Re: [Veritas-bu] SAN Switch Change caused NBU7 to lose tape drives

2010-07-07 Thread Shyam Hazari 
Have you tried cold booting the servers ?

-Shyam

On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Brandon35 <
netbackup-fo...@backupcentral.com> wrote:

>
> Hi everyone,
>
> In one of my environments we replaced our old SAN switch with a new Cisco.
> We went from 1 fabric on the old switch to 2 fabrics on the new Cisco
> switch.
>
> We split up the tape drives 1, 2, 3, 4 on Fabric A. 5,6,7,8,9 on Fabric B.
>
> After this switch, our media servers are having enormous trouble seeing the
> tape drives at all. One media server see's 6 tape drives which makes no
> sense at all. One media server see's all 9. Another media server see's 7.
>
> No rhyme or reason to any of it. Why would a switch change cause this?
>
> Our zone's have been thoroughly checked multiple times. Each tape drive is
> presented to the media servers, I assure you.
>
> One of our Windows media servers see's only 6 tape drives in Device
> Manager, but San Surfer shows that the HBA see's all 9
>
> A Solaris 9 media server see's 9 tape drives, but netbackup only see's 7.
>
> So, what do you guys think could be going on? Do I need to do something to
> the HBA's like reset, so they forget the previous paths? Could tape drivers
> be the potential issue, can tape drivers cause an issue with 1 switch over
> another? I am completely out of ideas so im throwing random ideas out...
> Anyone??
>
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Re: [Veritas-bu] SAN Switch Change caused NBU7 to lose tape drives

2010-07-07 Thread Martin, Jonathan 
Just a shot in the dark here, but is it possible the old drives are
hidden because of the path changes? You can check using this support
article. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315539 Also, have you run the
TUR fix for your fiber tape drives?
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/842411

-Jonathan



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Hi everyone,

In one of my environments we replaced our old SAN switch with a new
Cisco. We went from 1 fabric on the old switch to 2 fabrics on the new
Cisco switch.

We split up the tape drives 1, 2, 3, 4 on Fabric A. 5,6,7,8,9 on Fabric
B.

After this switch, our media servers are having enormous trouble seeing
the tape drives at all. One media server see's 6 tape drives which makes
no sense at all. One media server see's all 9. Another media server
see's 7.

No rhyme or reason to any of it. Why would a switch change cause this?

Our zone's have been thoroughly checked multiple times. Each tape drive
is presented to the media servers, I assure you.

One of our Windows media servers see's only 6 tape drives in Device
Manager, but San Surfer shows that the HBA see's all 9

A Solaris 9 media server see's 9 tape drives, but netbackup only see's
7.

So, what do you guys think could be going on? Do I need to do something
to the HBA's like reset, so they forget the previous paths? Could tape
drivers be the potential issue, can tape drivers cause an issue with 1
switch over another? I am completely out of ideas so im throwing random
ideas out... Anyone??

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[Veritas-bu] SAN Switch Change caused NBU7 to lose tape drives

2010-07-07 Thread Brandon35 

Hi everyone,

In one of my environments we replaced our old SAN switch with a new Cisco. We 
went from 1 fabric on the old switch to 2 fabrics on the new Cisco switch.

We split up the tape drives 1, 2, 3, 4 on Fabric A. 5,6,7,8,9 on Fabric B.

After this switch, our media servers are having enormous trouble seeing the 
tape drives at all. One media server see's 6 tape drives which makes no sense 
at all. One media server see's all 9. Another media server see's 7.

No rhyme or reason to any of it. Why would a switch change cause this?

Our zone's have been thoroughly checked multiple times. Each tape drive is 
presented to the media servers, I assure you.

One of our Windows media servers see's only 6 tape drives in Device Manager, 
but San Surfer shows that the HBA see's all 9

A Solaris 9 media server see's 9 tape drives, but netbackup only see's 7.

So, what do you guys think could be going on? Do I need to do something to the 
HBA's like reset, so they forget the previous paths? Could tape drivers be the 
potential issue, can tape drivers cause an issue with 1 switch over another? I 
am completely out of ideas so im throwing random ideas out... Anyone??

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Re: [Veritas-bu] PureDisk Dedup

2010-07-07 Thread Jonathan Dyck 
Certainly works from my point of view.  I have limited experience with
it (have not tried all the bells and whistles),  but was impressed with
the following:

- setup was incredibly simple.  Just don't pick the root of a disk (ie:
c:\directory, not c:\)
- single stream backup and restore performance was good on limited disk
resources (I've had 30-50 MB/s on RAID6 1TB SATA drives (albeit it's a
10+2) but on a very modest Hitachi SMS100 array)
- dedupe ratio seemed to be average
- used in conjunction with vStorage API backups for VMware seems
promising

Things I'd be wary of:

- Scalability and (if you're a shop with segregated backup/storage
duties) the ability of a typical backup admin to identify the correct
bottleneck as you grow your pool.  I haven't seen a tuning guide (per
se) for designing your PureDisk pool, and how it scales (for # of media
servers,  size/geometry of database disk etc), but it could very well be
out there and available.  This might alleviate some of the concern
there.
- Global dedupe ratio for large environments
- Cost.  It's rather pricey.

Just a quick reply here, but I can try to be more specific if you have a
particular concern.

Cheers,
Jon



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To all,

We are on the verge of implementing puredisk dedup into our NBU
environment.

I have read up on this feature, but I would prefer to get real life
comments on this solution, so with that being said: 

What has been your experience with PureDisk dedupe? Does it work? What
are some gotchas?, etc.

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[Veritas-bu] Migrate profile from one NBU server to another NBU server

2010-07-07 Thread bolobaboo kabootar 
Hi
I have old NBU server 5.1. It has tons of profile. Our new nbu server
is NBU 6.5.4. Does anybody has any script which would migrate all
profiles from old server to new server ?
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Performance tuning Windows 2008 client

2010-07-07 Thread Martin, Jonathan 
Are you hitting multiple VMs simultaneously on the same datastore? Is
the speed better when you only run one backup at a time? We've
identified serious performance issues related to requesting to many
random I/Os from a raid group as the same time. Backing up multiple VMs
and rebooting multiple VMs on the same datastore can cause serious
latency spikes. Latency is a bit tricky to track down, but if you open
the VC, increase metrics gather to maximum, and select the host the VM
is on you can see the latency for any given lun. Anything sustained
higher than 20ms is a performance problem waiting to happen. Ideally we
shoot for <10ms.

 

Let me know if you need more information or help tracking down these
metrics.

 

-Jonathan

 

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> Do these contain lots and lots of little files?  If so, have you
considered FlashBackup? 

The backup is 19GB over 35,000 files.  That's pretty typical.  It took
17 hours to run.  That's not typical.  We hope to upgrade to NBU7 later
this year and take advantage of the new features for backing up VMs 

> Do you have enough memory on these guests.  We've seen some issues
where one of our VMware admins decided to give all of the new guests
VERY little memory,
forgetting that after he provisioned the guest he was supposed to
increase it to a reasonable size.

The guests all have 4GB memory. 

> If you do network exerciser from the guest to the media server, what
sort of performance do you get?  For example, have you tried something
like an FTP or a simple
file copy directly from the guest to the media server? 

I copied a folder containing 215MB of files from the guest to the media
server.  It took nearly two minutes.  A lot slower than I'd have
expected for a 1Gb LAN, so to have a basis of comparason, I copied 206MB
of files from a 2k8 server running on bare metal to the same media
server, and that copy took about half the time.  Not stellar
performance, but still better than the VM.  This is all repeatable. 

What I've observed is that at the start of the backup, we get good
performance, but it slows after 20 minutes or so.  The activity also
seems to happen in bursts with periods of good speeds followed by
periods of poor performance. 

I'm a UNIX administrator by trade, so troubleshooting Windows issues is
a bit foreign to me.

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Sr. Data Protection Administrator 
Global Technology Services - AHS
Mylan, Inc.
5005 Greenbag Road
Morgantown, WV 26501 

jack.fores...@mylan.com 

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On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 9:28 AM,  wrote: 

We're observing some significant performance issues with some of our
Windows 2008 SP2 clients.   
Backing up to a DD880 VTL, one client in particular is running at just
over 300KB/sec.  Others are running 2-3MB/sec.   
The clients in question are all virtual machines running on VMWare ESX
3.5.0 238493.  Our Windows 2008 clients running on bare metal are
performing well.
Our NetBackup environment is version 6.5.3 on the master/media server
and the client. 

We've tried tuning the net buffer size, but that made no difference.
Are there other things we can try? 

Do these contain lots and lots of little files?  If so, have you
considered FlashBackup?
Do you have enough memory on these guests.  We've seen some issues where
one of our VMware admins decided to give all of the new guests VERY
little memory,
forgetting that after he provisioned the guest he was supposed to
increase it to a reasonable size.

If you do network exerciser from the guest to the media server, what
sort of performance do you get?  For example, have you tried something
like an FTP or a simple
file copy directly from the guest to the media server?

   .../Ed

Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE 
ewi...@ewilts.org 
Linkedin   

  

We have a case open with Symantec, but I thought I'd check here to see
if anyone else has run into this issue.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Performance tuning Windows 2008 client

2010-07-07 Thread Jack . Forester 
> Do these contain lots and lots of little files?  If so, have you 
considered FlashBackup?

The backup is 19GB over 35,000 files.  That's pretty typical.  It took 17 
hours to run.  That's not typical.  We hope to upgrade to NBU7 later this 
year and take advantage of the new features for backing up VMs

> Do you have enough memory on these guests.  We've seen some issues where 
one of our VMware admins decided to give all of the new guests VERY little 
memory,
forgetting that after he provisioned the guest he was supposed to increase 
it to a reasonable size.

The guests all have 4GB memory.

> If you do network exerciser from the guest to the media server, what 
sort of performance do you get?  For example, have you tried something 
like an FTP or a simple
file copy directly from the guest to the media server?

I copied a folder containing 215MB of files from the guest to the media 
server.  It took nearly two minutes.  A lot slower than I'd have expected 
for a 1Gb LAN, so to have a basis of comparason, I copied 206MB of files 
from a 2k8 server running on bare metal to the same media server, and that 
copy took about half the time.  Not stellar performance, but still better 
than the VM.  This is all repeatable.

What I've observed is that at the start of the backup, we get good 
performance, but it slows after 20 minutes or so.  The activity also seems 
to happen in bursts with periods of good speeds followed by periods of 
poor performance.

I'm a UNIX administrator by trade, so troubleshooting Windows issues is a 
bit foreign to me.

-- 
Jack Forester, Jr. 
Sr. Data Protection Administrator 
Global Technology Services - AHS
Mylan, Inc.
5005 Greenbag Road
Morgantown, WV 26501 

jack.fores...@mylan.com 

Phone: +1.304.554.6039
Cell: +1.412.805.5313



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On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 9:28 AM,  wrote:

We're observing some significant performance issues with some of our 
Windows 2008 SP2 clients.  
Backing up to a DD880 VTL, one client in particular is running at just 
over 300KB/sec.  Others are running 2-3MB/sec.  
The clients in question are all virtual machines running on VMWare ESX 
3.5.0 238493.  Our Windows 2008 clients running on bare metal are 
performing well.   
Our NetBackup environment is version 6.5.3 on the master/media server and 
the client. 

We've tried tuning the net buffer size, but that made no difference.  Are 
there other things we can try? 

Do these contain lots and lots of little files?  If so, have you 
considered FlashBackup?
Do you have enough memory on these guests.  We've seen some issues where 
one of our VMware admins decided to give all of the new guests VERY little 
memory,
forgetting that after he provisioned the guest he was supposed to increase 
it to a reasonable size.

If you do network exerciser from the guest to the media server, what sort 
of performance do you get?  For example, have you tried something like an 
FTP or a simple
file copy directly from the guest to the media server?

   .../Ed

Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE 
ewi...@ewilts.org
Linkedin

 

We have a case open with Symantec, but I thought I'd check here to see if 
anyone else has run into this issue.
-- 
Jack Forester, Jr. 
Sr. Data Protection Administrator 
Global Technology Services - AHS
Mylan, Inc.
5005 Greenbag Road
Morgantown, WV 26501 

jack.fores...@mylan.com 

Phone: +1.304.554.6039 
Cell: +1.412.805.5313 
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2010-07-07 Thread pranav batra 

Hello,

http://support.veritas.com/docs/316845 
Restore
 and duplications from the OpenStorage disk option need not use the same media 
server that wrote the backup image.  This is by design as NetBackup is trying 
to use the media server with the least load, in accordance with Media Server 
Load Balancing strategy. 


Now my question is:-
If for a single LSU,we select to use multiple media servers:-Will the backup 
use the media server with least load ??
do we have this thing documented anywhere ?

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Catalog Copy ???////?/

2010-07-07 Thread Martin, Jonathan 
I tried to find  a tool that retained compression on a per-file basis to
perform a catalog migration but I could not find one.  I considered
custom writing my own in .net but never got around to it. 

 

Why not simply compress the entire DR volume? You'll take a slight
performance hit come DR time, but you probably don't need the entire
catalog at that point anyway.  I only copy the last 3 weeks of backups
to DR for hot restores.  The rest of the images will be restored cold
from the most recent catalog backup. I use the following command run
from a scheduled task on my masters.

 

robocopy "D:\Program Files\VERITAS\NetBackup\db\images"  /S
/ZB /PURGE /MAXAGE:21 /TBD /R:3 /W:3 /LOG: /XD tmp

 

Be sure to exclude tmp folders, these are where running backups write
their image files. If you try to robocopy an image that is being
generated you will kill the backup. Once the image is complete, it will
be moved to the appropriate subfolder.

 

Btw, I've tested this numerous times in DR scenarios and it has never
failed.

 

-Jonathan

 

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Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 11:51 AM
To: Veritas
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Catalog Copy ????/

 

 

Hello Geeks,

 

Need help on one issue.

 

 

We have a catalog of aroung 250 gb.

Its on a F drive which is coming from SAN.

This drive is composed of 3 luns.

 

Now for DR purpose we want the data to copy from this drive to another
drive that will be composed of a single lun of 300 Gb.

 

Now we used a robocopy method to copy this data:-But this has  a bug
that it does not retain the compression of files.

 

What other method you suggest to copy the data to other drive?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



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Re: [Veritas-bu] Catalog Copy ???////?/

2010-07-07 Thread Ed Wilts 
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 10:51 AM, pranav batra wrote:

> We have a catalog of aroung 250 gb.
> Its on a F drive which is coming from SAN.
> This drive is composed of 3 luns.
>
> Now for DR purpose we want the data to copy from this drive to another
> drive that will be composed of a single lun of 300 Gb.
>
> Now we used a robocopy method to copy this data:-But this has  a bug that
> it does not retain the compression of files.
>
> What other method you suggest to copy the data to other drive?
>

NetBackup 7 gives you a FREE license to do catalog replication using
Symantec's RealTime product.  This is a fully supported method of giving you
DR for your catalog unlike any robocopy or rsync solution you can put
together.

>From an FAQ at http://www.zones.com/images/pdf/symantec_netbackup7_faq.pdf

Q. What are the advantages of using NetBackup RealTime 7 with NetBackup?
A. NetBackup RealTime is part of the NetBackup platform and can be sold as a
standalone product or as an add-on option to an existing NetBackup
environment. NetBackup RealTime provides replication and continuous data
protection (CDP) for critical applications to help meet tight recovery and
disaster recovery objectives. Because RealTime protects continuously, it
eliminates the need for a backup window, yet allows administrators to
recover to the latest second or to any point in
time—which means near-zero data loss. The benefit of using the two together
is that it brings together backup, CDP, live
replication and application-consistent protection, all in one, for the most
comprehensive protection possible.

Q: You now offer free RealTime 7 replication to protect the NetBackup
catalog. Why?
A. Because recovery cannot begin without the system that does recovery,
protecting the NetBackup catalog is a critical part of any disaster recovery
plan—and we felt that this protection was too vital a resource for our
customers to charge for it. With Symantec NetBackup RealTime™, a user can
replicate any NetBackup catalog to a remote disaster recovery (DR) location.
This eliminates the need to do hot catalog backups to tape and ship the
tapes off site. To make this easy, detailed setup documentation and the
RealTime installation DVD are included with every NetBackup 7 DVD media kit
or download.

   .../Ed

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Catalog Copy ???////?/

2010-07-07 Thread Chapman, Scott 
I've used RSYNC a lot, but never on windows... but you could give it a
shot... http://www.itefix.no/i2/node/10650

 

Scott Chapman

Senior Technical Specialist

Storage and Database Administration

ICBC - Victoria

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batra
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 8:51 AM
To: Veritas
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Catalog Copy ????/

 

 

Hello Geeks,

 

Need help on one issue.

 

 

We have a catalog of aroung 250 gb.

Its on a F drive which is coming from SAN.

This drive is composed of 3 luns.

 

Now for DR purpose we want the data to copy from this drive to another
drive that will be composed of a single lun of 300 Gb.

 

Now we used a robocopy method to copy this data:-But this has  a bug
that it does not retain the compression of files.

 

What other method you suggest to copy the data to other drive?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



Thanks and Regards
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[Veritas-bu] Catalog Copy ???////?/

2010-07-07 Thread pranav batra 


Hello Geeks,
Need help on one issue.

We have a catalog of aroung 250 gb.Its on a F drive which is coming from 
SAN.This drive is composed of 3 luns.
Now for DR purpose we want the data to copy from this drive to another drive 
that will be composed of a single lun of 300 Gb.
Now we used a robocopy method to copy this data:-But this has  a bug that it 
does not retain the compression of files.
What other method you suggest to copy the data to other drive?











Thanks and Regards

Pranav Batra



  
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Restore issue between Linux gui and Windows gui.

2010-07-07 Thread judy_hinchcliffe 
Just a note  ( I have AIX)

And I have seen AIX say bad date on just command line when it did not like the 
syntax ( happens to me when I try ‘at’ command)
And unix just does not like those odd file names.
I don’t use the java gui, but use the windows remote admin console on my pc.  
So I have not seen the issue with a  restore.
Just wanted to note I have see the same behavior at unix command line when it 
interrupts a command with characters that are not allowed by unix

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Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 9:40 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Restore issue between Linux gui and Windows gui.


All:

Our environment, HP-UX 11-31 currently running one master and media server 
running NetBackup 6.5.2.  Running mostly unix / Linux backups and a couple 
windows b/u’s thrown in for good measure.

I primarily run the NetBackup gui on my Linux (RedHat ) workstation but also 
run it on my Windows XP laptop.  I had to do a restore this morning of a file 
that had a ton of special characters in its name.  The restore from my Linux 
workstation canceled with the message “invalid date specified:” followed by 
part of the name of the file.  The part of the name of the file that displayed 
in the error started in the middle of the name string with some of the special 
characters around it.  The Activity Monitor showed the restore canceled with a 
“client process aborted (50)” error. I tried several restores from the same 
directory with files with special characters in them with the same results.  I 
also ran successful restores for files with normal non special character names 
from the same directory from my workstation.  I then opened up a NBU gui 
session on my windows laptop and successfully ran the restore of the files with 
special characters in their names.  I suspect that the special characters in 
the file name caused some character translation problem in Linux that made it 
corrupt the date field, and that Windows could handle the translation.  I’m not 
going to pursue this as I do have a workaround but was curious if anyone out 
there has ever had this same type of problem.

Thanks in advance…

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Unix System Administrator

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Internet: wbed...@lear.com

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX

2010-07-07 Thread judy_hinchcliffe 
I have not had your issue.
I do not bounce NB all the time.  And can run months with it up before I do 
something that requires me to bounce it.
I also do not bounce my AIX much at all.
You say vmquery is still running when you see this issue.
You have anything else that happens once a month? In NB or out of it.
Thoughts of: does image cleanup happened the same time
Do you have any special jobs that run once a month in NB?
How about cron - do you have a mksysb run once a month?  ( I run a mksysb twice 
a month on weekends but have not issue)
My current AIX is 5.3.8 (was upgraded from 5.3.6 last month)
I am still running NB 6.5.5



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Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 6:28 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Cc: Judy Hinchcliffe
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX

Judy,

I am curious as to what our differences may be, in regard why I am experiencing 
this issue and you are not.  It happened again over the weekend, and I was able 
to determine that it happens every 28 days, provided that I leave NBU up that 
long (which I normally do).  I was wondering if you stop and start NBU at 
shorter intervals.

Naturally, I uploaded my obligatory 182MB of logs to support, and turned off 
logging (yeah!).  I will keep everybody posted as to the results of the case.

I did notice, on a side note, that a vmquery is still running when this 
happens.  Murphy's law dictates that it happens very early on Sunday mornings, 
when my thinking isn't quite as sharp.  If I have to stretch this out for one 
more iteration, I am going to write a checklist of things to look at before I 
perform my restart.

Scott

From:



To:



Date:

06/07/2010 12:33 PM

Subject:

RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX






I agree the 6.5.3.1 was a solid release.

Strange issue, and just because it ran through my head - have you verified that 
the previous run finishes completely before the next one starts?

I have not heard of any issue like that - good luck with the upgrade.
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All that I have right now is a symptom.  We have a hourly script that utilizes 
vmquery to count the amount of scratch tapes, and sent the results to a 
mailbox.  If I leave the master server up for more than 2 weeks (I haven't 
determined the exact amount of time), my hourly e-mail shows 0 scratch tapes, 
and all of the running backups fail for lack of tapes.  If I stop and restart 
NBU, everything is fine until the next iteration of the unknown period of time. 
 I didn't have this in 6.5.3.1, which was rock-solid IMHO, by the way.

From:



To:



Date:

06/07/2010 11:55 AM

Subject:

RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX









What is your issue?  As I am planning the upgrade and I am currently on 6.5.5 - 
I would really like to know what problem you have, that you think 7.0 will fix. 
 Please share with me.

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Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 9:59 AM
To: Veritas
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX

It may, but I want to go to 7.0.  I am dealing with a ~2 week recurring problem 
on 6.5.5, and nobody can tell me if it is addressed in 6.5.6.  I have come to 
realize that AIX seems to lag behind in support, and wanted to know if there 
was anybody else running 7.0 on it.
From:

"Baumann, Kevin" 

To:



Date:

06/07/2010 10:48 AM

Subject:

RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX











Does 6.5.6 offer 2008 support?  I think it does but I might be mistaken.

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Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 10:47 AM
To: Veritas
Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX

I was just wondering if there is anybody running 7.0 in production on an AIX 
master server.  We need it mostly for the 2008 support.  We are currently 
running 6.5.5.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Performance tuning Windows 2008 client

2010-07-07 Thread Ed Wilts 
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 9:28 AM,  wrote:

>
> We're observing some significant performance issues with some of our
> Windows 2008 SP2 clients.

Backing up to a DD880 VTL, one client in particular is running at just over
> 300KB/sec.  Others are running 2-3MB/sec.

The clients in question are all virtual machines running on VMWare ESX 3.5.0
> 238493.  Our Windows 2008 clients running on bare metal are performing well.
>

Our NetBackup environment is version 6.5.3 on the master/media server and
> the client.
>
> We've tried tuning the net buffer size, but that made no difference.  Are
> there other things we can try?
>

Do these contain lots and lots of little files?  If so, have you considered
FlashBackup?
Do you have enough memory on these guests.  We've seen some issues where one
of our VMware admins decided to give all of the new guests VERY little
memory,
forgetting that after he provisioned the guest he was supposed to increase
it to a reasonable size.

If you do network exerciser from the guest to the media server, what sort of
performance do you get?  For example, have you tried something like an FTP
or a simple
file copy directly from the guest to the media server?

   .../Ed

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[Veritas-bu] Restore issue between Linux gui and Windows gui.

2010-07-07 Thread BeDour, Wayne 
All:
Our environment, HP-UX 11-31 currently running one master and media
server running NetBackup 6.5.2.  Running mostly unix / Linux backups and
a couple windows b/u's thrown in for good measure.
I primarily run the NetBackup gui on my Linux (RedHat ) workstation but
also run it on my Windows XP laptop.  I had to do a restore this morning
of a file that had a ton of special characters in its name.  The restore
from my Linux workstation canceled with the message "invalid date
specified:" followed by part of the name of the file.  The part of the
name of the file that displayed in the error started in the middle of
the name string with some of the special characters around it.  The
Activity Monitor showed the restore canceled with a "client process
aborted (50)" error. I tried several restores from the same directory
with files with special characters in them with the same results.  I
also ran successful restores for files with normal non special character
names from the same directory from my workstation.  I then opened up a
NBU gui session on my windows laptop and successfully ran the restore of
the files with special characters in their names.  I suspect that the
special characters in the file name caused some character translation
problem in Linux that made it corrupt the date field, and that Windows
could handle the translation.  I'm not going to pursue this as I do have
a workaround but was curious if anyone out there has ever had this same
type of problem.
Thanks in advance...

Wayne BeDour
Unix System Administrator
PH: 248-447-1739
Internet: wbed...@lear.com



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[Veritas-bu] Performance tuning Windows 2008 client

2010-07-07 Thread Jack . Forester 
Greetings all,

We're observing some significant performance issues with some of our 
Windows 2008 SP2 clients.  Backing up to a DD880 VTL, one client in 
particular is running at just over 300KB/sec.  Others are running 
2-3MB/sec.  The clients in question are all virtual machines running on 
VMWare ESX 3.5.0 238493.  Our Windows 2008 clients running on bare metal 
are performing well.  Our NetBackup environment is version 6.5.3 on the 
master/media server and the client.

We've tried tuning the net buffer size, but that made no difference.  Are 
there other things we can try?

We have a case open with Symantec, but I thought I'd check here to see if 
anyone else has run into this issue.
-- 
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Sr. Data Protection Administrator 
Global Technology Services - AHS
Mylan, Inc.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] PureDisk Dedup

2010-07-07 Thread Renee Carlisle 
Installation and setup have been great.  It works very well so far in the 
environments that we have installed it in.

Some gotchas:

Listen carefully when they say be careful in planning.  Once it is configured 
it can't be reconfigured.  Make sure the disk, credentials, IP, etc that you 
want to use are solid because you can't change them after the fact without 
blowing everything away and starting over.

We are having problems right now getting the duplication from one storage 
server to another working...working the case with support now

If you do have to start over and blow the configuration away, there is a pd 
config file under the ost-plugins directory that you have to remove that is not 
listed in the steps to remove a storage server.  

Good luck, definitely use it.

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To all,

We are on the verge of implementing puredisk dedup into our NBU environment.

I have read up on this feature, but I would prefer to get real life comments on 
this solution, so with that being said: 

What has been your experience with PureDisk dedupe? Does it work? What are some 
gotchas?, etc.

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[Veritas-bu] PureDisk Dedup

2010-07-07 Thread ccosta . ccc 
To all,

We are on the verge of implementing puredisk dedup into our NBU environment.

I have read up on this feature, but I would prefer to get real life comments on 
this solution, so with that being said: 

What has been your experience with PureDisk dedupe? Does it work? What are some 
gotchas?, etc.

Thank you in advance


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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX

2010-07-07 Thread scott . george 
Judy,

I am curious as to what our differences may be, in regard why I am 
experiencing this issue and you are not.  It happened again over the 
weekend, and I was able to determine that it happens every 28 days, 
provided that I leave NBU up that long (which I normally do).  I was 
wondering if you stop and start NBU at shorter intervals. 

Naturally, I uploaded my obligatory 182MB of logs to support, and turned 
off logging (yeah!).  I will keep everybody posted as to the results of 
the case. 

I did notice, on a side note, that a vmquery is still running when this 
happens.  Murphy's law dictates that it happens very early on Sunday 
mornings, when my thinking isn't quite as sharp.  If I have to stretch 
this out for one more iteration, I am going to write a checklist of things 
to look at before I perform my restart. 

Scott



From:

To:

Date:
06/07/2010 12:33 PM
Subject:
RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX



I agree the 6.5.3.1 was a solid release.
 
Strange issue, and just because it ran through my head ? have you verified 
that the previous run finishes completely before the next one starts?
 
I have not heard of any issue like that ? good luck with the upgrade.
From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [
mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of 
scott.geo...@parker.com
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 11:28 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX
 
All that I have right now is a symptom.  We have a hourly script that 
utilizes vmquery to count the amount of scratch tapes, and sent the 
results to a mailbox.  If I leave the master server up for more than 2 
weeks (I haven't determined the exact amount of time), my hourly e-mail 
shows 0 scratch tapes, and all of the running backups fail for lack of 
tapes.  If I stop and restart NBU, everything is fine until the next 
iteration of the unknown period of time.  I didn't have this in 6.5.3.1, 
which was rock-solid IMHO, by the way.   




From: 
 
To: 
 
Date: 
06/07/2010 11:55 AM 
Subject: 
RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX
 




What is your issue?  As I am planning the upgrade and I am currently on 
6.5.5 ? I would really like to know what problem you have, that you think 
7.0 will fix.  Please share with me. 
  
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mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 9:59 AM
To: Veritas
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX 
  
It may, but I want to go to 7.0.  I am dealing with a ~2 week recurring 
problem on 6.5.5, and nobody can tell me if it is addressed in 6.5.6.  I 
have come to realize that AIX seems to lag behind in support, and wanted 
to know if there was anybody else running 7.0 on it.   


From: 
"Baumann, Kevin"  
To: 
 
Date: 
06/07/2010 10:48 AM 
Subject: 
RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX

 
 





Does 6.5.6 offer 2008 support?  I think it does but I might be mistaken. 
 
From: scott.geo...@parker.com [mailto:scott.geo...@parker.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 10:47 AM
To: Veritas
Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0 on AIX 
 
I was just wondering if there is anybody running 7.0 in production on an 
AIX master server.  We need it mostly for the 2008 support.  We are 
currently running 6.5.5. 

Thank you, 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Error Code 89

2010-07-07 Thread Peter Mosopa 
Hi,

Please check on page 32 of the blueprint on the link below on how to
compare the /etc/system to the /etc/projects resource controls.

http://www.sun.com/blueprints/1006/820-0001.pdf

Regards

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Error Code 89


Dear Forum,

I m facing frequent problem of error 89. Some of the streams of BC based
backups and nw backup fails. But after re-firing it, it goes through.

This is on Solaris 10 media server with 6.5.5.

Any solution/suggestions are welcome in this regard.


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Error Code 89

2010-07-07 Thread Peter Mosopa 
Hi,

Please try the link below, it helps, please note that on Solaris 10 you
tune up from the /etc/project file instead of /etc/system.

http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/307610.htm


Regards

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Dear Forum,

I m facing frequent problem of error 89. Some of the streams of BC based
backups and nw backup fails. But after re-firing it, it goes through.

This is on Solaris 10 media server with 6.5.5.

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[Veritas-bu] Error Code 89

2010-07-07 Thread NBU 

Dear Forum,

I m facing frequent problem of error 89. Some of the streams of BC based 
backups and nw backup fails. But after re-firing it, it goes through.

This is on Solaris 10 media server with 6.5.5.

Any solution/suggestions are welcome in this regard.


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