

siteA - backup to - siteB (and also/or later copy to) - siteC siteB
- backup to - siteA (and also/or later copy to) - siteC

Keep in mind siteA,B,C each have their own master server.

What would be the best way to accomplish this?  This would solve the
problem of a dual site failure.

Justin.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Question: Is this possible?

2008-02-04 Thread Justin Piszcz


On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, Bobby Williams wrote:

 I have transferred DSSU images across WAN.

 You have to go into the DB (NB 5.X) and change the image characteristics.

 After that, you can restore away.  The force restore does not work for DSU
 or DSSU images.

So this would work in a way but you'd need a TON of disk space..

I guess what I am wondering is it possible to do something like this:

Client - siteA - backs up to tape  - siteC simultaenously

Sort of like in-line tape copy but in-line network copy?

Justin.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Has anyone consoled into an SL500 before?

2008-02-04 Thread Justin Piszcz


On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, Hadrian Baron wrote:

 The java application works for either Windows or Solaris.

 There is also a lcd panel available for the SL500 which you can configure IP 
 addresses and other cool stuff if you like new toys, it is not too expensive.

 I am actually in the process of re-iping our SL500 and Sun Support said I 
 *have* to have an engineer do it.  This is because you can only set the IP 
 address using the service account which the install tech's configured when 
 first setting the thing up.  If you know your local support guy, you might 
 want to give them a call to see if they know the login/pass.

Thanks, I gave them a call, waiting to hear back.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Has anyone consoled into an SL500 before?

2008-02-04 Thread Hadrian Baron
The java application works for either Windows or Solaris.

There is also a lcd panel available for the SL500 which you can configure IP 
addresses and other cool stuff if you like new toys, it is not too expensive.

I am actually in the process of re-iping our SL500 and Sun Support said I 
*have* to have an engineer do it.  This is because you can only set the IP 
address using the service account which the install tech's configured when 
first setting the thing up.  If you know your local support guy, you might want 
to give them a call to see if they know the login/pass.

- Hadrian

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Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 6:17 AM
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Has anyone consoled into an SL500 before?



On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, Ed Wilts wrote:

 There is some authentication even for CLI access - I remember reading that
 when we got the instructions to add the slot license upgrade.   There is a
 client-side package you can install on Windows - it's a Java app that
 communicates with the library over SSL.  It requires authentication with the
 library.

 What are you trying to accomplish?

   .../Ed

 On Feb 4, 2008 6:31 AM, Justin Piszcz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 When you console into an L700 it looks like this:

 cli

 Then you type your commands, what does the SL500 look like?  Does it
 require authentication?



 --
 Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


I found my answer.

On the back of the SL500 there is a public IP port for SLConsole/etc--
I am talking about the CLI/Console port which you connect via serial
cable/or special ethernet cable.

You (I) need to contact Sun/STK to get the initial user/password to login
via the CLI, then I can configure the public interface and use SLConsole
et all.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Has anyone consoled into an SL500 before?

2008-02-04 Thread Justin Piszcz


On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, Ed Wilts wrote:

 There is some authentication even for CLI access - I remember reading that
 when we got the instructions to add the slot license upgrade.   There is a
 client-side package you can install on Windows - it's a Java app that
 communicates with the library over SSL.  It requires authentication with the
 library.

 What are you trying to accomplish?

   .../Ed

 On Feb 4, 2008 6:31 AM, Justin Piszcz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 When you console into an L700 it looks like this:

 cli

 Then you type your commands, what does the SL500 look like?  Does it
 require authentication?



 --
 Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


I found my answer.

On the back of the SL500 there is a public IP port for SLConsole/etc--
I am talking about the CLI/Console port which you connect via serial 
cable/or special ethernet cable.

You (I) need to contact Sun/STK to get the initial user/password to login 
via the CLI, then I can configure the public interface and use SLConsole 
et all.

Justin.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Question: Is this possible?

2008-02-04 Thread Bobby Williams
I have transferred DSSU images across WAN.

You have to go into the DB (NB 5.X) and change the image characteristics.

After that, you can restore away.  The force restore does not work for DSU
or DSSU images. 




Bobby Williams
2205 Peterson Drive
Chattanooga, Tennessee  37421
423-296-8200

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Question: Is this possible?

As a test only (we never used this in production) I was able to FTP
individual DSU images across the WAN to our DR site.  Unfortunately, once
they got there I had to run a script to import them which took forever.  If
I had to do it again, I might try and use UNCs so the import isn't
necessary.  Something like... 

1) Write to DSU \\Backup\Share
2) FTP Catalog and Image to Remote Site
3) Try and read back from \\Backup\Share (different local DSU called the
same thing.)

I've had success with FTPing the catalog and reading back from media, and
I've had success FTPing DSU images, but I haven't had time to test both.

-Jonathan

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Piszcz
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 9:26 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Question: Is this possible?

Is it possible using multiple master servers (vaulting?) to make a secondary
backup in an alternate location?

Example: Assume you do cross-site backups between 2 sites.

siteA - backup to - siteB (has its own master) siteB - backup to - siteA
(has its own master)

If you have another site, call it siteC, can you do this with vaulting/or
some other way?

siteA - backup to - siteB (and also/or later copy to) - siteC siteB
- backup to - siteA (and also/or later copy to) - siteC

Keep in mind siteA,B,C each have their own master server.

What would be the best way to accomplish this?  This would solve the problem
of a dual site failure.

Justin.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup to DSSU, and staging to tape at the same time?

2008-02-04 Thread Martin, Jonathan
I try to limit the amount of time I'm simultaneously reading from and
writing to any DSSU.  In my testing here with SATA Disk I take a pretty
big performance hit on the write to tape - in the neighborhood of 80%.
You could probably do better with FC or SAS Disks, but you are still
going to take a performance hit.

-Jonathan

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Hello

What is the best practises regarding this? Can I do DSSU at the same
time as backup jobs use the DSSU?
I want my drives free in daytime to do restores...

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[Veritas-bu] Has anyone consoled into an SL500 before?

2008-02-04 Thread Justin Piszcz
When you console into an L700 it looks like this:

cli

Then you type your commands, what does the SL500 look like?  Does it 
require authentication?

Justin.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Question: Is this possible?

2008-02-04 Thread Paul Keating
You can copy the actual backup images anyway you want, and copy the
catalog data from master to master as per:
http://eval.veritas.com/downloads/pro/netbackup/nbu_50_replicating_nbu_c
atalogs.pdf

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 Interesting..  So there are some ways to 'work it' per-se-- 
 but there is 
 no real 'supported-by-symantec' method of replicating backups across 
 master servers?


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[Veritas-bu] Backup to DSSU, and staging to tape at the same time?

2008-02-04 Thread osonder

I can't reserve a drive totally to restore, because I have to use all 4 for 
staging.
My DSSU includes 28 300Gb. 10K disks.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Question: Is this possible?

2008-02-04 Thread Kris Kirby
On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, Martin, Jonathan wrote:
 As a test only (we never used this in production) I was able to FTP 
 individual DSU images across the WAN to our DR site.  Unfortunately, 
 once they got there I had to run a script to import them which took 
 forever.  If I had to do it again, I might try and use UNCs so the 
 import isn't necessary.  Something like...
 
 1) Write to DSU \\Backup\Share 2) FTP Catalog and Image to Remote Site 
 3) Try and read back from \\Backup\Share (different local DSU called 
 the same thing.)
 
 I've had success with FTPing the catalog and reading back from media,
 and I've had success FTPing DSU images, but I haven't had time to test
 both.

Why not use rsync instead? Then you have ssh as well to protect the 
data. Another approach here would be to use a mirrored SAN drive, or to 
do a mirror over iSCSI. Either way, you're getting the data from point 
A to point B, just depends on how far out of sync it can be.

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[Veritas-bu] Question: Is this possible?

2008-02-04 Thread Justin Piszcz
Is it possible using multiple master servers (vaulting?) to make a 
secondary backup in an alternate location?

Example: Assume you do cross-site backups between 2 sites.

siteA - backup to - siteB (has its own master)
siteB - backup to - siteA (has its own master)

If you have another site, call it siteC, can you do this with vaulting/or 
some other way?

siteA - backup to - siteB (and also/or later copy to) - siteC
siteB - backup to - siteA (and also/or later copy to) - siteC

Keep in mind siteA,B,C each have their own master server.

What would be the best way to accomplish this?  This would solve the 
problem of a dual site failure.

Justin.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Question: Is this possible?

2008-02-04 Thread Justin Piszcz


On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, Bobby Williams wrote:

 You can't do it with master servers, but you can with media servers.

 Assuming that you have the band width on an environment with fiber to
 multiple sites.
Arg, looking to have 3 separate environments ideally..


 You could expand on this, but I am going to only work with 2 sites.

 This works in a 5.X environment.

 Site A  has production data
 Site B  has Dev/QA data and is the Alternate site.

 Assume that each has SAN attached tape drives and A SAN can be zoned to B
 SAN devices and the tape devices are in either a stand alone robot or a
 robot that can be partitioned.
Arg again!  No SAN/fiber switches here, direct-attached (hence why the 
master-server is what I am looking at).


 At site A, employ a Media server (call it media-dual) that is controlled by
 the master at Site B.  The media server should have multiple NIC's so that
 it can communicate with the master at Site B and also communicate with the
 clients at site A.
I thought of this as well, but for other reasons, having a master control 
its own site actually turned out to be the best and having the clients 
from the other backup to it (aka cross-site)


 For critical information, back up the info with the master-B via media-dual.
 Back it up to the drives at site A in case you need to do a restore or
 create a dssu at site A for these backups.  Duplicate or de-stage the
 backups from media-dual to drives configured at site B.
Yeah I can kind of see this working..


 If site A goes away, you have the backups of the critical data (say the
 systems with an RPO of 1-4 hours) at Site B and just start restoring to the
 alternate site recovery system (because the Site B master did the backup).
 You would have to restore with the force restore option.  If you used a DSSU
 for the backup, you would have to promote the secondary copy to the primary
 copy (this dings me every time).  If you are duplicating tapes from A-B,
 then promote the copy during duplication or wait until you need a DR
 restore.
Understood..


 A client initiated restore of this data may not be possible depending on
 whether or not your networks are linked.  A master server does not have to
 communicate with a client.  Only the media server has to communicate with a
 client.  However, bplist or bp from the client is not possible unless the
 client can communicate with the master.
Yes.

A lot of this though stems from the fact I cannot do what I really want to 
do, it is almost if the _real_ work around is just have the client backup 
the data twice (if you wanted to be protected from a dual-site failure?)

clientA - site B
clientB - site C

Justin.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Restore of SQL2000 DB to SQL2005 server

2008-02-04 Thread Matthew Agle
You can convert a 2000DB to 2K5DB but that would be a job for the DBA
(there is a wizard for this but keep a backup of the 2000 DB and restore to
a new instance of the 2K5 using the conversion wizard).  Where you restore
the information is relative but this sounds like a database question more
than a netbackup question.

On Feb 4, 2008 8:12 AM, WEAVER, Simon (external) 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  *Steve*
 *Although I have never tried it, it should actually be possible within SQL
 2000 itself. Essentially, backup the DB using the SQL Backup tool (in
 SQL2000) and then simply import (or restore) the DB into SQL 2005. Im sure
 there is a wizard for this task.*
 **
 *Ive not actually tried it, but is there anything in the NetBackup DB
 Admin Guide ?*
 **
 *Simon*

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 *Subject:* [Veritas-bu] Restore of SQL2000 DB to SQL2005 server

  Hi, I have received a request to restore a DB which was backed up on a
 SQL2000 client to a new server running SQL2005.



 I know you can redirect a restore of a SQL DB to a different host but do
 not know whether restoring to a different version of SQL is possible. Has
 anyone done this and if so were there any issues?



 Any information gratefully received.



 The NetBackup environment is running on v5.1MP6.



 Thanks in advance,



 Steve.



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[Veritas-bu] Include list pattern match not working??

2008-02-04 Thread Mark.Donaldson
I need a sanity check, here.  

I've got this INCLUDE list on a policy for a series of NFS mounts:

INCLUDE NEW_STREAM
INCLUDE /etc/passwd
INCLUDE /gollum/vol/[qr]*
INCLUDE /gollum/vol/[0-9]*
INCLUDE /gollum/vol/[A-Z]*

and the activity view shows the current path being backed up is

/gollum/vol/documentum/at02_doc_data/blah...blah../file.txt

Last I checked, this pattern doesn't match this path being backed up.
Any reason that you folks see that I'm not?

Some explanation: I just reworked my filer backups (all done via NFS
mount right now) and use wildcards to match most of the volume names and
divide things into sets.  I'm using the wildcards so if some other admin
adds a new volume later, I pick up the new volume automatically and
perform backups on it.  That's what the [0-9] and [A-Z] entries are for,
they're my just in case lines.  The /etc/passwd thing at the
beginning is to make the stream Status 71 resistant.  I somebody
renames a volume later and leaves me with nothing, I'll get a small but
still valid backup image.  /etc/passwd is always there.

-M

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Question: Is this possible?

2008-02-04 Thread Bobby Williams
You could do inline tape copies and send 1 each to the other sites.

You can ftp the image info across the LAN and not have to import.

Tech Doc 266673 was the doc detailing how to move image data between master
servers. 




Bobby Williams
2205 Peterson Drive
Chattanooga, Tennessee  37421
423-296-8200

-Original Message-
From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 2:00 PM
To: Bobby Williams
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Question: Is this possible?



On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, Bobby Williams wrote:

 You can't do it with master servers, but you can with media servers.

 Assuming that you have the band width on an environment with fiber to 
 multiple sites.
Arg, looking to have 3 separate environments ideally..


 You could expand on this, but I am going to only work with 2 sites.

 This works in a 5.X environment.

 Site A  has production data
 Site B  has Dev/QA data and is the Alternate site.

 Assume that each has SAN attached tape drives and A SAN can be zoned 
 to B SAN devices and the tape devices are in either a stand alone 
 robot or a robot that can be partitioned.
Arg again!  No SAN/fiber switches here, direct-attached (hence why the
master-server is what I am looking at).


 At site A, employ a Media server (call it media-dual) that is 
 controlled by the master at Site B.  The media server should have 
 multiple NIC's so that it can communicate with the master at Site B 
 and also communicate with the clients at site A.
I thought of this as well, but for other reasons, having a master control
its own site actually turned out to be the best and having the clients from
the other backup to it (aka cross-site)


 For critical information, back up the info with the master-B via
media-dual.
 Back it up to the drives at site A in case you need to do a restore or
 create a dssu at site A for these backups.  Duplicate or de-stage the
 backups from media-dual to drives configured at site B.
Yeah I can kind of see this working..


 If site A goes away, you have the backups of the critical data (say the
 systems with an RPO of 1-4 hours) at Site B and just start restoring to
the
 alternate site recovery system (because the Site B master did the backup).
 You would have to restore with the force restore option.  If you used a
DSSU
 for the backup, you would have to promote the secondary copy to the
primary
 copy (this dings me every time).  If you are duplicating tapes from A-B,
 then promote the copy during duplication or wait until you need a DR
 restore.
Understood..


 A client initiated restore of this data may not be possible depending on
 whether or not your networks are linked.  A master server does not have to
 communicate with a client.  Only the media server has to communicate with
a
 client.  However, bplist or bp from the client is not possible unless the
 client can communicate with the master.
Yes.

A lot of this though stems from the fact I cannot do what I really want to 
do, it is almost if the _real_ work around is just have the client backup 
the data twice (if you wanted to be protected from a dual-site failure?)

clientA - site B
clientB - site C

Justin.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Include list pattern match not working??

2008-02-04 Thread Mark.Donaldson
If I can reply to my own posting, 

I pulled the [A-Z] reference and it just backed up the expected
filesystems.  Could it be that NB is doing a case-insensitive match?
Hmm.  Too much time in bed with Microsoft?

I'll keep looking into it.

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Include list pattern match not working??

I need a sanity check, here.  

I've got this INCLUDE list on a policy for a series of NFS mounts:

INCLUDE NEW_STREAM
INCLUDE /etc/passwd
INCLUDE /gollum/vol/[qr]*
INCLUDE /gollum/vol/[0-9]*
INCLUDE /gollum/vol/[A-Z]*

and the activity view shows the current path being backed up is

/gollum/vol/documentum/at02_doc_data/blah...blah../file.txt

Last I checked, this pattern doesn't match this path being backed up.
Any reason that you folks see that I'm not?

Some explanation: I just reworked my filer backups (all done via NFS
mount right now) and use wildcards to match most of the volume names and
divide things into sets.  I'm using the wildcards so if some other admin
adds a new volume later, I pick up the new volume automatically and
perform backups on it.  That's what the [0-9] and [A-Z] entries are for,
they're my just in case lines.  The /etc/passwd thing at the
beginning is to make the stream Status 71 resistant.  I somebody
renames a volume later and leaves me with nothing, I'll get a small but
still valid backup image.  /etc/passwd is always there.

-M

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[Veritas-bu] Reconfig Storage Units

2008-02-04 Thread Koping Wang
Hi,
I need to change configuration of one of my storage units. Which daemon
should I restart? I can not restart Netbackup entirely.

Netbackup 5.1 mp4 on Solaris

Koping Wang
ESRI
System/Backup Administrator

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Question: Is this possible?

2008-02-04 Thread Martin, Jonathan
I think the only supported Symantec way to recover is to build a SiteA
and SiteB Master in your SiteC and restore from Catalog.  Other than
that, you are in the woods / on your own.  That said, I've been able to
build wonderful / live DR configurations with one remote site acting as
the DR site for another etc... I always make a Catalog tape and ship it
offsite (just in case) but I think you'll find Netbackup is a very
stable product and you can pretty easily fool it into doing just about
anything you want.

Just for the hell of it I just ran this test.

Created a DSU-TEST on Master #1 bound to \\localhost\DSU-TEST (Master is
6.0 MP4)
Backed up 4.5GB to this DSU
Copied the contents of that DSU to \\MASTER2\DSU-TEST
Copied Veritas\Netbackup\Db\Images\client folder to \\MASTER2
Created DSU-TEST on Master #2 bound to \\localhost\DSU-TEST (Master is
6.5.1)
Restored data to c:\temp
Checksums matched original data backed up.

Note: Alternate restore host from Master 1 to Master 2 was already in
place from pervious testing.

So in retrospect - this works great.  I do the same thing with Media for
fast DR restores. (pre-catalog recovery stuff.)  What Netbackup
doesn't know won't hurt it (although Symantec support is another beast
entirely. :)

-Jonathan





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From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 1:56 PM
To: Martin, Jonathan
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Question: Is this possible?



On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, Martin, Jonathan wrote:

 As a test only (we never used this in production) I was able to FTP 
 individual DSU images across the WAN to our DR site.  Unfortunately, 
 once they got there I had to run a script to import them which took 
 forever.  If I had to do it again, I might try and use UNCs so the 
 import isn't necessary.  Something like...

 1) Write to DSU \\Backup\Share
 2) FTP Catalog and Image to Remote Site
 3) Try and read back from \\Backup\Share (different local DSU called 
 the same thing.)

 I've had success with FTPing the catalog and reading back from media, 
 and I've had success FTPing DSU images, but I haven't had time to test

 both.

 -Jonathan
Interesting..  So there are some ways to 'work it' per-se-- but there is
no real 'supported-by-symantec' method of replicating backups across
master servers?

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[Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.1 Tape storage groups not working correctly

2008-02-04 Thread mark_au

Hi guys,

I have inherated a netbackup 6.5.1 system that was recently upgraded
so im guessing it used to work...

we have a mixture of lto2 and 1 drives
these are accessed via storage groups that preference either the lto2 or 1
in a failover mode.

our policies that preference lto2 are failing back to lto1 drives (and hence 
taking a long time to back up)
i have checked the media and there is lto 2 media in the scratch pool

i have tested by creating a policy that uses the lto2 storage unit directly 
rather than via the storage group and it will load and write to lot2 tapes.

it only appears broken when attempting to use the  lto2 via the storage group .

I have had other disk storage group weirdness also, ie  one client of backup 
policiy reporting  failing by referencing a DSU disk path that is no longer 
existing yet the actual backup working... 

methinks that 6.5.1 is somewhat broken  of is cacheing old info somewhere

regards

Mark W

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Aptare Storage Console vs. Veritas Backup Reporter

2008-02-04 Thread Rusty . Major



We are doing one right now, but won't have any info for a 
couple of weeks.

We currently use Aptare (6.0.24), but my manager was wowed 
by VBR at the recent Veritas Engineering Conference so we are now looking at 
VBR. There are quite a few nice enhancements in Aptare 6.5 that we are waiting 
on, so I think that will close up the race quite a bit. 
I'll report back when we have our findings, but I would 
recommend that you do a comparison of both tools. I know that VBR can collect 
data and then you can send that data to Symantec who will then bundle it into a 
useable product with your collected data. I'm pretty sure Aptare can do this 
same thing, but don't quote me on that.For us, this will be VERY nice for 
a side by side comparison. You'll also need to know what reports you want or 
might want in the future as there may be some things coming out soon that you 
wouldn't otherwise know about. There's also the storage reporting features of 
Aptare, which I do not believe VBR does, but there's probably another Symantec 
product that covers that. I believe both vendors can report on TSM, BackupExec, 
Legato, etc., but how well each one does it is a different story. 


I'll remember to post what we decide on and why when we are 
done with the comparison.

-Rusty


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"Forester, Jack L" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, 
February 04, 2008 3:53 PMTo: 
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Console vs. Veritas Backup Reporter
I'm looking at reporting tools for NetBackup, and was wondering if 
anyone has done a head-to-head comparison of Storage Console vs. Backup 
Reporter. Aptare has always received high praise here, and the Veritas 
product, well, has never been mentioned in the same breath as Aptare. 
I've heard that Backup reporter has improved over the years, but can it 
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[Veritas-bu] Aptare Storage Console vs. Veritas Backup Reporter

2008-02-04 Thread Forester, Jack L
I'm looking at reporting tools for NetBackup, and was wondering if
anyone has done a head-to-head comparison of Storage Console vs. Backup
Reporter.  Aptare has always received high praise here, and the Veritas
product, well, has never been mentioned in the same breath as Aptare.
I've heard that Backup reporter has improved over the years, but can it
yet hold a candle to Storage Console?

Jack L. Forester, Jr.
UNIX Systems Administrator, Stf
Lockheed Martin Information Technology
(304) 625-3946

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Aptare Storage Console vs. Veritas Backup Reporter

2008-02-04 Thread Ed Wilts
It's been a while since I've done the head-to-head but I recently asked my
salesrep for a quote on VBR to see if it might be worthwhile be switching.
VBR is considerably more expensive than Aptare's StorageConsole.  However, I
will add that I just saw Aptare's new license terms today and didn't like
them one bit.  I've got a query in to them...

In terms of straight feature comparisons, I believe that Aptare still wins
(it wasn't even close when we purchased StorageConsole).  I've seen their
6.5 release although I haven't had a chance to install it yet and it's quite
impressive - I've been hounding my Unix admins to give me a production
environment to put it on (it doesn't support RHEL 3 which is where I'm
currently at on the portal).

The one thing I've noticed about backup reporting products is that there are
features in there that are very important to some customers and very useless
to others.  There may be 1 feature in there that you absolutely have to have
so it's in your best interest to have a detailed look at what you need and
what each product has to offer.  Start with price quotes from both vendors,
pick the cheapest, do a through analysis of it, and if it meets all of your
needs, you're done.  If there's stuff missing, then you may have to step up
in price.  What you'll find out, though, is that in some cases you're paying
for features you may never need and that's just wasting money.

Aptare and Veritas aren't the only players in the game these days either.

Yes, I know that both Veritas and Aptare are listening :-)

   .../Ed

On Feb 4, 2008 3:53 PM, Forester, Jack L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm looking at reporting tools for NetBackup, and was wondering if
 anyone has done a head-to-head comparison of Storage Console vs. Backup
 Reporter.  Aptare has always received high praise here, and the Veritas
 product, well, has never been mentioned in the same breath as Aptare.
 I've heard that Backup reporter has improved over the years, but can it
 yet hold a candle to Storage Console?


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[Veritas-bu] 6.5.1 Limit number of tape drives while stageing to disk

2008-02-04 Thread mark_au

Hi Guys

We'd like to stage from disk to tape during the day after backups are completed 
and the system is quiet. However when this happens , all tapes drives in the 
group are used. which limits the ability to perform restores. I cant see any 
where in the diskstorage unit config that limits the number of drives so we can 
leave 1 or 2 free for restores

regards

Mark W

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Has anyone consoled into an SL500 before?

2008-02-04 Thread Steve Bally
Unfortunately, this is true, it takes a CE to re-ip the device.  I guess
that is why we pay maintenance.

Steve  

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The java application works for either Windows or Solaris.

There is also a lcd panel available for the SL500 which you can
configure IP addresses and other cool stuff if you like new toys, it is
not too expensive.

I am actually in the process of re-iping our SL500 and Sun Support said
I *have* to have an engineer do it.  This is because you can only set
the IP address using the service account which the install tech's
configured when first setting the thing up.  If you know your local
support guy, you might want to give them a call to see if they know the
login/pass.

- Hadrian

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Justin
Piszcz
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 6:17 AM
To: Ed Wilts
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Has anyone consoled into an SL500 before?



On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, Ed Wilts wrote:

 There is some authentication even for CLI access - I remember reading
that
 when we got the instructions to add the slot license upgrade.   There
is a
 client-side package you can install on Windows - it's a Java app that
 communicates with the library over SSL.  It requires authentication
with the
 library.

 What are you trying to accomplish?

   .../Ed

 On Feb 4, 2008 6:31 AM, Justin Piszcz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 When you console into an L700 it looks like this:

 cli

 Then you type your commands, what does the SL500 look like?  Does it
 require authentication?



 --
 Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


I found my answer.

On the back of the SL500 there is a public IP port for SLConsole/etc--
I am talking about the CLI/Console port which you connect via serial
cable/or special ethernet cable.

You (I) need to contact Sun/STK to get the initial user/password to
login
via the CLI, then I can configure the public interface and use SLConsole
et all.

Justin.
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[Veritas-bu] 6.5.1 Limit number of tape drives while stageing to disk

2008-02-04 Thread mark_au


thoke wrote:
 Check out this TechNote from 
 Symantec:http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/280067.htm 
 (http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/280067.htm)
 
 Here's what you are looking for:
 
 III.B. How to Decrease The Number of Simultaneous Duplication Jobs That Will 
 be Activated
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[/quote]

Cheers

thats what i ended up doing

regards mark

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Aptare Storage Console vs. Veritas Backup Reporter

2008-02-04 Thread Randy Samora
We abandoned Backup Reporter early in the 5.x era and moved to Aptare.
We haven't installed 6.5 yet but previous releases have provided better
reports than the old Backup Reporter.  I am not impressed by Aptare tech
support at all though.  It appears to be a relatively small company with
a great product.  If the install goes good and the product is stable,
you'll have great reports whenever you need them.  If anything goes
wrong, plan for some down time because Aptare doesn't appear to have too
many Engineers on the tech support line.  I'm in Houston and it's 10
o'clock my time before I can even get someone on the phone in the
morning.  But when it works, it provides just about everything I could
want in a reporting tool.

Thanks,
Randy


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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Aptare Storage Console vs. Veritas Backup Reporter

I'm looking at reporting tools for NetBackup, and was wondering if
anyone has done a head-to-head comparison of Storage Console vs. Backup
Reporter.  Aptare has always received high praise here, and the Veritas
product, well, has never been mentioned in the same breath as Aptare.
I've heard that Backup reporter has improved over the years, but can it
yet hold a candle to Storage Console?

Jack L. Forester, Jr.
UNIX Systems Administrator, Stf
Lockheed Martin Information Technology
(304) 625-3946

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Reconfig Storage Units

2008-02-04 Thread Abhishek Dhingra1
You need to run #bpschedreq -rereadconfig


Abhishek Dhingra

IBM Global Services, Delhi,
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Mobile : +91-9818675370



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Hi, 
I need to change configuration of one of my storage units. Which daemon 
should I restart? I can not restart Netbackup entirely.
Netbackup 5.1 mp4 on Solaris 
Koping Wang 
ESRI 
System/Backup Administrator 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Aptare Storage Console vs. Veritas Backup Reporter

2008-02-04 Thread Michael Graff Andersen
We went for VBR as Aptare didn't even reply on our request for a demo.

Michael

2008/2/4, Forester, Jack L [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I'm looking at reporting tools for NetBackup, and was wondering if
 anyone has done a head-to-head comparison of Storage Console vs. Backup
 Reporter.  Aptare has always received high praise here, and the Veritas
 product, well, has never been mentioned in the same breath as Aptare.
 I've heard that Backup reporter has improved over the years, but can it
 yet hold a candle to Storage Console?

 Jack L. Forester, Jr.
 UNIX Systems Administrator, Stf
 Lockheed Martin Information Technology
 (304) 625-3946

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