[Veritas-bu] Netbackup backing up a dpm server

[bruceephx]

I am backing up my DPM 2006 server as if it were a giant file server.  I am 
using VSS to backup open files.  I am backing up each replica individually. I 
have up to 8 streams (35 replicas) multiplexed to a tape target for the Full 
because it keeps a tape drive busy enough.  For INC backups I send it to a dssu 
then duplicate to tape.  I also backup the DPM server without the replicas as I 
would with any other Windows server (don't cross mount points).

I tried to backup some of the bigger replicas using Flashbackup as each replica 
is in its own volume.  But NBU Flashbackup doesn't like the GUID in the volume 
reference.  I recently found if I also assign a drive letter to the replica 
volume, I can then use Flashbackup of the volumes.  So I haven't tested it for 
performance yet.  Thats for after I get back from vacation. 8)

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[Veritas-bu] question on client names

[judy_hinchcliffe]

At the start we added client names to netbackup as just the short name

 

Now they have been added different domains so now I got server that are
a little scattered

 

When I go to do updates I have to do each domain as a group.

 

Not knowing what domain a server is in have to do some commands and make
a list.

 

So I was just wondering.  When you add servers to netbackup do you use
short name or FQDN.

If short how do you handle installs on the different domains?

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] How to properly calculate the Catalog

[Renee Carlisle]

Keep in mind if you do BMR backups..it adds to the catalog space as well

From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Todd Jackxon
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 12:46 PM
To: Stafford, Geoff
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] How to properly calculate the Catalog

Thanks Geoff

Thanks for pointing out that difference .. I didn't add the Exchange backup 
totals to the Month-end Fulls.
This would be the same amount as Weekly but only a longer retention.

Just seems like a very large amount for some reason (240GB). Seems I am missing 
something here.

Thanks
Jack




On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Stafford, Geoff 
mailto:gstaff...@barclaycardus.com>> wrote:

That's the same method I've used.  I think there is a little fluff in the 2% 
and you can also obviously cut this down by compressing the catalog after 30 
days or whatever.  The only thing I noticed is you are calculating 30 
incrementals per month, I'm assuming you actually do 6 incrementals per week 
(no incremental on same day as full) so it would be 24 not 30.  Also, just out 
of my own curiosity, why are your monthly fulls less than your weekly fulls?  I 
would expect them to be equal or possibly the monthly would be larger if you 
are including more data.





Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:40:35 -0400

From: Todd Jackxon 
http://netbackup.info/>@gmail.com>

Subject: [Veritas-bu] How to properly calculate the Catalog

To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu

Message-ID:

  
mailto:f7e0214e0903130840o1300e963l20b9c06bd88e...@mail.gmail.com>>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"



Hello All,



I am trying to use the formula for calculating the catalog and not sure about 
the results. Has anyone Calculated the catalog using the formula in the 
Performance Tuning guide?

Can you please explain how to properly do this?



1 ? "When the formula states total backups" ... is this for one Full backup of 
all data for one day?



 Schedule



Incremental - daily - retention 5 weeks

Weekend Full - retention 6 weeks (only first 3 weekends) Month-End - retention 
1 year (last Saturday of the month)



Below is my attempt to calculate this. Any clarification would be appreciated.





-



614GB data back up   * 3 Full Backups (1842GB) * 2 months retention (3684GB)

= 3.5 TB

Full





447GB data back up   * 1 Full Monthly Backup (447GB) * 12 months retention

(5364GB) = 5.2 TB

Month End Full





122GB

incremental * 30 incr backups monthly (3660GB) * 5 week retention (1.25

months) 4605GB = 3.5 TB

--



3.5 TB incr

3.5 TB Weekly Full

5.2 TB Month-End Full



= 12.2 TB = Netbackup catalog size (2%) =  240GB Catalog space







This does not seem right???



Thanks

Jack





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Re: [Veritas-bu] How to properly calculate the Catalog

[Todd Jackxon]

 Thanks Geoff

Thanks for pointing out that difference .. I didn't add the Exchange backup
totals to the Month-end Fulls.
This would be the same amount as Weekly but only a longer retention.

Just seems like a very large amount for some reason (240GB). Seems I am
missing something here.

Thanks
Jack




On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Stafford, Geoff <
gstaff...@barclaycardus.com> wrote:

>  That’s the same method I’ve used.  I think there is a little fluff in the
> 2% and you can also obviously cut this down by compressing the catalog after
> 30 days or whatever.  The only thing I noticed is you are calculating 30
> incrementals per month, I’m assuming you actually do 6 incrementals per week
> (no incremental on same day as full) so it would be 24 not 30.  Also, just
> out of my own curiosity, why are your monthly fulls less than your weekly
> fulls?  I would expect them to be equal or possibly the monthly would be
> larger if you are including more data.
>
>
>
>
>
> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:40:35 -0400
>
> From: Todd Jackxon 
>
> Subject: [Veritas-bu] How to properly calculate the Catalog
>
> To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
>
> Message-ID:
>
>   
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>
>
>
> Hello All,
>
>
>
> I am trying to use the formula for calculating the catalog and not sure
> about the results. Has anyone Calculated the catalog using the formula in
> the Performance Tuning guide?
>
> Can you please explain how to properly do this?
>
>
>
> 1 ? "When the formula states total backups" ... is this for one Full backup
> of all data for one day?
>
>
>
>  Schedule
>
>
>
> Incremental - daily - retention 5 weeks
>
> Weekend Full - retention 6 weeks (only first 3 weekends) Month-End -
> retention 1 year (last Saturday of the month)
>
>
>
> Below is my attempt to calculate this. Any clarification would be
> appreciated.
>
>
>
>
>
> -
>
>
>
> 614GB data back up   * 3 Full Backups (1842GB) * 2 months retention
> (3684GB)
>
> = 3.5 TB
>
> Full
>
>
>
>
>
> 447GB data back up   * 1 Full Monthly Backup (447GB) * 12 months retention
>
> (5364GB) = 5.2 TB
>
> Month End Full
>
>
>
>
>
> 122GB
>
> incremental * 30 incr backups monthly (3660GB) * 5 week retention (1.25
>
> months) 4605GB = 3.5 TB
>
> --
>
>
>
> 3.5 TB incr
>
> 3.5 TB Weekly Full
>
> 5.2 TB Month-End Full
>
>
>
> = 12.2 TB = Netbackup catalog size (2%) =  240GB Catalog space
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> This does not seem right???
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Jack
>
>
>
>
>
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[Veritas-bu] How to properly calculate the Catalog

[Stafford, Geoff]

That's the same method I've used.  I think there is a little fluff in
the 2% and you can also obviously cut this down by compressing the
catalog after 30 days or whatever.  The only thing I noticed is you are
calculating 30 incrementals per month, I'm assuming you actually do 6
incrementals per week (no incremental on same day as full) so it would
be 24 not 30.  Also, just out of my own curiosity, why are your monthly
fulls less than your weekly fulls?  I would expect them to be equal or
possibly the monthly would be larger if you are including more data.

 

 

Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:40:35 -0400

From: Todd Jackxon 

Subject: [Veritas-bu] How to properly calculate the Catalog

To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu

Message-ID:

  

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"

 

Hello All,

 

I am trying to use the formula for calculating the catalog and not sure
about the results. Has anyone Calculated the catalog using the formula
in the Performance Tuning guide?

Can you please explain how to properly do this?

 

1 ? "When the formula states total backups" ... is this for one Full
backup of all data for one day?

 

 Schedule

 

Incremental - daily - retention 5 weeks

Weekend Full - retention 6 weeks (only first 3 weekends) Month-End -
retention 1 year (last Saturday of the month)

 

Below is my attempt to calculate this. Any clarification would be
appreciated.

 

 

-

 

614GB data back up   * 3 Full Backups (1842GB) * 2 months retention
(3684GB)

= 3.5 TB

Full

 

 

447GB data back up   * 1 Full Monthly Backup (447GB) * 12 months
retention

(5364GB) = 5.2 TB

Month End Full

 

 

122GB

incremental * 30 incr backups monthly (3660GB) * 5 week retention (1.25

months) 4605GB = 3.5 TB

--

 

3.5 TB incr

3.5 TB Weekly Full

5.2 TB Month-End Full

 

= 12.2 TB = Netbackup catalog size (2%) =  240GB Catalog space

 

 

 

This does not seem right???

 

Thanks

Jack

 



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[Veritas-bu] How to properly calculate the Catalog

[Todd Jackxon]

Hello All,

I am trying to use the formula for calculating the catalog and not sure
about the results. Has anyone
Calculated the catalog using the formula in the Performance Tuning guide?
Can you please explain how to properly do this?

1 – "When the formula states total backups" ... is this for one Full backup
of all data for one day?

 Schedule

Incremental - daily - retention 5 weeks
Weekend Full - retention 6 weeks (only first 3 weekends)
Month-End - retention 1 year (last Saturday of the month)

Below is my attempt to calculate this. Any clarification would be
appreciated.


-

614GB data back up   * 3 Full Backups (1842GB) * 2 months retention (3684GB)
= 3.5 TB
Full


447GB data back up   * 1 Full Monthly Backup (447GB) * 12 months retention
(5364GB) = 5.2 TB
Month End Full


122GB
incremental * 30 incr backups monthly (3660GB) * 5 week retention (1.25
months) 4605GB = 3.5 TB
--

3.5 TB incr
3.5 TB Weekly Full
5.2 TB Month-End Full

= 12.2 TB = Netbackup catalog size (2%) =  240GB Catalog space



This does not seem right???

Thanks
Jack
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Problem installing 6.5.3 client on RHEL 5 server

[Marianne Van Den Berg]

All unix versions are included in the client patch. 

Check if downloaded file is correct size - size and checksum details
should be in README.

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Problem installing 6.5.3 client on RHEL 5
server

Maybe the patch you have untar is not for that system. Check it

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Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 5:20 PM
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Problem installing 6.5.3 client on RHEL 5 server


Has anyone else run into this?

There is 1 pack available in /home/*:
(* denotes installed pack)

NB_6.5.3

Enter pack name (or q) [q]: NB_6.5.3

ERROR: No readable product version file was found, please verify the
version file exists and that this pack is appropriate for this system.

There is 1 pack available in /home/*:
(* denotes installed pack)

NB_6.5.3

Enter pack name (or q) [q]: NB_6.5.3

ERROR: No readable product version file was found, please verify the
version file exists and that this pack is appropriate for this system.

There is 1 pack available in /home/*:
(* denotes installed pack)

NB_6.5.3

Enter pack name (or q) [q]: q
Exiting NB_update.install

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Problem installing 6.5.3 client on RHEL 5 server

[judy_hinchcliffe]

I agree, this message means you have the wrong set of files for this
server

AND.

The NB_6.5.3 looks like a master/media install
You have to have the NB_CLT_6.5.3 as well that has to be installed
first.


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To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Problem installing 6.5.3 client on RHEL 5 server


Has anyone else run into this?

There is 1 pack available in /home/*:
(* denotes installed pack)

NB_6.5.3

Enter pack name (or q) [q]: NB_6.5.3

ERROR: No readable product version file was found, please verify the
version file exists and that this pack is appropriate for this system.

There is 1 pack available in /home/*:
(* denotes installed pack)

NB_6.5.3

Enter pack name (or q) [q]: NB_6.5.3

ERROR: No readable product version file was found, please verify the
version file exists and that this pack is appropriate for this system.

There is 1 pack available in /home/*:
(* denotes installed pack)

NB_6.5.3

Enter pack name (or q) [q]: q
Exiting NB_update.install

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Problem installing 6.5.3 client on RHEL 5 server

[Jeff Lightner]

Not doing 6.5.3 yet but from my UNIX (HP-UX) master to install on RHEL5
I do the following:

1) Create a Client policy so it knows what version of the client
software (Linux, HP-UX etc...) to install.  I select RedHat 2.6 as OS
for the that.  I do it in the Java GUI.

2) From command line on the master I run (note this is all one line):
/bin/sh -c LC_ALL=american; export LC_ALL;
"/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/install_client_files" ssh ""

Note that you need to insure you've installed xinetd package before
doing this.  Run rpm -q xinetd to see if it is there.  If not run yum
install xinetd.


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Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 11:20 AM
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Problem installing 6.5.3 client on RHEL 5 server


Has anyone else run into this?

There is 1 pack available in /home/*:
(* denotes installed pack)

NB_6.5.3

Enter pack name (or q) [q]: NB_6.5.3

ERROR: No readable product version file was found, please verify the
version file exists and that this pack is appropriate for this system.

There is 1 pack available in /home/*:
(* denotes installed pack)

NB_6.5.3

Enter pack name (or q) [q]: NB_6.5.3

ERROR: No readable product version file was found, please verify the
version file exists and that this pack is appropriate for this system.

There is 1 pack available in /home/*:
(* denotes installed pack)

NB_6.5.3

Enter pack name (or q) [q]: q
Exiting NB_update.install

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Problem installing 6.5.3 client on RHEL 5 server

[Tim Hoke]

NB_6.5.3 is the server patch. If this is a pure client only system,  
then you need the NB_CLT_6.5.3 patch.

The error happens because the installer is looking for a /usr/openv/ 
netbackup/version file. That file only exists in servers. The client  
version is kept at /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/version.

HTH
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On Mar 11, 2009, at 10:19 AM, brent4313  wrote:

>
> Has anyone else run into this?
>
> There is 1 pack available in /home/*:
> (* denotes installed pack)
>
>NB_6.5.3
>
> Enter pack name (or q) [q]: NB_6.5.3
>
> ERROR: No readable product version file was found, please verify the
> version file exists and that this pack is appropriate for this system.
>
> There is 1 pack available in /home/*:
> (* denotes installed pack)
>
>NB_6.5.3
>
> Enter pack name (or q) [q]: NB_6.5.3
>
> ERROR: No readable product version file was found, please verify the
> version file exists and that this pack is appropriate for this system.
>
> There is 1 pack available in /home/*:
> (* denotes installed pack)
>
>NB_6.5.3
>
> Enter pack name (or q) [q]: q
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[Veritas-bu] how to increase netbackup performance

[venkatesh111]

Hi,
NetBackup 6.5 Backup Planning and Performance Tuning Guide ia availble at  
http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/307083.htm use this to get optimal 
performance, this is very good guide

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Problem installing 6.5.3 client on RHEL 5 server

[smpt]

Maybe the patch you have untar is not for that system. Check it

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Problem installing 6.5.3 client on RHEL 5 server


Has anyone else run into this?

There is 1 pack available in /home/*:
(* denotes installed pack)

NB_6.5.3

Enter pack name (or q) [q]: NB_6.5.3

ERROR: No readable product version file was found, please verify the
version file exists and that this pack is appropriate for this system.

There is 1 pack available in /home/*:
(* denotes installed pack)

NB_6.5.3

Enter pack name (or q) [q]: NB_6.5.3

ERROR: No readable product version file was found, please verify the
version file exists and that this pack is appropriate for this system.

There is 1 pack available in /home/*:
(* denotes installed pack)

NB_6.5.3

Enter pack name (or q) [q]: q
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