Re: [Veritas-bu] Reg: Schedule backup
You know - you should probably open a support case next time you encounter this issue. If you could cron nbpemreq -tables screen to run once a day to an output file - that might be helpful to narrow down the time frame of the occurance too. If you remove pempersist - just make sure that you don't suspend or cancel jobs and then attempt to restart them as that tends to be a sure fire way to break parent and child associations and my cause other missed/skipped backups. Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:14:47 + From: A Darren Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Reg: Schedule backup To: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 07:01:51AM -0700, d w wrote: Please do not remove the pempersist file without direction from Technical support. The technote is in the process of being pulled from the website. If you remove pempersist when jobs are canceled/suspended prior to recycling NetBackup, it is possible to break the parent and child job associations and cause missed/skipped backups. First I've heard of that. But then again, I'm only doing it when I miss backups anyway. :-) If you are skipping backups I would take a look at whether or not you are using frequency based backups vs. calendar. With frequency based backups, if your frequency is set to one week, you must BOTH have an open window and a minimum of a week must have elapsed since the last backup. If this is the case - change the frequency to once every 5 days and see if that helps. Don't know about the OP, but on my problem policies, I'm calendar only. Sometimes one or two of the 'full' backups just don't get scheduled. Is this 5.x or 6.0? For me, 6.0, 6.0MP3, and 6.0MP4. MP4 is better, but they never disappeared. /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/nbpemreq -tables screen /tmp/tables.out Take a look at the tables.out file generated and locate the policy in question. When is this full backup due to run? It's been a while since I've done this. My fuzzy memory says the last time I looked at this during a problem, the actual schedule times were correct, but the 'dont_sched' flag was set to 1. After clearing pempersist and restarting, 'dont_sched' went to 0. I have a number of fulls scheduled for the end of the month. If I have one that doesn't start, I'll pull the tables output for it. -- Darren Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Technical Consultant TAOS http://www.taos.com/ Got some Dr Pepper? San Francisco, CA bay area This line left intentionally blank to confuse you. - Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today!___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Reg: Schedule backup
On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 10:56:47AM -0700, d w wrote: You know - you should probably open a support case next time you encounter this issue. Yes, but at some point I give up if it's not a serious issue. I had a case on one of these open for quite a while. Either I found the tech note or they pointed me at it and I've used it. Most of my backups have monthly fulls, so if anything they suggest makes it look better, they want to close the ticket and I can't make it happen on demand to suggest that it's not fixed yet. I created some scripts that give me a fast heads-up if a schedule is skipped, so I can either manually run them or kick the pempersist file, so this hasn't been a big issue lately. Honestly until your message about it, I simply considered it one of those things with 6.0MP4 (and I don't know that I'm interested in going to MP5). If you could cron nbpemreq -tables screen to run once a day to an output file - that might be helpful to narrow down the time frame of the occurance too. Good idea and done. At least that'll give me a bit more than a week's worth before the end of the month. If you remove pempersist - just make sure that you don't suspend or cancel jobs and then attempt to restart them as that tends to be a sure fire way to break parent and child associations and my cause other missed/skipped backups. Good to know. Not common for me, but certainly not something I was looking to specifically avoid. -- Darren Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Technical Consultant TAOShttp://www.taos.com/ Got some Dr Pepper? San Francisco, CA bay area This line left intentionally blank to confuse you. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Reg: Schedule backup
Please do not remove the pempersist file without direction from Technical support. The technote is in the process of being pulled from the website. If you remove pempersist when jobs are canceled/suspended prior to recycling NetBackup, it is possible to break the parent and child job associations and cause missed/skipped backups. If you are skipping backups I would take a look at whether or not you are using frequency based backups vs. calendar. With frequency based backups, if your frequency is set to one week, you must BOTH have an open window and a minimum of a week must have elapsed since the last backup. If this is the case - change the frequency to once every 5 days and see if that helps. Is this 5.x or 6.0? Have you removed and recreated the policy (don't copy)? If this is 6.0 - run the following: /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/nbpemreq -tables screen /tmp/tables.out Take a look at the tables.out file generated and locate the policy in question. When is this full backup due to run? D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Send Veritas-bu mailing list submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:30:30 + From: A Darren Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Reg: Schedule backup To: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 08:38:20AM -0700, ramaswamy savi wrote: Hi The backup has been scheduled on friday at 10.00 PM, but it does n't start at specified time at all, for past four weeks i am starting the backup maunally. Whenever I hear schedules not running on 6.0, I think of clearing out the pempersist file as the first step. http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/281780.htm -- Darren Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Technical Consultant TAOS http://www.taos.com/ Got some Dr Pepper? San Francisco, CA bay area This line left intentionally blank to confuse you. - Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more!___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Reg: Schedule backup
On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 07:01:51AM -0700, d w wrote: Please do not remove the pempersist file without direction from Technical support. The technote is in the process of being pulled from the website. If you remove pempersist when jobs are canceled/suspended prior to recycling NetBackup, it is possible to break the parent and child job associations and cause missed/skipped backups. First I've heard of that. But then again, I'm only doing it when I miss backups anyway. :-) If you are skipping backups I would take a look at whether or not you are using frequency based backups vs. calendar. With frequency based backups, if your frequency is set to one week, you must BOTH have an open window and a minimum of a week must have elapsed since the last backup. If this is the case - change the frequency to once every 5 days and see if that helps. Don't know about the OP, but on my problem policies, I'm calendar only. Sometimes one or two of the 'full' backups just don't get scheduled. Is this 5.x or 6.0? For me, 6.0, 6.0MP3, and 6.0MP4. MP4 is better, but they never disappeared. /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/nbpemreq -tables screen /tmp/tables.out Take a look at the tables.out file generated and locate the policy in question. When is this full backup due to run? It's been a while since I've done this. My fuzzy memory says the last time I looked at this during a problem, the actual schedule times were correct, but the 'dont_sched' flag was set to 1. After clearing pempersist and restarting, 'dont_sched' went to 0. I have a number of fulls scheduled for the end of the month. If I have one that doesn't start, I'll pull the tables output for it. -- Darren Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Technical Consultant TAOShttp://www.taos.com/ Got some Dr Pepper? San Francisco, CA bay area This line left intentionally blank to confuse you. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Reg: Schedule backup
Hi The backup has been scheduled on friday at 10.00 PM, but it does n't start at specified time at all, for past four weeks i am starting the backup maunally. It works fine in manuall backup. I installed the patch mp4 in solaris server with solaris client in master server , after that to update the mp4 patch to all clinet from master , I installed all clients in Master server. I pushed the patch mp4 from master to all client using update_client all all, but all the client has 6.0 only. so i manually installed patch in all client. Before applying the patch also i had same issue. Pls let me know how to rectify it Regards Hemalatha.N.R - Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search.___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Reg: Schedule backup
On Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 08:38:20AM -0700, ramaswamy savi wrote: Hi The backup has been scheduled on friday at 10.00 PM, but it does n't start at specified time at all, for past four weeks i am starting the backup maunally. Whenever I hear schedules not running on 6.0, I think of clearing out the pempersist file as the first step. http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/281780.htm -- Darren Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Technical Consultant TAOShttp://www.taos.com/ Got some Dr Pepper? San Francisco, CA bay area This line left intentionally blank to confuse you. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Reg: Schedule backup
What is the schedule frequency set to? Jared M. Seaton Recovery Administrator Mylan Laboratories Inc. 304-554-5926 304-685-1389 (Cell) ramaswamy savi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/19/2007 11:45 AM To VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject [Veritas-bu] Reg: Schedule backup Hi The backup has been scheduled on friday at 10.00 PM, but it does n't start at specified time at all, for past four weeks i am starting the backup maunally. It works fine in manuall backup. I installed the patch mp4 in solaris server with solaris client in master server , after that to update the mp4 patch to all clinet from master , I installed all clients in Master server. I pushed the patch mp4 from master to all client using update_client all all, but all the client has 6.0 only. so i manually installed patch in all client. Before applying the patch also i had same issue. Pls let me know how to rectify it Regards Hemalatha.N.R Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu == CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged, proprietary and/or confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution, duplication or other use of this message and/or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message and its attachments. Thank you. == ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Reg: Schedule backup
Hi Frequency set is calender schedule on every week friday at 9.00 PM Regards Hemalatha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the schedule frequency set to? Jared M. Seaton Recovery Administrator Mylan Laboratories Inc. 304-554-5926 304-685-1389 (Cell) ramaswamy savi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/19/2007 11:45 AM To VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject [Veritas-bu] Reg: Schedule backup Hi The backup has been scheduled on friday at 10.00 PM, but it does n't start at specified time at all, for past four weeks i am starting the backup maunally. It works fine in manuall backup. I installed the patch mp4 in solaris server with solaris client in master server , after that to update the mp4 patch to all clinet from master , I installed all clients in Master server. I pushed the patch mp4 from master to all client using update_client all all, but all the client has 6.0 only. so i manually installed patch in all client. Before applying the patch also i had same issue. Pls let me know how to rectify it Regards Hemalatha.N.R - Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search.___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu == CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged, proprietary and/or confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution, duplication or other use of this message and/or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message and its attachments. Thank you. == - Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
