Re: [Veritas-bu] Determining Number of Additional Client LicensesinNetBackup
Thanks Paul, Searching for the title of that document yielded a slightly newer version (dated December 6, 2004): http://eval.symantec.com/mktginfo/products/White_Papers/Data_Protection/nbu_5x_plguide_update_final.pdf It definitively answers a lot of licensing questions that I have about 5.x. Has anything changed for 6.0? Austin On 7/19/07, Paul Keating <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: > http://eval.symantec.com/mktginfo/products/Sales_Docs/Data_Protection/nb > u_51_plguide_final_060304.pdf > > I haven't seen an updated version of this lately > > MULTIPLE DOMAIN OR VIRTUAL MACHINE SYSTEMS > NetBackup components (servers, clients, and database agents) for UNIX, > Windows, NetWare, and Linux are each licensed > once per physical machine. If a physical machine runs multiple Operating > Systems and Databases, then the physical machine > requires one NetBackup component for each Operating System and Database > type. Please note that this policy supersedes > previous licensing policies that were communicated before the date of > this document. > Exception: NetBackup Clients installed on IBM zSeries (OS/390) should be > licensed once per virtual machine. This is an > exception to the standard NetBackup policy of licensing clients once per > physical machine. > > -- > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Preston, Douglas L [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: July 19, 2007 2:04 PM > > To: Austin Murphy > > Cc: Paul Keating; Ed Wilts; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu > > Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Determining Number of Additional > > Client LicensesinNetBackup > > > > > > You can not backup running vm virtual machines one a esx box > > by backing > > up the linux side of the esx box. The only way to backup them up via > > netbackup is to purchase a license for each vm virtual machine. > > In your example of "10 linux vm virtual machines and 10 windows vm > > virtual machines" you will need 10 linux and 10 windows licenses for > > netbackup to back them up. > > > > We have 8 esx servers running here and some I use esxranger > > to back them > > up but most of the virtual machines we want file level restore > > capability so we had to purchase the netbackup licenses. > > > > Doug Preston > > Systems Engineer > > Land America Tax and Flood Services > > Phone 626-339-5221 Ext 1104 > > Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message----- > > From: Austin Murphy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:49 AM > > To: Preston, Douglas L > > Cc: Paul Keating; Ed Wilts; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu > > Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Determining Number of Additional Client > > LicensesinNetBackup > > > > On 7/19/07, Preston, Douglas L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > ... then used the existing license to backup the images. > > > > Yes, but... If you have 10 linux virtuals and 10 windows virtuals > > running on a single VMware on linux system, how many > > NetBackup licenses > > do you need? > > > > The prevailing wisdom on the list seems to indicate you need 1 linux > > license AND 1 windows license. > > > > To put it more plainly, in the example given, 1 linux license for the > > base system is insufficient, and 20 licenses (10 linux and 10 windows) > > are not necessary. > > > > If anyone else can corroborate this I'd be glad to hear it. > > > > Austin > > > ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Determining Number of Additional Client LicensesinNetBackup
From: http://eval.symantec.com/mktginfo/products/Sales_Docs/Data_Protection/nb u_51_plguide_final_060304.pdf I haven't seen an updated version of this lately MULTIPLE DOMAIN OR VIRTUAL MACHINE SYSTEMS NetBackup components (servers, clients, and database agents) for UNIX, Windows, NetWare, and Linux are each licensed once per physical machine. If a physical machine runs multiple Operating Systems and Databases, then the physical machine requires one NetBackup component for each Operating System and Database type. Please note that this policy supersedes previous licensing policies that were communicated before the date of this document. Exception: NetBackup Clients installed on IBM zSeries (OS/390) should be licensed once per virtual machine. This is an exception to the standard NetBackup policy of licensing clients once per physical machine. -- > -Original Message- > From: Preston, Douglas L [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: July 19, 2007 2:04 PM > To: Austin Murphy > Cc: Paul Keating; Ed Wilts; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu > Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Determining Number of Additional > Client LicensesinNetBackup > > > You can not backup running vm virtual machines one a esx box > by backing > up the linux side of the esx box. The only way to backup them up via > netbackup is to purchase a license for each vm virtual machine. > In your example of "10 linux vm virtual machines and 10 windows vm > virtual machines" you will need 10 linux and 10 windows licenses for > netbackup to back them up. > > We have 8 esx servers running here and some I use esxranger > to back them > up but most of the virtual machines we want file level restore > capability so we had to purchase the netbackup licenses. > > Doug Preston > Systems Engineer > Land America Tax and Flood Services > Phone 626-339-5221 Ext 1104 > Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > -- > > NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission may constitute a > communication > that is legally privileged. It is not intended for transmission to, or > receipt by, any unauthorized persons. If you have received this > electronic mail transmission in error, please delete it from > your system > without copying it, and notify the sender by reply e-mail, so that our > address record can be corrected. > -- > -- > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Austin Murphy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:49 AM > To: Preston, Douglas L > Cc: Paul Keating; Ed Wilts; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu > Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Determining Number of Additional Client > LicensesinNetBackup > > On 7/19/07, Preston, Douglas L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > ... then used the existing license to backup the images. > > Yes, but... If you have 10 linux virtuals and 10 windows virtuals > running on a single VMware on linux system, how many > NetBackup licenses > do you need? > > The prevailing wisdom on the list seems to indicate you need 1 linux > license AND 1 windows license. > > To put it more plainly, in the example given, 1 linux license for the > base system is insufficient, and 20 licenses (10 linux and 10 windows) > are not necessary. > > If anyone else can corroborate this I'd be glad to hear it. > > Austin > La version française suit le texte anglais. This email may contain privileged and/or confidential information, and the Bank of Canada does not waive any related rights. Any distribution, use, or copying of this email or the information it contains by other than the intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this email in error please delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by email that you have done so. Le présent courriel peut contenir de l'information privilégiée ou confidentielle. La Banque du Canada ne renonce pas aux droits qui s'y rapportent. Toute diffusion, utilisation ou copie de ce courriel ou des renseignements qu'il contient par une personne autre que le ou les destinataires désignés est interdite. Si vous recevez ce courriel par erreur, veuillez le supprimer immédiatement et envoyer sans délai à l'expéditeur un message électronique pour l'aviser que vous avez éliminé de votre ordinateur toute copie du courriel reçu. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Determining Number of Additional Client LicensesinNetBackup
You can not backup running vm virtual machines one a esx box by backing up the linux side of the esx box. The only way to backup them up via netbackup is to purchase a license for each vm virtual machine. In your example of "10 linux vm virtual machines and 10 windows vm virtual machines" you will need 10 linux and 10 windows licenses for netbackup to back them up. We have 8 esx servers running here and some I use esxranger to back them up but most of the virtual machines we want file level restore capability so we had to purchase the netbackup licenses. Doug Preston Systems Engineer Land America Tax and Flood Services Phone 626-339-5221 Ext 1104 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission may constitute a communication that is legally privileged. It is not intended for transmission to, or receipt by, any unauthorized persons. If you have received this electronic mail transmission in error, please delete it from your system without copying it, and notify the sender by reply e-mail, so that our address record can be corrected. -Original Message- From: Austin Murphy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:49 AM To: Preston, Douglas L Cc: Paul Keating; Ed Wilts; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Determining Number of Additional Client LicensesinNetBackup On 7/19/07, Preston, Douglas L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... then used the existing license to backup the images. Yes, but... If you have 10 linux virtuals and 10 windows virtuals running on a single VMware on linux system, how many NetBackup licenses do you need? The prevailing wisdom on the list seems to indicate you need 1 linux license AND 1 windows license. To put it more plainly, in the example given, 1 linux license for the base system is insufficient, and 20 licenses (10 linux and 10 windows) are not necessary. If anyone else can corroborate this I'd be glad to hear it. Austin ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Determining Number of Additional Client LicensesinNetBackup
On 7/19/07, Preston, Douglas L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... then used the existing license to backup the images. Yes, but... If you have 10 linux virtuals and 10 windows virtuals running on a single VMware on linux system, how many NetBackup licenses do you need? The prevailing wisdom on the list seems to indicate you need 1 linux license AND 1 windows license. To put it more plainly, in the example given, 1 linux license for the base system is insufficient, and 20 licenses (10 linux and 10 windows) are not necessary. If anyone else can corroborate this I'd be glad to hear it. Austin ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Determining Number of Additional Client LicensesinNetBackup
Unless you used something like esxranger to backup the vmware server instances to a physical machine then used the existing license to backup the images. Esxranger is licensed per cpu of the esx box. If it has 4 cpus you would need to license 4 to backup that esx box. Doug Preston Systems Engineer Land America Tax and Flood Services Phone 626-339-5221 Ext 1104 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission may constitute a communication that is legally privileged. It is not intended for transmission to, or receipt by, any unauthorized persons. If you have received this electronic mail transmission in error, please delete it from your system without copying it, and notify the sender by reply e-mail, so that our address record can be corrected. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Keating Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 9:15 AM To: Austin Murphy; Ed Wilts Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Determining Number of Additional Client LicensesinNetBackup I don't have a link at the moment, nor the time to search for it, but I'll back up what Ed says. For a Vmware physical server, you need one client license per OS. F'rinstance, a box running ESX, with Windows and Linux virtual servers on it, would require 1 windows and 1 linux license. Paul -- > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Austin > Murphy > Sent: July 19, 2007 11:43 AM > To: Ed Wilts > Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu > Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Determining Number of Additional Client > Licensesin NetBackup > > > On 10/9/06, Ed Wilts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >You can have multiple virtual servers per physical servers (e.g. > > Windows cluster) that require 1 license per physical > system, and you can > > have multiple operating systems on a VMware server that require one > > license per operating system type. > > Hi Ed, > > Do you know if this is publicly documented by symantec/veritas? > > The vmware style licensing variation could make for a significant > difference in our licensing costs. > > Thanks, > > Austin > ___ > Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu > http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu > La version française suit le texte anglais. This email may contain privileged and/or confidential information, and the Bank of Canada does not waive any related rights. Any distribution, use, or copying of this email or the information it contains by other than the intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this email in error please delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by email that you have done so. Le présent courriel peut contenir de l'information privilégiée ou confidentielle. La Banque du Canada ne renonce pas aux droits qui s'y rapportent. Toute diffusion, utilisation ou copie de ce courriel ou des renseignements qu'il contient par une personne autre que le ou les destinataires désignés est interdite. Si vous recevez ce courriel par erreur, veuillez le supprimer immédiatement et envoyer sans délai à l'expéditeur un message électronique pour l'aviser que vous avez éliminé de votre ordinateur toute copie du courriel reçu. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
