Re: [Veritas-bu] bpbrm utilizing 99.9% CPU

2008-02-19 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)

Dustin
If you do not have any jobs running (or continually running for the
client), I tend to stop all related NBU Services on the client and kill
the processes.
 
You do not say what OS you have, but there are tools out there for
windows that allows you to kill processes that are continually running
if you cannot use Task Manager to do the job :-). Its common if there
has been a problem with comms between client/server or the client has
just got itself in a mess and cannot sort itself out without help (even
a reboot where poss!)
 
HTH
S.



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I've noticed in the past that bpbrm is utilizing 99.9% of the CPU and
hasn't let down. Also it says it has used 15436:40 CPU Time which seems
like the process has gone rogue. Has anyone else had this happen or is
this normal, and how would I fix it?

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Question about synthetic backups

2008-02-19 Thread Haskins, Steve
I concur that the underlying reason and thus the point of synthetic
backups is to shorten the backup window and reduce downtime and network
bandwidth utilization (at least after the first full is completed). We
disagree on what a true synthetic backup is and how it is implemented.

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I might be able to enlighten you some. I'm not sure the differences
between synthetics in 5.1 and 6.5 as I am only using them in 6.5.

You're close but not quite on the mark about synthetics. The point of
the synthetic is to reduce server down time, shorten the backup window
and reduce network utilization by creating NEW backups by combining the
most recent FULL with ALL Differential backups newer than that FULL. The
FULL and Diffs aren't altered in any way, you don't want them to be, you
want to still be able to go back to them if you need to. The only thing
that is synthetic about the synthetic backup is the fact that it didn't
get the data directly from the server rather it got it from two or more
previous backups.

None of this helps my original question of course...

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[Veritas-bu] Question about synthetic backups

2008-02-19 Thread dbergen

I might be able to enlighten you some. I'm not sure the differences between 
synthetics in 5.1 and 6.5 as I am only using them in 6.5.

You're close but not quite on the mark about synthetics. The point of the 
synthetic is to reduce server down time, shorten the backup window and reduce 
network utilization by creating NEW backups by combining the most recent FULL 
with ALL Differential backups newer than that FULL. The FULL and Diffs aren't 
altered in any way, you don't want them to be, you want to still be able to go 
back to them if you need to. The only thing that is synthetic about the 
synthetic backup is the fact that it didn't get the data directly from the 
server rather it got it from two or more previous backups.

None of this helps my original question of course...

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Question about synthetic backups

2008-02-19 Thread Haskins, Steve
CBergen,

  You're not the only one that would like some enlightenment...I mean,
on synthetics backups. I don't understand why incrementals have to be
continuously run at all. As I understand it, that is the point of
synthetic backups as to have a full and just backup the changes from
that point forward with synthetics? That is the way TSM's synthetic
backups work with the option of how many 'versions' to retain. I'm on
5.1 (getting ready to upgrade to 6.5.1) so maybe synthetics are
different in 6.x? What is exactly done between the required incrementals
and the synthetics? Does each synthetic combine the previous two
incrementals and how; as a differential and then expire the two tapes
that were used for the incrementals (just an example if two were used)or
delete the incrementals images on the tapes OR disk?

Regards,
Steve

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When I attempt a synthetic backup and the most recent backup of the
client is a full backup nothing happens.

Nothing happens because Netbackup says there was no incremental backup
to analyze. My question is: So What?

I want another full backup, to a completely different volume pool,
shouldn't Netbackup realize that the volume pool is different and run
the synthetic backup again?

Hopefully someone can tell me what I am doing wrong here.

Thanks,
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[Veritas-bu] Question about synthetic backups

2008-02-19 Thread dbergen

When I attempt a synthetic backup and the most recent backup of the client is a 
full backup nothing happens.

Nothing happens because Netbackup says there was no incremental backup to 
analyze. My question is: So What?

I want another full backup, to a completely different volume pool, shouldn't 
Netbackup realize that the volume pool is different and run the synthetic 
backup again?

Hopefully someone can tell me what I am doing wrong here.

Thanks,
dbergen

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup changes

2008-02-19 Thread Mr. Hernandez
You can utilize CVS/SVN tools to track changes, because you can retain a
database of all changes, which includes what and who.

You can also run the command below to create a baseline configuration:

bppllist -allpolicies -U > allpolicies_base

Then have a "cron" or "at" job run every 24 hours running the same command
and redirecting the output to a file appended with the current date and
time.  Then running diff against both files and capturing the differences,
which can be emailed, and stored in a data repository.  This will not
provide who, but it is a systematic way of capturing changes.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup of Exchange Mailboxes fails

2008-02-19 Thread Rusty . Major



As Simon recommended, can you NOT do brick level backups? I 
would at least try that to see if the backups in fact work.
You can also try performing backups using NTBackup on the 
server itself, assuming you have the storage. These two will tell you that 
backups are working and will point you to something with brick level 
backups.
 
For your other question, if you read the NBU Exchange Admin 
guide it will tell you about how to disable the SIS option.
 
-Rusty


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[Veritas-bu] Backup of Exchange Mailboxes fails
Using NBU 6.0MP4 on Windows. Backup of Exchange Mailboxes 
is failing with the error: 2/19/2008 11:00:31 AM - Warning 
bpbrm(pid=5980) from client bbkmailsrv.services.bbkonline.com: WRN - unable to 
successfully enumerate folder: Microsoft Exchange Mailboxes:\ The above 
message comes and backup fails with status 1 in the beginning itself (without 
backing up anything). I am unable to find a proper resolution to the 
above error. I read on Symantec support site the workaround for this is 'Turn 
off Single Instance Store for mailbox backups'. I am unable to understand this 
and what action to take i.e. how to turn off SIS. I also read that this bug is 
fixed in NBU 5.0MP6. So I should not be impacted by this but still I am getting 
this error. What is the solution? Please help. Thanks. 
BNetra 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 5.1: Disk staging causing heavy fragmentation

2008-02-19 Thread Ed Wilts
On Feb 19, 2008 12:37 PM, Tony T. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Has anyone heard of this issue? I have an environment where NBU 5.1 (plans
> to get to 6.5.1 are in the works) is backing up to disk then staging to
> tape.
> The admins tell me that the area where the backups are going gets very
> fragmented after each backup.  It is a Windows box, using NTFS.


It's NTFS and you're creating and deleting a lot of files on the volume so
of course it will fragment.  Either defragment the volume or set the minimum
threshold lower so that more files get deleted when the cleanup process runs
to reduce the fragmentation.

   .../Ed

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 5.1: Disk staging causing heavy fragmentation

2008-02-19 Thread rcarlisle
It is pretty well documented that any area you use for disk staging should
be defragmented regularly.
 
 
 
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ServerWare Corporation



 

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Has anyone heard of this issue? I have an environment where NBU 5.1 (plans
to get to 6.5.1 are in the works) is backing up to disk then staging to
tape.
The admins tell me that the area where the backups are going gets very
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Re: [Veritas-bu] bpbrm utilizing 99.9% CPU

2008-02-19 Thread Dustin Damour
No stuck jobs, however one did run way too long and I had to stop it
manually. One odd thing I did notice was that the time on the
master/media server was in the future by one day and a few hours. I
changed the time back to current but not sure if it fixed anything other
than the scheduling. I killed it and restarted it about 11 days ago and
yet it still does the CPU time hogging. Wonder if it is a bug or a
feature :)

Dustin D'Amour
Wireless Switching
Plateau Wireless

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Dustin,

Do you have any stuck jobs? I've seen this happen in the past where a 
client also has problems. Backups generate incomplete errors and the 
master/media server responsible for writing the data gets stuck like 
this. Other backups ran fine, and if the problem persisted over more 
than one day, only the client would fail completely. Most of the time I 
could kill -9 on the client and restart netbackup on the master/media 
servers.

The problem I experienced was with a solaris 8 client crashing and 
restarting each day, up until the zombie processes consumed enough 
resources that a new backup job would not start. Sometimes while the 
client was quietly going bad and the backups would finish successfully 
on attempt 2 or 3, I would see bpbrm consuming a lot of CPU time.

This happened more to me with version 5.x.

Does BPBRM_VERBOSE = 5 give anything meaningful?



> I've noticed in the past that bpbrm is utilizing 99.9% of the CPU and 
> hasn't let down. Also it says it has used 15436:40 CPU Time which 
> seems like the process has gone rogue. Has anyone else had this happen

> or is this normal, and how would I fix it?
>
> NetBackup 6.5
>
> Dustin D'Amour
>
> Wireless Switching
>
> Plateau Wireless


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Re: [Veritas-bu] EMM Error 800 when trying to backup to a disk storage unit.

2008-02-19 Thread ckstehman
Justin

We have NBU 6.45.1 installed on a 64Bit Windows 2003 server (4CPU, 4G 
memory) Dual quad core CPU
Connected to a DD580 via Fiber for tape.  Both systems have GigE 
connections to the LAN.

We are getting between 3,000KB to 8,700KB/sec to disk
and between 16,000 to 29,000 KB/sec to VTL tape.
We had thought the disk would be faster than our current tape environment, 
which it is not.
We are working with Data Domain on this.  It could be a server or NIC 
problem that is throttling the data
The VTL is connected via Fiber.

"800" errors:

We started getting the 800/54, etc  errors when we tweaked the Netbackup 
buffers and did some other hacks.
It was runnig OK before we did that.  So our issue is probably different 
than yours, which you have solved.

Thanks
Carl

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Using DDR 460s here, they work great/good throughput, what kind of 
throughput do you get, what kind of configuration do you have going on 
there?

Justin.

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> Our environment is different, we are running NBU 6.5.1 on a 64bit 
Windows
> system connected to a DD580
> We have had problems getting expected throughput when we are backing up 
to
> disk.  Your comments seem
> to point to a NBU problem rather than a DDR issue, interesting.
> =
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> IT Distributed Services Team
> Pepco Holdings, Inc.
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> Justin Piszcz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Re: [Veritas-bu] EMM Error 800 when trying to backup to a disk storage
> unit.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hmm, its working now after using the policy wizard to create the policy,
> (and the old one continues to fail).
>
> Continuing to dig into this.
>
> On Tue, 19 Feb 2008, Justin Piszcz wrote:
>
>> Same,
>>
>> NetBackup 6.0MP4 trying to backup to a DDR.
>>
>> But I also tried backing up to another RAID array on the master and
> media
>> servers, same issue, not just DDR related.
>>
>> Justin.
>>
>> On Tue, 19 Feb 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>> Justin
>>>
>>> We have been getting these errors while testing disk backups to a Data
>>> Domain disk.  Can you give some more details about
>>> your environment.
>>>
>>> Carl
>>> =
>>> Carl Stehman
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>>> [Veritas-bu] EMM Error 800 when trying to backup to a disk storage
> unit.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The only post I have found on Google is my own and when that happens,
> its
>>> not a good sign.
>>>
>>> Wrong pool for a disk storage unit, anyone ever have this issue?
>>>
>>> I've checked and compared the EMM settings on two different master
> server
>>> environments, they're the same.
>>>
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[Veritas-bu] NBU 5.1: Disk staging causing heavy fragmentation

2008-02-19 Thread Tony T.
Has anyone heard of this issue? I have an environment where NBU 5.1 (plans
to get to 6.5.1 are in the works) is backing up to disk then staging to
tape.
The admins tell me that the area where the backups are going gets very
fragmented after each backup.  It is a Windows box, using NTFS.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] bpbrm utilizing 99.9% CPU

2008-02-19 Thread Jon Bousselot
Dustin,

Do you have any stuck jobs? I've seen this happen in the past where a 
client also has problems. Backups generate incomplete errors and the 
master/media server responsible for writing the data gets stuck like 
this. Other backups ran fine, and if the problem persisted over more 
than one day, only the client would fail completely. Most of the time I 
could kill -9 on the client and restart netbackup on the master/media 
servers.

The problem I experienced was with a solaris 8 client crashing and 
restarting each day, up until the zombie processes consumed enough 
resources that a new backup job would not start. Sometimes while the 
client was quietly going bad and the backups would finish successfully 
on attempt 2 or 3, I would see bpbrm consuming a lot of CPU time.

This happened more to me with version 5.x.

Does BPBRM_VERBOSE = 5 give anything meaningful?



> I’ve noticed in the past that bpbrm is utilizing 99.9% of the CPU and 
> hasn’t let down. Also it says it has used 15436:40 CPU Time which 
> seems like the process has gone rogue. Has anyone else had this happen 
> or is this normal, and how would I fix it?
>
> NetBackup 6.5
>
> Dustin D'Amour
>
> Wireless Switching
>
> Plateau Wireless

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Re: [Veritas-bu] bpbrm utilizing 99.9% CPU

2008-02-19 Thread Bobby Williams
I have a 5.0MP7 master that does it.
 
I stop NetBackup and clean up old jobs and restart NetBackup.
 
I have never been able to do anything else to get the CPU to let go of
run-away process.
 



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I've noticed in the past that bpbrm is utilizing 99.9% of the CPU and hasn't
let down. Also it says it has used 15436:40 CPU Time which seems like the
process has gone rogue. Has anyone else had this happen or is this normal,
and how would I fix it?

 

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[Veritas-bu] bpbrm utilizing 99.9% CPU

2008-02-19 Thread Dustin Damour
I've noticed in the past that bpbrm is utilizing 99.9% of the CPU and
hasn't let down. Also it says it has used 15436:40 CPU Time which seems
like the process has gone rogue. Has anyone else had this happen or is
this normal, and how would I fix it?

 

NetBackup 6.5

 

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Wireless Switching

Plateau Wireless

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] EMM Error 800 when trying to backup to a disk storage unit.

2008-02-19 Thread Justin Piszcz
I found the root cause.

Will update shortly.

On Tue, 19 Feb 2008, Justin Piszcz wrote:

> Hmm, its working now after using the policy wizard to create the policy, (and 
> the old one continues to fail).
>
> Continuing to dig into this.
>
> On Tue, 19 Feb 2008, Justin Piszcz wrote:
>
>> Same,
>> 
>> NetBackup 6.0MP4 trying to backup to a DDR.
>> 
>> But I also tried backing up to another RAID array on the master and media 
>> servers, same issue, not just DDR related.
>> 
>> Justin.
>> 
>> On Tue, 19 Feb 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>>> Justin
>>> 
>>> We have been getting these errors while testing disk backups to a Data
>>> Domain disk.  Can you give some more details about
>>> your environment.
>>> 
>>> Carl
>>> =
>>> Carl Stehman
>>> IT Distributed Services Team
>>> Pepco Holdings, Inc.
>>> 202-331-6619
>>> Pager 301-765-2703
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Justin Piszcz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> 02/19/2008 09:25 AM
>>> 
>>> To
>>> veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
>>> cc
>>> 
>>> Subject
>>> [Veritas-bu] EMM Error 800 when trying to backup to a disk storage unit.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The only post I have found on Google is my own and when that happens, its
>>> not a good sign.
>>> 
>>> Wrong pool for a disk storage unit, anyone ever have this issue?
>>> 
>>> I've checked and compared the EMM settings on two different master server
>>> environments, they're the same.
>>> 
>>> Justin.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] EMM Error 800 when trying to backup to a disk storage unit.

2008-02-19 Thread Justin Piszcz
Hmm, its working now after using the policy wizard to create the policy, 
(and the old one continues to fail).

Continuing to dig into this.

On Tue, 19 Feb 2008, Justin Piszcz wrote:

> Same,
>
> NetBackup 6.0MP4 trying to backup to a DDR.
>
> But I also tried backing up to another RAID array on the master and media 
> servers, same issue, not just DDR related.
>
> Justin.
>
> On Tue, 19 Feb 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Justin
>> 
>> We have been getting these errors while testing disk backups to a Data
>> Domain disk.  Can you give some more details about
>> your environment.
>> 
>> Carl
>> =
>> Carl Stehman
>> IT Distributed Services Team
>> Pepco Holdings, Inc.
>> 202-331-6619
>> Pager 301-765-2703
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Justin Piszcz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 02/19/2008 09:25 AM
>> 
>> To
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>> 
>> Subject
>> [Veritas-bu] EMM Error 800 when trying to backup to a disk storage unit.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The only post I have found on Google is my own and when that happens, its
>> not a good sign.
>> 
>> Wrong pool for a disk storage unit, anyone ever have this issue?
>> 
>> I've checked and compared the EMM settings on two different master server
>> environments, they're the same.
>> 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] EMM Error 800 when trying to backup to a disk storage unit.

2008-02-19 Thread Justin Piszcz
Using DDR 460s here, they work great/good throughput, what kind of 
throughput do you get, what kind of configuration do you have going on 
there?

Justin.

On Tue, 19 Feb 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Our environment is different, we are running NBU 6.5.1 on a 64bit Windows
> system connected to a DD580
> We have had problems getting expected throughput when we are backing up to
> disk.  Your comments seem
> to point to a NBU problem rather than a DDR issue, interesting.
> =
> Carl Stehman
> IT Distributed Services Team
> Pepco Holdings, Inc.
> 202-331-6619
> Pager 301-765-2703
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
> Justin Piszcz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 02/19/2008 10:15 AM
>
> To
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> veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject
> Re: [Veritas-bu] EMM Error 800 when trying to backup to a disk storage
> unit.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hmm, its working now after using the policy wizard to create the policy,
> (and the old one continues to fail).
>
> Continuing to dig into this.
>
> On Tue, 19 Feb 2008, Justin Piszcz wrote:
>
>> Same,
>>
>> NetBackup 6.0MP4 trying to backup to a DDR.
>>
>> But I also tried backing up to another RAID array on the master and
> media
>> servers, same issue, not just DDR related.
>>
>> Justin.
>>
>> On Tue, 19 Feb 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>> Justin
>>>
>>> We have been getting these errors while testing disk backups to a Data
>>> Domain disk.  Can you give some more details about
>>> your environment.
>>>
>>> Carl
>>> =
>>> Carl Stehman
>>> IT Distributed Services Team
>>> Pepco Holdings, Inc.
>>> 202-331-6619
>>> Pager 301-765-2703
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Justin Piszcz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> 02/19/2008 09:25 AM
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>>> To
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>>> Subject
>>> [Veritas-bu] EMM Error 800 when trying to backup to a disk storage
> unit.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The only post I have found on Google is my own and when that happens,
> its
>>> not a good sign.
>>>
>>> Wrong pool for a disk storage unit, anyone ever have this issue?
>>>
>>> I've checked and compared the EMM settings on two different master
> server
>>> environments, they're the same.
>>>
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Re: [Veritas-bu] EMM Error 800 when trying to backup to a disk storage unit.

2008-02-19 Thread Justin Piszcz


On Tue, 19 Feb 2008, Justin Piszcz wrote:

> I found the root cause.
>
> Will update shortly.
>

Go to:
1. /usr/openv/netbackup/db/class

I have two polices:
1. test
2. test3

Look at the residence pool for each policy.
1. grep ^POOL test/info
POOL Scratch NetBackup NetBackup NetBackup NetBackup NetBackup NetBackup NetBack
up NetBackup NetBackup
2. grep ^POOL test3/info
POOL NetBackup NetBackup NetBackup NetBackup NetBackup NetBackup NetBackup NetBa
ckup NetBackup NetBackup

Obviously the problem here is the pool is set to use Scratch--which does not
work for the disk storage units, it needs to be NetBackup, we use Scratch
here for scratch tapes.

So how do you fix it? I'd call this a nasty netbackup bug (if you copy an 
existing policy to a new one and only change the storage unit).

There are two ways to fix it:

1. Create a new policy, select the DDR and it should work.
2. Take your existing policy.
-> Select Policy storage unit.
-> Select a TAPE BASED unit.
-> Select policy volume pool:
-> Select NetBackup
-> Click Apply.
-> Now, select your DDR/disk unit.
-> This will overwrite the first pool selection in the info file of the
   policy.
-> $ grep ^POOL test/info
  POOL NetBackup NetBackup NetBackup NetBackup NetBackup NetBackup 
NetBackup 
NetBackup NetBackup NetBackup

3. Then re-run the backup and it is successful!

What a pain.

Justin.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] EMM Error 800 when trying to backup to a disk storage unit.

2008-02-19 Thread ckstehman
What was the root cause.
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Justin Piszcz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
02/19/2008 10:18 AM

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I found the root cause.

Will update shortly.

On Tue, 19 Feb 2008, Justin Piszcz wrote:

> Hmm, its working now after using the policy wizard to create the policy, 
(and 
> the old one continues to fail).
>
> Continuing to dig into this.
>
> On Tue, 19 Feb 2008, Justin Piszcz wrote:
>
>> Same,
>> 
>> NetBackup 6.0MP4 trying to backup to a DDR.
>> 
>> But I also tried backing up to another RAID array on the master and 
media 
>> servers, same issue, not just DDR related.
>> 
>> Justin.
>> 
>> On Tue, 19 Feb 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>>> Justin
>>> 
>>> We have been getting these errors while testing disk backups to a Data
>>> Domain disk.  Can you give some more details about
>>> your environment.
>>> 
>>> Carl
>>> =
>>> Carl Stehman
>>> IT Distributed Services Team
>>> Pepco Holdings, Inc.
>>> 202-331-6619
>>> Pager 301-765-2703
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Justin Piszcz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> 02/19/2008 09:25 AM
>>> 
>>> To
>>> veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
>>> cc
>>> 
>>> Subject
>>> [Veritas-bu] EMM Error 800 when trying to backup to a disk storage 
unit.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The only post I have found on Google is my own and when that happens, 
its
>>> not a good sign.
>>> 
>>> Wrong pool for a disk storage unit, anyone ever have this issue?
>>> 
>>> I've checked and compared the EMM settings on two different master 
server
>>> environments, they're the same.
>>> 
>>> Justin.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] EMM Error 800 when trying to backup to a disk storage unit.

2008-02-19 Thread ckstehman
Our environment is different, we are running NBU 6.5.1 on a 64bit Windows 
system connected to a DD580
We have had problems getting expected throughput when we are backing up to 
disk.  Your comments seem
to point to a NBU problem rather than a DDR issue, interesting.
=
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IT Distributed Services Team
Pepco Holdings, Inc.
202-331-6619
Pager 301-765-2703
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Hmm, its working now after using the policy wizard to create the policy, 
(and the old one continues to fail).

Continuing to dig into this.

On Tue, 19 Feb 2008, Justin Piszcz wrote:

> Same,
>
> NetBackup 6.0MP4 trying to backup to a DDR.
>
> But I also tried backing up to another RAID array on the master and 
media 
> servers, same issue, not just DDR related.
>
> Justin.
>
> On Tue, 19 Feb 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Justin
>> 
>> We have been getting these errors while testing disk backups to a Data
>> Domain disk.  Can you give some more details about
>> your environment.
>> 
>> Carl
>> =
>> Carl Stehman
>> IT Distributed Services Team
>> Pepco Holdings, Inc.
>> 202-331-6619
>> Pager 301-765-2703
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Justin Piszcz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 02/19/2008 09:25 AM
>> 
>> To
>> veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
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>> [Veritas-bu] EMM Error 800 when trying to backup to a disk storage 
unit.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The only post I have found on Google is my own and when that happens, 
its
>> not a good sign.
>> 
>> Wrong pool for a disk storage unit, anyone ever have this issue?
>> 
>> I've checked and compared the EMM settings on two different master 
server
>> environments, they're the same.
>> 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] EMM Error 800 when trying to backup to a disk storage unit.

2008-02-19 Thread Justin Piszcz
Same,

NetBackup 6.0MP4 trying to backup to a DDR.

But I also tried backing up to another RAID array on the master and media 
servers, same issue, not just DDR related.

Justin.

On Tue, 19 Feb 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Justin
>
> We have been getting these errors while testing disk backups to a Data
> Domain disk.  Can you give some more details about
> your environment.
>
> Carl
> =
> Carl Stehman
> IT Distributed Services Team
> Pepco Holdings, Inc.
> 202-331-6619
> Pager 301-765-2703
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
> Justin Piszcz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 02/19/2008 09:25 AM
>
> To
> veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> cc
>
> Subject
> [Veritas-bu] EMM Error 800 when trying to backup to a disk storage unit.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> The only post I have found on Google is my own and when that happens, its
> not a good sign.
>
> Wrong pool for a disk storage unit, anyone ever have this issue?
>
> I've checked and compared the EMM settings on two different master server
> environments, they're the same.
>
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[Veritas-bu] VMWare consolidated Backups

2008-02-19 Thread rcarlisle
 
Anyone using any pre/post freeze scripts to quiescent databases before the
VMware Consolidated backup kicks off that they would be willing to share?

Second question...anyone else having any issues with Mapped VM backups not
finding individual files when trying to do a restore from normal backups?
 
Reneé Carlisle 
ServerWare Corporation
 


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Re: [Veritas-bu] EMM Error 800 when trying to backup to a disk storage unit.

2008-02-19 Thread Justin Piszcz


On Tue, 19 Feb 2008, Justin Piszcz wrote:

> The only post I have found on Google is my own and when that happens, its
> not a good sign.
>
> Wrong pool for a disk storage unit, anyone ever have this issue?
>
> I've checked and compared the EMM settings on two different master server
> environments, they're the same.
>
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Here is from the EMM log (from a few attempts):

2,51216,118,118,1,1203430596456,879,3160062896,12:jobid=212330,0:,0:,2,(28|A17:__providermanager|A1:0|A26:Not
 
Enough Valid Resources|u32:2|)
3,51216,118,118,13179,1203431075123,879,3169860528,0:,0:,12:jobid=212336,(61|A12:jobid=212336|A38:{64F2946A-1DD2-11B2-A828-AD57391DD7DB}|)
2,51216,118,118,1,1203431075455,879,3162164144,12:jobid=212336,0:,0:,2,(28|A17:__providermanager|A1:0|A26:Not
 
Enough Valid Resources|u32:2|)
3,51216,118,118,13180,1203431084406,879,3169860528,0:,0:,12:jobid=212337,(61|A12:jobid=212337|A38:{6A7ADA14-1DD2-11B2-8D2D-D97D7F08BC34}|)
2,51216,118,118,1,1203431085358,879,3162164144,12:jobid=212337,0:,0:,2,(28|A17:__providermanager|A1:0|A26:Not
 
Enough Valid Resources|u32:2|)
3,51216,118,118,13181,1203431166561,879,3169860528,0:,0:,12:jobid=212338,(61|A12:jobid=212338|A38:{9B72CAAA-1DD1-11B2-B6D8-A3A7107BDF5B}|)
2,51216,118,118,1,1203431167069,879,3162164144,12:jobid=212338,0:,0:,2,(28|A17:__providermanager|A1:0|A26:Not
 
Enough Valid Resources|u32:2|)
3,51216,118,118,13182,1203431264885,879,3169860528,0:,0:,12:jobid=212339,(61|A12:jobid=212339|A38:{D60DD13C-1DD1-11B2-BD5C-FB1B554A5A68}|)
2,51216,118,118,1,1203431265220,879,3160062896,12:jobid=212339,0:,0:,2,(28|A17:__providermanager|A1:0|A26:Not
 
Enough Valid Resources|u32:2|)
3,51216,118,118,13183,1203431511200,879,3165658032,0:,0:,12:jobid=212340,(61|A12:jobid=212340|A38:{68DD7968-1DD2-11B2-B718-CA9CB65F0B0A}|)
2,51216,118,118,1,1203431511877,879,3162164144,12:jobid=212340,0:,0:,2,(28|A17:__providermanager|A1:0|A26:Not
 
Enough Valid Resources|u32:2|)
3,51216,118,118,13184,1203431573482,879,3171961776,0:,0:,12:jobid=212341,(61|A12:jobid=212341|A38:{8DFE3C50-1DD2-11B2-970E-5336786A95F3}|)

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Re: [Veritas-bu] EMM Error 800 when trying to backup to a disk storage unit.

2008-02-19 Thread ckstehman
Justin

We have been getting these errors while testing disk backups to a Data 
Domain disk.  Can you give some more details about
your environment.

Carl
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The only post I have found on Google is my own and when that happens, its 
not a good sign.

Wrong pool for a disk storage unit, anyone ever have this issue?

I've checked and compared the EMM settings on two different master server 
environments, they're the same.

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[Veritas-bu] EMM Error 800 when trying to backup to a disk storage unit.

2008-02-19 Thread Justin Piszcz
The only post I have found on Google is my own and when that happens, its 
not a good sign.

Wrong pool for a disk storage unit, anyone ever have this issue?

I've checked and compared the EMM settings on two different master server 
environments, they're the same.

Justin.
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[Veritas-bu] Backup of Exchange Mailboxes fails

2008-02-19 Thread bnetra

Exchange Server 2003 (V6.5).

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup of Exchange Mailboxes fails

2008-02-19 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)

Ok, any reason why you cannot just do information store backups, and let
Exchange handle Mailbox retentions.

Im not a fan of Mailbox Brick Level Backups (assuming this is what you
are trying to achieve).

Exchange 2003, comes with built in features to move away from this type
of backup.

Simon 

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Exchange Server 2003 (V6.5).

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup of Exchange Mailboxes fails

2008-02-19 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)

What version of Exchange are you running ? 

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Using NBU 6.0MP4 on Windows.

Backup of Exchange Mailboxes is failing with the error:

2/19/2008 11:00:31 AM - Warning bpbrm(pid=5980) from client
bbkmailsrv.services.bbkonline.com: WRN - unable to successfully
enumerate folder: Microsoft Exchange Mailboxes:\

The above message comes and backup fails with status 1 in the beginning
itself (without backing up anything).

I am unable to find a proper resolution to the above error. I read on
Symantec support site the workaround for this is 'Turn off Single
Instance Store for mailbox backups'. I am unable to understand this and
what action to take i.e. how to turn off SIS. I also read that this bug
is fixed in NBU 5.0MP6. So I should not be impacted by this but still I
am getting this error.

What is the solution? Please help.

Thanks.

BNetra

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[Veritas-bu] Backup of Exchange Mailboxes fails

2008-02-19 Thread bnetra

Using NBU 6.0MP4 on Windows.

Backup of Exchange Mailboxes is failing with the error:

2/19/2008 11:00:31 AM - Warning bpbrm(pid=5980) from client 
bbkmailsrv.services.bbkonline.com: WRN - unable to successfully enumerate 
folder: Microsoft Exchange Mailboxes:\

The above message comes and backup fails with status 1 in the beginning itself 
(without backing up anything).

I am unable to find a proper resolution to the above error. I read on Symantec 
support site the workaround for this is 'Turn off Single Instance Store for 
mailbox backups'. I am unable to understand this and what action to take i.e. 
how to turn off SIS. I also read that this bug is fixed in NBU 5.0MP6. So I 
should not be impacted by this but still I am getting this error.

What is the solution? Please help.

Thanks.

BNetra

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