Re: [Veritas-bu] Win XP client Deduplication

2008-07-04 Thread Dave Carpe
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Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 4:55 PM
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Win XP client Deduplication

I have 75 windows client that I would like to backup over the wan. I 
can't use DLO since we don't have a Windows Domain. I would like to do 
client deduplication.

I have a few questions in order to verify what I understand.

Is there some deduplication built into NB 6.5.2/6.5.3 Win XP client?
[DKC] No, there is no deduplication in the basic client

If I have to purchase PureDisk 6.5, I have further questions.
1) If a client has two files with the same data, do both files get sent 
to the Netbackup Server? 
[DKC] If both files are identical the all the fingerprints will be
identical. If the fingerprint exists anywhere within the PureDisk Global
Environment, the data associated with that fingerprint will not be
backed up. Fingerprints are 128K in size. So the first file will get
backed up and the second file will simply have meta data indicating the
fingerprints that are already in the storage pool that contain that
file's data.

2) If I have two clients with the same files, do both files get sent to 
the Netbackup Server?
[DKC] No. The first one that gets backed up will send the data
associated with it's fingerprints to PureDisk. The next server will see
that fingerprints already exist for its files and will not be backed up
and the metabase will associate that client's files with the appropriate
fingerprints.
3) Do I need to update the Netbackup Client to support PureDisk?
[DKC] The NetBackup 6.5 Client includes the PureDisk 6.5 Client.

Thanks
Karl





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Re: [Veritas-bu] Win XP client Deduplication

2008-07-04 Thread Ed Wilts
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Karl Rossing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have 75 windows client that I would like to backup over the wan. I
> can't use DLO since we don't have a Windows Domain. I would like to do
> client deduplication.
>
> I have a few questions in order to verify what I understand.
>
> Is there some deduplication built into NB 6.5.2/6.5.3 Win XP client?
>

No.  NetBackup's only dedupe is via PureDisk.


> If I have to purchase PureDisk 6.5, I have further questions.


We haven't installed PureDisk on  XP, we do have it installed on a bunch of
Windows 2003 servers (I'm not the PD expert in my group - somebody else is
doing most of the PD work).  We are not yet using it as NetBackup storage
unit - that can't happen until we install NBU 6.5.2.  Today, the data gets
sent to a dedicated PureDisk appliance which is SuSe-based.

1) If a client has two files with the same data, do both files get sent
> to the Netbackup Server?


 Nope - the client sends enough information over to be able to determine
whether or not any data needs to be sent.

2) If I have two clients with the same files, do both files get sent to
> the Netbackup Server?


Nope.  In fact, we've "seeded" our PureDisk server with copies of the data
to speed up the initial backup of the remote sites - this is especially
useful if the remote site has a slow network link.  Dump the data to a USB
drive at the remote site, ship it to where the PureDisk server is, and back
it up first.

>
> 3) Do I need to update the Netbackup Client to support PureDisk?


You don't actually have to install the NetBackup client at all.  The
PureDisk interface to restore files is actually pretty good.

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[Veritas-bu] Win XP client Deduplication

2008-07-04 Thread Karl Rossing
I have 75 windows client that I would like to backup over the wan. I 
can't use DLO since we don't have a Windows Domain. I would like to do 
client deduplication.

I have a few questions in order to verify what I understand.

Is there some deduplication built into NB 6.5.2/6.5.3 Win XP client?

If I have to purchase PureDisk 6.5, I have further questions.
1) If a client has two files with the same data, do both files get sent 
to the Netbackup Server?
2) If I have two clients with the same files, do both files get sent to 
the Netbackup Server?
3) Do I need to update the Netbackup Client to support PureDisk?

Thanks
Karl





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