Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP backups from Netapp using Netbackup

2010-07-27 Thread Shawn Plummer

We used to get HORRIBLE (8MB/s ish) performance doing CIFS backups of our 
NetApp filer, and I was pretty sure Symantec recommended against doing our 
backups that way (this was 3 years ago or so). We do backup exclusively to tape 
though so maybe that makes the difference.

Also I didn’t think NTFS permissions were restored correctly when using CIFs 
shares as your backup source.

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Shawn Plummer
Systems Manager
CIT SUNY Geneseo
"The mind can make substance, and people planets of its own with beings 
brighter than have been, and give a breath to forms which can outlive all 
flesh." -Lord Byron

On Jul 27, 2010, at 11:29 AM, Ed Wilts wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Len Boyle  wrote:
> With the new backup support for what was called pure disk the backup data is 
> going to disk and only the changed blocks. But if I understand things the 
> netapp would have to have code installed on it that would understand the pure 
> disk api.
> 
> What Symantec is actually recommending now is to use a traditional Unix or 
> Windows client and NFS-mount or CIFS-mount the data.  Then do your normal 
> backups to a PureDisk storage unit and do continuous incrementals and 
> synthetic fulls.  With the new PD code, a synthetic full only does pointer 
> changes so they got like a bat out of...
> 
> As an extra bonus, because you're using a non-NDMP client, you can restore 
> the file to anywhere, not just the same NDMP type of host that you started 
> from.  
> 
> As a double-added bonus, a Unix or Windows license (list $2,595 to $6,095 for 
> x86/x64 clients) is a LOT cheaper than  an NDMP license, especially if you a 
> have big filer (list $3,500 to $15,500).  
> 
> The de-dupe option is VERY pricey though at $5k per front-end TB (MSRP).  In 
> our environment, we're about 180TB of used space at the moment.  The list 
> price of backup it all up with de-dupe would top a million bucks with the 
> media servers and the de-dupe licenses.  And that doesn't include the disk to 
> put it to.
> 
>.../Ed
> 
> Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE 
> ewi...@ewilts.org
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU Rel 7.0

2010-03-03 Thread Shawn Plummer
On Mar 3, 2010, at 9:45 AM, Jim Caldwell wrote:

> I am contemplating installing NBU 7.0 any known issues or gotcha's? Solaris 
> 10 is my Master/Media Server, clients, Solaris, Windows, Hyper-V and SQL. My 
> current level is 6.5.4.

We have upgraded our productions servers to 7.0 here.

The upgrade was smooth and easy. We did our master server and media server in 
an afternoon. no harder than doing a 6.5.x patch really.

A few things we have noticed:

VMWare backups are hugely improved.

We have yet to successfully restore a Virtual Machine backup however. It 
restores the files to the VMware datastore, they all appear to be there, then 
it claims tar did not find all the files and deletes everything it just 
restored. There are a lot of moving parts with this and we are still working on 
resolving this one.

Using the new use VM Name selection method in our policies has resulted in 
vault duplications of images with spaces failing.

Otherwise all our normal UNIX and Windows backups seem to be running just fine. 
I can’t comment on SQL database agents, as we do not use any database agents 
here.


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Systems Manager
CIT SUNY Geneseo
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brighter than have been, and give a breath to forms which can outlive all 
flesh." -Lord Byron

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 7.0 VMware and Vault Problem

2010-02-26 Thread Shawn Plummer
On Feb 22, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Shawn Plummer wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> I am new to the list but it was suggested to me as a place to ask about some 
> odd behavior we are seeing on our recent Netbackup 7.0 upgraded system with 
> VMWare backups and Vault.
> 
> The basic issue is that we have a VMWare backups that backup ok, but when 
> vault goes to duplicate them it seems to hang on the duplication of image 
> job. They run for hours with no increase in progress until I finally manually 
> cancel them.
> 
> The only thing that seems odd about them is that they have kind of long Names 
> with spaces (I am using the new VM Name option rather than host name option 
> for selecting them in the policies)
> 
> The names of the images in the Job Details window are similar to 
> Oracle%20Collaboration%20Suite%2010.1.2_1266535125
> 
> Another curious thing I have seen is it showed "Current Kilobytes written” as 
> 2814727788026040 of an estimated Kilobytes of 14157877 on one of our jobs.
> 
> If anyone has seen this or knows of any issues I would appreciate any 
> pointers.

I have been doing some more research on this problem and have discovered that 
none of our VM images with spaces in their names are duplicating.

In our vault jobs I see a lot of this sort of thing:

File List:
banapp2_1266795268
Illiad01%20-%20InterLibrary%20Loan%20System_1266795366
EMS3%20-%20Event%20Management%20Server_1266800758
sjs%20-%20Spectrum%20Justice%20System_1266802623


02/26/2010 04:33:52 - begin reading
02/26/2010 04:34:14 - Error bptm (pid=29098) cannot write data to socket, 
Broken pipe
02/26/2010 04:34:14 - Error bpduplicate (pid=24824) host netbackup.geneseo.edu 
backup id Illiad01%20-%20InterLibrary%20Loan%20System_1266795366 read failed, 
media manager killed by signal (82).
02/26/2010 04:34:14 - Error bpduplicate (pid=24824) host netbackup.geneseo.edu 
backupid Illiad01%20-%20InterLibrary%20Loan%20System_1266795366 write process 
failed, client process aborted (50).
02/26/2010 04:34:14 - Error bptm (pid=29089) media manager terminated by parent 
process
02/26/2010 04:34:15 - Error bpduplicate (pid=24824) Duplicate of backupid 
Illiad01%20-%20InterLibrary%20Loan%20System_1266795366 failed, client process 
aborted (50).


So a word of warning to anyone that goes to 7 and uses VMnames to select your 
VMWare backups, Vault apparently cannot duplicate those VMs that uses spaces in 
their names. I am in the process of changing the name of one of the VMs that 
previously failed to duplicate to something without spaces and will re run the 
duplication and see if that resolves it. I expect it to as our VM images 
without spaces seem to duplicate just fine. This also would not be a problem if 
you stick with using the hostname in your policies I presume.

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Systems Manager
CIT SUNY Geneseo
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brighter than have been, and give a breath to forms which can outlive all 
flesh." -Lord Byron

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[Veritas-bu] NetBackup 7.0 VMware and Vault Problem

2010-02-22 Thread Shawn Plummer
Hello all,

I am new to the list but it was suggested to me as a place to ask about some 
odd behavior we are seeing on our recent Netbackup 7.0 upgraded system with 
VMWare backups and Vault.

The basic issue is that we have a VMWare backups that backup ok, but when vault 
goes to duplicate them it seems to hang on the duplication of image job. They 
run for hours with no increase in progress until I finally manually cancel them.

The only thing that seems odd about them is that they have kind of long Names 
with spaces (I am using the new VM Name option rather than host name option for 
selecting them in the policies)

The names of the images in the Job Details window are similar to 
Oracle%20Collaboration%20Suite%2010.1.2_1266535125

Another curious thing I have seen is it showed "Current Kilobytes written” as 
2814727788026040 of an estimated Kilobytes of 14157877 on one of our jobs.

If anyone has seen this or knows of any issues I would appreciate any pointers.

On a side note, LOVE the increased speed of VMWare SAN backups! amazing!

Thanks!

~
Shawn Plummer
Systems Manager
CIT SUNY Geneseo
"The mind can make substance, and people planets of its own with beings 
brighter than have been, and give a breath to forms which can outlive all 
flesh." -Lord Byron

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