Re: [Veritas-bu] Aptare Storage Console vs. Veritas Backup Reporter

2008-02-05 Thread Matthew Agle
All,

 I have done a couple of comparisons with VBR and different reporting
tools and what I have found is that its a givetake situation.  Depending on
the features you need, Aptare is probably the best out there followed by
BackupVISUAL (though BackupVISUAL is a good tool, its implementation is a
little bit questionable, IMHO) followed by VBR followed by etc... you get
the idea.  My biggest problem is that VBR does not handle/record/update
change very well and with a mixed environment with multiple Master/Media
boxes on varied networks, the problems become even more evident including
inconsistent numbers (currently we offset this with some heavy perl
scripting).  To their defense VBR is stable, installation has always been
smooth and crashes are next to non-existent but what that's worth compared
to other products. well I guess it comes down to price/needs.

On Feb 5, 2008 5:50 AM, Kevin Whittaker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

  I would agree with Ed, that Aptare is a much better product them VBR.

 Depending on your size, check out backupVISUAL.  It is a very easy product
 to learn and it was extremely simple to install.

 Kevin

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 *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Ed Wilts
 *Sent:* Monday, February 04, 2008 5:34 PM
 *To:* Forester, Jack L
 *Cc:* veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 *Subject:* Re: [Veritas-bu] Aptare Storage Console vs. Veritas Backup
 Reporter

 It's been a while since I've done the head-to-head but I recently asked my
 salesrep for a quote on VBR to see if it might be worthwhile be switching.
 VBR is considerably more expensive than Aptare's StorageConsole.  However, I
 will add that I just saw Aptare's new license terms today and didn't like
 them one bit.  I've got a query in to them...

 In terms of straight feature comparisons, I believe that Aptare still wins
 (it wasn't even close when we purchased StorageConsole).  I've seen their
 6.5 release although I haven't had a chance to install it yet and it's
 quite impressive - I've been hounding my Unix admins to give me a production
 environment to put it on (it doesn't support RHEL 3 which is where I'm
 currently at on the portal).

 The one thing I've noticed about backup reporting products is that there
 are features in there that are very important to some customers and very
 useless to others.  There may be 1 feature in there that you absolutely have
 to have so it's in your best interest to have a detailed look at what you
 need and what each product has to offer.  Start with price quotes from both
 vendors, pick the cheapest, do a through analysis of it, and if it meets all
 of your needs, you're done.  If there's stuff missing, then you may have to
 step up in price.  What you'll find out, though, is that in some cases
 you're paying for features you may never need and that's just wasting money.

 Aptare and Veritas aren't the only players in the game these days either.

 Yes, I know that both Veritas and Aptare are listening :-)

.../Ed

 On Feb 4, 2008 3:53 PM, Forester, Jack L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I'm looking at reporting tools for NetBackup, and was wondering if
  anyone has done a head-to-head comparison of Storage Console vs. Backup
  Reporter.  Aptare has always received high praise here, and the Veritas
  product, well, has never been mentioned in the same breath as Aptare.
  I've heard that Backup reporter has improved over the years, but can it
  yet hold a candle to Storage Console?
 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Restore of SQL2000 DB to SQL2005 server

2008-02-04 Thread Matthew Agle
You can convert a 2000DB to 2K5DB but that would be a job for the DBA
(there is a wizard for this but keep a backup of the 2000 DB and restore to
a new instance of the 2K5 using the conversion wizard).  Where you restore
the information is relative but this sounds like a database question more
than a netbackup question.

On Feb 4, 2008 8:12 AM, WEAVER, Simon (external) 
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  *Steve*
 *Although I have never tried it, it should actually be possible within SQL
 2000 itself. Essentially, backup the DB using the SQL Backup tool (in
 SQL2000) and then simply import (or restore) the DB into SQL 2005. Im sure
 there is a wizard for this task.*
 **
 *Ive not actually tried it, but is there anything in the NetBackup DB
 Admin Guide ?*
 **
 *Simon*

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 *Subject:* [Veritas-bu] Restore of SQL2000 DB to SQL2005 server

  Hi, I have received a request to restore a DB which was backed up on a
 SQL2000 client to a new server running SQL2005.



 I know you can redirect a restore of a SQL DB to a different host but do
 not know whether restoring to a different version of SQL is possible. Has
 anyone done this and if so were there any issues?



 Any information gratefully received.



 The NetBackup environment is running on v5.1MP6.



 Thanks in advance,



 Steve.



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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 5.1 MP5 all jobs hanging

2007-12-30 Thread Matthew Agle
I've seen that action with solaris 10/NBU5.1MP5.  We ended up finding a
memory leak with the bpsched module, sent a memory dump to Veritas and they
provided an update to us.  I suggest the next time it happens that you get a
memory dump and send it in.

Matthew


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  We have seen at least 4 times in the last week where all Jobs Hang and it
 looks like BPSCHED goes away. We must then use the Kill -9 command on the
 Solaris 8 host to kill everything as the bp.kill_all and netbackup stop
 commands are ineffective. Anyone else seen this behavior in 5.1 MP5 ???



 Steven R. Hudson

 Sysadmin - Enterprise Storage

 Iron Mountain

 745 Atlantic Avenue

 Boston MA 02111

 Phone: (617) 535-2849



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