RE: [Veritas-bu] Backing up virtual servers

2006-04-09 Thread Mansell, Richard
Title: Message



 
We purchased NetBackup recently and we were advised then 
that in a VMWare environment we would simply need one client license per OS. So 
for each physical machine you would need one to back up the VMWare/Linux 
environment (if desired) then one Windows client which would cover one or more 
virtual servers.
 
Regards
 
Richard
 

  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WEAVER, 
  SimonSent: Friday, 7 April 2006 7:36 pmTo: 'Roger 
  Wilber'Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: 
  [Veritas-bu] Backing up virtual servers
  
  But if the VM is not running as a local 
  administrator, thats going to cause a 
  problem?
  I wasnt aware there was a license issue with VM machines on a 
  host!! Made need to clarify this :-)
   
   
  Regards
  Simon 
  Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows Domain 
  Administrator 
  EADS Astrium 
  Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 
  5PU
  Email: 
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-Original Message-From: Roger Wilber 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 April 2006 
15:51To: WEAVER, SimonCc: 
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] 
Backing up virtual serversEasier?  Probably.  
However, that would also require additional client licenses, where as my 
method does not. For long lived virtual servers, I can see buying 
additional client licenses and setting up an NBU client on each virtual 
server but for temporary virtual servers that aren't expected to last more 
than a couple of weeks, I just couldn't. 
On 4/6/06, WEAVER, 
Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote: 

  
  Roger
  Would it not be 
  easier to apply the NBU Client? That way, it can run either if anyone is 
  logged on or logged off?
  Regards
  Simon 
  Weaver3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain 
  Administrator 
  EADS Astrium 
  Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 
  5PU
  Email: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  

-Original Message-From: Roger Wilber 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 05 April 2006 
15:10To: WEAVER, SimonCc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: 
Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing up virtual serversAnother 
possibility exists, especially for temporary test setups:While 
backing up the the Windows VM host (lets call it vmhost), I just add 
into the backup selection something along the lines of  "\\vm1\C$" 
where vm1 is one of the virtual machines.  The Netbackup client on 
vmhost has to be running as an administrative user.  I create a 
special account for it and change the password on a regular 
schedule.  That allows me to backup the (in my case test 
environment) VMs individually as long as they are in use. 
On 4/5/06, WEAVER, Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

  
  Well think of 
  the virtual server as a physical one. As long as it can resolve name 
  resolution, is not blocked by any firewalls, and can communicate with 
  its host netbackup server, should be 
  ok.
   
  We used to do 
  this on NT4, so my guess is, not alot has changed :-) Its a standard 
  PC Client software on what it believes is a physical machine 
  :-)
   
  Thanks
  
  Regards
  Simon 
  Weaver3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain 
  Administrator 
  EADS 
  Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)Anchorage 
  Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
  Email: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  


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RE: [Veritas-bu] Backing up virtual servers

2006-04-07 Thread WEAVER, Simon
Title: Message



But if the VM is not running as a local administrator, 
thats going to cause a problem?
I 
wasnt aware there was a license issue with VM machines on a host!! Made need to 
clarify this :-)
 
 
Regards
Simon Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows 
Domain Administrator 
EADS Astrium 
Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 
5PU
Email: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  
  -Original Message-From: Roger Wilber 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 April 2006 
  15:51To: WEAVER, SimonCc: 
  veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing 
  up virtual serversEasier?  Probably.  However, 
  that would also require additional client licenses, where as my method does 
  not. For long lived virtual servers, I can see buying additional 
  client licenses and setting up an NBU client on each virtual server but for 
  temporary virtual servers that aren't expected to last more than a couple of 
  weeks, I just couldn't. 
  On 4/6/06, WEAVER, 
  Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:
  

Roger
Would it not be easier 
to apply the NBU Client? That way, it can run either if anyone is logged on 
or logged off?
Regards
Simon 
Weaver3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain 
Administrator 
EADS Astrium 
Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 
5PU
Email: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  
  -Original 
  Message-From: Roger Wilber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 05 April 2006 
  15:10To: WEAVER, SimonCc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: 
  [Veritas-bu] Backing up virtual serversAnother 
  possibility exists, especially for temporary test setups:While 
  backing up the the Windows VM host (lets call it vmhost), I just add into 
  the backup selection something along the lines of  "\\vm1\C$" where 
  vm1 is one of the virtual machines.  The Netbackup client on vmhost 
  has to be running as an administrative user.  I create a special 
  account for it and change the password on a regular schedule.  That 
  allows me to backup the (in my case test environment) VMs individually as 
  long as they are in use. 
  On 4/5/06, WEAVER, 
  Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
  

Well think of the 
virtual server as a physical one. As long as it can resolve name 
resolution, is not blocked by any firewalls, and can communicate with 
its host netbackup server, should be 
ok.
 
We used to do this 
on NT4, so my guess is, not alot has changed :-) Its a standard PC 
Client software on what it believes is a physical machine 
:-)
 
Thanks

Regards
Simon 
Weaver3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain 
Administrator 
EADS 
Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, 
Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
Email: 
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RE: [Veritas-bu] Backing up virtual servers

2006-04-06 Thread Brandon Zermeno
If you are using ESX you have to install the Linux client to backup the
VM image without stopping the OS. We also backup the VM OS with its own
client so if there is a problem we can restore one file or the whole OS.

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing up virtual servers

* Roger Wilber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-04-06 10:50]:
> Easier?  Probably.  However, that would also require additional client
> licenses, where as my method does not.

Last I checked, you need only one per TYPE of OS, so if you have one
Win2K3 server VMs, you are required to have only one license for the
ten.  So there is a cost, but it may not quite as insane as you think. 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing up virtual servers

2006-04-06 Thread David Rock
* Roger Wilber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-04-06 10:50]:
> Easier?  Probably.  However, that would also require additional client
> licenses, where as my method does not.

Last I checked, you need only one per TYPE of OS, so if you have one
Win2K3 server VMs, you are required to have only one license for the
ten.  So there is a cost, but it may not quite as insane as you think. 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing up virtual servers

2006-04-06 Thread Roger Wilber
Easier?  Probably.  However, that would also require additional client licenses, where as my method does not. For long lived virtual servers, I can see buying additional client licenses and setting up an NBU client on each virtual server but for temporary virtual servers that aren't expected to last more than a couple of weeks, I just couldn't.
On 4/6/06, WEAVER, Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:







Roger
Would it not be easier to apply the NBU Client? That way, it can 
run either if anyone is logged on or logged 
off?
Regards
Simon Weaver3rd Line Technical Support
Windows 
Domain Administrator 
EADS Astrium 
Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 
5PU
Email: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  
  -Original Message-From: Roger Wilber 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 05 April 2006 
  15:10To: WEAVER, SimonCc: 
  veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing 
  up virtual serversAnother possibility exists, especially 
  for temporary test setups:While backing up the the Windows VM host 
  (lets call it vmhost), I just add into the backup selection something along 
  the lines of  "\\vm1\C$" where vm1 is one of the virtual machines.  
  The Netbackup client on vmhost has to be running as an administrative 
  user.  I create a special account for it and change the password on a 
  regular schedule.  That allows me to backup the (in my case test 
  environment) VMs individually as long as they are in use. 
  On 4/5/06, WEAVER, 
  Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:
  

Well think of the 
virtual server as a physical one. As long as it can resolve name resolution, 
is not blocked by any firewalls, and can communicate with its host netbackup 
server, should be ok.
 
We used to do this on 
NT4, so my guess is, not alot has changed :-) Its a standard PC Client 
software on what it believes is a physical machine 
:-)
 
Thanks

Regards
Simon 
Weaver3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain 
Administrator 
EADS Astrium 
Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 
5PU
Email: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: [Veritas-bu] Backing up virtual servers

2006-04-06 Thread WEAVER, Simon
Title: Message



Hi Jonathan
Can I ask why everyone cannot do this? If the VM are live boxes 
(and I know many sites that use them as live machines), would it not be easier 
to place a netbackup client software on the boxes and just treat them as 
physical machines, rather than use downtime, copy the files to an alternaitve 
location and then back them up.
 
Yes it can be done your way, just wondering why the client cannot 
be installed?
 
 
Regards
Simon Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows 
Domain Administrator 
EADS Astrium 
Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 
5PU
Email: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  
  -Original Message-From: Martin, Jonathan 
  (Contractor) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 April 2006 
  15:07To: WEAVER, Simon; Hindle, Greg; 
  veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Backing 
  up virtual servers
  Not everyone can do this, but if you can spare the 
  downtime I've scripted in the past a brief suspend, File Copy to Another 
  Directory and then Resume the Virtual Session.  You can backup that copy 
  of the system whenever is convenient, and you have a simple way to 
  restore.
   
  -Jonathan
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WEAVER, 
  SimonSent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 9:48 AMTo: 'Hindle, 
  Greg'; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] 
  Backing up virtual servers
  
  Well think of the virtual server as a physical one. 
  As long as it can resolve name resolution, is not blocked by any firewalls, 
  and can communicate with its host netbackup server, should be 
  ok.
   
  We used to do this on NT4, so my guess is, not alot has changed 
  :-) Its a standard PC Client software on what it believes is a physical 
  machine :-)
   
  Thanks
  Regards
  Simon 
  Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows Domain 
  Administrator 
  EADS Astrium 
  Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 
  5PU
  Email: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  

-Original Message-From: Hindle, Greg 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 April 2006 
14:42To: WEAVER, Simon; 
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] 
Backing up virtual servers
Yes it does. This was my t5hinkibng as well. But wanted 
to see how others were handling virtual servers.
 
Greg 



From: WEAVER, Simon 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 
2006 9:29 AMTo: Hindle, Greg; 
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] 
Backing up virtual servers

Greg
Are you referring to something like Virtual PC's or virtual 
Servers? VS that are on a HOST Machine?
 
If so, what you could do is implement the Netbackup 
Client on EACH virtual machine and ensure it can see the 
Master.
 
In theory, you should still be able to perform a backup of the 
"Virtual Machine" and restore single 
files.
 
You should still backup the Master Host Machine too 
:-)
does this help?
 
 
Regards
Simon 
Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows Domain 
Administrator 
EADS Astrium 
Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 
5PU
Email: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  
  -Original Message-From: Hindle, Greg 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 April 2006 
  14:24To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: 
  [Veritas-bu] Backing up virtual servers
  Currently we backup up the hosting server that 
  has the virtual server directories. But running a restore means we have to 
  restore the entire server and we are not able to restore individual files. 
  How does everyone else backup virtual servers.
  Greg >>> This e-mail and any attachments are confidential, may contain legal, professional or other privileged information, and are intended solely for the addressee.  If you are not the intended recipient, do not use the information in this e-mail in any way, delete this e-mail and notify the sender. CEG-IP1


  
  
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RE: [Veritas-bu] Backing up virtual servers

2006-04-06 Thread WEAVER, Simon
Title: Message



Roger
Would it not be easier to apply the NBU Client? That way, it can 
run either if anyone is logged on or logged 
off?
Regards
Simon Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows 
Domain Administrator 
EADS Astrium 
Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 
5PU
Email: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  
  -Original Message-From: Roger Wilber 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 April 2006 
  15:10To: WEAVER, SimonCc: 
  veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing 
  up virtual serversAnother possibility exists, especially 
  for temporary test setups:While backing up the the Windows VM host 
  (lets call it vmhost), I just add into the backup selection something along 
  the lines of  "\\vm1\C$" where vm1 is one of the virtual machines.  
  The Netbackup client on vmhost has to be running as an administrative 
  user.  I create a special account for it and change the password on a 
  regular schedule.  That allows me to backup the (in my case test 
  environment) VMs individually as long as they are in use. 
  On 4/5/06, WEAVER, 
  Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:
  

Well think of the 
virtual server as a physical one. As long as it can resolve name resolution, 
is not blocked by any firewalls, and can communicate with its host netbackup 
server, should be ok.
 
We used to do this on 
NT4, so my guess is, not alot has changed :-) Its a standard PC Client 
software on what it believes is a physical machine 
:-)
 
Thanks

Regards
Simon 
Weaver3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain 
Administrator 
EADS Astrium 
Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 
5PU
Email: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: [Veritas-bu] Backing up virtual servers

2006-04-05 Thread Martin, Jonathan \(Contractor\)
Title: Message



Not everyone can do this, but if you can spare the downtime 
I've scripted in the past a brief suspend, File Copy to Another Directory and 
then Resume the Virtual Session.  You can backup that copy of the system 
whenever is convenient, and you have a simple way to 
restore.
 
-Jonathan


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WEAVER, 
SimonSent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 9:48 AMTo: 'Hindle, 
Greg'; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] 
Backing up virtual servers

Well think of the virtual server as a physical one. As 
long as it can resolve name resolution, is not blocked by any firewalls, and can 
communicate with its host netbackup server, should be 
ok.
 
We used to do this on NT4, so my guess is, not alot has changed 
:-) Its a standard PC Client software on what it believes is a physical machine 
:-)
 
Thanks
Regards
Simon Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows 
Domain Administrator 
EADS Astrium 
Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 
5PU
Email: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  
  -Original Message-From: Hindle, Greg 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 April 2006 
  14:42To: WEAVER, Simon; 
  veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Backing 
  up virtual servers
  Yes it does. This was my t5hinkibng as well. But wanted 
  to see how others were handling virtual servers.
   
  Greg 
  
  
  
  From: WEAVER, Simon 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 
  2006 9:29 AMTo: Hindle, Greg; 
  veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Backing 
  up virtual servers
  
  Greg
  Are you referring to something like Virtual PC's or virtual 
  Servers? VS that are on a HOST Machine?
   
  If so, what you could do is implement the Netbackup Client 
  on EACH virtual machine and ensure it can see the 
  Master.
   
  In theory, you should still be able to perform a backup of the 
  "Virtual Machine" and restore single files.
   
  You should still backup the Master Host Machine too 
  :-)
  does this help?
   
   
  Regards
  Simon 
  Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows Domain 
  Administrator 
  EADS Astrium 
  Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 
  5PU
  Email: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  

-Original Message-From: Hindle, Greg 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 April 2006 
14:24To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: 
[Veritas-bu] Backing up virtual servers
Currently we backup up the hosting server that 
has the virtual server directories. But running a restore means we have to 
restore the entire server and we are not able to restore individual files. 
How does everyone else backup virtual servers.
Greg >>> This e-mail and any attachments are confidential, may contain legal, professional or other privileged information, and are intended solely for the addressee.  If you are not the intended recipient, do not use the information in this e-mail in any way, delete this e-mail and notify the sender. CEG-IP1

  


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing up virtual servers

2006-04-05 Thread Roger Wilber
Another possibility exists, especially for temporary test setups:While backing up the the Windows VM host (lets call it vmhost), I just add into the backup selection something along the lines of  "\\vm1\C$" where vm1 is one of the virtual machines.  The Netbackup client on vmhost has to be running as an administrative user.  I create a special account for it and change the password on a regular schedule.  That allows me to backup the (in my case test environment) VMs individually as long as they are in use.
On 4/5/06, WEAVER, Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:







Well think of the virtual server as a physical one. As 
long as it can resolve name resolution, is not blocked by any firewalls, and can 
communicate with its host netbackup server, should be 
ok.
 
We used to do this on NT4, so my guess is, not alot has changed 
:-) Its a standard PC Client software on what it believes is a physical machine 
:-)
 
Thanks
Regards
Simon Weaver3rd Line Technical Support
Windows 
Domain Administrator 
EADS Astrium 
Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 
5PU
Email: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: [Veritas-bu] Backing up virtual servers

2006-04-05 Thread WEAVER, Simon
Title: Message



Well think of the virtual server as a physical one. As 
long as it can resolve name resolution, is not blocked by any firewalls, and can 
communicate with its host netbackup server, should be 
ok.
 
We used to do this on NT4, so my guess is, not alot has changed 
:-) Its a standard PC Client software on what it believes is a physical machine 
:-)
 
Thanks
Regards
Simon Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows 
Domain Administrator 
EADS Astrium 
Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 
5PU
Email: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  
  -Original Message-From: Hindle, Greg 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 April 2006 
  14:42To: WEAVER, Simon; 
  veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Backing 
  up virtual servers
  Yes it does. This was my t5hinkibng as well. But wanted 
  to see how others were handling virtual servers.
   
  Greg 
  
  
  
  From: WEAVER, Simon 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 
  2006 9:29 AMTo: Hindle, Greg; 
  veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Backing 
  up virtual servers
  
  Greg
  Are you referring to something like Virtual PC's or virtual 
  Servers? VS that are on a HOST Machine?
   
  If so, what you could do is implement the Netbackup Client 
  on EACH virtual machine and ensure it can see the 
  Master.
   
  In theory, you should still be able to perform a backup of the 
  "Virtual Machine" and restore single files.
   
  You should still backup the Master Host Machine too 
  :-)
  does this help?
   
   
  Regards
  Simon 
  Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows Domain 
  Administrator 
  EADS Astrium 
  Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 
  5PU
  Email: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  

-Original Message-From: Hindle, Greg 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 April 2006 
14:24To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: 
[Veritas-bu] Backing up virtual servers
Currently we backup up the hosting server that 
has the virtual server directories. But running a restore means we have to 
restore the entire server and we are not able to restore individual files. 
How does everyone else backup virtual servers.
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RE: [Veritas-bu] Backing up virtual servers

2006-04-05 Thread Hindle, Greg
Title: Message



Yes it does. This was my t5hinkibng as well. But wanted to 
see how others were handling virtual servers.
 
Greg 



From: WEAVER, Simon 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 
2006 9:29 AMTo: Hindle, Greg; 
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Backing up 
virtual servers

Greg
Are you referring to something like Virtual PC's or virtual 
Servers? VS that are on a HOST Machine?
 
If so, what you could do is implement the Netbackup Client on 
EACH virtual machine and ensure it can see the 
Master.
 
In theory, you should still be able to perform a backup of the 
"Virtual Machine" and restore single files.
 
You should still backup the Master Host Machine too 
:-)
does this help?
 
 
Regards
Simon Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows 
Domain Administrator 
EADS Astrium 
Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 
5PU
Email: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  
  -Original Message-From: Hindle, Greg 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 April 2006 
  14:24To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: 
  [Veritas-bu] Backing up virtual servers
  Currently we backup up the hosting server that has 
  the virtual server directories. But running a restore means we have to restore 
  the entire server and we are not able to restore individual files. How does 
  everyone else backup virtual servers.
  Greg >>> This e-mail and any attachments are confidential, may contain legal, professional or other privileged information, and are intended solely for the addressee.  If you are not the intended recipient, do not use the information in this e-mail in any way, delete this e-mail and notify the sender. CEG-IP1


  
  
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  retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it.Please notify the sender 
  by return email.The views of the author may not necessarily constitute 
  the views of EADS Astrium Limited.Nothing in this email shall bind 
  EADS Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation.EADS Astrium 
  Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259Registered Office: 
  Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, 
  England


RE: [Veritas-bu] Backing up virtual servers

2006-04-05 Thread WEAVER, Simon
Title: Message



Greg
Are you referring to something like Virtual PC's or virtual
Servers? VS that are on a HOST Machine?
 
If so, what you could do is implement the Netbackup Client on
EACH virtual machine and ensure it can see the
Master.
 
In theory, you should still be able to perform a backup of the
"Virtual Machine" and restore single files.
 
You should still backup the Master Host Machine too
:-)
does this help?
 
 
Regards
Simon Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows
Domain Administrator 
EADS Astrium
Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3
5PU
Email:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  
  -Original Message-From: Hindle, Greg
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 April 2006
  14:24To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject:
  [Veritas-bu] Backing up virtual servers
  Currently we backup up the hosting server that has
  the virtual server directories. But running a restore means we have to restore
  the entire server and we are not able to restore individual files. How does
  everyone else backup virtual servers.
  Greg >>> This e-mail and any attachments are confidential, may contain legal, professional or other privileged information, and are intended solely for the addressee.  If you are not the intended recipient, do not use the information in this e-mail in any way, delete this e-mail and notify the sender. CEG-IP1


This email is for the intended addressee only.
If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it.
Please notify the sender by return email.
The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of EADS Astrium Limited.
Nothing in this email shall bind EADS Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation.

EADS Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259
Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England