Re: [Veritas-bu] NetApp VTL Direct Tape Creation and NetBackup

[Clooney, David]

Agreed, great thread

 

We currently have a SUN VTL that has NDMP functionality. i.e. the
physical drives are zoned into the vtl only. Add the drives are
configured as NDMP drives.

 

The idea was to utilise SLP's for the primary write to the vtl and
duplicate off to physical with the VTL acting as the data mover.

 

In theory all this was great but it turns out that the VTL NDMP
component is incredibly flakey and we have now had to resort back to
traditional methods.

 

Regards

 

David Clooney

 

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Conner,
Neil
Sent: 26 October 2009 22:47
To: Ed Wilts; hkyeak...@gmail.com
Cc: Veritas List
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NetApp VTL Direct Tape Creation and NetBackup

 

This is a great analysis... However, one thing a VTL is good for is
handling slow clients.  For me, backing up about a hundred clients to 12
virtual tape drives significantly shortened my backup window compared to
backing up to 4 LTO3 drives (I have quite a few slow clients to contend
with so backing up straight to the LTO3 drives was never an option
anyway).

I didn't like how NetApp implemented their direct to tape feature so I
use Vault (soon to be Storage Lifecycle Policies) to duplicate images
from the VTL to physical tape.  I set aside a 5th LTO3 drive for
restores.  I get great throughput with the Vault jobs and it's pretty
much trouble free.

Neil 


On 10/26/09 11:42 AM, "Ed Wilts"  wrote:

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Heathe Kyle Yeakley
 wrote:


Here's my current layout:
Hardware: Spectra Logic T380 with 12 IBM LTO4 tape drives.
* I'm told the theoretical bandwidth of an LTO4 tape
drive is approximately 120 MB/s. If I have 12 drives, I'm assuming I can
say that my library should theoretically be able to handle data at (12 x
120 MB/s) 1,440 MB/s. 


Not quite true.  You can theoretically deliver UNCOMPRESSED data to tape
at 1.4GB/sec.  However, if you are getting 2:1 compression, you can
deliver twice that rate - 2.88GB/sec.

If you're getting 3:1 compression, you can deliver 360MB/sec per tape
drive.  That's 1 dedicated 4Gbps fiber channel port per drive.  For 12
drives, you can possible write at 4.3GB/sec depending on your
compression ratio.
 

NetBackup: 1 Master (linux), 2 Media (linux), and 3 San Media Servers
(Tru64).


I suspect you don't have enough media servers to be able to deliver the
data rate to keep the tape drives busy.
 

* I have a "library" that can receive data much faster than my network
can deliver it.


Welcome to the club :-(
 
The first misunderstanding is that disk is faster than tape.  In
general, it isn't.   You'd be hard pressed to find a disk subsystem that
your management is willing to pay for that can actually write at
4.3GB/sec.  Management typically thinks that just because they're
backups, you can use cheap (SATA) disks without really acknowledging
that backups can have the highest I/O workloads of any application that
the company runs.

Assuming your master server does no tape I/O, you have 5 media servers
to put data to tape.  That's 2-3 tape drives per media server.  You will
need at an absolute minimum a pair of HBAs dedicated to tape work - and
pray that NetBackup actually will give you 1 tape drive per HBA, which
it doesn't even try to do - and you'll need to receive at least
240MB/sec of network traffic - i.e. 3 GigE connections for those non-SAN
media servers.  

Performance management is tough and unless you can clearly identify the
bottlenecks you have now, buying hardware is NOT the right answer.  You
may very likely be throwing money at the wrong problem.  If, for
example, you don't have enough media servers, you'll have wasted the
money on the VTLs.

Without de-dupe and assuming 2:1 compression, the VTL 1400 can injest
8.2TB per hour.  That's 2.3GB/sec and is actually *LESS* than what your
12 LTO-4 drives are capable of with 2:1 compression (2.8GB/sec).  With
de-dupe running, you'll get about half that performance out of the VTL
(4.3TB/hr)

On top of all that, the direct tape creation speed is rated at 3.0TB/hr.
That's 0.8GB/sec and now you're significantly less than what your
existing tape drives are capable of.

"why did I buy a  VTL? I haven't gained anything from what I see."

It depends on the problem you're trying to solve.

Assumptions: One of the principle reasons anyone deploys a VTL is
because:
  * Disk is faster than tape at the expense of  disk not being
removeable and having a lower Mean Time Between Failures than tape.
  * Backup windows are shrinking. A VTL allows you to create several
"virtual drives" that allow you to write more backups concurrently, thus
shrinking your backup window.


Both assumptions are actually false.  Disk is not faster than tape (see
the math above) and although your backup windows are shrinking, a VTL
may not allow you to write more backups concurrently.  

VTLs may solve problems, but backup performa

Re: [Veritas-bu] erase option to bplabel does what?

[Clooney, David]

Darren

Have written the code already in perl if you want a copy? Runs daily, figures 
out what vtl volumes have been returned to scratch in the last 24 hours and 
labels accordingly.

Regards
 
David Clooney
Midrange Design and Build (MRDB) - Storage
Internal x 66059
External +44 20 8760 6059
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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of A Darren Dunham
Sent: 09 October 2009 21:03
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] erase option to bplabel does what?

On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 02:41:58PM -0500, judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com 
wrote:
> So I believe that bplabel (no erase) just rewrites in the "label" part
> at the front of the tape.
> Where the short erase makes a gap (meaning that the first BOD for an
> image is destroyed).

Makes sense to me, and both serve my purpose.  They're virtually
equivalent today, but on older tapes I'll bet that would have made a
difference.  Since both seem to exit with status code 23 rather than 0
on normal labels, and since -erase adds output, I'm just going to let it
relabel.

I was kind of hoping that -erase would be similar to Networker's relabel
command, which will erase a volume without confirmation only if it
already has the same internal label.  You can't accidentally change the
equivalent of the RVSN that way.  But no such luck.

Thanks for the info.

-- 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Make drives read only in NBU

[Clooney, David]

Thanks Bob

Yeah that's my issue, they have to be a specific subset and need to be in the 
same virtual library.

This is the scenario, just for interest sake.

SUN Virtual library with 52 virtual drives for primary copies (eg TLD 1)
SUN VTL has FC visibility of backend physical T10k B's  - drives configured in 
NBU as NDMP drives as VTL has NDMP 4 functionality (same as filers), Robotics 
via ACSLS configured on media servereg (ACS 6) - used for duplicated copy 2.

SUN VTL has a specific section limited to 16 drives called "hosted backup 
Client" i.e. only 16/52 drives from TLD 1 can be added into this section, in 
order for the VTL to become the data mover during the dup process the read has 
to be from one of the drives in this specific section, otherwise the media 
server will do the moving.

For arguments sake say TLD 1 drives 1-38 are not in the "Hosted Backup Client" 
section and are utilised for the read part of the duplication, the media server 
will be the data mover, however if TLD drives 39-52 are utilised the VTL would 
be the data mover (with far quicker t-puts).

So there lies my issue, and unfortunately I cannot make TLD 1 have 16 drives 
only as more are required, and I cannot create another VTL as the "Hosted 
backup client" is still limited to 16 drives.

Any ideas or suggestions from anyone would be much appreciated on how to make 
TLD 1 drives 39-52 used for duplication only?

Lastly the vtl has the functionality of making vtl drives RO however NBU is not 
aware of this until it tries to write and fails so not a goer unfortunately.

Regards
 
David Clooney
Midrange Design and Build (MRDB) - Storage


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From: bob944 [mailto:bob...@attglobal.net] 
Sent: 09 October 2009 05:21
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Cc: Clooney, David
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Make drives read only in NBU

> Does anyone know if you can make a subset of drives in
> a library read only in NBU . i.e. I want a specific 10
> out of 50 drives in a robot to be read only for
> duplication purposes?

Something else I haven't had the need to do, but if you configure
them in a separate storage unit(s) and don't share the drives with a
"normal" STU, that should do what you want.  Think of it as hooking
up a little 10-drive dedicated robot.





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[Veritas-bu] Make drives read only in NBU

[Clooney, David]

Hi All

Does anyone know if you can make a subset of drives in a library read only in 
NBU . i.e. I want a specific 10 out of 50 drives in a robot to be read only for 
duplication purposes?

Regards
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] SSO and NDMP Jobs

[Clooney, David]

Quite right

Any media server/filer that wants to utilise drives needs to have FC visibility 
of them.

We use this quite a bit i.e. the same drives zoned into media servers and 
filers, then utilise SSO.

Regards
 
David Clooney


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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of A Darren Dunham
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To: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] SSO and NDMP Jobs

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 03:33:33PM -0400, Will Tucker wrote:
> In my current NetBackup 6.5.3 Windows environment, I have 4 tapes drives
> that are directly connected to my NetApp filer which uses NDMP to run
> duplicate jobs.  I also have two other tape drives that are utilized for
> other backup jobs.  There are currently 2 media servers and 1 master
> server.  If I implement SSO, will my duplicate jobs see and utilize all
> six tape drives?

SSO doesn't do anything about connectivity, just usage.

So you need to hook them up to get the media server to "see" the
drives.  How are they connected.  Are you using a switch?  If so, zoning
them to the right place should be pretty easy.

Once the drive is seen by both the media server and the NDMP host, SSO
will allow it to be used by either one when necessary.

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[Veritas-bu] NDMP Media changer co ordinates via tpconfig

[Clooney, David]

Hi All

When adding a ndmp media changer via tpconfig as apposed to the GUI
wizard, does anyone know how to determine the Netapp bus,target, lun
co-ordinates for the changer.

The NDMP manual doesn't reveal much

NBU 6.5, solaris 10

Working environment
TLD(16)robotic path = mc1 (emalonfp02n1 [SCSI b/t/l = 999/999/902]
),

Trying to configure environment
TLD(11)robotic path = mc2 (emacrxfp00n2 [SCSI b/t/l = 0/0/0] ),

 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] ACSLS & Vault

[Clooney, David]

Nathan

 

1.)You want the cap mode automatic as as I understand it once all
your volumes are in the cap or the cap is full it places in  cap in an
eject state, otherwise the cap has to manually be placed in an eject
state.

2.)Once the eject is initiated in the Vault, the job will wait for
all designated volumes to be pulled from the cap, if you have a cap of
capacity 20, and you have 30 tapes to vault eject, you will need to
remove the first 20 batch, close the cap and then  eject the remaining
10. Only once this is done will the vault job continue and complete.

3.)What library are you using and does NBU know you library has an
access port. One way to check would be to select any volume and eject it
and see whether it places it in the cap.

4.)There is quite a lot to ACSLS, depends how you plan on using it
i.e. are you going to share the library between mainframe and NBU for
instance, this would require setting up pools, volume attribute etc etc.

Regards

 

 

David Clooney

From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Nathan
Kippen
Sent: 20 July 2009 22:04
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] ACSLS & Vault

 

A couple of question for you ACSLS users:

 

1- Do I want the cap door mode automatic or manual?  (What is the
difference)

 

2- I use the Vault option with Netbackup Enterprise.  How does the eject
process work with ACSLS?

 

3- When I put tapes in the access port, I cannot click on 'Empty access
port..." when trying to perform an inventory on the library.  Is the
option suppose to be greyed out?

 

4- Any other useful informaiton you can think of that I should be aware
of when using ACSLS with netbackup?  (perhaps something you found out
that was helpful in the past).

 

 

TIA

 




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Re: [Veritas-bu] Recommended maximum # of drives per media server.

[Clooney, David]

Yeah, have been migrating all file n print to filers and utilising
VTL's. in essence wont be wasting any drives as they are virtual and in
abundance should we need them. Additionally no requirement for SSO for
the same reason, however we need them configured in NBU for the ndmp
device paths and was trying to alleviate hitting a NBU limitation
further down the line.

In a physical non-ndmp drive env we would never reach a limitation as
the media server would be taking the overhead and would never try
configure the amount of drives we are intending to.

Regards
David Clooney


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From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:jpis...@lucidpixels.com] 
Sent: 20 July 2009 12:57
To: Clooney, David
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Remommended maximum # of drives per media
server.

Hi,

When I used to use NDMP I had one media server (i did not setup the 
initial environment) but the way it was setup is there was one media 
server with LTO-2 drives that were attached to the netapp/toaster), SSO 
was not used in the environment, nor were any fiber switches, this is a 
waste of two drives in the big picture, but this environment was 
specifically setup to backup this netapp/toaster unit.

Do you have a lot of netapp filers? Do you use SSO?

Justin.

On Mon, 20 Jul 2009, Clooney, David wrote:

> Thanks Justin
>
> Very useful info, however I was thinking more along the lines of a NBU
> limitation as a lot of the drives we are configuring are in fact
> filer/NDMP based drives and the overheads will be on the filer.
>
> Regards
>
> David Clooney
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:jpis...@lucidpixels.com]
> Sent: 20 July 2009 12:42
> To: Clooney, David
> Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Remommended maximum # of drives per media
> server.
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> That depends on how much throughput you can drive through the
> motherboard/network/disk.
>
> LTO-3 = 90MiB/s for compressed data
> LTO-4 = 120MiB/s for compressed data
>
> (when rating, people usually rate for 180MiB/s and 240MiB/s to account
> for
> 2:1 compression)
>
> So if you have 10 gigabit ethernet (or) a fast disk array, you need to
> make sure there is enough bandwidth (today, PCI-e lanes) on the
> motherboard to handle how many drives you plan on putting in a server.
>
> This is just my opinion:
>
> Minimum drives per media server: 2 (to faciliate a restore incase one
> drive goes down and you are not using the FORCE_RESTORE media server
> directive).
>
> LTO-2 = 2 drives per server (hp dl38[0-5]* class + 1gbps)
> LTO-3 = 4 drives per server (same class + 10gbps)
> LTO-4 = 3-4 drives per server (if same class of hw + 10gbps)
>
> What kind of configuration(s) does everyone here use? How many drives
> per
> media server?
>
> Justin.
>
> On Mon, 20 Jul 2009, Clooney, David wrote:
>
>> Hi All
>>
>>
>>
>> Does anyone know the symantec maximum number of recommended drives
per
>> media server?
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Remommended maximum # of drives per media server.

[Clooney, David]

Thanks Justin

Very useful info, however I was thinking more along the lines of a NBU
limitation as a lot of the drives we are configuring are in fact
filer/NDMP based drives and the overheads will be on the filer.

Regards
 
David Clooney

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From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:jpis...@lucidpixels.com] 
Sent: 20 July 2009 12:42
To: Clooney, David
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Remommended maximum # of drives per media
server.

Hi Dave,

That depends on how much throughput you can drive through the 
motherboard/network/disk.

LTO-3 = 90MiB/s for compressed data
LTO-4 = 120MiB/s for compressed data

(when rating, people usually rate for 180MiB/s and 240MiB/s to account
for 
2:1 compression)

So if you have 10 gigabit ethernet (or) a fast disk array, you need to 
make sure there is enough bandwidth (today, PCI-e lanes) on the 
motherboard to handle how many drives you plan on putting in a server.

This is just my opinion:

Minimum drives per media server: 2 (to faciliate a restore incase one 
drive goes down and you are not using the FORCE_RESTORE media server 
directive).

LTO-2 = 2 drives per server (hp dl38[0-5]* class + 1gbps)
LTO-3 = 4 drives per server (same class + 10gbps)
LTO-4 = 3-4 drives per server (if same class of hw + 10gbps)

What kind of configuration(s) does everyone here use? How many drives
per 
media server?

Justin.

On Mon, 20 Jul 2009, Clooney, David wrote:

> Hi All
>
>
>
> Does anyone know the symantec maximum number of recommended drives per
> media server?
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
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[Veritas-bu] Remommended maximum # of drives per media server.

[Clooney, David]

Hi All

 

Does anyone know the symantec maximum number of recommended drives per
media server?

 

Regards

 

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[Veritas-bu] Not all NDMP drives being utilised

[Clooney, David]

Hi All

 

We have a situation that I am struggling to resolve, even with the aid of 
symantec.

 

All NBU 6.5.3.1

Solaris 10 cluster Master

Solaris 10 media server

HPUX  11.00 media server

SUN VTL Plus 2 with NDMP 4 functionality

L700 with 4 stk T10k drives with encryption - mounts/dismounts via ACSLS

 

The basis of what we are trying to achieve( which is working on the most part) 
is by writing the primary copy to a vtl volume and then duplicating a copy to 
physical with the VTL (as the NDMP host) being the data mover for the 
duplication. This is all working fine and indeed the vtl  is moving the data 
during the duplication process, in turn alleviating the responsibility from the 
NBU media server, however the issue we have is that most of the time not all 4 
backend drives are being utilised for no apparent reason. Most of the time ¾ 
are being used, and sometimes 2/4.

 

Each media server is presented a virtual library along with a number of vtl 
drives for the primary copy of a SLP.

Each media server is then configured via NDMP for the use of the T10k physical 
drives.

 

Not to complicate the matter with the configuration as the main issue is not 
utilising 4/4 backend drives. All the main suspects have been checked, i.e. max 
drives on the stu, max jobs per client etc etc. think this is proved as there 
are occasions where 4/4 do get utilised

 

The backend T10k's are shared between the media servers, i.e. NDMP SSO , 
vmoprcmd extract below can see only ¾ being used. Additionally vmdareq below 
that

 

NDMP_Dr00-01 Yes Yes200594  200594  Yes   hcart3

 $hpux_server/dev/scsi/sequential/c2t0d0 
($vtl_node_with_ndmp4) ACS

$solaris_server   /dev/scsi/sequential/c2t0d0 
($vtl_node_with_ndmp4) ACTIVE

 

NDMP_Dr00-02 Yes Yes200589  200589  Yes   hcart3

 $hpux_server/dev/scsi/sequential/c3t0d0 
($vtl_node_with_ndmp4) ACS

$solaris_server   /dev/scsi/sequential/c3t0d0 
($vtl_node_with_ndmp4) ACTIVE

 

NDMP_Dr00-03 Yes Yes200590  200590  Yes   hcart3

 $hpux_server   /dev/scsi/sequential/c4t0d0 
($vtl_node_with_ndmp4) ACS

$solaris_server   /dev/scsi/sequential/c4t0d0 
($vtl_node_with_ndmp4) ACTIVE

 

NDMP_Dr00-04 No  No Nohcart3

 $hpux_server  /dev/scsi/sequential/c2t1d0 
($vtl_node_with_ndmp4) ACS

$solaris_server   /dev/scsi/sequential/c2t1d0 
($vtl_node_with_ndmp4) ACS

 

NDMP_Dr00-01 - RESERVED on Wed May 20 11:18:10 2009

 $hpux_serverUP

 $solaris_server   RESERVED UP

NDMP_Dr00-02 - RESERVED on Wed May 20 11:17:57 2009

 $hpux_serverUP

 $solaris_server   RESERVED UP

NDMP_Dr00-03 - RESERVED on Wed May 20 11:20:27 2009

 $hpux_server   UP

 $solaris_server   RESERVED UP

NDMP_Dr00-04 - AVAILABLE

$hpux_server   UP

 $solaris_server   UP

 

>From my assumptions I think there is still a reserve of some sort  being held 
>on the drive that isn't being used, attempted to scour a "nbrb -dump" for this 
>particular drive to no avail.

 

So if anyone has experienced anything similar or indeed can share some advice 
etc I would be most grateful.

 

Regards

 

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[Veritas-bu] Determine available drives

[Clooney, David]

All

Solaris 10 64 bit, NBU 6.5.3.1

In the old 5.1 days I was able to look a the bpsched log in order to
quickly determine the num of available drives the scheduler thinks a
storage unit has available.

Anyone know how to determine this info quickly in 6.5.3.1?

Regards
 
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Hi David.

That looks like something for which there would likely be corresponding
information on the SQL side of things.  What do you see in the ERRORLOG
at the time of this failure?

The location of the ERRORLOG will vary from one installation to the
next, but a typical location might be:

 Directory of C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL.1\MSSQL\LOG

05/12/2009  12:00 AM20,410 ERRORLOG
05/06/2009  12:00 AM 9,632 ERRORLOG.1
05/04/2009  05:18 PM11,828 ERRORLOG.2
04/29/2009  04:50 PM11,828 ERRORLOG.3
04/28/2009  05:00 PM12,292 ERRORLOG.4
04/24/2009  06:16 PM11,830 ERRORLOG.5
04/20/2009  07:51 PM11,828 ERRORLOG.6

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP SSO tape drive backup failing

[Clooney, David]

Agree with ed, check the fundamentals, i.e. utilise set_ndmp_attr
-verify or tpautoconf.

 

We currently share 20 9940B drives amongst 2 solaris 10 media servers, 2
windows servers and 4 FAS NetApp's no problems.

 

 

 

 

David Clooney

Enterprise Storage Services

 

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts
Sent: 16 April 2009 12:37
To: mark wragge
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP SSO tape drive backup failing

 

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:05 AM, mark wragge 
wrote:

Hi .Have just configured netbackup 6.5.3 using the device wizard to
configure a robot and 2 lto4 tape drives which are Shared on a SAN. The
drives are shared between the Linux backup server and 1 Netapp Filers.
The device wizard has correctly detected the Robot and 2 Tape Drives
which are shared with the NDMP device.

 

I can use the master server to perform a backup successfully. When i try
to perofrm a backup of /vol/vol0 using the NDMP storage unit the backup
fails. THe NDMP tape devices have not come online under device monitor.


Have you set up the authentication from the master server?  You should
create an account on the filer for NetBackup to use and then tell
NetBackup to use it.  Do you also have the NetBackup NDMP license
installed on the master?


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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.3.1 Drive limit

[Clooney, David]

Mixed reviews by the looks of it.

 

We have been told 128 per media server max from symantec, however some
other group members mentioned they were provided a fix/patch.

 

Regards

 

 

David Clooney

 

From: smpt [mailto:sm...@peppas.gr] 
Sent: 07 April 2009 10:42
To: Clooney, David; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.3.1 Drive limit

 

HI,

I just want to see if you manage to solve this problem.

I will install a VTL with 140 drives in the near future and I already
have 85 drives installed.

 

I open a case to Symantec for this and they told me that there is no
drive limit.

stefanos

 



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David
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To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.3.1 Drive limit

 

Hi All

 

Anyone aware of NBU 6.5.3.1 having a limit on the number of drives in an
environment.

 

When trying to add more than 200, we are getting

 

Already configured the max number drives for this version

Adding this drive would exceed the maximum allowed

 

Surely 200 is pretty minimal, or possibly a licensing issue?

 

Regards 

David Clooney

Enterprise Storage Services

 



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Re: [Veritas-bu] Media server choices

[Clooney, David]

NBU wise is should  work np. However  maintenance wise I would  stick
with unix/linux, unless your VB  skills are up there ?

 
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Media server choices

We have Solaris 10 master at 6.5.3.1, 3 Solaris 10 media servers at
6.5.3.1, our windows group wants to set up some VMWare.
We have a choice of combining the Windows media server with the VMWare
or making it separate Unix or Windows - any thoughts?

My thought was that the windows media server should "play nicely" with
the existing unix servers, and it might be better to have windows
connections to backup the VMWare - is this a false assumption?


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[Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.3.1 Drive limit

[Clooney, David]

Hi All

 

Anyone aware of NBU 6.5.3.1 having a limit on the number of drives in an
environment.

 

When trying to add more than 200, we are getting

 

Already configured the max number drives for this version

Adding this drive would exceed the maximum allowed

 

Surely 200 is pretty minimal, or possibly a licensing issue?

 

Regards 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Unable to find image in Restore/Catalog

[Clooney, David]

You need to specify whether it's a backup or archive

bplist -B/A -C EKMS -t 13 -s 03/22/2009 00:00 -e 03/23/2009 00:00 -R /
 
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Hi,

I get following output.

# bplist -C EKMS -t 13 -s 03/22/2009 00:00 -e 03/23/2009 00:00 -R /
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Re: [Veritas-bu] VTL Replication between 2 sites

[Clooney, David]

Thanks for the info Bill

 

 

David Clooney

Enterprise Storage Services

From: Bill Roth [mailto:william.c.r...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 27 March 2009 22:04
To: Clooney, David
Cc: sm...@peppas.gr; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] VTL Replication between 2 sites

 

David,

 

For compatibility with a specific product check the NetBackup
OpenStorage HCL at:
ftp://exftpp.symantec.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_Enterprise_Serv
er/284599.pdf

 

> "From an NBU point of view how does this plug in, i.e. does NBU hook
into a specific VTL api for instance."

 

A vendor specific plug-in gets installed on each NetBackup media server
that needs to communicate with the OST Storage Server.

FalconStor, Quantum, PDDO, and Data Domain each have their own vendor
specific plug-ins.

The "NetBackup Shared Storage Guide" has a section dedicated to
OpenStorage that goes into a nice amount of detail.

 

The only contact I have at FalconStor is Peter Eicher whom can likely
point you in the right direction (peter.eic...@falconstor.com).

For disclosure purposes I'm a Data Domain guy (and beyond that I'm not
interested in polluting this forum with marketing or sales content).

 

Thanks, Bill

 

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Clooney, David
 wrote:

Very interesting Bill

 

We currently utilise a SUN VTL (falconstor ported to SUN) and have read
a while back that falconstor had signed up to open storage.

 

>From an NBU point of view how does this plug in, i.e. does NBU hook into
a specific VTL api for instance.

 

Its all a bit vague to be honest, any additional info would be
appreciated,

 

Regards

 

 

David Clooney

Enterprise Storage Services

 

 

From: Bill Roth [mailto:william.c.r...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 27 March 2009 18:11
To: sm...@peppas.gr
Cc: Clooney, David; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 


Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] VTL Replication between 2 sites

 

I'm in agreement with "smpt1":

 

OST / OpenStorage is likely the best way to address the VTL replication
challenge.

 

Quantum, FalconStor, PDDO, and Data Domain all support OpenStorage.

 

The low bandwidth replication is facilitated by means of deduplication
and is properly referred to as optimized duplication from the
perspective of NetBackup.

Replication traffic flows between OST Storage Servers and not through
any NetBackup media servers.

 

NetBackup schedules, controls, monitors, and catalogs the duplicate
backup images created via optimized duplication.

You can set different retention periods for each copy.

You can set a given copy to primary using the NetBackup catalog utility
in order to recover from it.

You can use NetBackup's reporting mechanism's to track the whole thing.


NetBackup 6.5.4 supports hierarchical (cascaded) duplication, where (for
instance) a third copy can be sourced from a specific copy number.

This scenario allows you to backup to disk at site "A", opt-dupe to site
"B", and then create a physical tape based copy at site "B" using the
disk based copy at site "B".

 

Lots of flexibility, lots or options, all controlled and cataloged by
NetBackup.

 

- Bill

 

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 4:52 AM, smpt  wrote:

Check the Quantum DXi7500. It uses OST and can replicate to another DXi
the
data and netbackup is aware of it

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] VTL Replication between 2 sites

You would first have to make siteA volumes non-rbotic and then inventory
site B.

NBU will assume a tape has been pulled from 1 library and reinserted
into another. Its key to make siteA volumes non-robotic however before
inventory'ing site B.

The replication i.e. same volume will be down to your VTL replication
mechanism


Regards


David Clooney
Enterprise Storage Services

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] VTL Replication between 2 sites


Hi,

Yes, if both siteA and siteB is under one backup domain, inventory of
siteB library will update siteA media catalog. However, the replication
of virtual tape from siteA to siteB, will the mediaID be the same? Does
NBU allow the same tape media exist in different tape libraries?

Another question with regards to this setup. If i were to restore data
in siteA and siteA VTL is down, what is the best way to restore data
that sit at siteB?



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> at merging 3 NBU domains into 1. And will t

Re: [Veritas-bu] VTL Replication between 2 sites

[Clooney, David]

Very interesting Bill

 

We currently utilise a SUN VTL (falconstor ported to SUN) and have read
a while back that falconstor had signed up to open storage.

 

>From an NBU point of view how does this plug in, i.e. does NBU hook into
a specific VTL api for instance.

 

Its all a bit vague to be honest, any additional info would be
appreciated,

 

Regards

 

 

David Clooney

Enterprise Storage Services

 

 

From: Bill Roth [mailto:william.c.r...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 27 March 2009 18:11
To: sm...@peppas.gr
Cc: Clooney, David; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] VTL Replication between 2 sites

 

I'm in agreement with "smpt1":

 

OST / OpenStorage is likely the best way to address the VTL replication
challenge.

 

Quantum, FalconStor, PDDO, and Data Domain all support OpenStorage.

 

The low bandwidth replication is facilitated by means of deduplication
and is properly referred to as optimized duplication from the
perspective of NetBackup.

Replication traffic flows between OST Storage Servers and not through
any NetBackup media servers.

 

NetBackup schedules, controls, monitors, and catalogs the duplicate
backup images created via optimized duplication.

You can set different retention periods for each copy.

You can set a given copy to primary using the NetBackup catalog utility
in order to recover from it.

You can use NetBackup's reporting mechanism's to track the whole thing.


NetBackup 6.5.4 supports hierarchical (cascaded) duplication, where (for
instance) a third copy can be sourced from a specific copy number.

This scenario allows you to backup to disk at site "A", opt-dupe to site
"B", and then create a physical tape based copy at site "B" using the
disk based copy at site "B".

 

Lots of flexibility, lots or options, all controlled and cataloged by
NetBackup.

 

- Bill

 

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 4:52 AM, smpt  wrote:

Check the Quantum DXi7500. It uses OST and can replicate to another DXi
the
data and netbackup is aware of it

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Clooney,
David
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 12:06 PM
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] VTL Replication between 2 sites

You would first have to make siteA volumes non-rbotic and then inventory
site B.

NBU will assume a tape has been pulled from 1 library and reinserted
into another. Its key to make siteA volumes non-robotic however before
inventory'ing site B.

The replication i.e. same volume will be down to your VTL replication
mechanism


Regards


David Clooney
Enterprise Storage Services

Internal X66059
External +44 20 8760 6059

david.cloo...@bankofamerica.com



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Sent: 27 March 2009 10:00
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] VTL Replication between 2 sites


Hi,

Yes, if both siteA and siteB is under one backup domain, inventory of
siteB library will update siteA media catalog. However, the replication
of virtual tape from siteA to siteB, will the mediaID be the same? Does
NBU allow the same tape media exist in different tape libraries?

Another question with regards to this setup. If i were to restore data
in siteA and siteA VTL is down, what is the best way to restore data
that sit at siteB?



Cloonster wrote:
> We were looking to setup the same environment, we are starting to look
> at merging 3 NBU domains into 1. And will therefore be able to
inventory
> a library at site B. as one domain NBU would know about these volumes.
> No need for importing etc merely lose sight A, inventory site B.
>
> Regards
>
> David Clooney
> Enterprise Storage Services
>
> Internal X66059
> External +44 20 8760 6059
> david.clooney < at > bankofamerica.com <http://bankofamerica.com/> 
>
>
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<http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/> 
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> Sent: 27 March 2009 07:13
> To: VERITAS-BU < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu
<http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/> 
> Subject: [Veritas-bu] VTL Replication between 2 sites
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Anyone has the following setup in their environment?
>
> I read about some VTL from EMC, IBM, HP, etc having storage products
> such VTL that ables to do low-bandwidth replication using LAN or WAN.
>
> If incoperate this with NBU, imagine i have a master server on siteA
and
> control a media server at siteB. I have 2 x VTLs, 1 in site A (robot
> control by master) and 1 in siteB (robot control at media serv

Re: [Veritas-bu] VTL Replication between 2 sites

[Clooney, David]

You would first have to make siteA volumes non-rbotic and then inventory
site B.

NBU will assume a tape has been pulled from 1 library and reinserted
into another. Its key to make siteA volumes non-robotic however before
inventory'ing site B.

The replication i.e. same volume will be down to your VTL replication
mechanism

Regards

 
David Clooney
Enterprise Storage Services
 
Internal X66059
External +44 20 8760 6059
david.cloo...@bankofamerica.com
 

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From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of dy018
Sent: 27 March 2009 10:00
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] VTL Replication between 2 sites


Hi,

Yes, if both siteA and siteB is under one backup domain, inventory of
siteB library will update siteA media catalog. However, the replication
of virtual tape from siteA to siteB, will the mediaID be the same? Does
NBU allow the same tape media exist in different tape libraries?

Another question with regards to this setup. If i were to restore data
in siteA and siteA VTL is down, what is the best way to restore data
that sit at siteB?



Cloonster wrote:
> We were looking to setup the same environment, we are starting to look
> at merging 3 NBU domains into 1. And will therefore be able to
inventory
> a library at site B. as one domain NBU would know about these volumes.
> No need for importing etc merely lose sight A, inventory site B.
> 
> Regards
> 
> David Clooney
> Enterprise Storage Services
> 
> Internal X66059
> External +44 20 8760 6059
> david.clooney < at > bankofamerica.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: veritas-bu-bounces < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of
dy018
> Sent: 27 March 2009 07:13
> To: VERITAS-BU < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: [Veritas-bu] VTL Replication between 2 sites
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Anyone has the following setup in their environment?
> 
> I read about some VTL from EMC, IBM, HP, etc having storage products
> such VTL that ables to do low-bandwidth replication using LAN or WAN.
> 
> If incoperate this with NBU, imagine i have a master server on siteA
and
> control a media server at siteB. I have 2 x VTLs, 1 in site A (robot
> control by master) and 1 in siteB (robot control at media server). 
> 
> Backups going from siteA to VTL will be replicated over to siteB VTL.
> I've check that this replication is done by the VTL and so NBU will
not
> be aware of the replication. In the event of restoration of siteA data
> into siteB servers, what will be the restore process? 
> 
> My guess will be needing to import all the data replicated over to
siteB
> first before doing restore? Anyone can verify?
> 
> Regards
> 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] VTL Replication between 2 sites

[Clooney, David]

We were looking to setup the same environment, we are starting to look
at merging 3 NBU domains into 1. And will therefore be able to inventory
a library at site B. as one domain NBU would know about these volumes.
No need for importing etc merely lose sight A, inventory site B.

Regards
 
David Clooney
Enterprise Storage Services
 
Internal X66059
External +44 20 8760 6059
david.cloo...@bankofamerica.com
 

-Original Message-
From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of dy018
Sent: 27 March 2009 07:13
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] VTL Replication between 2 sites


Hi,

Anyone has the following setup in their environment?

I read about some VTL from EMC, IBM, HP, etc having storage products
such VTL that ables to do low-bandwidth replication using LAN or WAN.

If incoperate this with NBU, imagine i have a master server on siteA and
control a media server at siteB. I have 2 x VTLs, 1 in site A (robot
control by master) and 1 in siteB (robot control at media server). 

Backups going from siteA to VTL will be replicated over to siteB VTL.
I've check that this replication is done by the VTL and so NBU will not
be aware of the replication. In the event of restoration of siteA data
into siteB servers, what will be the restore process? 

My guess will be needing to import all the data replicated over to siteB
first before doing restore? Anyone can verify?

Regards

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Sun NDMP NetBackup 6.5.3

[Clooney, David]

Hey Pat, long time

 

We use this config across all our environments, R200 and the FAS series.

 

No issues what so ever.

 

Regards

 

 

David Clooney

Enterprise Storage Services

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Patrick
Sent: 10 March 2009 20:16
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Sun NDMP NetBackup 6.5.3

 

Does anyone have any experience with this configuration? I am having
problems restoring although the backups work fine. If I click a specific
file or files the restore works, however if I pick the directory only
the directory is restored, none of the files. Any help will be greatly
appreciated.

 

 

Regards,

 

Patrick Whelan

VERITAS Certified NetBackup Support Engineer for UNIX.

VERITAS Certified NetBackup Support Engineer for Windows.

 

netbac...@whelan-consulting.co.uk

 

   

 

 




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Re: [Veritas-bu] STK SL3000 - NBU 6.5.3

[Clooney, David]

Thanks Renee

Yep, definitely FC, have cheked

Regards

 
David Clooney
Enterprise Storage Services
 
Internal X66059
External +44 20 8760 6059
david.cloo...@bankofamerica.com
 

-Original Message-
From: Renee Carlisle [mailto:rcarli...@serverwarecorp.com] 
Sent: 11 March 2009 14:55
To: Clooney, David; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: STK SL3000 - NBU 6.5.3

OK, trying again...another previous post to this forum I saved about
this library:

The SL3000 is set to HLI by default. I'm told this is what you'd use
with ACSLS. But for those of us who prefer FC... In SLConsole, select
Tools / Select Active Cells from the menu. Go to the "Select Active
Cells" tab, then change the "Interface Type" pulldown from HLI to
FC-SCSI. Click Apply.

To tie this thread back to NetBackup, I first noticed the problem when
volmgr/bin/scan said the robot had zero drives (though it did list the
drives separately). The device configuration wizard detected all the
devices as well, but said the robot was not serialized and all the
drives had the limitation of being standalone. Obviously all fixed after
changing the interface type.

Renee

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Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 10:51 AM
To: Renee Carlisle; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: STK SL3000 - NBU 6.5.3

Thanks Renee

Unfortunately we have applied the device mappings your technote
specifies.

Regards

 
David Clooney
Enterprise Storage Services
 
Internal X66059
External +44 20 8760 6059
david.cloo...@bankofamerica.com
 

-Original Message-
From: Renee Carlisle [mailto:rcarli...@serverwarecorp.com] 
Sent: 11 March 2009 14:31
To: Clooney, David; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: STK SL3000 - NBU 6.5.3

David,

I saw this in a posting a few months back...since we resell the STK line
I hung onto it in case I ever needed itit may or may not resolve
your issue...let us know:

Symptoms
Users of NetBackUp version 6.x cannot configure a new SL3000 tape
library.

When installing a new SL3000 tape library, users of Symantics Veritas
NetBackUp cannot configure the library.

Resolution
Configuring NetBackUp to work with SL3000 requires a package update

When installing an SL3000 with Veritas NetBackUp 6.0 or 6.5.  And the
library is connected  via Fibre Channel, NetBackUp will fail to
configure the library properly.
Netbackup doesn't contain the SL3000 library mappings.

The fix is provide by Symantic for the Veritas NetBackUp products in the
form of a package update.
The
 following link will provide the package update for download, package
install instructions and other package details.
http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/302598.htm
Note: the link provided is outside Sun Microsystem control and could be
deleted, changed or moved without the knowledge of Sun.  Contact
Symantics for problems, information or support concerning the referenced
package.
Symantic Document ID: 302598 

Renee

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From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Clooney,
David
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 9:31 AM
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] STK SL3000 - NBU 6.5.3

Hi All

Hit another snag in a new deployment, seem to be requiring knowledge
from the group on a number of occasions over the last couple of months,
its appreciated.

Our DR environment has just acquired an STK SL3000 and we are having
issues with the robotic config in NBU.

If you run the wizard the results are that NBU interprets the library as
remote for some unknown reason.

We have downloaded the device mappings and applied successfully however
don't seem to be able to get it working.

The T10kB drives in the library are fine.

The library and drives are dual pathed and visible down both paths

c5::500104f000ad41c8,0 med-changer  connectedconfigured
unknown
c5::500104f000ad41d8,0 tape connectedconfigured
unknown
c5::500104f000ad41e1,0 tape connectedconfigured
unknown
c5::500104f000ad41e4,0 tape connectedconfigured
unknown
c5::500104f000ad41ed,0 tape connectedconfigured
unknown
c6 fc   connectedunconfigured
unknown
c7 fc-fabricconnectedconfigured
unknown
c7::500104f000ad41c8,0 med-changer  connectedconfigured
unknown
c7::500104f000ad41d8,0 tape connectedconfigured
unknown
c7::500104f000ad41e1,0 tape connectedconfigured
unknown
c7::500104f000ad41e4,0 tape connectedconfigured
unknown
c7::500104f000ad41ed,0 tape connectedconfigured
unknown

additionally scan -chnager finds the library and robot no problem

Re: [Veritas-bu] STK SL3000 - NBU 6.5.3

[Clooney, David]

Thanks Renee

Unfortunately we have applied the device mappings your technote
specifies.

Regards

 
David Clooney
Enterprise Storage Services
 
Internal X66059
External +44 20 8760 6059
david.cloo...@bankofamerica.com
 

-Original Message-
From: Renee Carlisle [mailto:rcarli...@serverwarecorp.com] 
Sent: 11 March 2009 14:31
To: Clooney, David; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: STK SL3000 - NBU 6.5.3

David,

I saw this in a posting a few months back...since we resell the STK line
I hung onto it in case I ever needed itit may or may not resolve
your issue...let us know:

Symptoms
Users of NetBackUp version 6.x cannot configure a new SL3000 tape
library.

When installing a new SL3000 tape library, users of Symantics Veritas
NetBackUp cannot configure the library.

Resolution
Configuring NetBackUp to work with SL3000 requires a package update

When installing an SL3000 with Veritas NetBackUp 6.0 or 6.5.  And the
library is connected  via Fibre Channel, NetBackUp will fail to
configure the library properly.
Netbackup doesn't contain the SL3000 library mappings.

The fix is provide by Symantic for the Veritas NetBackUp products in the
form of a package update.
The
 following link will provide the package update for download, package
install instructions and other package details.
http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/302598.htm
Note: the link provided is outside Sun Microsystem control and could be
deleted, changed or moved without the knowledge of Sun.  Contact
Symantics for problems, information or support concerning the referenced
package.
Symantic Document ID: 302598 

Renee

-Original Message-
From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Clooney,
David
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 9:31 AM
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] STK SL3000 - NBU 6.5.3

Hi All

Hit another snag in a new deployment, seem to be requiring knowledge
from the group on a number of occasions over the last couple of months,
its appreciated.

Our DR environment has just acquired an STK SL3000 and we are having
issues with the robotic config in NBU.

If you run the wizard the results are that NBU interprets the library as
remote for some unknown reason.

We have downloaded the device mappings and applied successfully however
don't seem to be able to get it working.

The T10kB drives in the library are fine.

The library and drives are dual pathed and visible down both paths

c5::500104f000ad41c8,0 med-changer  connectedconfigured
unknown
c5::500104f000ad41d8,0 tape connectedconfigured
unknown
c5::500104f000ad41e1,0 tape connectedconfigured
unknown
c5::500104f000ad41e4,0 tape connectedconfigured
unknown
c5::500104f000ad41ed,0 tape connectedconfigured
unknown
c6 fc   connectedunconfigured
unknown
c7 fc-fabricconnectedconfigured
unknown
c7::500104f000ad41c8,0 med-changer  connectedconfigured
unknown
c7::500104f000ad41d8,0 tape connectedconfigured
unknown
c7::500104f000ad41e1,0 tape connectedconfigured
unknown
c7::500104f000ad41e4,0 tape connectedconfigured
unknown
c7::500104f000ad41ed,0 tape connectedconfigured
unknown

additionally scan -chnager finds the library and robot no problem


*** SDT_CHANGER 


Device Name  : "/dev/sg/c0tw500104f000ad41c8l0"
Passthru Name: "/dev/sg/c0tw500104f000ad41c8l0"
Volume Header: ""
Port: -1; Bus: -1; Target: -1; LUN: -1
Inquiry: "STK SL3000  2.05"
Vendor ID  : "STK "
Product ID : "SL3000  "
Product Rev: "2.05"
Serial Number: "571000200222"
WWN  : ""
WWN Id Type  : 0
Device Identifier: ""
Device Type: SDT_CHANGER
NetBackup Robot Type: 8
Removable  : Yes
Device Supports: SCSI-5
Number of Drives : 4
Number of Slots  : 200
Number of Media Access Ports: 26
Drive 1 Serial Number  : "572004000580"
Drive 2 Serial Number  : "572004000573"
Drive 3 Serial Number  : "572004000561"
Drive 4 Serial Number  : "572004000267"
Flags : 0x0
Reason: 0x0

Device Name  : "/dev/sg/c1tw500104f000ad41c8l0"
Passthru Name: "/dev/sg/c1tw500104f000ad41c8l0"
Volume Header: ""
Port: -1; Bus: -1; Target: -1; LUN: -1
Inquiry: "STK SL3000  2.05"
Vendor ID  : "STK "
Product ID : "SL3000  &

[Veritas-bu] STK SL3000 - NBU 6.5.3

[Clooney, David]

Hi All

Hit another snag in a new deployment, seem to be requiring knowledge
from the group on a number of occasions over the last couple of months,
its appreciated.

Our DR environment has just acquired an STK SL3000 and we are having
issues with the robotic config in NBU.

If you run the wizard the results are that NBU interprets the library as
remote for some unknown reason.

We have downloaded the device mappings and applied successfully however
don't seem to be able to get it working.

The T10kB drives in the library are fine.

The library and drives are dual pathed and visible down both paths

c5::500104f000ad41c8,0 med-changer  connectedconfigured
unknown
c5::500104f000ad41d8,0 tape connectedconfigured
unknown
c5::500104f000ad41e1,0 tape connectedconfigured
unknown
c5::500104f000ad41e4,0 tape connectedconfigured
unknown
c5::500104f000ad41ed,0 tape connectedconfigured
unknown
c6 fc   connectedunconfigured
unknown
c7 fc-fabricconnectedconfigured
unknown
c7::500104f000ad41c8,0 med-changer  connectedconfigured
unknown
c7::500104f000ad41d8,0 tape connectedconfigured
unknown
c7::500104f000ad41e1,0 tape connectedconfigured
unknown
c7::500104f000ad41e4,0 tape connectedconfigured
unknown
c7::500104f000ad41ed,0 tape connectedconfigured
unknown

additionally scan -chnager finds the library and robot no problem


*** SDT_CHANGER 


Device Name  : "/dev/sg/c0tw500104f000ad41c8l0"
Passthru Name: "/dev/sg/c0tw500104f000ad41c8l0"
Volume Header: ""
Port: -1; Bus: -1; Target: -1; LUN: -1
Inquiry: "STK SL3000  2.05"
Vendor ID  : "STK "
Product ID : "SL3000  "
Product Rev: "2.05"
Serial Number: "571000200222"
WWN  : ""
WWN Id Type  : 0
Device Identifier: ""
Device Type: SDT_CHANGER
NetBackup Robot Type: 8
Removable  : Yes
Device Supports: SCSI-5
Number of Drives : 4
Number of Slots  : 200
Number of Media Access Ports: 26
Drive 1 Serial Number  : "572004000580"
Drive 2 Serial Number  : "572004000573"
Drive 3 Serial Number  : "572004000561"
Drive 4 Serial Number  : "572004000267"
Flags : 0x0
Reason: 0x0

Device Name  : "/dev/sg/c1tw500104f000ad41c8l0"
Passthru Name: "/dev/sg/c1tw500104f000ad41c8l0"
Volume Header: ""
Port: -1; Bus: -1; Target: -1; LUN: -1
Inquiry: "STK SL3000  2.05"
Vendor ID  : "STK "
Product ID : "SL3000  "
Product Rev: "2.05"
Serial Number: "571000200222"
WWN  : ""
WWN Id Type  : 0
Device Identifier: ""
Device Type: SDT_CHANGER
NetBackup Robot Type: 8
Removable  : Yes
Device Supports: SCSI-5
Number of Drives : 4
Number of Slots  : 200
Number of Media Access Ports: 26
Drive 1 Serial Number  : "572004000580"
Drive 2 Serial Number  : "572004000573"
Drive 3 Serial Number  : "572004000561"
Drive 4 Serial Number  : "572004000267"
Flags : 0x0
Reason: 0x0

However, even I I try add the library through tpconfig I just don't seem
to be able to get is working.

Anyone know of any gotach'a with this particular library??

Regards
 
David Clooney
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[Veritas-bu] STK SL3000 - NBU 6.5.3

[Clooney, David]

Hi All

Hit another snag in a new deployment, seem to be requiring knowledge
from the group on a number of occasions over the last couple of months,
its appreciated.

Our DR environment has just acquired an STK SL3000 and we are having
issues with the robotic config in NBU.

If you run the wizard the results are that NBU interprets the library as
remote for some unknown reason.

We have downloaded the device mappings and applied successfully however
don't seem to be able to get it working.

The T10kB drives in the library are fine.

The library and drives are dual pathed and visible down both paths

c5::500104f000ad41c8,0 med-changer  connectedconfigured
unknown
c5::500104f000ad41d8,0 tape connectedconfigured
unknown
c5::500104f000ad41e1,0 tape connectedconfigured
unknown
c5::500104f000ad41e4,0 tape connectedconfigured
unknown
c5::500104f000ad41ed,0 tape connectedconfigured
unknown
c6 fc   connectedunconfigured
unknown
c7 fc-fabricconnectedconfigured
unknown
c7::500104f000ad41c8,0 med-changer  connectedconfigured
unknown
c7::500104f000ad41d8,0 tape connectedconfigured
unknown
c7::500104f000ad41e1,0 tape connectedconfigured
unknown
c7::500104f000ad41e4,0 tape connectedconfigured
unknown
c7::500104f000ad41ed,0 tape connectedconfigured
unknown

additionally scan -chnager finds the library and robot no problem


*** SDT_CHANGER 


Device Name  : "/dev/sg/c0tw500104f000ad41c8l0"
Passthru Name: "/dev/sg/c0tw500104f000ad41c8l0"
Volume Header: ""
Port: -1; Bus: -1; Target: -1; LUN: -1
Inquiry: "STK SL3000  2.05"
Vendor ID  : "STK "
Product ID : "SL3000  "
Product Rev: "2.05"
Serial Number: "571000200222"
WWN  : ""
WWN Id Type  : 0
Device Identifier: ""
Device Type: SDT_CHANGER
NetBackup Robot Type: 8
Removable  : Yes
Device Supports: SCSI-5
Number of Drives : 4
Number of Slots  : 200
Number of Media Access Ports: 26
Drive 1 Serial Number  : "572004000580"
Drive 2 Serial Number  : "572004000573"
Drive 3 Serial Number  : "572004000561"
Drive 4 Serial Number  : "572004000267"
Flags : 0x0
Reason: 0x0

Device Name  : "/dev/sg/c1tw500104f000ad41c8l0"
Passthru Name: "/dev/sg/c1tw500104f000ad41c8l0"
Volume Header: ""
Port: -1; Bus: -1; Target: -1; LUN: -1
Inquiry: "STK SL3000  2.05"
Vendor ID  : "STK "
Product ID : "SL3000  "
Product Rev: "2.05"
Serial Number: "571000200222"
WWN  : ""
WWN Id Type  : 0
Device Identifier: ""
Device Type: SDT_CHANGER
NetBackup Robot Type: 8
Removable  : Yes
Device Supports: SCSI-5
Number of Drives : 4
Number of Slots  : 200
Number of Media Access Ports: 26
Drive 1 Serial Number  : "572004000580"
Drive 2 Serial Number  : "572004000573"
Drive 3 Serial Number  : "572004000561"
Drive 4 Serial Number  : "572004000267"
Flags : 0x0
Reason: 0x0

However, even I I try add the library through tpconfig I just don't seem
to be able to get is working.

Anyone know of any gotach'a with this particular library??

Regards
 
David Clooney
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.3 Vault Query

[Clooney, David]

Thanks Gabriel 

 

This is what I have tried.

 

The Vault is setup for the correct volume group and pools, the criteria
to be met are all "backups", all policies etc etc in the last 8 days.
Duplication is skipped as this is taken care of in the SLP, catalog
backup skipped for the purpose of testing. As I am in implementation I
continuously duplicate to this volume group so there are definitely
valid image copies that meet the criteria.

 

However the vault runs successfully however finds no images. From your
mail below are you suggesting promote the duplicate copy to primary ?
and in turn the vault will then meet its criteria?

 

Thanks in advance

 

David Clooney

From: Rosenkoetter, Gabriel [mailto:gabriel.rosenkoet...@radian.biz] 
Sent: 04 March 2009 21:54
To: Clooney, David; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.3 Vault Query

 

No, Vault can certainly send duplicates off site. In fact, prior to the
advent of SLPs, most people duplicated images within Vault and sent
those off site. (I've always theoretically preferred to send my
originals off-site and promote my duplicates to be short on-site
retention, which Vault can also do, but I've never walked into an
environment already set up that way.) Just create the Vault within the
robot where the duplicates are and specify the appropriate limitations
(probably by volume pool in your case), skip the duplication step,
perform the catalog backup (really, please, perform the catalog backup),
and eject and generate reports.

 

--
gabriel rosenkoetter
Radian Group Inc, Senior Systems Engineer
gabriel.rosenkoet...@radian.biz, 215 231 1556

 

From: Clooney, David [mailto:david.cloo...@bankofamerica.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 12:56 PM
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.3 Vault Query

 

Hi All

 

Am I correct in saying that vault can only vault backups and not
duplications?

 

I.e. I am busy implementing a VTL(with NDMP functionality) and utilising
NBU Lifecycle management polices.

 

As the VTL is equipped with NDMP Version 4 we are able to zone in
physical drives on the backend of the VTL and pretty much setup NDMP
STU's to write to these physical devices. The reason for this approach
is that when we duplicate an image from a VTL volume to a physical
volume the VTL becomes the data mover.

 

I now want to setup a process on the volume group that the physical
backend volumes reside in, however these volumes are filled with
duplications and not backups.

 

I am guessing , as new to vault,  that you cannot vault duplicated
images?

 

Any suggestions would be helpful.

 

Regards

 

David Clooney

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Upgrading media server from 5.0.5 to 6.5.2

 


Hi Pranav 

I suggest you read the Symantec documentation 

Check out this document 
http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/290141.htm
<http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/290141.htm>  

Carl 



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Please provide the necessary steps that we should follow while doing
this and also looking for a solution to check media inconsistency.

We are also planning to attach a lto4 library with this.
So ,does this library can read lto2 tapes if we need to restore
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[Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.3 Vault Query

[Clooney, David]

Hi All

 

Am I correct in saying that vault can only vault backups and not
duplications?

 

I.e. I am busy implementing a VTL(with NDMP functionality) and utilising
NBU Lifecycle management polices.

 

As the VTL is equipped with NDMP Version 4 we are able to zone in
physical drives on the backend of the VTL and pretty much setup NDMP
STU's to write to these physical devices. The reason for this approach
is that when we duplicate an image from a VTL volume to a physical
volume the VTL becomes the data mover.

 

I now want to setup a process on the volume group that the physical
backend volumes reside in, however these volumes are filled with
duplications and not backups.

 

I am guessing , as new to vault,  that you cannot vault duplicated
images?

 

Any suggestions would be helpful.

 

Regards

 

David Clooney

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Upgrading media server from 5.0.5 to 6.5.2

 


Hi Pranav 

I suggest you read the Symantec documentation 

Check out this document 
http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/290141.htm
  

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this and also looking for a solution to check media inconsistency.

We are also planning to attach a lto4 library with this.
So ,does this library can read lto2 tapes if we need to restore
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[Veritas-bu] HELP !

[Clooney, David]

All

We have just upgraded a SUN clustered Solaris 10 NBU 6.0 MP4 to 6.5.3.

6.5 GA went on fine, along with 6.5.3 with no errors whatsoever, however
we initially could start the emm. With the help of symantec we can now
start emm however queries to emm are missing volumes etc.

Anyone had these sorts of issues?

Thanks

 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] HELP !

[Clooney, David]

Correction - couldn't start emm


All

We have just upgraded a SUN clustered Solaris 10 NBU 6.0 MP4 to 6.5.3.

6.5 GA went on fine, along with 6.5.3 with no errors whatsoever, however
we initially couldn't start the emm. With the help of symantec we can
now start emm however queries to emm are missing volumes etc.

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Thanks

 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] 6.5.1 windows Flash backup restore

[Clooney, David]

Thanks Justin & ed

 

That's great, have selected a raw partition backup and its kicked in
straight away. I can put it back to the original location as when I
dismount the volume and resync the shadow image pair HDS will take care
or mirroring it to that of the primary.

 

Regards

 

From: Ed Wilts [mailto:ewi...@ewilts.org] 
Sent: 08 January 2009 15:22
To: Clooney, David
Cc: judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com; jpis...@lucidpixels.com;
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] 6.5.1 windows Flash backup restore

 

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Clooney, David
 wrote:


NBU 6.5.1   Master Solaris 10
NBU 6.5.1 windows 2003 Media

We have process whereas we split an HDS shadow image pair and
mount the
secondary volume onto the root of c: on one of our NBU windows
media
servers, then take a backup.

i.e. once the process has completed the volume is C:\$voulme

I have setup a flashbackup windows policy with \\.\C:\$volume as
the
criteria to backup.

The backup works fine and sails through, and individual file
restores
complete successfully too however if I attempt to restore the
whole
volume from the backup the restore job just stays in a queued
state with
no indication as to whether there is some background processing
going
on.


You should be careful here.  If you're doing a full volume restore,
don't specify a directory tree, especially if you have a *lot* of files
(millions).  If you do a full volume restore pretending it's a
file-based restore, you'll need to map the file list for the volume.
We've seen cases where this simply craps out due to memory constraints.

Do a volume-based restore, although the destination volume has to be the
exact size as the original source volume.  i.e. don't restore /C/ but
restore \\.C\:

.../Ed 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] 6.5.1 windows Flash backup restore

[Clooney, David]

The original restore of the whole volume has just kicked into action
after 1 hour 40 mins. Will see how it pans out, will post the results.

Some indication would've from NBU would've been useful :-)


 
David Clooney
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-Original Message-
From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:jpis...@lucidpixels.com] 
Sent: 08 January 2009 14:48
To: Clooney, David
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: 6.5.1 windows Flash backup restore

Dave,

I would give that a try, but first, do ONE of the subdirectories, a
small one
to make sure that works first, e.g.: /C/EMACROFNP10/DFS_Data, then do
the entire /C/EMACROFNP10.

Then post your results :)

Justin.

On Thu, 8 Jan 2009, Clooney, David wrote:

> Thanks Justin
>
> The image contains just under 2 million files and comes in around
540GB.
>
> This restore is currently still Queued and has been so for an hour and
a half. It's the first restore of the entire contents of the backup I
have attempted.
>
> The selection I chose using  "bp" is listed below, are you suggesting
I go one directory deeper and selected all the individual located in
/C/EMACROFNP10/
>
> ?Selections: 1Current Path: /
?
> ?  Backup Date
?
> ?* 01/08/2009 10:03:52 /C/EMACROFNP10/
?
> ?   01/08/2009 10:03:52 /C/EMACROFNP10/DFS_Data/
?
> ?  01/08/2009 10:03:52 /C/EMACROFNP10/Data/
?
> ?  01/08/2009 10:03:52 /C/EMACROFNP10/OBPO Profiles/
?
> ?  01/08/2009 10:03:52 /C/EMACROFNP10/QaQuotasV4.dat
?
>
> Regards
>
> Dave
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:jpis...@lucidpixels.com]
> Sent: 08 January 2009 14:27
> To: Clooney, David
> Cc: judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com;
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: Re: 6.5.1 windows Flash backup restore
>
>
>
> On Thu, 8 Jan 2009, Clooney, David wrote:
>
>> Hi All
>>
>> NBU 6.5.1   Master Solaris 10
>> NBU 6.5.1 windows 2003 Media
>>
>> We have process whereas we split an HDS shadow image pair and mount
the
>> secondary volume onto the root of c: on one of our NBU windows media
>> servers, then take a backup.
>>
>> i.e. once the process has completed the volume is C:\$voulme
>>
>> I have setup a flashbackup windows policy with \\.\C:\$volume as the
>> criteria to backup.
>>
>> The backup works fine and sails through, and individual file restores
>> complete successfully too however if I attempt to restore the whole
>> volume from the backup the restore job just stays in a queued state
with
>> no indication as to whether there is some background processing going
>> on.
>>
>> Flashbackup is new to our environment and was wondering whether this
is
>> normal behaviour, or indeed if this is perhaps a known issue. None of
>> the virtual tapes used for the backup are mounted and there are no
tar
>> processors active on the media server?
>>
>> If any could shed some light it would be appreciated
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Dave
>
> Dave,
>
> When I used Flash Backup, I only used it on UNIX (Solaris) and never
Windows.
> However, I will mention the restore did seem to take some time to get
started,
> 8-12 minutes or so for a 10,000 files or so?  I never attempted to
restore the
> entire volume but the files beneath the volume.
>
> e.g.: C:\directory\myfiles
>
> If you try to restore C:\directory\myfiles and not C:\ (where
everything
> is checked off) does it work then?
>
> Does it ever timeout?  How long have you left it like that?
>
> Justin.
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Veritas-bu] 6.5.1 windows Flash backup restore

[Clooney, David]

Thanks Justin

The image contains just under 2 million files and comes in around 540GB. 

This restore is currently still Queued and has been so for an hour and a half. 
It's the first restore of the entire contents of the backup I have attempted.

The selection I chose using  "bp" is listed below, are you suggesting I go one 
directory deeper and selected all the individual located in /C/EMACROFNP10/

│Selections: 1Current Path: /   

 │
│  Backup Date  

 │
│* 01/08/2009 10:03:52 /C/EMACROFNP10/  

 │
│   01/08/2009 10:03:52 /C/EMACROFNP10/DFS_Data/

  │
│  01/08/2009 10:03:52 /C/EMACROFNP10/Data/ 

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Regards

Dave 


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From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:jpis...@lucidpixels.com] 
Sent: 08 January 2009 14:27
To: Clooney, David
Cc: judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: 6.5.1 windows Flash backup restore



On Thu, 8 Jan 2009, Clooney, David wrote:

> Hi All
>
> NBU 6.5.1   Master Solaris 10
> NBU 6.5.1 windows 2003 Media
>
> We have process whereas we split an HDS shadow image pair and mount the
> secondary volume onto the root of c: on one of our NBU windows media
> servers, then take a backup.
>
> i.e. once the process has completed the volume is C:\$voulme
>
> I have setup a flashbackup windows policy with \\.\C:\$volume as the
> criteria to backup.
>
> The backup works fine and sails through, and individual file restores
> complete successfully too however if I attempt to restore the whole
> volume from the backup the restore job just stays in a queued state with
> no indication as to whether there is some background processing going
> on.
>
> Flashbackup is new to our environment and was wondering whether this is
> normal behaviour, or indeed if this is perhaps a known issue. None of
> the virtual tapes used for the backup are mounted and there are no tar
> processors active on the media server?
>
> If any could shed some light it would be appreciated
>
> Thanks
>
> Dave

Dave,

When I used Flash Backup, I only used it on UNIX (Solaris) and never Windows.
However, I will mention the restore did seem to take some time to get started,
8-12 minutes or so for a 10,000 files or so?  I never attempted to restore the
entire volume but the files beneath the volume.

e.g.: C:\directory\myfiles

If you try to restore C:\directory\myfiles and not C:\ (where everything
is checked off) does it work then?

Does it ever timeout?  How long have you left it like that?

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[Veritas-bu] 6.5.1 windows Flash backup restore

[Clooney, David]

Hi All

NBU 6.5.1   Master Solaris 10
NBU 6.5.1 windows 2003 Media

We have process whereas we split an HDS shadow image pair and mount the
secondary volume onto the root of c: on one of our NBU windows media
servers, then take a backup.

i.e. once the process has completed the volume is C:\$voulme

I have setup a flashbackup windows policy with \\.\C:\$volume as the
criteria to backup.

The backup works fine and sails through, and individual file restores
complete successfully too however if I attempt to restore the whole
volume from the backup the restore job just stays in a queued state with
no indication as to whether there is some background processing going
on.

Flashbackup is new to our environment and was wondering whether this is
normal behaviour, or indeed if this is perhaps a known issue. None of
the virtual tapes used for the backup are mounted and there are no tar
processors active on the media server?

If any could shed some light it would be appreciated

Thanks

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Vault question

[Clooney, David]

Bill

Are you using VTL Plus version 1 or 2? As version 2 Release 3 now offers
NDMP 4 which enables NBU to incorporate any physical devices visible to
the VTL into a NBU storage unit.

What this means is that your VTL would become the data mover over FC as
apposed to your current setup where your duplication is happening over
ip by means of a vault server. All copies are now visible to NBU with
this method as apposed to legacy "tape Caching" or "Auto-Archving".

NBU 6.5 is needed, however you can see the benefits, all NBU lifecycle
management would stay the same.

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Bill-

By default, NetBackup will read from the media server which originally
did the backup (i.e. "owns" the media). Bpduplicate (which is what Vault
uses to duplicate images) does the same thing, so you would want to
choose the storage unit that belongs to the media server that originally
wrote those images.

If you end up duplicating images in one profile owned by multiple media
servers, you can use the "Advanced Duplication" check-box on the
Duplication tab. Only down side to that is you have to pre-allocate how
many drives on each media server will be "used" for duplication. That
read/write drive selection basically means how many bpduplicate
processes will be started using that media server and storage unit. If
you do not specify the "alternate read host", then, by default,
bpduplicate will mount the original media on the media server that owns
it.

The problem that most folks will get into with this, is that they will
use the basic duplication screen and select a storage unit for the
destination. If they do not filter using the "Choose Backups" tab, then
they could potentially duplicate a bunch of images from one media server
to another, which causes the data stream to go over the network to the
destination media server.

B-

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Hi,

Environment
Running NBU 5.1 MP6. Windows master, 1 Windows and 2 Solaris media
servers. Using a Sun VTL+ for primary backup and then vault to physical
tape. I have separate vaults for each media server. I use different
profiles for different retention periods for the physical tape. The VTL
drives are in a separate storage unit from the physical drives. 

Question
When I dupe images, does it matter which storage unit I select in the
profile? Should I use the SU that the primary image resides on? 

Please let me know if this is not enough info to answer my question.

Thanks,


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[Veritas-bu] 6.5 bpgp & bpdir replacement

[Clooney, David]

Hi All

Does anyone know if there a replacement for bpgp and bpdir in 6.5?

Regards

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Re: [Veritas-bu] client - jbpSA

[Clooney, David]

Cheers Jeff, any specifics as all looks good so far?

 

Would hate to have overlooked something.

 

Regards

 

 

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We saw lots of issues with RMAN backups until we upgrade the clients to
match the master when we went to 6.x.

 



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You are on the right track. 
Try upgrading the clients, there have been a number of upgrades to the
java software. 
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Hi all

Just a quick one for confirmation, I upgraded an environment weekend
just gone from 5.1MP6 to 6.5.1.

Our DBA's are informing me that they are having issues launching "jbpSA"
from the oracle clients.

Clients are still at 5.1 MP6 so I guess this is to be expected due to
version incompatibility?

Cheers

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[Veritas-bu] client - jbpSA

[Clooney, David]

Hi all

Just a quick one for confirmation, I upgraded an environment weekend
just gone from 5.1MP6 to 6.5.1.

Our DBA's are informing me that they are having issues launching "jbpSA"
from the oracle clients.

Clients are still at 5.1 MP6 so I guess this is to be expected due to
version incompatibility?

Cheers

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Re: [Veritas-bu] replicate catalog to another server

[Clooney, David]

I have certainly used that exact method in 5.1 and included the
class,policies etc etc using rsync and it works a  treat.

6.5 am yet to investigate the possibilities, if any.

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I know I have seem some people mention it and wondered if there was any
doc on the issue.

I have my prod site and my DR site.
Each has its own master.

If I set up an lpar ( for you no aix/unix people that is a virtual aix
server) that has the same name as my prod site master - but is turned
off, set up in my DR site.

Set up a san volume group on another server and rdist the volume from my
prod server that has the catalog info on it, to this other server in DR.

Now I lose my prod.

I would export the volume group from this other server in dr.

Bring up my lpar in DR and import the volume group that has the copy of
the catalog in it.

Would this new lpar in DR work like the master in prod... meaning I
would not have to do a catalog recovery or import any tapes?

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Moving to new master

[Clooney, David]

My advice would be to migrate to a unix master.

 
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Sounds like some sort of inconsistency.

Not sure what your plan is to move to a new master - Are you using
bprecover to restore everything back to the new platform? Ideally, it's
be better to restore everything to the new hardware, using the same
OS/NetBackup revisions from the previous master.

Either that, or delete and rebuild the global database. As I said, to
me; sounds like something is out of sync.

There is a section in the NetBackup Disaster Recovery plan about using
the bprecover and restoring the catalogs. Remember, retaining the same
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Hi All,

we are planing to move our netbackup master server to newely built
Windows 2003 box

old master windows - 2000

veritas version : 5.0MP3

 

last time we tried this and when trying to configure storage devices
none of the tape drives were detected for master (all the drives are
visible from OS level)and it throwed an error, 

"could not get device configaration, cannot configure devices, see
troubleshoting guide for details (44) "

 "device discovery failed on host "

 

tpautoconf -a gives "Fatal Global Database consistancy error"

 

 

any idea what is going wrong here any tech note that i can refer in this
situation ?

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[Veritas-bu] Mutiple NICS on a Master/Media

[Clooney, David]

Hi All

 

I am trying to give some advice to one of international customers that
are trying to implement a netbackup solution on a restrained budget.

 

Kit list

1 X Master/media

1 X STK SL148 (SCSI attached)

2 X LTO

 

They will be trying to backup a couple of TB's of data throughout the
week, problem is that their network is only fast Ethernet 100mb and all
the netbackup clients reside on the same subnet as the Master/Media
server.

 

The bottleneck is obviously the 100Mb NIC on the master media server. 

 

Has anyone any advice if having multiple interfaces on your master on
the same subnet, to possibly use specific routes etc for the clients etc
? If at all possible?

 

Anyone done this before?

 

Regards

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] create mediaDB entry

[Clooney, David]

Thanks for the advice John

 

Think I would prefer to get the catalog in a sound state before going to
6.5.1. , would you agree?

 

Regards

 

 

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Sent: 04 November 2008 18:08
To: Clooney, David; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] create mediaDB entry

 

If you go all the way to NB 6.5.2 or higher (and I'd definitely
recommend not stopping there), you've got an additional optional
available for bpmedia that does not require the old servers still be
around. The work seems to happen entirely within the EMM database and is
a heck of a lot faster than moving individual tapes anyway. =) 

 

bpmedia:
  -freeze|-unfreeze|-suspend|-unsuspend -m  [-h ]
[-v]
  -movedb -m  -newserver 
[-newsvr_group ] [-oldserver ] [-v]
  -movedb -allvolumes -newserver  -oldserver  [-v]

http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/304172.htm

 

- John Nardello

 



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Hi All

 

In our step towards upgrading to 6.5.1 from 5.1 MP6 it has become
apparent that some media servers where not decommissioned correctly in
the passed causing inconsistencies between the media and image catalogs.

 

We have 2 media servers that I do no have a copy of the mediaDB file.

 

The image catalog is easy enough to manipulate and reflect an existing
media server with  bpimage however this still leaves this missing entry
in the new media servers mediaDB.

 

Does any know how I can create a new entry for the necessary media (from
the missing mediaDB's) into the existing media servers mediaDB? bpmedia
-movedb requires the old server to be up and running.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

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[Veritas-bu] create mediaDB entry

[Clooney, David]

Hi All

 

In our step towards upgrading to 6.5.1 from 5.1 MP6 it has become
apparent that some media servers where not decommissioned correctly in
the passed causing inconsistencies between the media and image catalogs.

 

We have 2 media servers that I do no have a copy of the mediaDB file.

 

The image catalog is easy enough to manipulate and reflect an existing
media server with  bpimage however this still leaves this missing entry
in the new media servers mediaDB.

 

Does any know how I can create a new entry for the necessary media (from
the missing mediaDB's) into the existing media servers mediaDB? bpmedia
-movedb requires the old server to be up and running.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

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Enterprise Storage Services

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] <16>bpauthorize main: Function connect_to_remote_server

[Clooney, David]

Much appreciated rob

 

That was right on the money

 

Regards

 

David Clooney

Enterprise Storage Services

 

From: rob worman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 03 October 2008 17:20
To: Clooney, David
Cc: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] <16>bpauthorize main: Function
connect_to_remote_server

 

David-

I bet you're running into a side effect of the fact that solaris10
wasn't actually a supported client platform until 5.1 MP2.

To get around this, I would suggest the following sequence:

1. install base 5.1GA
2. patch the base 5.1GA to 5.1MP6
3. install 5.1GA options
4. patch the 5.1GA options to 5.1MP6

HTH
rob




On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Clooney, David
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi

I have just had new solaris 10 servers handed over to me from our SA's
in order to start the process of upgrading to NBU 6.5.1.

My first step is to get NBU 5.1 MP6 onto these new masters then migrate
current 5.1 env to new servers and the finally upgrade.

I have copied all the 5.1 installations to a local directory and set 777
permissions on all however I am getting the following when trying to
install the advanced client .

Anyone encountered this issue before, it happens too when trying to add
some of the DB extension packages too..

Any help would be appreciated

Dave

**


   Installing NetBackup Advanced Client


Processing package instance  from


VERITAS NetBackup Advanced Client(sparc) 5.1,REV=2004.05.11.17.24
Copyright 1993 - 2004 VERITAS Software Corporation, All Rights Reserved.


   NetBackup is currently installed in /opt/openv/netbackup.


   There is an existing link from /usr/openv to /opt/openv.
   NetBackup Advanced Client will be installed
   in /opt/openv/netbackup/vfms.


<16>bpauthorize main: Function connect_to_remote_server(croinfspbu02)
failed: 25
cannot connect on socket

You do not have the proper authorization to perform
this task.  Please resolve and try again.
pkgadd: ERROR: request script did not complete successfully

Installation of  failed.
No changes were made to the system.

NetBackup Advanced Client installation failed.



David Clooney
Enterprise Storage Services

Internal X66059
External +44 20 8760 6059
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sesar,
Steven L.
Sent: 03 October 2008 14:34
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] HP Omniback vs Netbackup

Why not have HP come in or better yet, have them set up a lab/demo
environment up for you? Explain to them that your company has gone
through an acquisition and that you now own/manage/maintain two
infrastructures and that your goal is to consolidate down to a single
platform. My guess is that they will do whatever they can to help you to
understand why Omniback is superior to NBU. This will put you in a
better - not ideal, but better position to evaluate the HP solution in
light of your organization's requirements.

By going through this process, your recommendation, whatever it is,
should be much more credible to your management team, than it would be
otherwise.

--Steve


===

  Steven L. Sesar
  Lead Operating Systems Programmer/Analyst
  Storage Architect
  UNIX Application Services R101
  The MITRE Corporation
  202 Burlington Road - MS K101
  Bedford, MA 01730
  tel: (781) 271-7702
  fax: (781) 271-2600
  mobile: (617) 519-8933
  email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 6:19 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] HP Omniback vs Netbackup

Can you quantify this a bit?  I agree in principle, now I need to sell
where NB crushes HP like the niche product it is.

-M

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peacock
Dennis - dpeaco
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 2:15 PM
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] HP Omniback vs Netbackup

Run from Omniback.run fast and hard. Netbackup is your solution.
Shoot, I'd rather use TAR and DD rather than Omniback.

Thank You,
Dennis Peacock
EBCA
Acxiom Corporation

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of spaldam
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 3:07 PM
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] HP Omniback vs Netbackup


What little experience I've had with Omniback tells me that it's not as
fully featured as NetBackup, but that it works really well for remote
sites (one of the reason's NetBackup came up with Pure Disk - to better
compete in that area).

I'd suggest reading up as much as you can on Omniback, so you can
explain the differen

[Veritas-bu] <16>bpauthorize main: Function connect_to_remote_server

[Clooney, David]

Hi 

I have just had new solaris 10 servers handed over to me from our SA's
in order to start the process of upgrading to NBU 6.5.1.

My first step is to get NBU 5.1 MP6 onto these new masters then migrate
current 5.1 env to new servers and the finally upgrade.

I have copied all the 5.1 installations to a local directory and set 777
permissions on all however I am getting the following when trying to
install the advanced client .

Anyone encountered this issue before, it happens too when trying to add
some of the DB extension packages too..

Any help would be appreciated

Dave

**


Installing NetBackup Advanced Client


Processing package instance  from


VERITAS NetBackup Advanced Client(sparc) 5.1,REV=2004.05.11.17.24
Copyright 1993 - 2004 VERITAS Software Corporation, All Rights Reserved.


NetBackup is currently installed in /opt/openv/netbackup.


There is an existing link from /usr/openv to /opt/openv.
NetBackup Advanced Client will be installed
in /opt/openv/netbackup/vfms.


<16>bpauthorize main: Function connect_to_remote_server(croinfspbu02)
failed: 25
cannot connect on socket

You do not have the proper authorization to perform
this task.  Please resolve and try again.
pkgadd: ERROR: request script did not complete successfully

Installation of  failed.
No changes were made to the system.

NetBackup Advanced Client installation failed.


 
David Clooney
Enterprise Storage Services
 
Internal X66059
External +44 20 8760 6059
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sesar,
Steven L.
Sent: 03 October 2008 14:34
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] HP Omniback vs Netbackup

Why not have HP come in or better yet, have them set up a lab/demo
environment up for you? Explain to them that your company has gone
through an acquisition and that you now own/manage/maintain two
infrastructures and that your goal is to consolidate down to a single
platform. My guess is that they will do whatever they can to help you to
understand why Omniback is superior to NBU. This will put you in a
better - not ideal, but better position to evaluate the HP solution in
light of your organization's requirements.

By going through this process, your recommendation, whatever it is,
should be much more credible to your management team, than it would be
otherwise.

--Steve


===

   Steven L. Sesar
   Lead Operating Systems Programmer/Analyst
   Storage Architect
   UNIX Application Services R101
   The MITRE Corporation
   202 Burlington Road - MS K101
   Bedford, MA 01730
   tel: (781) 271-7702
   fax: (781) 271-2600
   mobile: (617) 519-8933
   email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

===


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 6:19 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] HP Omniback vs Netbackup

Can you quantify this a bit?  I agree in principle, now I need to sell
where NB crushes HP like the niche product it is.

-M

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peacock
Dennis - dpeaco
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 2:15 PM
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] HP Omniback vs Netbackup

Run from Omniback.run fast and hard. Netbackup is your solution.
Shoot, I'd rather use TAR and DD rather than Omniback.

Thank You,
Dennis Peacock
EBCA
Acxiom Corporation

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of spaldam
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 3:07 PM
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] HP Omniback vs Netbackup


What little experience I've had with Omniback tells me that it's not as
fully featured as NetBackup, but that it works really well for remote
sites (one of the reason's NetBackup came up with Pure Disk - to better
compete in that area).

I'd suggest reading up as much as you can on Omniback, so you can
explain the differences, and tell give them specifics about how
NetBackup is better.

Switching out a backup solutions is never a simple task either.  Believe
me, I've done it a few times.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 5.1 Catalogs

[Clooney, David]

To add

 

In most situations there will only be 1 volDB located on the master
server, then each media server will have its own copy of a mediaDB.

 

 

 

 

David Clooney

Enterprise Storage Services

 

Internal X66059

External +44 20 8760 6059

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JC
Cheney
Sent: 30 September 2008 10:11
To: pitt 71; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 5.1 Catalogs

 

In a nutshell the voldb tracks the physical tapes; where they are in the
library, associated barcode, media type, etc. The mediadb records which
tape is used for what backup, where on the tape it is, etc.

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of pitt 71
Sent: 30 September 2008 01:41
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 5.1 Catalogs

 

Hey guys

I am new to Netbackup 5.1 and have read through the SysAdmin guides and
still a little confused about the voldb and the mediadb. Can someone
break down the differences between these two catalogs and the types of
infomration each one of them holds. In addition, please send me any
detailed information on catalogs in general for Netbackup, thanks. 

Robert



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[Veritas-bu] bpdbm -consistency 2

[Clooney, David]

Hi All

 

Its been a while, was pulled out to work on some other SAN related tasks
however a NBU 6.5.1 from 5.1MP6 upgrade has fallen on my plate.

 

Quick Q, does anyone know what strings I can search for, for errors that
need fixing before upgrading if I push the 

 

Bpdm -consistency 2 , report out to a file, this catalog is huge and to
look at all of it would take me forever and a day.

 

Much appreciated

 

Hope you are all well

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] (no subject)

[Clooney, David]

Thanks

Yes we use NDMP, interesting thoughts about having one of the drives
visible to a media server, will check it out.

Dave 


 
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If the filer doesn't have any actual NetBackup software behind it (using
NDMP?), it might not be possible to label a tape in a drive (virtual or
not) that is connected to a filer.  It might be a good idea to have at
least one drive in the VTL show up on the master or another media
server, so you can do things like this.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] (no subject)

[Clooney, David]

Thanks

That's the issue, standard media servers I have no problem labelling the
volumes however the filer I seem to be having an issue.

Reason for labelling is to accurately report on VTL cache size.

Regards


 
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You don't necessarily have to do the bplabel with drives connected to
the filer, but there should be a "-h" or "-host" switch you can use to
tell bplabel which media server to perform the label on.

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[Veritas-bu] NDMP Label

[Clooney, David]

 Hi ALL

Solaris 8 Master 5.1 MP6
NetApp Filer  - FC STK L700 + drives

Does anyone know if its possible to bplabel volumes that reside in a
library that a filer has sole use of?

The library and drives are connected via FC to the filer.

Thanks 

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[Veritas-bu] ACSLS labelling

[Clooney, David]

Hi All
 
I have just implemented a SUN VTL, the issue i now encounter is that i
need to recycle old available media into the backend of the VTL.
 
I have new labels that i can label the cartridges up with externally, my
concern is the tape header information, is there a way through acsls 7.2
to now recreate the header information i.e. internal barcode?
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 5.1 MP5 - solaris 10

[Clooney, David]

 Thanks Justin

V440 server (4 CPU, 8GB, 2 x Gb network)

Regards

Dave

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On Mon, 14 Apr 2008, Clooney, David wrote:

> Hi all
>
> I have just been delivered a new Solaris 10 media server.
>
> As this is the first Solaris 10 media server in our environment, can 
> anyone point out any pitfalls that differ from solaris 8 regarding the

> installation.

None that I can think of, I remember upgrading from Solaris to 10 and
some of my older 1gbps fiber cards no longer worked, but the good thing
with Solaris 10 is many of tunables in /etc/system (for solaris 8) are
not needed with Solaris 10, what type of HW is it running on?




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[Veritas-bu] NBU 5.1 MP5 - solaris 10

[Clooney, David]

Hi all
 
I have just been delivered a new Solaris 10 media server.
 
As this is the first Solaris 10 media server in our environment, can
anyone point out any pitfalls that differ from solaris 8 regarding the
installation.
 
Regards
 
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[Veritas-bu] Instant message

[Clooney, David]

 As an immediate now world we live in.

What are the possibilities of having an instant message capability.

Personally, I know I would be able to contribute a hell of a more if
this was possible. As apposed to sending a mail when I need help.

What's everyone's thoughts, preferably over http due to the internal
networks we all reside in  when in the office.


Just a thought guys.

Dave



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Re: [Veritas-bu] Architecture advice

[Clooney, David]

Thanks Ed
 
 



From: Ed Wilts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 01 April 2008 16:16
To: Clooney, David
Cc: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Architecture advice


On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 7:45 AM, Clooney, David
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Thanks Ed
 
Very basically would you suggest the following
 
- build new master to match that of current - 5.1 MP6
- migrate to new master
- upgrade new master to 6.0 MP4



This step isn't needed.
 


- upgrade new master to 6.5.1
- blast old master and make media server



Basically, that's it.  One major change at a time so if something fails,
you can back out.   You don't really want to call Symantec and say "I
did a migration to new hardware, a new OS release, and upgraded NBU all
at the same time and now it doesn't work".

On Solaris 10, watch the tcp_fusion system parameter.  We've found that
it has to be disabled on master servers but enabled on media servers.

Log a call before you do your upgrades so they can be ready for you if
you do run into problems.


   .../Ed

-- 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Architecture advice

[Clooney, David]

Thanks Ed
 
Very basically would you suggest the following
 
- build new master to match that of current - 5.1 MP6
- migrate to new master
- upgrade new master to 6.0 MP4
- upgrade new master to 6.5.1
- blast old master and make media server
 
Thanks
 
Dave
 
 



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To: Clooney, David
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On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 5:01 AM, Clooney, David
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


  
Is it worth my while and are the implications of deploying this
new server as a media server and when we get round to upgrading to 6.0
MP4 and at a later stage promoting this new server to become master??


You can not "promote" a media server into a master server.  You'd have
to decommission the media server - and there are rules to doing this
(don't forget the media servers own the tapes!) - and then deploy it as
a master.  You could certainly do this and as part of your upgrade
project, re-image your old master server and re-deploy it as a media
server.  Just follow all the steps to do so.  Make sure the master
server does not change names during your upgrades.

You also need to be aware of the licensing implications.  Media servers
are not cheap and you would also need SSO licenses to share your tape
drives.  I don't know how the VTL licensing works these days.  That
might vote against using the new server now.

Personally, I'd start working on that new server with the intention of
making it the master.  That gives you a lot more flexibility for a
rollback when you do the upgrade - bring up NetBackup on the new server,
and if it has issues, you can go back.  If you've already wiped it as a
media server, you've got a significantly more complicated rollback since
now you're down a media server as well.


-- 
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[Veritas-bu] Architecture advice

[Clooney, David]

Hi ALL
 
I was wondering whether i could pick some of your brains.
 
Master/Media Solaris 8 - 5.1 MP6
 
I have recently implemented a SUN/FalconSTor VTL into an Netbackup
environment I look after, previously in the physical world there where
18 X 9940B drives shared by the Solaris master/media, a windows media
server and a cluster windows media server.
 
When i picked up the environment there where numerous 196's
understandably, by implementing the VTL and considerably being able to
present devices the problem now lies with the master/media server not
being able to cope.
 
At busy periods now there are a number of backups that fall over with
25's (can't connect on socket), now this master/media only has 1 gigabit
Ethernet interface and all backups it is responsible for are over ip.
The windows media servers are responsible for all our SAN backups.
 
My assumption is  that these 25 errors are due to either the gigabit
card being swamped (quite possible) or the tcp stack on the box being
overloaded.
 
Way forward
 
The move to 6.0(MP4) and then 6.5.1 is imminent starting around then end
of Q2, with this i have the approval for a chunkier Solaris 10
Master/media.
 
The new server is pretty much available immediately so my question is:
 
Is it worth my while and are the implications of deploying this new
server as a media server and when we get round to upgrading to 6.0 MP4
and at a later stage promoting this new server to become master??
 
Thanks in advance
 
Dave Clooney
 



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Re: [Veritas-bu] drive usage report

[Clooney, David]

Jared
 
could you possibly send the link again, doesn't seem to work for me.
would be quite interested in this.
 
Thanks
 
Dave



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You might want to check out this, it was posted here about 3 months ago
(drive utilization script): 



http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/pipermail/veritas-bu/2007-November/045714.
html 





Jared M. Seaton
Recovery Administrator
Mylan Inc.
304-554-5926
304-685-1389 (Cell)




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Just got a handfull of 196's on last nite's incrementals. 
  
Looks like a few new file systems on a unix machine pushed two clients
out past the window. 
Nb 5.1 mp4 --  solaris 9 master --  windows and solaris clients. 
  
But where all 5 tape drives busy? 
  
I wondering how to get a report to determine if there was more time
available that was not being used. 
  
  
  

Scott Deiter
System Administrator
Hanover Direct, Inc.
Hanover, PA
Voice: 717-633-3298
Fax: 717-633-3101 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] VolDB odd behavior

[Clooney, David]

 Bob

Where are you issuing the command from? Personally I would run from the master 
and use the -h switch, reason for this each media server keeps a separate copy 
of its on media DB. So you would need to specify which host to expire the 
media. Pre NBU 6 of course.

The other option is that it could have be deassigned somehow from the volDB 
however still have a copy in the media servers mediaDB.

Regards

Dave

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Can you see the media from the GUI (at the media section)?
If no, you have to recreate the voldb. Email me to send you info.

If yes, are you running the commands form a media server? 
If yes, run them with the -M master_server option or run them form the master 
server

stefanos

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Hi all,

I'm having trouble with the VolDB on one of my media servers and wonder if 
there's a solution.  I am getting the following errors when trying to expire 
media...

  bash-3.00# bpexpdate -m 0081L2 -d 0
Are you SURE you want to delete 0081L2 y/n (n)? y could not deassign media due 
to Media Manager error bash-3.00# vmquery -m 0081L2 Could not query by media ID 
0081L2: volume does not exist in database (35)

Is there a documented process for recreating the VolDB?

Thanks in advance.

Bob

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Whats Best Practice for SSO in NBU 5.1

[Clooney, David]

remember its a soft SCSI release and not a hardware release.



From: Clooney, David 
Sent: 31 January 2008 10:13
To: 'WEAVER, Simon (external)'; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Whats Best Practice for SSO in NBU 5.1


vmoprcmd -crawlreleasebyname  



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Simon (external)
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Whats Best Practice for SSO in NBU 5.1


All
I have 18 large Media Servers, all Win2k3, single TL with SSO and 12
drives. I tend to sort out most problems without bringing the whole lot
down.
 
When I do maintenance on the library, I shutdown all of the NBU Services
first, then power down the library.
 
Once the library is up, I then re-run device manager to scan for new
hardware, and the drives and library come into play on each Media
Server. In most cases this can be done remotely. Once the server
sees the library, start the Master and then media servers and check
drive status. In almost all cases, everything has come up fine. Yes a
little pain, but its done in such an Art, it rarely takes that long to
do this task.
 
The one issue I had a problem with involved performing a scsi reset
while NetBackup was idle due to a drive in a complete mixed state that
could not recover from manually. (cant find the technote, but its a scsi
release command to be done on all affected drive(s)).
 
Apart from this, its mostly trouble free. If its working, I leave things
well alone. The environment is 5.1 and soon to be moved to 6.x and if
6.x is as better than 5.1, then I look forward to this upgrade to make
Admin Life easier. I agree, getting the right hardware and configuration
in place is a must.
 
S.



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I agree with Randy, I've had a lot of issues with the Media/SAN Media
Windows servers. I would recommend that if you are pre 6.x, examine your
backup requirements for each server and use teaming (I have also
experienced problems with these) or Gig NICs when you can. Not only will
this solution save you money, but it will also save you administration
headache, regardless of Media server platform, when you do run into
problems.
 
-Rusty



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Samora
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NetBackup doesn't "get it" until version 6.  I am 100% windows here with
a mixture of 19 Media and SAN Media servers sharing a library with 24
drives.  First, stabilize it.  Zone your library and make sure that the
only servers that can even see the library are servers that you want to
see the library.  Check HBA settings and disable removable storage
service.  Until you have the communication paths really stable between
servers and drives, the problems won't ever cease.  But once you have it
stable, it typically will stay that way.

 

However, in version 5.1, whenever I had to do any type of maintenance on
my library causing it to lose connection to NetBackup servers, I had to
reboot all of my NetBackup servers before I could get NetBackup to see
the library again.  My SAN Media servers are high profile servers and
rebooting them periodically wasn't a popular activity with our
customers.  Microsoft said it wasn't Windows, Symantec said it wasn't
NetBackup and I could never get a straight answer.  But 6.0 doesn't have
that problem.  I can reboot the library all day long and as soon as it
is back on line, NetBackup is back on line.

 

Thanks,

Randy

 

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but would you implement such a large sso environment with Windows
servers?  we've shared 20,30,40 drives across many windows servers and
it becomes hell whenever drives go offline and/or is replaced and then
shuffles in the os.  we've used persistent binding but this doesn't help
with vtl drives.  but sometimes, netbackup just doesn't get it.

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Whats Best Practice for SSO in NBU 5.1

[Clooney, David]

vmoprcmd -crawlreleasebyname  



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Sent: 30 January 2008 16:54
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Whats Best Practice for SSO in NBU 5.1


All
I have 18 large Media Servers, all Win2k3, single TL with SSO and 12
drives. I tend to sort out most problems without bringing the whole lot
down.
 
When I do maintenance on the library, I shutdown all of the NBU Services
first, then power down the library.
 
Once the library is up, I then re-run device manager to scan for new
hardware, and the drives and library come into play on each Media
Server. In most cases this can be done remotely. Once the server
sees the library, start the Master and then media servers and check
drive status. In almost all cases, everything has come up fine. Yes a
little pain, but its done in such an Art, it rarely takes that long to
do this task.
 
The one issue I had a problem with involved performing a scsi reset
while NetBackup was idle due to a drive in a complete mixed state that
could not recover from manually. (cant find the technote, but its a scsi
release command to be done on all affected drive(s)).
 
Apart from this, its mostly trouble free. If its working, I leave things
well alone. The environment is 5.1 and soon to be moved to 6.x and if
6.x is as better than 5.1, then I look forward to this upgrade to make
Admin Life easier. I agree, getting the right hardware and configuration
in place is a must.
 
S.



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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 4:23 PM
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Whats Best Practice for SSO in NBU 5.1


I agree with Randy, I've had a lot of issues with the Media/SAN Media
Windows servers. I would recommend that if you are pre 6.x, examine your
backup requirements for each server and use teaming (I have also
experienced problems with these) or Gig NICs when you can. Not only will
this solution save you money, but it will also save you administration
headache, regardless of Media server platform, when you do run into
problems.
 
-Rusty



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Samora
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Whats Best Practice for SSO in NBU 5.1



NetBackup doesn't "get it" until version 6.  I am 100% windows here with
a mixture of 19 Media and SAN Media servers sharing a library with 24
drives.  First, stabilize it.  Zone your library and make sure that the
only servers that can even see the library are servers that you want to
see the library.  Check HBA settings and disable removable storage
service.  Until you have the communication paths really stable between
servers and drives, the problems won't ever cease.  But once you have it
stable, it typically will stay that way.

 

However, in version 5.1, whenever I had to do any type of maintenance on
my library causing it to lose connection to NetBackup servers, I had to
reboot all of my NetBackup servers before I could get NetBackup to see
the library again.  My SAN Media servers are high profile servers and
rebooting them periodically wasn't a popular activity with our
customers.  Microsoft said it wasn't Windows, Symantec said it wasn't
NetBackup and I could never get a straight answer.  But 6.0 doesn't have
that problem.  I can reboot the library all day long and as soon as it
is back on line, NetBackup is back on line.

 

Thanks,

Randy

 

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but would you implement such a large sso environment with Windows
servers?  we've shared 20,30,40 drives across many windows servers and
it becomes hell whenever drives go offline and/or is replaced and then
shuffles in the os.  we've used persistent binding but this doesn't help
with vtl drives.  but sometimes, netbackup just doesn't get it.

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Urgent Help

[Clooney, David]

Thanks Everyone for a rapid response.
 
Turns out 6 characters is my max, I have blown the VTL away and created
new with 6 characters.
 
Regards
 
Dave
 
 



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Sent: 29 January 2008 18:29
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Urgent Help


NetBackup 5.X will ONLY use 6 Characters in the bar code.
 
You can pick the 6 to use by the method below, but it will only use 6.
 



Bobby Williams 
2205 Peterson Drive 
Chattanooga, Tennessee  37421 
423-296-8200 

 



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You need to modify vm.conf with:
 
MEDIA_ID_BARCODE_CHARS 0 8 1:2:3:4:5:6
 
I believe that will do what you need to do...
 
~Kate



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David
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Hi All
 
In the middle of implementing a VTL, have just inventoried and the first
2 characters of the  virtual media barcode.
 
This rings a bell, but dont have the time to hunt around for the
solution.
 
Does anyone know off the top of their head what i can do to support
barcodes in length of +6.
 
5.1 MP6 solaris.
 
Is there a vm.conf entry i can add or something.
 
Thanks a mil in advance
 
Dave





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Re: [Veritas-bu] Urgent Help

[Clooney, David]

In the middle of implementing a VAL, have just inventoried and the first
2 characters of the  virtual media barcode have been removed.



From: Clooney, David 
Sent: 29 January 2008 17:00
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Hi All
 
In the middle of implementing a VTL, have just inventoried and the first
2 characters of the  virtual media barcode.
 
This rings a bell, but dont have the time to hunt around for the
solution.
 
Does anyone know off the top of their head what i can do to support
barcodes in length of +6.
 
5.1 MP6 solaris.
 
Is there a vm.conf entry i can add or something.
 
Thanks a mil in advance
 
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[Veritas-bu] Urgent Help

[Clooney, David]

Hi All
 
In the middle of implementing a VTL, have just inventoried and the first
2 characters of the  virtual media barcode.
 
This rings a bell, but dont have the time to hunt around for the
solution.
 
Does anyone know off the top of their head what i can do to support
barcodes in length of +6.
 
5.1 MP6 solaris.
 
Is there a vm.conf entry i can add or something.
 
Thanks a mil in advance
 
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[Veritas-bu] Java restriction

[Clooney, David]

Hi All
 
Solaris 8 5.1 MP6
 
Does anyone know if I can restrict specific hosts when connecting with
the Java GUI.
 
I.e I want a handful of machines to be able to connect to the master via
the java gui and not any machine that has app installed?
 
Thanks
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Calculate perfomance

[Clooney, David]

Another option would be to analyse the bptm logs on the media server
doing the writing to ascertain whether you are supply enough or too
little data.
 
Dave




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This applies to 5.1 and below.
The jobs information is not always accurate as it is providing duration
time and backup size.
If you are using unix media servers the most accurate way is using
iostat.
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Host Name Change on Master Server

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Personally I think the 5.1 master hostname change is a walk in the park.

 
After I had planned and tested the change, we did however have Symantec
PS on site looking over my shoulder in order for it to be supported.
Money spinner if you ask me as all the work was performed by myself.
Easy day out for the PS fella.
 
Dave



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Although its unsupported, depending on the version of NBU you are
running, there may still be an alternative.
 
Im not sure if Symantec Still provide their services to do this, but I
do recall for 3.4 and 4.5 a method of performing such a task.
 
Google is a friend.. If I find it, will post it on to you.
 
Planning in the KEY to the implementation of NetBackup, therefore its
best where possible to keep things as they are :-)
 
 

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)
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This is not supported in any current release of NetBackup.
Customers have asked for many years but it hasn't made it to the of the
priority list yet.

   .../Ed


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We are looking to change the name of our Master server
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made so that the catalog and everything else works after this change has
been made? Please be as detailed as possible, thanks in advance. 

 

Daniel Jimenez 
Data Protection Team 





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[Veritas-bu] VXSS upgrade before NBU 6.0/6.5

[Clooney, David]

Hi ALl
 
solaris 5.1 MP6 platform, has anyone gone through the required process
of upgrading VXSS prior to embarking on the NBU 6.0/6.5 upgrade.
 
If so any info would be appreciated
 
Regards
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Host Name Change on Master Server

[Clooney, David]

Daniel
 
What version of netbackup? I have pefromed this operation sucessfully on
5.1 MP6
 
Regards
 
Dave



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Hey guys

 

We are looking to change the name of our Master server (Windows 2003
Server) and would like to know what changes need to be made so that the
catalog and everything else works after this change has been made?
Please be as detailed as possible, thanks in advance. 

 

Daniel Jimenez 
Data Protection Team 



 




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Re: [Veritas-bu] Upgrade 5.1 MP6 to 6.5

[Clooney, David]

Top man Rusty

 



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Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Upgrade 5.1 MP6 to 6.5

 

I also was a little confused by this, but as long as the NetBackup
install itself is not clustered on any of the servers, then this does
not apply to you.

 

-Rusty

 



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Hi All

 

I am imminently upgrading a Solaris 8 master server from 5.1 MP6 to 6.5
in preparation for the rest of our environments

 

I have been reading through all the documentation and there are a lot of
references to clustered environments, now I am taking that the
documentation id referring to the master server being clustered.

 

Environment

1 X Master - Solaris 8 - standalone

2 X Media -  windows 2003 - standalone

2 X Media -  windows 2003  - Microsoft clustered.

 

I have checked all vm.conf's across all and made sure there are no
REQUIRED_INTERFACE or MM_SERVER_NAME entries of which there are none.

 

Even though two of the media servers are clustered, can I proceed as
normal as I am just upgrading the master server.

 

If someone could clarify this for me it would be much appreciated

 

Regards

 

Dave

 

 

 

 

 



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[Veritas-bu] Upgrade 5.1 MP6 to 6.5

[Clooney, David]

Hi All

 

I am imminently upgrading a Solaris 8 master server from 5.1 MP6 to 6.5
in preparation for the rest of our environments

 

I have been reading through all the documentation and there are a lot of
references to clustered environments, now I am taking that the
documentation id referring to the master server being clustered.

 

Environment

1 X Master - Solaris 8 - standalone

2 X Media -  windows 2003 - standalone

2 X Media -  windows 2003  - Microsoft clustered.

 

I have checked all vm.conf's across all and made sure there are no
REQUIRED_INTERFACE or MM_SERVER_NAME entries of which there are none.

 

Even though two of the media servers are clustered, can I proceed as
normal as I am just upgrading the master server.

 

If someone could clarify this for me it would be much appreciated

 

Regards

 

Dave

 

 

 

 




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Re: [Veritas-bu] Restore problems: Error bptm (pid=14834) unable to write bpbrm message

[Clooney, David]

Justin

Maybe tail your bpbrm log for more info whilst its happening.

dave

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unable to write bpbrm message



On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Justin Piszcz wrote:

> 11/13/2007 15:33:28 - Error bptm (pid=14834) unable to write bpbrm
message, 
> connection dropped or not connected (errno = Broken pipe)
>
> 11/13/2007 15:33:28 - Error bptm (pid=14834) unable to write bpbrm
message, 
> connection dropped or not connected (errno = Broken pipe)
>
> Anyone ever get these when trying to restore to a Windows host? Its
one 
> particular Windows host that is having the problem, we even upgraded
it to 
> 5.1MP6 and rebooted, same problem after reboot, has anyone seen this?
>
> Justin.
>

By the way I can restore the data without any problems to another
Windows 
server.

Clues?

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing up NetBackup on Solaris

[Clooney, David]

Make sure you know what you're doing,

You'll most probably find /usr/openv is in fact /opt/openv/.

Other than that though I have performed numerous upgrades 5.1 X and my
back out plan has always been an archive of /opt/openv

Dave
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Hello.

I'd like to upgrade an installation of NBU 5.1 to 6.5. As I'd
like to change quite a bit in the way the system is setup, I'm
actually rather planning a new installation of 6.5, after having
de-installed 5.1.

But to do that, and to have an easy fallback, I'd like to backup
the NBU 5.1 installation on the system (eg. to a tar file). What
do I need to backup, to be able to do an easy rollback? Is it
sufficient, when I backup the following:

- /usr/openv
- /opt/openv
- /etc/*.d/*netbackup   (init scripts)

Do I need anything else?

Thanks,

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[Veritas-bu] Master Server Merger

[Clooney, David]

Hi All

 

Was wondering whether I could pick some brains.

 

I am starting to plan the upgrade of NBU from 5.1 MP6 to NBU 6.5.

 

We have three NBU domains with a Master server(Solaris 8 64 bit) in
each.

 

Additionally we are planning for the installation of SUN/Falconstor
VTL's per domain for Q1/Q2 next year.

 

Now, as I understand it is that if I have three separate NBU domains,
any duplication between the VTL's NBU will not know about this, makes
sense due to three catalogs.

 

So I'm am looking into the merging of all 3 domains into 1 before the
move to 6.5 , I have in the past migrated a master server to new
hardware with a new name with success so understand the intricacies of
the NBU 5.1 X platform but was wondering whether anyone could add some
additional thoughts, pitfalls etc.

 

>From an administration point of view one domain would be ideal.

 

Thanks in advance

 

Dave

 




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[Veritas-bu] Windows MP install HELP

[Clooney, David]

Hi All

 

Not so hot on windows and need some help.

 

Trying to install 5.1 MP6 on a windows 2003 client,  currently at 5.1
MP4.

 

When I launch the installer I don't get the option to "install to this
client only" and it only gives me the  network option.

 

I have tested on my work station and no probs

 

Any ideas?

 

Thanks

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 5.x to 6 upgrade guide.pdf

[Clooney, David]

Thanks for the rapid response all

 

Dave



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Hi all

 

Someone sent me the NBU 5.x to 6 upgrade guide.pdf 

 

document a while back however I have deleted it by mistake due to
mailbox limits.

 

And yes, I should be shot for not backing up a copy :-)

 

If that someone could forward it again it would be much appreciated

 

Thanks

 

Dave

 

 



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[Veritas-bu] NBU 5.x to 6 upgrade guide.pdf

[Clooney, David]

Hi all

 

Someone sent me the NBU 5.x to 6 upgrade guide.pdf 

 

document a while back however I have deleted it by mistake due to
mailbox limits.

 

And yes, I should be shot for not backing up a copy :-)

 

If that someone could forward it again it would be much appreciated

 

Thanks

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup exit notify

[Clooney, David]

Thanks Carl

 

Yep I understand all this, and the below is when incorporated into one
of the exit notify scripts, however I am not utiliding any of these.

 

If you turn on the SERVER to send mail on all clients, somewhere in the
NBU binaries mails are being sent.

 

Have just learned that from the library /opt/openv/lib/libVbp.so the
"mail" program is being used so will endeavour to check the servers
mail.cr to possibly masquerade.

 

Dave

 



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Sent: 28 September 2007 16:26
To: Clooney, David
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Backup exit notify

 


Here is what I did. I added the sendmail call in my script and have the
script "su" to the allowed user before calling sendmail. 
Something like this: 
su $EMAILUSER -c "cat $RPT_DESTN_DIR/some_report.txt|/usr/lib/sendmail
-f $SENDER_EMAIL -t $RECIPIENT_LIST  " 

Notice that sendmail had the -f parameter, this changed the from and
$SENDER_EMAIL could be your [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
$EMAILUSER is the non-root user that has a valid account on the system.
$RECIPIENT_LIST is the e-mail addresses to send the message to. 

Hope this helps 



=
Carl Stehman
IT Distributed Services Team
Pepco Holdings, Inc.
202-331-6619
Pager 301-765-2703
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



"Clooney, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

09/28/2007 10:52 AM 

To

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cc

veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Subject

RE: [Veritas-bu] Backup exit notify

 

 

 




Thanks everyone 
  
Just did a bit of digging around as I am quite aware of the exit notify
scripts and have now totally bypassed them i.e 
  
I have removed all notify scripts from the bin directory. 
  
Settings on the CLIENT 
  
USEMAIL = [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
SERVER_SENDS_MAIL = YES 
  
Upon the completion of a backup I still get a confirmation email from
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 
  
I am convinced this is incorporated into a binary somewhere and as NBU
runs as root when the mail is sent it picks up the user, this I need to
change somehow 
  
Am I going mad ? 
  
Dave 
  

 




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To: Clooney, David
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu;
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup exit notify 
  

We set up a special account that is allowed to send e-mail from the
server being backed up, and "su"-ed to that user before calling
sendmail. 

=
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IT Distributed Services Team
Pepco Holdings, Inc.
202-331-6619
Pager 301-765-2703
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

"Clooney, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

09/28/2007 04:28 AM 

 

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Subject

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All 
 
Solaris 8 
 
Does anyone know how to change the senders address when backup notify is
executed on the master server? 
 
i.e. at the moment we get [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
 
Need to change it to adhere to policy 
 
 
Thanks 
 
Dave 
  

  


  





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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup exit notify

[Clooney, David]

Thanks everyone

 

Just did a bit of digging around as I am quite aware of the exit notify
scripts and have now totally bypassed them i.e

 

I have removed all notify scripts from the bin directory.

 

Settings on the CLIENT 

 

USEMAIL = [EMAIL PROTECTED]

SERVER_SENDS_MAIL = YES

 

Upon the completion of a backup I still get a confirmation email from
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

I am convinced this is incorporated into a binary somewhere and as NBU
runs as root when the mail is sent it picks up the user, this I need to
change somehow

 

Am I going mad ?

 

Dave

 



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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup exit notify

 


We set up a special account that is allowed to send e-mail from the
server being backed up, and "su"-ed to that user before calling
sendmail. 

=
Carl Stehman
IT Distributed Services Team
Pepco Holdings, Inc.
202-331-6619
Pager 301-765-2703
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



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All 
  
Solaris 8 
  
Does anyone know how to change the senders address when backup notify is
executed on the master server? 
  
i.e. at the moment we get [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
  
Need to change it to adhere to policy 
  
  
Thanks 
  
Dave 
  

 

 




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[Veritas-bu] Backup exit notify

[Clooney, David]

All

 

Solaris 8

 

Does anyone know how to change the senders address when backup notify is
executed on the master server?

 

i.e. at the moment we get [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

Need to change it to adhere to policy 

 

 

Thanks

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Script to see skipped files

[Clooney, David]

If unix

 

bperror -backstat -hoursago 24 -U | grep "^  1" | awk '{print $2'} |
sort -u | while read CLIENT; 

do bperror -problems -hoursago 24 -client $CLIENT -columns 200 -U; 

done

 

 

Dave



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David
Sent: 13 September 2007 14:03
To: Martin, Jonathan; Lawler, Michael C.;
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Script to see skipped files

 

Windows or Unix env ?

 

Dave

 



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Jonathan
Sent: 13 September 2007 13:56
To: Lawler, Michael C.; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Script to see skipped files

 

I just ran a quick test.  Copy and paste from the report to a txt file.
Open it with Excel, delimited type by tab and : (colon.)  Sort by column
K and delete every row that doesn't start with WRN - Can't open file.  I
don't know that you are a windows shop, but you could easily parse this
information with grep, awk and/or perl.

 

I just don't know how to get this data out of Netbackup without using
the GUI for the problems report.

 

-Jonathan

 



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Michael C.
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Script to see skipped files

I've worked with that a bit, but I'm having the same issue as you,
trouble parseing it down into something readable.  There are a couple of
reporting tools out there that will give it to me, but the cost they are
charging is just a bit to much to make it worth it...one would have
though that NOM would have included a report of this nature, but I guess
that was just to much to ask from a reporting and management tool  :P

 

 

- Michael Lawler

 



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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:27 AM
To: Lawler, Michael C.; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Script to see skipped files

 

In the Windows gui you can run a general problems report and parse that
for them.  I'm not sure how to parse this information from the command
line.  Perhaps its in  log file somewhere?  Probably on the client.
Anyhow Reports --> Problems.

 

-Jonathan

 



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Michael C.
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:11 AM
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Script to see skipped files

Does anyone out there have a script to allow NBU to send you the list of
skipped files for a status 1 job?  Or know of a way to get NOM to report
these without having to go through each job one by one to track them
down...I'm spending way to much time each day hunting these little
buggers down trying to clean them up!

 

 

Michael Lawler

Systems Administrator, I

  <http://www.cooperstandard.com/> 

+ Address: 207 South West Street, Auburn, IN 46706
* E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Phone: 260.927.3477
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Script to see skipped files

[Clooney, David]

Windows or Unix env ?

 

Dave

 



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Jonathan
Sent: 13 September 2007 13:56
To: Lawler, Michael C.; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Script to see skipped files

 

I just ran a quick test.  Copy and paste from the report to a txt file.
Open it with Excel, delimited type by tab and : (colon.)  Sort by column
K and delete every row that doesn't start with WRN - Can't open file.  I
don't know that you are a windows shop, but you could easily parse this
information with grep, awk and/or perl.

 

I just don't know how to get this data out of Netbackup without using
the GUI for the problems report.

 

-Jonathan

 



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Michael C.
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:31 AM
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Script to see skipped files

I've worked with that a bit, but I'm having the same issue as you,
trouble parseing it down into something readable.  There are a couple of
reporting tools out there that will give it to me, but the cost they are
charging is just a bit to much to make it worth it...one would have
though that NOM would have included a report of this nature, but I guess
that was just to much to ask from a reporting and management tool  :P

 

 

- Michael Lawler

 



From: Martin, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:27 AM
To: Lawler, Michael C.; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Script to see skipped files

 

In the Windows gui you can run a general problems report and parse that
for them.  I'm not sure how to parse this information from the command
line.  Perhaps its in  log file somewhere?  Probably on the client.
Anyhow Reports --> Problems.

 

-Jonathan

 



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Michael C.
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:11 AM
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Script to see skipped files

Does anyone out there have a script to allow NBU to send you the list of
skipped files for a status 1 job?  Or know of a way to get NOM to report
these without having to go through each job one by one to track them
down...I'm spending way to much time each day hunting these little
buggers down trying to clean them up!

 

 

Michael Lawler

Systems Administrator, I

   

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* Phone: 260.927.3477
* Fax: 260.927.1348

 




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[Veritas-bu] VMD Core Dump

[Clooney, David]

Morning all

 

5.1 MP5

 

This morning we had vmd core dump, which in turn filled up the root file
system. It was easy enough to get everything back to working order
however we would one begin to investigate why this happened.

 

I have checked all the obvious suspects . i.e bperror problems,
var/adm/messages etc, but haven't found much in any clues ?

 

Anyone got any suggestions?

 

Thanks

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] MPX Explanation

[Clooney, David]

Thanks Bobby

 

That seems to make sense now 

 

i.e. "The I/O to tape has a buffer.  The data does not go directly to
the tape"

 

Saying this, then should be no gaps as presumed before as illustrated
below ?

 

- - - -  - - - - -  - - - - - - - - -  -  

 S1 15mb ###

 - - - - - - -  - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - - -  - - - - -  - - - - - -

 S2 15mb

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -  - - - - -  - - - - - -

 S3 15mb

- - - - - - - - - - -  - - - -- - - - - - - - -  - - - - -  - - - - - -

S4 10mb      

- - - - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - - -  - - - - -  - - - - - - - - -

 

Regards

 

Dave

 

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From: Bobby Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 06 September 2007 13:25
To: 'Kevin Whittaker'; Clooney, David; 'Justin Piszcz'
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] MPX Explanation

 

When the buffer is full, then buffer empties to the tape.

 

It works the same no matter how many MPX streams you have (even 1
stream).

 

The I/O to tape has a buffer.  The data does not go directly to the
tape.

 

The OS or the application can set the number and size of the buffers.

 

When a buffer is full, it goes to tape.  The last buffer is emptied when
the

I/O driver closes the process. 

 

 

 

 

Bobby Williams

2205 Peterson Drive

Chattanooga, Tennessee  37421

423-296-8200

 

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Whittaker

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] MPX Explanation

 

Should have been more clear.  I mean till the buffer is full and it is
ready

to write it to the tape. 

 

-Original Message-

From: Clooney, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 7:59 AM

To: Kevin Whittaker; Justin Piszcz

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Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] MPX Explanation

 

Thanks Kev

 

Ready for what exactly ?

 

Dave

 

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From: Kevin Whittaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: 06 September 2007 12:57

To: Justin Piszcz; Clooney, David

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Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] MPX Explanation

 

I would agree, that is what I have seen happen.  If one stream lags
behind

it just skips putting it on the drive until it is ready. 

 

-Original Message-

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Justin

Piszcz

Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 7:19 AM

To: Clooney, David

Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu

Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] MPX Explanation

 

 

 

On Thu, 6 Sep 2007, Clooney, David wrote:

 

> Hi All

> 

> 

> 

> Is there any chance someone could clarify MPX for me.

> 

> 

> 

> If you have MPX set to 4 for example and there are 4 streams hitting 

> the drive. All 4 streams are writing in parallel as the tape spins.

> And if 3 streams are writing at 15mb/sec and 1 stream is writing at 

> 10mb/sec, would the slower of the streams be a bottle neck for the 

> other 3. My lack of the tape technology is most probably to blame, I 

> am thinking of each stream the way fragments work on a tape , finish 1

 

> start the next , please tell me this is not the same on each stream.

> 

 

That is a good question, but I don't think so(?) I think the 3 streams a

15MB/s continue to truck along and the 10MB/s stream writes at 10MB/s
but

its more stretched out, example:

 

15MB/s stream:

# # # # # # # # # # # # # # # #

 

10MB/s stream:

#   #   #   #   #   #   #   #   #

 

Justin.

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] MPX Explanation

[Clooney, David]

Thanks Kev

Ready for what exactly ?

Dave

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Sent: 06 September 2007 12:57
To: Justin Piszcz; Clooney, David
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Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] MPX Explanation

I would agree, that is what I have seen happen.  If one stream lags
behind it just skips putting it on the drive until it is ready. 

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On Thu, 6 Sep 2007, Clooney, David wrote:

> Hi All
>
>
>
> Is there any chance someone could clarify MPX for me.
>
>
>
> If you have MPX set to 4 for example and there are 4 streams hitting 
> the drive. All 4 streams are writing in parallel as the tape spins. 
> And if 3 streams are writing at 15mb/sec and 1 stream is writing at 
> 10mb/sec, would the slower of the streams be a bottle neck for the 
> other 3. My lack of the tape technology is most probably to blame, I 
> am thinking of each stream the way fragments work on a tape , finish 1

> start the next , please tell me this is not the same on each stream.
>

That is a good question, but I don't think so(?) I think the 3 streams a
15MB/s continue to truck along and the 10MB/s stream writes at 10MB/s
but its more stretched out, example:

15MB/s stream:
# # # # # # # # # # # # # # # #

10MB/s stream:
#   #   #   #   #   #   #   #   #

Justin.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] MPX Explanation

[Clooney, David]

Makes sense Bobby

So in this scenario you have 4 separate bptm write processors on the
media server, each filling their buffer at different rates.

>From the tapes end however  

  - - - - - - - - -  - - - - -  - - - - - - - - -  - - - - -  - - - - -
- - - -  - - - - -  - - - - - - - - -  -   S1 15mb
##
 - - - - - - -  - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - - -  - - - - -  - - - - - -
- - -  - - - - -  - - - - - - - - -  - 
 S2 15mb##
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -  - - - - -  - - - - - -
- - -  - - - - -  - - - - - - - - -  - - 
 S3 15mb##
- - - - - - - - - - -  - - - -- - - - - - - - -  - - - - -  - - - - - -
- - -  - - - - -  - - - - - - - - -  - - 
S4 10mb       #
###
- - - - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - - -  - - - - -  - - - - - - - - -
- - - - -  - - - - - - - - -  - - - - -  

If S4 doesn't hold back the others, what is filling the gaps in the S4
stream as illustrated above ?

Dave

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From: Bobby Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 06 September 2007 12:43
To: 'Justin Piszcz'; Clooney, David
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] MPX Explanation

All streams have a buffer associated with them (SIZE_DATA_BUFFERS and
NUMBER_DATA_BUFFERS).

The streams fill the buffers.  When a buffer is full, it goes to tape.  

Watch your bptm logs and it will show you how long it takes to fill the
buffer (waited for full buffer). 

If you look at the requirements for determining the BUFFERS size, you
will
see MPX in the formula.

The slower clients fill the buffers at a slower rate.

The higher the number of MPX, the longer it takes to check/empty the
buffers.




Bobby Williams
2205 Peterson Drive
Chattanooga, Tennessee  37421
423-296-8200

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] MPX Explanation



On Thu, 6 Sep 2007, Clooney, David wrote:

> Hi All
>
>
>
> Is there any chance someone could clarify MPX for me.
>
>
>
> If you have MPX set to 4 for example and there are 4 streams hitting 
> the drive. All 4 streams are writing in parallel as the tape spins. 
> And if 3 streams are writing at 15mb/sec and 1 stream is writing at 
> 10mb/sec, would the slower of the streams be a bottle neck for the 
> other 3. My lack of the tape technology is most probably to blame, I 
> am thinking of each stream the way fragments work on a tape , finish 1

> start the next , please tell me this is not the same on each stream.
>

That is a good question, but I don't think so(?) I think the 3 streams a
15MB/s continue to truck along and the 10MB/s stream writes at 10MB/s
but
its more stretched out, example:

15MB/s stream:
# # # # # # # # # # # # # # # #

10MB/s stream:
#   #   #   #   #   #   #   #   #

Justin.

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[Veritas-bu] MPX Explanation

[Clooney, David]

Hi All

 

Is there any chance someone could clarify MPX for me.

 

If you have MPX set to 4 for example and there are 4 streams hitting the
drive. All 4 streams are writing in parallel as the tape spins. And if 3
streams are writing at 15mb/sec and 1 stream is writing at 10mb/sec,
would the slower of the streams be a bottle neck for the other 3. My
lack of the tape technology is most probably to blame, I am thinking of
each stream the way fragments work on a tape , finish 1 start the next ,
please tell me this is not the same on each stream.

 

My thinking is that

 

  - - - - - - - - -  - - - - -  

   S1 15mb

 - - - - - - -  - - - - - - - -

  S2 15mb

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 

 S3 15mb 

- - - - - - - - - - -  - - -

S4 10mb 

- - - - - - - - - - - - 

 

S4 will hold up the others ?

 

 

Thanks

 

Dave

 

 

 

 




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Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 6.5 VTL direct to tape

[Clooney, David]

Nice post Curtis

We are currently purchasing 2 sun VTL3540's and 1 Sun VTL2540.

After reading below could you clarify for me, is there no way that the
vtl's can duplicate between each other(disk) and still somehow create
NBU catalog entries. i.e duplicating outside of NBU but still createing
NBU catalog entries ?

Thanks


Dave

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 6.5 VTL direct to tape

Confusion, confusion...  I just got off the phone with the Symantec
product managers and here's the scoop.  There are two different options
in 6.5 that are in this area.

First, neither of these options should be confused with the current way
that integrated VTLs copy virtual tapes to physical tapes, which is the
barcoding-matching method that was discussed in other posts.  These
options are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

Option 1: OpenStorage API

Symantec working with "Intelligent Disk Targets" (their term for disk
targets that have a file system interface and do cool stuff like
de-dupe).  The idea is for the IDTs to code to this API.  Once they've
done that, Symantec will do a whole bunch of cool stuff via this API
that they can't do via a VTL interface.  This will include the things
that are available via the Advanced Disk Storage Unit in 6.5, and will
also include other things like optimized de-duplication, direct to tape
copy, etc.  (I don't think the direct to tape copy is currently in the
code.  That's a future.)

AS OF TODAY, the API is in 6.5, but no Symantec partners have released
products that use it.  Some have coded and are testing, but none have
made it available via GA.  (My guess would be that the early adopters
here are likely to be vendors like Data Domain whose primary interface
to NBU has been a NAS interface.)

Here's the page on this (although right now the link to the data sheet
is broken).
http://www.symantec.com/enterprise/products/agents_options_details.jsp?p
cid=2244&pvid=2_1&aoid=2_open_storage&tid=options

Option 2: NDMP Direct Copy

I've been asking for this for a while, and I'm really excited it's out,
well, almost...

Symantec didn't/doesn't the current Integrated VTL model of copying
virtual to physical tape. (They like the idea of having the VTL do its
own copying, but not the execution.) It's a copy process that they can't
control and/or report on.  

This option, that they've been working on for 1.5 years or so, is going
to give us our cake and let us eat it too.  This will allow VTLs that
can talk to tape to do so and let NetBackup control and report on the
process.  NetBackup will use NDMP as a control protocol (the original
coders of NDMP would be so proud to know of this use of their protocol
that was never envisioned) to tell the VTL to copy image A to another
tape.  Via this protocol a tape will be loaded into a drive, NetBackup
will label it and get it ready to send the image, and then NetBackup
will tell the VTL to send the image, much in the way that it tells a
filer today to send an NDMP dump directly to tape.  As far as NBU is
concerned, they're not involved once that's done.  The VTL will tell it,
"done," and NBU will record which tape it got copied to.  The VTL could
also, of course, say things like "failed," or "tape is full, I need
another tape," etc.  (It supports spanning tapes.)

(The fact that this is using NDMP has nothing to do with the format of
the backup.  It will be able to copy regular backups and NDMP backups.)

What I'm looking forward to is a VTL that uses this interface NOT to
copy to real tape, but to copy to another VTL, using de-dupe &
replication in the background to copy the image instantly and magicly,
while still allowing NetBackup to control the process.  Just think.  If
you were use de-dupe and replicating VTL a to VTL b, VTL a could "copy"
an image to VTL B without actually making the copy, just by moving bits
around.  This would rock, but it's definitely just a dream at this
point.

AS OF TODAY, the API is in 6.5, but none of the partners have gone GA
with their product that supports this feature.  They are in testing and
it should be out soon (my guess is sooner than the Open Storage API).
(Again, my guess here would be that the early adopters of this are
likely to be Integrated VTL vendors like Falconstor, Quantum/ADIC, &
NetApp.  There's no reason that all VTL vendors shouldn't be able to do
this, though.)

You can read a reference to it in the release notes, but there's nothing
there you didn't read here:
http://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_Enterprise
_Server/290196.pdf

---
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Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com
VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Reg: update MP4 patch to multiple client at a time

[Clooney, David]

First run a bpplclients -allunique -noheader > $file

 

Then

 

usage: /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/update_clients [-ForceInstall
-Install_Client_Bins -Install_ADC] \

[-ClientList filename | hardware_type operating_system]

 

Dave

 



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ramaswamy savi
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Reg: update MP4 patch to multiple client at a time

 

Hi

 

Netbackup 6.0 Mp4 is installed in Master Server (solaris server). I need
to update MP4 to  all the clients one at a time. Is there is any command
to push MP4 from the master server to all the clients.

 

Regards

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU Device Manager Wont Start

[Clooney, David]

Ouch,

Whats up, drives/library visible through the hBA's ?

Dave

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Dave
Not yet - robot was rebooted, and all hell broke loose... Now no media
servers see jack :-(((
So trying to get this sorted, before deleting the file :-)

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

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z :-)

You removed the file yet ?

Dave

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Sadly, not this process my friend (and it was the first thing I tried!)
Also, when I did reboot, I set services to manual, but when I start, I
still
get this process starting, and the event reports its already running
And
then you still CANT kill it :-(

Regards

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3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

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A boot will kill anything...

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Tried that - wont kill it !! I found a file thanks to another member,
which
I will try soon 

I know of and use the pstools on a daily basis. This one process wont
die !

Regards

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On wilndows I use a dos utility set called pstools.  It allows killing
99%
of tasks that are unkillable.  It also has a few other utils that I use
once
in a while but the main one I use is the pskill util.  It can kill on
local
machine and remote machhines as long as they are windows machines.

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/Utilities/PsTools.mspx

Doug Preston
Systems Engineer
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All
A Robotic Library was rebooted, which is shared with a Master and 10
Media
Servers. Master Server (Win2k3 NBU 5.1 MP4) was also rebooted

Although all Media Servers are online, one server and its service
(device
manager) refuses to start stating in the logs "Another ltid daemon is
already running"

Cannot find anything on the web that references this for Windows. 

I recall in the old days of 3.4, you could KILL processes within the NBU
Admin Console. Cannot seem to do this in 5.1, but I do see them listed.

I have rebooted the server, used task manager and it will not die !!

Any ideas?
Thanks

Regards

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU Device Manager Wont Start

[Clooney, David]

z :-)

You removed the file yet ?

Dave

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU Device Manager Wont Start


Sadly, not this process my friend (and it was the first thing I tried!)
Also, when I did reboot, I set services to manual, but when I start, I
still
get this process starting, and the event reports its already running
And
then you still CANT kill it :-(

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU

Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU Device Manager Wont Start


A boot will kill anything...

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Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 8:45 AM
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU Device Manager Wont Start


Tried that - wont kill it !! I found a file thanks to another member,
which
I will try soon 

I know of and use the pstools on a daily basis. This one process wont
die !

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)
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Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU Device Manager Wont Start


On wilndows I use a dos utility set called pstools.  It allows killing
99%
of tasks that are unkillable.  It also has a few other utils that I use
once
in a while but the main one I use is the pskill util.  It can kill on
local
machine and remote machhines as long as they are windows machines.

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/Utilities/PsTools.mspx

Doug Preston
Systems Engineer
Land America Tax and Flood Services
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All
A Robotic Library was rebooted, which is shared with a Master and 10
Media
Servers. Master Server (Win2k3 NBU 5.1 MP4) was also rebooted

Although all Media Servers are online, one server and its service
(device
manager) refuses to start stating in the logs "Another ltid daemon is
already running"

Cannot find anything on the web that references this for Windows. 

I recall in the old days of 3.4, you could KILL processes within the NBU
Admin Console. Cannot seem to do this in 5.1, but I do see them listed.

I have rebooted the server, used task manager and it will not die !!

Any ideas?
Thanks

Regards

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone successfully implemented VXSS?

[Clooney, David]

Thanks Tejas

What if our unix NIS domain and windows domain are separate entities? Is
it possible to authorize a user on a media server when the account does
not exist i.e unix & windows accounts are different ?

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>> windows and unix use different authentication methods which vxss
relies on therefore from the command logged in as userA on a unix box
how do you pull info from a windows media server ? 

Dave,
As long as both media servers (on unix and windows) are part of the same
Root Broker hierarchy and the logged in user has been authorized on both
media servers, you should be able to to pull info with the same user.

Once again, please refer to the yellow book for details.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU Device Manager Wont Start

[Clooney, David]

Simon

You need to remove the following file

{install_path}/VERITAS/VolMgr/misc/.ltisymlinks

And try again.

Dave

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All
A Robotic Library was rebooted, which is shared with a Master and 10
Media
Servers.
Master Server (Win2k3 NBU 5.1 MP4) was also rebooted

Although all Media Servers are online, one server and its service
(device
manager) refuses to start stating in the logs "Another ltid daemon is
already running"

Cannot find anything on the web that references this for Windows. 

I recall in the old days of 3.4, you could KILL processes within the NBU
Admin Console. Cannot seem to do this in 5.1, but I do see them listed.

I have rebooted the server, used task manager and it will not die !!

Any ideas?
Thanks

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone successfully implemented VXSS?

[Clooney, David]

Jared,

 

That's just the tip of the iceberg, that is a specific VXSS command and
should work straight off the bat, wait till you start trying to use the
standard NBU commands to pull of info from media  servers etc out there
that are possibly running on different platforms.  i.e windows and unix
use different authentication methods which vxss relies on therefore from
the command logged in as userA on a unix box how do you pull info from a
windows media server ?

 

 

There are certain bprsh commands that can incorporate your standard nbu
commands however I still am not a fan at all.

 

Have Fun :-)

 

Dave

 



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Actually just yesterday I tried using command line bpbnaz and got it
working.  I will check out that link, but there really is a lack of good
documentation for such a complicated product. 


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Kyle, if you need to administer NetBackup as a non-root user, VxSS is
the right option.

The most authoritative document on installing and configuring VxSS is
the recently released Symantec Product Authentication and Authorization
Yellow Book. The book has separate chapters dealing with Windows and
Linux/Unix use cases and multiple product deployment scenarios.

It can be downloaded from
http://www.symantec.com/enterprise/theme.jsp?themeid=yellowbooks

Jared, there are ways to define custom permission sets. Contact the
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone successfully implemented VXSS?

[Clooney, David]

>From the GUI's yes, how bout the command line ?

D

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Kyle, if you need to administer NetBackup as a non-root user, VxSS is
the right option.

The most authoritative document on installing and configuring VxSS is
the recently released Symantec Product Authentication and Authorization
Yellow Book. The book has separate chapters dealing with Windows and
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Upgrade 5.x to 6.5

[Clooney, David]

Thanks Simon

This is exactly the route we are taking before the year is out.

Dave

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Found this 

http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/290185.htm

Cant get to it myself But may be of some help to others

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Re: [Veritas-bu] bppllist as a non superuser

[Clooney, David]

Kyle

Possible idea would be to create the command and populate it into some
sort of temp file using your non-root user, then have a job in roots
cron that incorporates a  sleep  and an if statement in a loop  looking
for these files, it runs once found and puts the output somewhere where
you non-root user can then pick up, whilst the non-root user's script is
waiting for the ouptput.

Seen it work, and it works well, and the waits seem seemlless.

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well, bppllist is just parsing the data that it finds in
/usr/openv/netbackup/db/class/*

so depending on the amount / nature of the data you're trying to
extract, you could "roll your own" with cross-platform setuid
scripting of some sort.

not something I'd recommend, but technically feasible and you did ask
for "creative". ;-)

HTH
rob


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> My most focused post yet on the subject!
>
> I need to run bppllist as a non superuser for some reporting tools.
Ideally, without having to use a password either.  For whatever reason,
this particular binary checks for UID 0 and if you are not UID 0, you
get "userid is not superuser (140)."
>
>   I have tried authorized.txt (no effect), VXSS (password and
impossible to reliably setup), methods files [methods_allow.txt,
methods_deny.txt, methods.txt] (worked in small environment, caused
things to break in larger environments), sudo (password, no windows
solution), and RBAC (password, no windows solution).
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> Any creative ideas here?
>
> Thanks,
> Kyle
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone successfully implemented VXSS?

[Clooney, David]

The current environment I work in uses VXSS after working in many that
haven't. From my point of view it  is a pain in the arse.

 

Whenever I encounter issues VXSS is disabled first, just recently I was
developing a cross site catalog backup strategy utilising NBU catalog
command line utility (with root priv). Catalog backups completed however
failed in activity monitor with a error code 50. disable VXSS and away
you go. A new binary had to be sent from Symantec.

 

Along with this I think you will find a number of command switches might
have issue , an example I have come across is vmoprcmd's
-crawreleasbyname, she not work with VXSS

 

Dave

 



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Here is a guide that shows how to install on Solaris (9) and setting up
NIS.  I don't use NIS so I didn't do the NIS part. 

http://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_Enterprise
_Server/281626.pdf 

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Mylan Laboratories Inc.
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I would agree it is painful. Not to mention you probably don't want to
install it 
on the master server lest it hoark your configuration files (I am
running on Solaris 10). 

There's also no way to use NIS (or the support folks are not aware of
how to do it). So you 
effectively need to create accounts for each user you want to have
access. 




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I am currently in the process of testing VXSS, and it is somewhat
painful.  I have it setup and working correctly with most default
settings.  In permissions of the user groups you cannot select just to
allow a group to restart and resume jobs from activity monitor.  You
have to select everything under "Operate" and cannot select individual
permissions under that. 

I have tried to setup custom permissions sets, they appear to be correct
but I am unable to use them.  There are also about 5 different documents
about setting up VXSS on the Symantec support site, each varying
slightly. 

I have it running on a solaris 9 master and have aix and windows media
all working with vxss, if I could figure out a way to define custom
permission sets this would be great product. 


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On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, Kyle Oliver wrote:

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> Everything I read out on the web suggests the setting up of VXSS is a
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Or the real question, what are you trying to Achieve?  You may want to
use 
NBU Reporter or NBU NOM and assign lower levels of permission that way.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] bparchive

[Clooney, David]

Thanks Jonathan

 



From: Martin, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 22 August 2007 14:50
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BPARCHIVE will not remove the data unless the backup completes
successfully - Status 0.

 

Even a Status 1 (skipped file or the like) and the archive completes but
the data is not removed.

 

-Jonathan

 

 



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Quick Q all

 

Does bparchive wait until successful completion before deleting the data
its archived, or does it delete as it in progress ?

 

Dave

 



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Quick Q all

 

Does bparchive wait until successful completion before deleting the data
its archived, or does it delete as it in progress ?

 

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