[Veritas-bu] Upgrade to NBU 6.5.6 and SSO

[PaulG]

Hi,

I just finished upgrading/rearchitecting our backup solution to the following:
1 Master\media server on Solaris 10
4 media servers on RHat 2.6
1 IBM 3584 with 25 drives.
The setup has the drives shared between all the servers and the master owning 
robot control.
we had 5 Netbackup enterprise server licenses prior to this upgrade and we 
purchased 25 SSO licenses as part of it.
I have all the servers up and the library configured and am able to see all the 
drives from all the servers.
I can run backups successfully from the master\media server, but when I try 
running a job against a specific media server I get either error 159 Licensed 
capacity exceeded or error 11 system call failed...

any ideas as to what I am doing wrong?

Do I need to have unique license keys on each media server?
Do I need to have all the license keys registered on all the servers or just 
the master??

Thanks
Paul

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Restores timing out after retiring a media server

[Steve Lavin]

one method to fix this without updating the database is to add a  bp.conf entry:
FAILOVER_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVERS =  
 
You could also use the FORCE_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVER directive.

HTH, Steve
st...@greenoaksystems.com
http://www.greenoaksystems.com

> From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of BeDour,
> Wayne
> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 3:01 PM
> To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: [Veritas-bu] Restores timing out after retiring a media server
> All:
> Our environment, HP-UX 11-31 currently running one master / media server
> on NetBackup 6.5.2.  We are running mostly unix / Linux backups and a
> couple windows b/u's thrown in for good measure.
> 
> We were running with a master and a media server and have retired the
> media server.  I have changed all the policies to use the master as the
> media server and am having no problems with backups.  The problem is
> when I try to restore something that was backed up when we had the
> separate media server.  For the Source Client in the restore gui, if I
> don't point to the old media server, I don't see the files that I need
> to restore.  If I point to the old media server, I see everything I need
> but because the machine is down, the restore times out.  
> 
> Did I miss something in the process of retiring the media server that is
> causing this?  Anyone have any ideas / suggestions?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Wayne BeDour
> 
> 



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Re: [Veritas-bu] 7.0.1 upgrade log file

[Scott Jacobson]

If it is R2, at least for the client, I've been told you'll need special 
binaries. Can't say if that also applies to a master/media server or not.
-sj

>>>  10/13/2010 3:40 PM >>>

Sorry should have stated
Windows 2008 x64
Trying a install by hand using the setup.exe
 

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of 
judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com 
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 4:37 PM
To: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 
Subject: [Veritas-bu] 7.0.1 upgrade log file

 
Anybody know how to look at a log file for a failed 7.0.1 upgrade.
It seems to go fine, says it is going to start the services, then rolls back.
Can*t seem to find a log file or a reason for it.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] 7.0.1 upgrade log file

[judy_hinchcliffe]

I found the log and the issue.

01-14-2010,14:05:57 :  Property(S): ISSCRIPT_VERSION_MISSING = The 
InstallScript engine is missing from this machine.  If available, please run 
ISScript.msi, or contact your support personnel for further assistance.
01-14-2010,14:05:57 :  Property(S): ISSCRIPT_VERSION_OLD = The InstallScript 
engine on this machine is older than the version required to run this setup.  
If available, please install the latest version of ISScript.msi, or contact 
your support personnel for further assistance.


http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=TECH50669

Now I just need a windows admin to fix it for me.

Thanks everybody for your help in finding the log.


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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Robin Small
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 5:39 PM
To: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] 7.0.1 upgrade log file

A couple of things I've found w/ 2008

It goes better if you copy it local and right-click the executable to run as 
admin.
Have you checked the windows event log for any msi errors?? Usually a 1603 or 
1612.

I thought there were some MSIEXEC switches you could use to force a MSI log 
file. I don't remember them off the top of my head, but that might be an option 
too.

~ Robin

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To: judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com; Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] 7.0.1 upgrade log file

Sorry should have stated
Windows 2008 x64
Trying a install by hand using the setup.exe

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] 7.0.1 upgrade log file

Anybody know how to look at a log file for a failed 7.0.1 upgrade.
It seems to go fine, says it is going to start the services, then rolls back.
Can't seem to find a log file or a reason for it.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] 7.0.1 upgrade log file

[Robin Small]

A couple of things I've found w/ 2008

It goes better if you copy it local and right-click the executable to run as 
admin.
Have you checked the windows event log for any msi errors?? Usually a 1603 or 
1612.

I thought there were some MSIEXEC switches you could use to force a MSI log 
file. I don't remember them off the top of my head, but that might be an option 
too.

~ Robin

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judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com
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To: judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com; Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] 7.0.1 upgrade log file

Sorry should have stated
Windows 2008 x64
Trying a install by hand using the setup.exe

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To: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] 7.0.1 upgrade log file

Anybody know how to look at a log file for a failed 7.0.1 upgrade.
It seems to go fine, says it is going to start the services, then rolls back.
Can't seem to find a log file or a reason for it.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] 7.0.1 upgrade log file

[judy_hinchcliffe]

Sorry should have stated
Windows 2008 x64
Trying a install by hand using the setup.exe

From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of 
judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 4:37 PM
To: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] 7.0.1 upgrade log file

Anybody know how to look at a log file for a failed 7.0.1 upgrade.
It seems to go fine, says it is going to start the services, then rolls back.
Can't seem to find a log file or a reason for it.
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[Veritas-bu] 7.0.1 upgrade log file

[judy_hinchcliffe]

Anybody know how to look at a log file for a failed 7.0.1 upgrade.
It seems to go fine, says it is going to start the services, then rolls back.
Can't seem to find a log file or a reason for it.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500 ?[SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Boris Kraizman]

The data that would go to the tapes won't be de-dup, then no reduction in
there at all, but a disk pool would work perfectly.

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Justin Piszcz wrote:

> Hi Rockey,
>
> Simon was asking about this-- de-dupe is nice; however, it does require
> disk and I am not sure Simon has large disk storage pools..
>
> Justin.
>
> On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Rockey Reed wrote:
>
> > Justin
> >
> > If your data is fairly static you may find the built in deduplication of
> NBU to be a benefit. Contact your Symantec system engineer for more
> information. The time spent on this could save you money and administrative
> burdens.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Rockey
> > Please excuse short reply and spelling or grammar errors.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu <
> veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu>
> > To: Justin Piszcz 
> > Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu  >
> > Sent: Tue Oct 05 06:15:22 2010
> > Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500
> ?[SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
> >
> > Justin
> > I have one, and it seems to be at capacity.
> > This week is the first time tapes have HAD to be ejected to make way for
> > new tapes to be loaded!
> >
> > Not a good situation to be in. Its 6 drives, with 143 slots!
> >
> > I have tried to check we are MPX enough and putting as much Data to a
> > single tape as possible, but we are limited in costs.
> > If you read the Tech Specs at Management level, they talk about 143 x
> > LTO4 = 114 TB's uncompressed I would guess.
> >
> > Well I ran a NBU report for client Backup over a period of one week and
> > it shows over 44,348GB's for just that week.
> >
> > Simon
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:jpis...@lucidpixels.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 12:45 PM
> > To: WEAVER, Simon (external)
> > Cc: Wilkinson, Alex; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> > Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500 ?
> > [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
> >
> > Erm,
> >
> > More problems on SL500s than the L700 robots.
> > I'd be curious to hear the experiences from others.
> >
> > Justin.
> >
> > On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Justin Piszcz wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> They are alright for small, rack-mounted robots, non-redundant though,
> >
> >> so if you plan on using them, make sure you get two if your backups
> >> are mission-critical.  Seems to have more problems with older L700
> > robots.
> >> Have experience with expansion modules as well, no issues there.
> >>
> >> The SL500 must be mounted perfectly level, if its off by as much as
> >> 1mm there will/can be mount errors or it can cause the hand to lockup
> > or get stuck.
> >>
> >> Justin.
> >>
> >> On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, WEAVER, Simon (external) wrote:
> >>
> >>> Ok so what do you think of it ?
> >>> I am looking to expand ours with either Drive Modules or Cartridge
> >>> Modules.
> >>>
> >>> Simon
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> >>> [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of
> >>> Justin Piszcz
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 12:27 PM
> >>> To: Wilkinson, Alex
> >>> Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> >>> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500 ?
> >>> [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Post your questions :)
> >>>
> >>> Justin.
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Wilkinson, Alex wrote:
> >>>
> 
> 0n Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 09:15:30AM +0100, WEAVER, Simon
>  (external)
> >>> wrote:
> 
>   >As per question. Got some questions on expansion to ask!
> 
>  Yup. Shoot!
> 
>   -Alex
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Exchange 2010 DAG backups w/ Netbackup 7.0.1

[Bahadir Kiziltan]

DAG name is set under client tab.
Basically, you need to install NBU client on every node in DAG (including
CAS if exist).

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Jonathan Dyck
wrote:

> Maybe I jumped the gun emailing the list.  #1 was my problem.  Anyone
> getting into this,  make sure you install the client on all servers in
> the DAG and add them in the correct order in your "Preferred Server
> List".
>
> Cheers.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jonathan Dyck
> Sent: October 13, 2010 9:00 AM
> To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: Exchange 2010 DAG backups w/ Netbackup 7.0.1
>
> Hello list,
> I'm hoping someone out there has gone through the pain of trying to
> setup Exchange 2010 DAG backups from the passive node.  Reading through
> the documentation,  I'm a little unclear on a couple things.  Here's the
> rough outline of what I've done so far:
>
> 
> 1) Installed the standard NBU 7.0.1 windows client on the passive server
> of the DAG (none of the databases are active on this server).  The
> client name in the NBU config is the physical name of the server,  not
> the DAG AD object name.
>
> I did not install the client on either of the two active servers in the
> DAG (3 servers total,  two split the active databases, the third is
> completely passive).  Maybe this is a problem and I should install the
> client on the active servers too for my test?
>
> 2) Verified that my media/master server is 7.0.1 and has the correct
> license for Exchange,  and that it can backup regular filesystem files
> off of the physical client name of that passive node (networking's all
> good).
>
> 3) Setup an Exchange policy on the NBU, it has the following properties:
> - "Perform snapshot backups" is enabled
> - "Enable granular recovery" is disabled
> - "Database backup source:" is set to Passive copy only
> - My preferred server list has one entry, which is the physical name of
> the passive node,  not the DAG name.  Maybe this is a problem?
> - I've specified the client name in the policy selection to the DAG name
> 
>
> Can anyone out there take a second to point out any errors in the above
> setup?  I'm running into the Status code 26 issue (handshaking failed),
> which is supposed to be resolved with 7.0.1, but there's a hotfix I seem
> to be able to download.  I'll be going down that road too.  Hopefully
> that's all I'm missing.
>
> Cheers,
> Jon
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup DeDupe I/O Requirements

[Bahadir Kiziltan]

Any mid-range array with SATA disks configured as RAID6 (150-200MB/sec)
should be enough as regardless of where the deduplication is done (client or
media server), deduped data is sent/written to the disk array. Be aware that
connection between disk array and media server has to be FC based. iSCSI is
currently not supported for dedupe disk.

There is no way to directly convert the traditional disk based STU to
deduped one. You need to first create a dedupe pool then you'll be able to
have a separate STU for deduplication.

Have a look at the following TN:
http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=TECH77575



On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Martin, Jonathan wrote:

> Does anyone running NetBackup DeDupe (Media server, not dedicated puredisk)
> have any storage recommendations? We use 500GB SATA disks here as the basis
> for our DSSU / D2D2T infrastructure and I need to know if we can "convert"
> them to DeDupe storage as is, or if we need to invest in something that is
> more friendly to random I/O.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Jonathan
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Re: [Veritas-bu] How dedup replication controlled by nbu

[Rusty.Major]

The API that makes it happen is OST and the 'scheduler', if you will, is a 
Storage Lifecycle Policy.

The high level configuration is to setup two storage servers, two disk 
pools, and two storage units (one for each dedup device). You then 
configure a Storage Lifecycle Policy to do the initial backup to the local 
dedupe device (the local storage unit with the local disk pool) and a 
duplication step that points to the remote dedupe device (which is the 
remote storage unit pointing to the remote disk pool). The replication 
shows up as a duplication job in NBU and the job details will show it is 
using Optimized Duplication, so it only replicates the unique data.

Unfortunately, there currently is no easy way to see how much unique data 
is sent, NBU only knows about the full image size.

If, instead of the above method, you were to use the dedupe device's 
included replication, NetBackup will not be aware of the data on the 
remote device.

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Hi
Though i get some help here.
Heard netbackup controls dedup replication from one dedup to another
dedup. How this work ?
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Vault, waiting for resource

[Nate Sanders]

 It appears the child duplicate job restarted. So I think I am good. Any
one have any input on what to do to avoid these day long freezes that
occur when a Tape because stuck waiting for resource?

On 10/13/2010 10:28 AM, Nate Sanders wrote:
>  Oct 12, 2010 5:38:58 PM - awaiting resource 400152. Waiting for resources.
>
> My Vault Duplicate child job has now had this same error with a
> different Media ID two weeks in a row. Last week this was not noticed
> until after Vault Eject failed . This week I was watching it and just
> saw this come up this morning. I checked available_media and the media
> ID is listed in use with other data. So how do I get the vault to let go
> of this tape and continue on? I can't afford to restart the whole job.
> Can I kill the child duplicate job and for the parent to continue?
>

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Basic Onbar questions

[Renee Carlisle]

Forget question 3, found this technote:

http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=TECH29536


Reneé Carlisle


Was hoping there may be some NBU/Informix gurus out there that can help me with 
some onbar questions.  My familiarity is more with RMAN:

NBU Version: 7.0
Informix Version: 9.4
OS: AIX 5.3


1.   Does the Informix onsmsync process need to be run with each NB Backup?

2.   What is the correct syntax for Informix onsmsync process with NBU?

3.   Should an onmode -l  backup the logs automatically or do you have to 
use an onbar -b -l command?

4.   Are there any special permissions required for onbar -b -l?  Getting:

902:/home/informix> onbar -b -l
Permission denied
/home/informix/940UC7/bin/onbar[91]: /dev/null: cannot create
Permission denied
/home/informix/940UC7/bin/onbar[120]: /dev/null: cannot create


5.   The logs get backed up when doing it manually, but when we try to use 
the alarm program within Informix, it does not appear to work.  Is there 
something special that needs to be done when rolling logs with the alarm 
program ?

Thanks for your help

Reneé Carlisle
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[Veritas-bu] Vault, waiting for resource

[Nate Sanders]

 Oct 12, 2010 5:38:58 PM - awaiting resource 400152. Waiting for resources.

My Vault Duplicate child job has now had this same error with a
different Media ID two weeks in a row. Last week this was not noticed
until after Vault Eject failed . This week I was watching it and just
saw this come up this morning. I checked available_media and the media
ID is listed in use with other data. So how do I get the vault to let go
of this tape and continue on? I can't afford to restart the whole job.
Can I kill the child duplicate job and for the parent to continue?

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Restores timing out after retiring a media server

[WEAVER, Simon (external)]

Been there, done that. !
Even came back after a Holiday in 2006 to a complete disaster where our
Media Servers were completely destroyed, and it causes mayhem! Worse
still, I had to recover without any Catalog backups!



From: BeDour, Wayne [mailto:wbed...@lear.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 4:11 PM
To: WEAVER, Simon (external); veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Restores timing out after retiring a media
server



Looks like I missed a few key steps.  Luckily, I can bring the old Media
Server back up and take care of this.  

Thanks for all the help...

 

Wayne BeDour 
Unix System Administrator 
PH: 248-447-1739 
Internet: wbed...@lear.com 



From: WEAVER, Simon (external) [mailto:simon.wea...@astrium.eads.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 10:58 AM
To: BeDour, Wayne; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Restores timing out after retiring a media
server

 

Wayne 

What process or procedure did you use?

It sounds like you may have to use bpmedia command and specify the media
ID from the  to your Master Server.

 

Take a look at this:
http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=TECH52021
  

 

An extract from the document under Step 3:

If both  and  are at NetBackup 6.0MP7 or later,
or NetBackup 6.5.2 or later, run the following command:

bpmedia -movedb -allvolumes -oldserver  -newserver


Simon

 



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Wayne
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To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Restores timing out after retiring a media server

All:

Our environment, HP-UX 11-31 currently running one master / media server
on NetBackup 6.5.2.  We are running mostly unix / Linux backups and a
couple windows b/u's thrown in for good measure.

We were running with a master and a media server and have retired the
media server.  I have changed all the policies to use the master as the
media server and am having no problems with backups.  The problem is
when I try to restore something that was backed up when we had the
separate media server.  For the Source Client in the restore gui, if I
don't point to the old media server, I don't see the files that I need
to restore.  If I point to the old media server, I see everything I need
but because the machine is down, the restore times out.  

Did I miss something in the process of retiring the media server that is
causing this?  Anyone have any ideas / suggestions?

Thanks in advance

Wayne BeDour

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Internet: wbed...@lear.com

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Restores timing out after retiring a media server

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Looks like I missed a few key steps.  Luckily, I can bring the old Media
Server back up and take care of this.  

Thanks for all the help...

 

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Internet: wbed...@lear.com 



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Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 10:58 AM
To: BeDour, Wayne; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Restores timing out after retiring a media
server

 

Wayne 

What process or procedure did you use?

It sounds like you may have to use bpmedia command and specify the media
ID from the  to your Master Server.

 

Take a look at this:
http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=TECH52021
  

 

An extract from the document under Step 3:

If both  and  are at NetBackup 6.0MP7 or later,
or NetBackup 6.5.2 or later, run the following command:

bpmedia -movedb -allvolumes -oldserver  -newserver


Simon

 



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Wayne
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To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Restores timing out after retiring a media server

All:

Our environment, HP-UX 11-31 currently running one master / media server
on NetBackup 6.5.2.  We are running mostly unix / Linux backups and a
couple windows b/u's thrown in for good measure.

We were running with a master and a media server and have retired the
media server.  I have changed all the policies to use the master as the
media server and am having no problems with backups.  The problem is
when I try to restore something that was backed up when we had the
separate media server.  For the Source Client in the restore gui, if I
don't point to the old media server, I don't see the files that I need
to restore.  If I point to the old media server, I see everything I need
but because the machine is down, the restore times out.  

Did I miss something in the process of retiring the media server that is
causing this?  Anyone have any ideas / suggestions?

Thanks in advance

Wayne BeDour

Unix System Administrator

PH: 248-447-1739

Internet: wbed...@lear.com

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[Veritas-bu] How dedup replication controlled by nbu

[bolobaboo kabootar]

Hi
Though i get some help here.
Heard netbackup controls dedup replication from one dedup to another
dedup. How this work ?
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup DeDupe I/O Requirements

[Rusty.Major]

I don't have any personal experience on this, but have been told that SATA 
will work fine for dedupe. Data Domain and the new NetBackup appliances, 
and I'm sure all of the other dedupe hardware vendors, use SATA drives.

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Does anyone running NetBackup DeDupe (Media server, not dedicated 
puredisk) have any storage recommendations? We use 500GB SATA disks here 
as the basis for our DSSU / D2D2T infrastructure and I need to know if we 
can "convert" them to DeDupe storage as is, or if we need to invest in 
something that is more friendly to random I/O.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Restores timing out after retiring a media server

[WEAVER, Simon (external)]

Wayne 
What process or procedure did you use?
It sounds like you may have to use bpmedia command and specify the media
ID from the  to your Master Server.
 
Take a look at this:
http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=TECH52021
  
 
An extract from the document under Step 3:
If both  and  are at NetBackup 6.0MP7 or later,
or NetBackup 6.5.2 or later, run the following command:

bpmedia -movedb -allvolumes -oldserver  -newserver

Simon



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Wayne
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To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Restores timing out after retiring a media server



All:

Our environment, HP-UX 11-31 currently running one master / media server
on NetBackup 6.5.2.  We are running mostly unix / Linux backups and a
couple windows b/u's thrown in for good measure.

We were running with a master and a media server and have retired the
media server.  I have changed all the policies to use the master as the
media server and am having no problems with backups.  The problem is
when I try to restore something that was backed up when we had the
separate media server.  For the Source Client in the restore gui, if I
don't point to the old media server, I don't see the files that I need
to restore.  If I point to the old media server, I see everything I need
but because the machine is down, the restore times out.  

Did I miss something in the process of retiring the media server that is
causing this?  Anyone have any ideas / suggestions?

Thanks in advance

Wayne BeDour

Unix System Administrator

PH: 248-447-1739

Internet: wbed...@lear.com  

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[Veritas-bu] Basic Onbar questions

[Renee Carlisle]

Was hoping there may be some NBU/Informix gurus out there that can help me with 
some onbar questions.  My familiarity is more with RMAN:

NBU Version: 7.0
Informix Version: 9.4
OS: AIX 5.3


1.   Does the Informix onsmsync process need to be run with each NB Backup?

2.   What is the correct syntax for Informix onsmsync process with NBU?

3.   Should an onmode -l  backup the logs automatically or do you have to 
use an onbar -b -l command?

4.   Are there any special permissions required for onbar -b -l?  Getting:

902:/home/informix> onbar -b -l
Permission denied
/home/informix/940UC7/bin/onbar[91]: /dev/null: cannot create
Permission denied
/home/informix/940UC7/bin/onbar[120]: /dev/null: cannot create


5.   The logs get backed up when doing it manually, but when we try to use 
the alarm program within Informix, it does not appear to work.  Is there 
something special that needs to be done when rolling logs with the alarm 
program ?

Thanks for your help

Reneé Carlisle
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Restores timing out after retiring a media server

[Lightner, Jeff]

This is a doc I found on their site last year - it has the steps of
decommissioning a media server in the solution:

 

Found on Veritas site 08/07/2009

 

Document ID: 317931

http://support.veritas.com/docs/317931 E-Mail Colleague IconE-Mail this

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Unable to use "nbemmcmd" command to decommission a media server that
failed

with error message: "cannot delete assigned volume (92)".

Details:

ENVIRONMENT:

NetBackup (NBU) 6.5

Master server:HP-UX 11v1

Media server: HP-UX 11v1

 

ISSUE:

Unable to use "nbemmcmd" command: "cannot delete assigned volume (92)".

 

ERROR CODE/ MESSAGE:

# /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/nbemmcmd -deletehost -machinename
bake01

# -machinetype media

 

NBEMMCMD, Version:6.5

The function returned the following failure status:

cannot delete assigned volume (92).

 

SOLUTION:

The steps of Deleting media server:

1.Check and delete storage unit of media server.

2.Check and delete drivers of media server:

/usr/openv/volmgr/bin/vmglob -delete -drive -drvtype hcart3 -serial

231001003335 -name HP.ULTRIUM3-SCSI.001 -devhost bake01

3.Update the media of media server:

#/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bpmedialist -mlist -l -h old_server
(to

show the media assigned to that host)

#/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bpmedia -unfreeze -m xx

#/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bpmedia -movedb -ev media_ID
-oldserver

old_server -newserver new_server

(move them to a new host)

Add FORCE_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVER = old_server new_server to Master bp.conf

4.Image:

---Image cannot be saved:

# /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bpexpdate -m xxx -d 0 -force

---Image need be saved:

(1./usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bpmedialist -L -m 

(2./usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bpimage -newserver 

-oldserver  -id 

5.Delete media server:

#/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/nbemmcmd -deletehost -machinename
bake01

-machinetype media

 

Products Applied:

 NetBackup Enterprise Server 6.5

 

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From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of
judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 10:42 AM
To: wbed...@lear.com; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Restores timing out after retiring a media
server

 

Yes, there are docs out there on how to retire a media server.

The big part you missed is that when a media server does a backup it
owns the media.  So any restores are done by that media server.

You either have to change ownership of the tapes, or set up in your
bp.conf to have another media server do any requests for the old one.

(but with the new page for looking up docs I cannot find it)

 

From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of BeDour,
Wayne
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 9:01 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Restores timing out after retiring a media server

 

All:

Our environment, HP-UX 11-31 currently running one master / media server
on NetBackup 6.5.2.  We are running mostly unix / Linux backups and a
couple windows b/u's thrown in for good measure.

We were running with a master and a media server and have retired the
media server.  I have changed all the policies to use the master as the
media server and am having no problems with backups.  The problem is
when I try to restore something that was backed up when we had the
separate media server.  For the Source Client in the restore gui, if I
don't point to the old media server, I don't see the files that I need
to restore.  If I point to the old media server, I see everything I need
but because the machine is down, the restore times out.  

Did I miss something in the process of retiring the media server that is
causing this?  Anyone have any ideas / suggestions?

Thanks in advance

Wayne BeDour

Unix System Administrator

PH: 248-447-1739

Internet: wbed...@lear.com

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[Veritas-bu] NetBackup DeDupe I/O Requirements

[Martin, Jonathan]

Does anyone running NetBackup DeDupe (Media server, not dedicated puredisk) 
have any storage recommendations? We use 500GB SATA disks here as the basis for 
our DSSU / D2D2T infrastructure and I need to know if we can "convert" them to 
DeDupe storage as is, or if we need to invest in something that is more 
friendly to random I/O.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Restores timing out after retiring a media server

[judy_hinchcliffe]

Yes, there are docs out there on how to retire a media server.
The big part you missed is that when a media server does a backup it owns the 
media.  So any restores are done by that media server.
You either have to change ownership of the tapes, or set up in your bp.conf to 
have another media server do any requests for the old one.
(but with the new page for looking up docs I cannot find it)

From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of BeDour, Wayne
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 9:01 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Restores timing out after retiring a media server


All:

Our environment, HP-UX 11-31 currently running one master / media server on 
NetBackup 6.5.2.  We are running mostly unix / Linux backups and a couple 
windows b/u’s thrown in for good measure.

We were running with a master and a media server and have retired the media 
server.  I have changed all the policies to use the master as the media server 
and am having no problems with backups.  The problem is when I try to restore 
something that was backed up when we had the separate media server.  For the 
Source Client in the restore gui, if I don’t point to the old media server, I 
don’t see the files that I need to restore.  If I point to the old media 
server, I see everything I need but because the machine is down, the restore 
times out.

Did I miss something in the process of retiring the media server that is 
causing this?  Anyone have any ideas / suggestions?

Thanks in advance….

Wayne BeDour

Unix System Administrator

PH: 248-447-1739

Internet: wbed...@lear.com

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Exchange 2010 DAG backups w/ Netbackup 7.0.1

[Jonathan Dyck]

Maybe I jumped the gun emailing the list.  #1 was my problem.  Anyone
getting into this,  make sure you install the client on all servers in
the DAG and add them in the correct order in your "Preferred Server
List".

Cheers.


-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Dyck 
Sent: October 13, 2010 9:00 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Exchange 2010 DAG backups w/ Netbackup 7.0.1

Hello list,
I'm hoping someone out there has gone through the pain of trying to
setup Exchange 2010 DAG backups from the passive node.  Reading through
the documentation,  I'm a little unclear on a couple things.  Here's the
rough outline of what I've done so far:


1) Installed the standard NBU 7.0.1 windows client on the passive server
of the DAG (none of the databases are active on this server).  The
client name in the NBU config is the physical name of the server,  not
the DAG AD object name.

I did not install the client on either of the two active servers in the
DAG (3 servers total,  two split the active databases, the third is
completely passive).  Maybe this is a problem and I should install the
client on the active servers too for my test?

2) Verified that my media/master server is 7.0.1 and has the correct
license for Exchange,  and that it can backup regular filesystem files
off of the physical client name of that passive node (networking's all
good).

3) Setup an Exchange policy on the NBU, it has the following properties:
- "Perform snapshot backups" is enabled
- "Enable granular recovery" is disabled
- "Database backup source:" is set to Passive copy only
- My preferred server list has one entry, which is the physical name of
the passive node,  not the DAG name.  Maybe this is a problem?
- I've specified the client name in the policy selection to the DAG name


Can anyone out there take a second to point out any errors in the above
setup?  I'm running into the Status code 26 issue (handshaking failed),
which is supposed to be resolved with 7.0.1, but there's a hotfix I seem
to be able to download.  I'll be going down that road too.  Hopefully
that's all I'm missing.

Cheers,
Jon





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[Veritas-bu] Restores timing out after retiring a media server

[BeDour, Wayne]

All:
Our environment, HP-UX 11-31 currently running one master / media server
on NetBackup 6.5.2.  We are running mostly unix / Linux backups and a
couple windows b/u's thrown in for good measure.
We were running with a master and a media server and have retired the
media server.  I have changed all the policies to use the master as the
media server and am having no problems with backups.  The problem is
when I try to restore something that was backed up when we had the
separate media server.  For the Source Client in the restore gui, if I
don't point to the old media server, I don't see the files that I need
to restore.  If I point to the old media server, I see everything I need
but because the machine is down, the restore times out.  
Did I miss something in the process of retiring the media server that is
causing this?  Anyone have any ideas / suggestions?
Thanks in advance

Wayne BeDour
Unix System Administrator
PH: 248-447-1739
Internet: wbed...@lear.com



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[Veritas-bu] celerra snapshot recovery auditing/logging

[X_S]

I know this is a netbackup forum but needed to ask my fellow nb users if you 
knew of any products out there that can provide file share 
monitoring/reporting.  our problem is is that we do use celerra snapshots for 
restores but have no way of auditing snapshot restore events.  for example, we 
have know way of knowing what was copied from the snaps and to where.  There 
may be about a dozen users that will perform restores.  our emc reps suggested 
we look at varonis but i'm reading that they charge by ad users and buy-in is 
pretty steep.  thanks.

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[Veritas-bu] Exchange 2010 DAG backups w/ Netbackup 7.0.1

[Jonathan Dyck]

Hello list,
I'm hoping someone out there has gone through the pain of trying to
setup Exchange 2010 DAG backups from the passive node.  Reading through
the documentation,  I'm a little unclear on a couple things.  Here's the
rough outline of what I've done so far:


1) Installed the standard NBU 7.0.1 windows client on the passive server
of the DAG (none of the databases are active on this server).  The
client name in the NBU config is the physical name of the server,  not
the DAG AD object name.

I did not install the client on either of the two active servers in the
DAG (3 servers total,  two split the active databases, the third is
completely passive).  Maybe this is a problem and I should install the
client on the active servers too for my test?

2) Verified that my media/master server is 7.0.1 and has the correct
license for Exchange,  and that it can backup regular filesystem files
off of the physical client name of that passive node (networking's all
good).

3) Setup an Exchange policy on the NBU, it has the following properties:
- "Perform snapshot backups" is enabled
- "Enable granular recovery" is disabled
- "Database backup source:" is set to Passive copy only
- My preferred server list has one entry, which is the physical name of
the passive node,  not the DAG name.  Maybe this is a problem?
- I've specified the client name in the policy selection to the DAG name


Can anyone out there take a second to point out any errors in the above
setup?  I'm running into the Status code 26 issue (handshaking failed),
which is supposed to be resolved with 7.0.1, but there's a hotfix I seem
to be able to download.  I'll be going down that road too.  Hopefully
that's all I'm missing.

Cheers,
Jon





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